I liked L2, great game, grinding was boring, but it's something NCSOFT could fix. Instead this they made only grinding game. Now there is no character customization, dyes are useless, subclass too. All is lvl and items = grinding. I can imagine its a part of new free marketing model. But its not the game I like. Whole game till lvl 85 is bugged. Half of great bosses too. Zaken, Freya, etc, are not great now. And after you reach 85 lvl, you go grinding. PK system made PK very stupid thing = a lot of grinding. This game had only one problem - except bad design of some items - grinding. If I want to play farm will go in facebook, it's free too. L2 with combo skills, which are made from NCSOFT, not from me, with great lvl penalty, with no customization and PK, is not fun, it's boring. Sry for this, but you screw my favorite game. :mad:
Yes there was. I could beat titan with no armor, or mage with no jewls, thanks to character customization and my own skill combinations. Customization was dyes, subclass skills, and skill enchanting. Now all these are useless. Except maybe high enchanting of some skills, for which you shall grind like mad in fact. Now only lvl and gear have matter. And this is boring.
Yes there was. I could beat titan with no armor, or mage with no jewls, thanks to character customization and my own skill combinations. Customization was dyes, subclass skills, and skill enchanting. Now all these are useless. Except maybe high enchanting of some skills, for which you shall grind like mad in fact. Now only lvl and gear have matter. And this is boring.
I can't beat everyone that doesn't wear armor too. What's your point?
There are still subclass skills.
There are still dyes.
Weapons for the most part are the same p. atk, customization would be what SA's you want to work with.
You couldn't oe skills until they were max level. Nothings changed with this.
Gear and level have always mattered, hence top clans locking down top exp/gear spots, raids.
Nothing to see here carry on, don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
I liked L2, great game, grinding was boring, but it's something NCSOFT could fix. Instead this they made only grinding game. Now there is no character customization, dyes are useless, subclass too. All is lvl and items = grinding. I can imagine its a part of new free marketing model. But its not the game I like. Whole game till lvl 85 is bugged. Half of great bosses too. Zaken, Freya, etc, are not great now. And after you reach 85 lvl, you go grinding. PK system made PK very stupid thing = a lot of grinding. This game had only one problem - except bad design of some items - grinding. If I want to play farm will go in facebook, it's free too. L2 with combo skills, which are made from NCSOFT, not from me, with great lvl penalty, with no customization and PK, is not fun, it's boring. Sry for this, but you screw my favorite game. :mad:
I'm going to guess you're from a private server and you're sour because you found out just how much work retail servers are?
Thanks for barfing all over the forums, time for you to move on over to hello kitty online!
Let me guess, you were tank with shield deflect magic or ghost hunter with counter attack.
No, still don't see that big costumization. Not impressive at all.
Actually, you didnt give a single example so far.
Everyone went for same build on same class. The best build, always, costumization is something unique, just for yourself, l2 never had big costumization, ever. Everyone had same skills and would aim for same augs, same SETs, same weapons, same SAs, same skill enchant routes.
L2 classes were always pretty straightforward, just a few exceptions really.
1Peri1: i think the same, looks like he came from high rate where daggers or tanks dominate (the usual dominating classes in hi5) and got mad he needs strategy and gear to beat people here.
I mean to beat titan if I have no armor :) And see your stats. Now see dyes and tell me they are same :) And you don't need max lvl for skill enchanting. But enchanting of new skills is expensive and in fact useless. And you have no subclass skills anymore, only atck and def. And gear and lvl had no matter for me till H5. If you think that nothing changed, pls learn to play, cause seems you know nothing about this game.
Yes tank, hk, beat few mages with no jewels and no deflect, it was hard, but possible. Now it's not possible. I have no feeling that I play now. I don't choose my stats, I don't combine my skills, I don't play. Only push buttons.
I mean to beat titan if I have no armor :) And see your stats. Now see dyes and tell me they are same :) And you don't need max lvl for skill enchanting. But enchanting of new skills is expensive and in fact useless. And you have no subclass skills anymore, only atck and def. And gear and lvl had no matter for me till H5. If you think that nothing changed, pls learn to play, cause seems you know nothing about this game.
I don't think YOU know anything about how this game is actually played being you've been playing a private server with stuff that doesn't even exist on retail servers. I think it is YOU who needs to learn how to play.
Been playing official servers off and on since closed beta sir. looks like you also need some reading skills. No where did I say you need Max toon level to OE skills, I said you need MAX SKILL LEVEL ie. the skill tree is completely learned. I'm sure whatever private server you're from let you oe skills regardless of the skills learned level.
L2 has always and will always be a grind game.
Sub skills were balanced, and more are being added. Stop crying because you lost CS.
QQ I can't beat anyone while just standing there naked requiring zero brain function. qqqq
You can now go +15 on any stat with your dyes, or not. Problem?
As Yuna said, in oly/pvp everyone goes for the same exact setup. Regardless there's no customization. Unless you mean those fancy smancy edited skins/weapons on priv. server.
Before this thread turns into a heated debate, please remember to be respectful to others even if you disagree with their opinions. There's no need for insults or name calling. The thread's title was also changed with some more appropriate words.
Before this thread turns into a heated debate, please remember to be respectful to others even if you disagree with their opinions. There's no need for insults or name calling. The thread's title was also changed with some more appropriate words.
Our deepest apologies Juji :/
When dealing with someone so... quaint. It can indeed get pretty heated.
Been playing official servers off and on since closed beta sir. looks like you also need some reading skills. No where did I say you need Max toon level to OE skills, I said you need MAX SKILL LEVEL ie. the skill tree is completely learned. I'm sure whatever private server you're from let you oe skills regardless of the skills learned level.
L2 has always and will always be a grind game.
Sub skills were balanced, and more are being added. Stop crying because you lost CS.
QQ I can't beat anyone while just standing there naked requiring zero brain function. qqqq
You can now go +15 on any stat with your dyes, or not. Problem?
As Yuna said, in oly/pvp everyone goes for the same exact setup. Regardless there's no customization. Unless you mean those fancy smancy edited skins/weapons on priv. server.
I have some pvp, and even some pk :) To clean tens of thousands of karma is extremely boring. So I can beat someone. But it's boring. And if you find in this game only grinding - I think two things about you - you are not a good player in fact, and you have a lot a time to lose.
I never had oe skills. I found my own balance with character. I could beat anyone no matter of gear, and lvl. Now I cannot find balance.
I have some pvp, and even some pk :) To clean tens of thousands of karma is extremely boring. So I can beat someone. But it's boring. And if you find in this game only grinding - I think two things about you - you are not a good player in fact, and you have a lot a time to lose.
I never had oe skills. I found my own balance with character. I could beat anyone no matter of gear, and lvl. Now I cannot find balance.
you can't find balance because it's not the same as a private server. Nothing on retail is like where you were playing. You have to basically learn it all over again since it's not where you started playing.
Lol, man stop with this. I have been played on private and on retail too. In fact on few private servers. Some of them are exactly like retail, almost no difference, except in events.
Still can I easily make balanced character 85? No I can't cause new stats, and subclass system. But anyway the game now is starting after lvl 85. And I talk about this whole new stuff. It's boring.
I'm not a good player because I can easily ***** the game, right.
With the amount of vit items/runes/pots/agathions being sold. If there was no grind in this game those items would not have any use.
I have eons of free time, the long grind sucks, but I also enjoy it.
You pvp, you pk, none of this is relevant to what you were complaining about. One one hand you said there's no skill required in this game,only gear and level mattered, and on the other you said you could beat anyone regardless of their gear and level, one can infer form that statement there is skill involved. Quite the paradox.
Hunting is boring, pvp is boring. Lineage 2 retail is not the game for you, Good day.
tl;dr Move along.
Lol, man stop with this. I have been played on private and on retail too. In fact on few private servers. Some of them are exactly like retail, almost no difference, except in events.
Still can I easily make balanced character 85? No I can't cause new stats, and subclass system. But anyway the game now is starting after lvl 85. And I talk about this whole new stuff. It's boring.
Everything on retail is working as intended. If it's not for you then quit and play something else?
Can't understand why you attacking me, but anyway it's your own problem. I know I'm one of best L2 players ever. But when killing of great boss like Freya is so easy, or in pvp you use combos made from NCSOFT, yes hunting and pvp are boring. And I said there's no skill required in this game,only gear and level matter - now. Before GoD gear and lvl have no matter for me, only skills and the way I use them. Anyway I will try GW2.
Can't understand why you attacking me, but anyway it's your own problem. I know I'm one of best L2 players ever. But when killing of great boss like Freya is so easy, or in pvp you use combos made from NCSOFT, yes hunting and pvp are boring. And I said there's no skill required in this game,only gear and level matter - now. Before GoD gear and lvl have no matter for me, only skills and the way I use them. Anyway I will try GW2.
Cya. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Can't understand why you attacking me, but anyway it's your own problem. I know I'm one of best L2 players ever. But when killing of great boss like Freya is so easy, or in pvp you use combos made from NCSOFT, yes hunting and pvp are boring. And I said there's no skill required in this game,only gear and level matter - now. Before GoD gear and lvl have no matter for me, only skills and the way I use them. Anyway I will try GW2.
Well you're being attacked because you posted a senseless rant because the game clearly isn't for you.
You're one of the best players ever and you can't even survive on retail where skills are even more accurate than PS. No..you are not one of the best players ever becoz of this thread.
You can PK anyone you want.
You can PVP anyone you want.
You can show how great you are but instead you whine about it.
You claim to own magees and titans without armor and jewels on, and you even say that PS is like retail, sorry buddy, that sort of stuff doesn't happen here, so it's not like retail.
The best players are those that are now ingame doing CPs, killing wars for fun and grinding gear for their mates, while you are quiting.
You're one of the best players ever and you can't even survive on retail where skills are even more accurate than PS. No..you are not one of the best players ever becoz of this thread.
You can PK anyone you want.
You can PVP anyone you want.
You can show how great you are but instead you whine about it.
You claim to own magees and titans without armor and jewels on, and you even say that PS is like retail, sorry buddy, that sort of stuff doesn't happen here, so it's not like retail.
The best players are those that are now ingame doing CPs, killing wars for fun and grinding gear for their mates, while you are quiting.
^ yup and I was tired of trying to make this point to the op :P
Well...actually , like they said already , l2 never had a big customization at all , but it still have it ^^
You still have subclass skills , but now they're not so much op like they was in the past (i dunno how i was in official , but from unofficial server the old celestial-chance subskill was pretty OP ^^) , but you still have it anyway.
You can PK/PVP everyone u want , ofc , lowering karma when you're a low-lvl is hard and boring , just 2 days ago i was doing a low-lvl char for some fun , and for a lag-hit i pked a friend of mine , taking 800 karma points...i got hitted by chars...and...useless to say that i'm deleting the char (who actually have about 10.419 karma points , 'cause every mob take just 1 karma point down LOL)
The games as always been about grinding...lol , i was a BladeDancer back in interlude , no vitality , no pt xp bonus , no solo zone , nothing at all. so you was stucked to pt for everything , and the xp was low as hell , i'm lvl 89 and i get 0.01% every mob/every 2-3 mobs , back in interlude , i took 0.01% every mob at lvl 67 , so :) the game like it's now is even too easy i think :D (for now xD)
You just need to learn how to play and enjoy the game like it is now...quiting will just prove that you're not the best player but a mere lolunofficial player :)
To learn to like it? It's some kind of mental masochism? And yes, now killing of mobs is easier - no fun. A don't mind vs parties, but now I play every time with different ppl. New pt system made game easier but I have less fun. It seems you even can't understand what I'm talking about, cause you never play this game like it shall be played. Everyone can grind in pt, here or in farmland, no matter. Everyone can pvp with ready-made combos. It's not hard, you don't think, you only push buttons. I like to use different strategies and skill combinations in pvp. I like game to be hard, and opponents to be stronger than me, cause when I farm or beat somebody I have fun. The best thing in this game was to go vs hero, who is higher lvl, has better gear, and to win. Now I can't do it. So you are right at some way - I was one of the best players - before GoD. Now I'm nab. But easy grinding is boring.
In fact I did :) Need more than 20 min to slay one mob. Which makes solo pointless. But I'm only 87 lvl, on higher lvl I guess, you can solo there. Anyway farming is boring. The point of mmorpg is to play with other ppl, and in your own role, not to play with mobs. I hope GW2 will be as good as it seems.
How's that possible?
Even if you play only 15 minutes per day doing the swamplands daily quest you should be at least 88 by now. And if you do Kartia you should be 89+ at least.
Anyway, a couple months after GoD started, I played the olympiad on my lvl 87 alt (with S grade gear) and ended up in the 4th place, while some "hardcore xper" with top gear and full epics, being 95+ by that moment, ranked 5th. That's what I call being moderately good: lvl 87 > lvl 95.
Now, as you're 87 and claim to be one of the best players ever, what's your rank in the last months' Olympiads? lol
Well sounds like to me the entire game no matter how you played it was boring. WHY you kept playing this long baffles me since you've complained about PvE,PvP and everything else in between. It's not hard to understand at all, you clearly don't understand that WE understand. It's pretty obvious things aren't going as quickly anymore now that you've hit 86+ and you don't like it. You won't level in 15 mins on retail at that level.
Lol, Peri, you are like broken gramophone record. The conflict retail vs private is only in your head. There were private servers much harder than retail and much easier, and equal, quest of your choice. Most ppl play on private servers not cause it's easier, but cause there were more ppl. I have been on siege with about 600 players around. Here with so many players I will have only framed lag.
About lvl, I stop playing after I realized I cannot customize my character. And I bet, Aconyte, you never beat this 95+ player so lvl 87 > lvl 95 is not correct in fact.
About GoD, I had a hope that it will give more customization options, gear will look better, and the game will make step back to interlude way of playing. But instead of this GoD gave less customization, same ugly gear, and way of playing which reduce thinking and strategy to zero.
And one more thing - map became smaller. 70% of it is useless space for characters under lvl 85. GoD is like new game put over the old game, but it's not the same game. And for me it's not better game for sure. Like I said I find it boring.
Lol, Peri, you are like broken gramophone record. The conflict retail vs private is only in your head. There were private servers much harder than retail and much easier, and equal, quest of your choice. Most ppl play on private servers not cause it's easier, but cause there were more ppl. I have been on siege with about 600 players around. Here with so many players I will have only framed lag.
About lvl, I stop playing after I realized I cannot customize my character. And I bet, Aconyte, you never beat this 95+ player so lvl 87 > lvl 95 is not correct in fact.
You sound like a whiny PS player so what's your point?
Lol, there was no strategy on interlude, it was carry the best m atk and crit dmg to 2 shot people. NOW is when you need strategy, warriors no longer instantly kill people and stun to death. Daggers no longer 2- shot people with a no-grade dagger.
And i'm still laughing at "dyes are useless", you'd figure why they cost billions on a 10set. But nope, not everybody can figure that out!
And I bet, Aconyte, you never beat this 95+ player so lvl 87 > lvl 95 is not correct in fact.
That's irrelevant. In the Oly the only thing that matters is the total number of points.
Moreover, in case you didn't know, the summoner hero on Chronos repeatedly beat his opponents who were 5-6 levels above him. A few months in a row.
Imagine this: you're 90 or 91 and your opponent is 95-97, playing the same class, with 95+ gear. How do you think the low lvl player would win? The answer is simple: due to some customization + some skills. These are the two things of which you seem to have a pretty vague idea.
Ok, tell me now, how to customize my character? Dyes - 5, and 1 more, so 6 from slot. But these 6 points are bonus for example on 130 str. So 5% bonus. Before GoD bonus on same basis was about 15%. Let see subclass. No more skills. And like for dyes, bonus is bigger now in nominal value, but lower as quota. Skills - ready-made combos. Some classes are still good in fact, but I play with tank, like always did. And tank is very boring. Not weak, it still can stun you and slay you - which I never did, cause it's boring. So how to customize my character? I bet you don't know too :)
And why dyes are so expensive? Maybe to make ppl like you, Yunalesca, to grind more :)
Do you know how much +15 str and +15 int relfects on ALL stats? or +15con?
You're just 87, and you think you have any idea about this?
Ijust hit 91, 10 minutes ago, i don't have a single dye and, there's not a single summoner out there with my setup and looks, that's not costumization?
Lol, Peri, you are like broken gramophone record. The conflict retail vs private is only in your head. There were private servers much harder than retail and much easier, and equal, quest of your choice.
The conflict between retail and private server is not just "in anyone's head". I've only heard a private server player say any of the following:
I can't login during TW/siege weekend, it says the problem is due to high traffic. I restarted my client and computer. Is this a problem with my computer or with NCSoft?
Tank: Why does the Iss take less damage than I do?
me (Iss): Do you have element on your armor?
Tank: What's that?
Where do you buy mana pots?
How did you get your weapons above 150 element?
Did you solo Antharas for that earring?
While in a single targetting party, the archer asks for MA, then randomly attacks another mob that the tank wasn't targetting, dies, then asks again who MA is.
*insert "holy **** hero is an awesome thing, why you no has it" comment here*
I found these Sealed Doom Gloves on the floor after they were on the floor for over 15 minutes. I timed it.
Why are stones/crystals/fragments success rate so low?
Why do you carry Summoning Crystals?
Why are there so many bots around <insert any town name or zone here>?
What's command channel?
What territory is Innadril? I don't see it on the map.
How do I change my class?
What's MRT?
*Mother/family member gets insulted by someone in-game, first reaction is to screenshot it, then complain about it on the forums*
Person: How do I get that much adena?
me: Grind.
Person: WTF is that? :s
How do you link items in chat?
Me: ok PR after this group.
Healer: What's PR?
Has anyone ever pulled trains to aoe? It's amazing!
me: WTB wind crystals cod me
PM: What is cod?
In-game mail is being abused to sell adena. (shocking, who knew?!)
I didn't know I'd flag if I rez'd a dead person flagged.
Why isn't this bug fixed yet? It's an easy thing to resolve. (shocking, NCSoft is slow at fixing something detrimental?)
What NPC I buy Anakim?
R-grade shots can only be used for R grade weapons? Or they can be used for S weapons too?
Are all official servers x1? What are the server rates?
Flipsy, your post has nothing common with this thread. So thank you for pro spam :) I played on 16-17 servers till now, incl. first retail Bartz. Some were quite different from retail, some were the same. Anyway, the point is that GoD was step in wrong direction. I hope NCSOFT will take lesson from it, and will make L2 interesting again.
Flipsy, your post has nothing common with this thread. So thank you for pro spam :) I played on 16-17 servers till now, incl. first retail Bartz. Some were quite different from retail, some were the same. Anyway, the point is that GoD was step in wrong direction. I hope NCSOFT will take lesson from it, and will make L2 interesting again.
Cool story bro, tell it again next time with some dragons and ****. Maybe that'll make it interesting.
This thread has a whole lot of whine, and a whole lot of nothing else useful. The PK system destroyed the game, yes. Changing 35 classes into 8 may have destroyed the game and its "customization", yes. However, complaining here does NOTHING but prove you know how to throw a tantrum in daycare. Your opinions here never make it to NCSoft in Korea, and before you say "oh but they might listen!" people have been doing what you're doing for the last 5+ years, and shockingly enough, nothing they ever QQ'd about ever came to fruition.
Flipsy, your post has nothing common with this thread. So thank you for pro spam :) I played on 16-17 servers till now, incl. first retail Bartz. Some were quite different from retail, some were the same. Anyway, the point is that GoD was step in wrong direction. I hope NCSOFT will take lesson from it, and will make L2 interesting again.
Everything he said IS relevant to this discussion because it refers to PS players who whine and that is what you're doing here. What you do play retail a week then have been on private servers since? GoD was a revamp of an old game to the best they could do to bring something new to it. Do I like all of it...no,but there's always the next update that might improve it. If you're going to quit then do it and stop responding to the forums.
Oh, Peri, you want last word :) GW2 will start after more than month, so this will become a long thread :) I know more for this game, than you ever will know, so will be fun. And about updates, last one definitely didn't make game better. Now you can lvl up only with Kartia, which is faster but very boring.
Oh, Peri, you want last word :) GW2 will start after more than month, so this will become a long thread :) I know more for this game, than you ever will know, so will be fun. And about updates, last one definitely didn't make game better. Now you can lvl up only with Kartia, which is faster but very boring.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA faster. Right. You are right. You're so amazing at this game.
come on guys face the reality.it was grinding for levels now its grinding for equipments and pvp in tw nothing changed
The game was about grinding for equipment since day 1, if I recall correctly.
I play with tank, like always did. And tank is very boring.
Ahahah so you're a tank, I see now. :) Before GoD, it was a pretty overpowered class, right? As a nuker, I really hated tanks in the Oly. I had no chance to beat a tank (both being top lvl).
Guess what, a few years ago I rolled an alt of a different race and class, did not spend much adena to equip it, but did a lot of customization (as I transformed a warrior-based hybrid class into a weak nuker). So, when it was just 78, I started farming the Olympiad with it, and often defeated much higher level toons (including lvl 85 hero daggers and tanks), with multibillion gear and epics. There was certainly so much strategy and tactics involved! (buffsteal - kite - kite -buffsteal - warp - kite - blink - buffsteal - kite - kite - buffsteal - blink - nuke - kite -kite - nuke - warp - nuke nuke nuke = dead tanks in the end! lol) Non-elemented Draconic armor and 150 element Arcana mace ftw!
Yet some people kept saying it was just an overpowered class that made it possible. :o
See, I too can be nostalgic. So what, the game has changed, and we need to accomodate out playstyles accordingly. The old 34 classes are gone, the new classes may look boring (not "unique" anymore) but nowadays pretty much any class can beat any class in 1 vs 1 (except healers maybe, but those have always been exceptional since the time they got offensive spells). Before GoD, it wasn't possible at all, as some classes have always dominated the others.
Oh, Peri, you want last word :) GW2 will start after more than month, so this will become a long thread :) I know more for this game, than you ever will know, so will be fun. And about updates, last one definitely didn't make game better. Now you can lvl up only with Kartia, which is faster but very boring.
I doubt you know any more than the rest of us 8+ year veterans, but hey if you wanna think it's so I can't stop you.
I could care less about GW2, I'm playing L2 and Tera and that's enough.
Oh, Peri, you want last word :) GW2 will start after more than month, so this will become a long thread :) I know more for this game, than you ever will know, so will be fun. And about updates, last one definitely didn't make game better. Now you can lvl up only with Kartia, which is faster but very boring.
Yes, GW2 will come out, everyone will leave all of their games for it and never buy another.:rolleyes:
It's a game. Yes, I preordered it (and DB3, and many others).
Now you can lvl up only with Kartia, which is faster but very boring.
Ok, since everyone said already, I will explain why:
Kartia is for casual players have a chance to get a nice % per day. In fact you can make the Kartia group or Solo in one hour. It's the perfect way to level your character and still have a social life.
Umh...so...amh , what's the point of this treadh? u're just blaming the game 'cause you're the best player of ever in lineage 2 , unbeatable and the pro of the pro! But actually 'cause of this you find the game so boring , slow , idunnowhatbutivetoblameit , mh , seems legit. :O Kartia is not faster , but give to every1 (even the people who play for small amount of time each day) to level up and not be left behind ;) you found this way boring 'cause it's 2 fast...but you say that griding for lvl up and equip is boring...and as far as i remember , back in interlude , xp was slow as hell , and you was suppose to grind a lot for lvl up and get equip...but now that you lvl up "fast" and without too much grind , is boring 2! Have you already downloaded pokèmon online? It will never be boring.
Umh...so...amh , what's the point of this treadh? u're just blaming the game 'cause you're the best player of ever in lineage 2 , unbeatable and the pro of the pro! But actually 'cause of this you find the game so boring , slow , idunnowhatbutivetoblameit , mh , seems legit. :O Kartia is not faster , but give to every1 (even the people who play for small amount of time each day) to level up and not be left behind ;) you found this way boring 'cause it's 2 fast...but you say that griding for lvl up and equip is boring...and as far as i remember , back in interlude , xp was slow as hell , and you was suppose to grind a lot for lvl up and get equip...but now that you lvl up "fast" and without too much grind , is boring 2! Have you already downloaded pokèmon online? It will never be boring.
I mean to beat titan if I have no armor :) And see your stats. Now see dyes and tell me they are same :) And you don't need max lvl for skill enchanting. But enchanting of new skills is expensive and in fact useless. And you have no subclass skills anymore, only atck and def. And gear and lvl had no matter for me till H5. If you think that nothing changed, pls learn to play, cause seems you know nothing about this game.
Yes tank, hk, beat few mages with no jewels and no deflect, it was hard, but possible. Now it's not possible. I have no feeling that I play now. I don't choose my stats, I don't combine my skills, I don't play. Only push buttons.
i dont really know what the H... you talking about? I am Tank and mages die usually when they nuke me due to reflect dmg, i am 90+ if u wondering what lvl i am
Ok, since everyone said already, I will explain why:
Kartia is for casual players have a chance to get a nice % per day. In fact you can make the Kartia group or Solo in one hour. It's the perfect way to level your character and still have a social life.
But... faster? Not by a long shot.
+1 natalia,
when i have work, i enjoy having option to do kartia to get at least some % rather then 0,2 in the same time at H3 or GoG
Oh come on Ikcen, you played hell knight on private server where this char was so bugged that no one could beat it in oly. Always landing stuns that never broke when being attacked and so. Did you expect it will be in retail the same? Open your eyes. There you cant win in oly in NM armor vs guys in vesper like in your previous server. And stop acting like you know everything about this game. Every time someone beaten you you was just crying about cheating without knowing how your opponent's skills should work. Dont say stupid things like "I used to kill mages without jewels now I cant" when you compare retail to private server where many things didnt work. And dont tell me they did, I used to play there too.
Ofc, that Kartia is faster. You all said it, go for hour, and done for day. Which is cool, but Kartia itself is very boring. Is it so hard to make dynamic dungeon?
And I was very precise what I don't like in GoD. You start, like always, to blame who is better. Oh, mine is bigger :) Have no idea in fact, and don't care, but I know I'm very good player. It's not about psp or retail, or overpowered tanks /I never used stun like you said, cause it's not fair, nor here, neither on private servers/ it's about GoD.
I said it clear. Less customization, ready-made combos, much smaller map. And a way of playing which favors grinding. And it's not hard, funny grinding, but boring grinding like solo Kartia.
Seems Aconyte is the only one who get it. I don't like the way I shall accommodate my play style accordingly to GoD. It so simple.
Vojcek, SweetDreamZ wrote it - now reflect has higher chance in fact cause it's ready-made combo. Before to kill mage with deflect you needed to remove all jewels, which means to take very high risk to be killed yourself. To reduce this risk you should use passive shield and to choose right moment when your evasion is higher cause sixth sense. Now you click on reflect, and slay mage - boring.
Have no idea in fact, and don't care, but I know I'm very good player.
Yeah, because using reflect to kill mages is the standard for "very good players".
So I could become the god of the Hierophants just because I had +12 Root and 2 different armor sets?
That jewel thing was strategy? was more like an exploit rofl that i did for fun on shilien knight. And on retail that skill works diferently than PS. AFAIK taking your jewels our doesn't help cause the dmg from shield deflect magic is capped and can't go high. And secondly the skill was bound by chance, it never reflected 100%.
This "killing mage with no jewels" remark..so predictable, every hero on high rate PS says this, you're not the first, i came across such noobs saying they could kill this way or that blabla, things that don't work like that be default at all. When they go retail, can't do anything.:) You should the quantity that ran to god PS, because they realized, their "pr0-being" was inferior to average player.
Like I said you don't know much about this game. In fact I killed few mages on siege and on oly, with Sigel Knight, in GoD, just with reflect. Chance now, with ready-made combo Spike Shield is the same like before - 50%.
So you put win on coin toss. Very risky? No. If you use Iron Aura and Focus Shield at same time, chance to deflect is over 80%. Ofc. it depends on lvls of players.
In fact before GoD total chance to deflect with skill combination was lower, and as I said tank needed to use Iron Shield, in combination with Shield Fortress, and to choose moment when he has sixth sense for high evasion - hp less than 30%, but higher than 10%, cause when hp is under 10% tank just will be overhited. And ofc. there was always chance to get excellent shield defense, and skill combination to fail. So yes, there was strategy and tactic.
But cause you don't know much about this game, which you play from years, you continue to write nonsense about private and retail servers.
You guys who are defending the crap that game has become, you guys have never been play the true lineage 2!, Who enjoys the game like this now never played lineage 2 for real, I'll try to remember some of you the real lineage2 for remind, look at the video:
I'll say more, who are defending **** like this will now be the first to come out when they launch the GW2 D3, you who are defending this **** does not love the true lineage 2! Lineage 2 is SILMARILLION PLEASE REMEMBER PLEASE NC SOFT REMEMBER FORGET THIS AWAKENS CRAP SKILLS! GIVE´M BACK OUR BELOVED LINEAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The old Chronicals on retail are gone, NCSoft is a business and the only way they make money is to look to the future. The game works in Korea, always has and that is all NCEast is concerned about.
Ofc, that Kartia is faster. You all said it, go for hour, and done for day. Which is cool, but Kartia itself is very boring. Is it so hard to make dynamic dungeon?
And I was very precise what I don't like in GoD. You start, like always, to blame who is better. Oh, mine is bigger :) Have no idea in fact, and don't care, but I know I'm very good player. It's not about psp or retail, or overpowered tanks /I never used stun like you said, cause it's not fair, nor here, neither on private servers/ it's about GoD.
I said it clear. Less customization, ready-made combos, much smaller map. And a way of playing which favors grinding. And it's not hard, funny grinding, but boring grinding like solo Kartia.
Seems Aconyte is the only one who get it. I don't like the way I shall accommodate my play style accordingly to GoD. It so simple.
Vojcek, SweetDreamZ wrote it - now reflect has higher chance in fact cause it's ready-made combo. Before to kill mage with deflect you needed to remove all jewels, which means to take very high risk to be killed yourself. To reduce this risk you should use passive shield and to choose right moment when your evasion is higher cause sixth sense. Now you click on reflect, and slay mage - boring.
This does not make you a good player. Relying on one chance skill (omg a skill combo that 'everyone' did you are so original). Killing someone on reflect does not require any skill whatsoever. The way you word it sounds like you would just stand there like a whipped dog until you were in the MAGICAL HP ZONE and pop your combo.
Kartia is not grinding. Not by a long shot. If 30 minutes of a dungeon where the majority of the time you can just stand there and let the npcs kill mobs for you is considered grinding, get off this game.
The game evolves every update. The game is made for Koreans, who have a far different play style. You want a 'pure' lineage? Delete all content past level 40 like the 'good old days'.
Ha, one skill :) I slew higher lvl mages and healers with no jewels, no stun and no deflect. Never saw other tank to do it. If you find someone, tell me :) And this combo, which everyone does, is created by me :) Once I fought vs 4 clans on tw in Aden, alone, destroyed the castle, and made the quests. And I was on selfbuf with lower gear than most ppl there. Not myself, other players called best HK ever and Red baron. I doubt I'm the best, cause I doubt is it even possible. Everyone has his great moments and not so good moments too, and this makes L2 game it is. But I know I'm very good player, who think and has unique style of playing.
Do you know what is not grinding? Quests which are hard to be made, and not everyone can makes them, fight vs good player, farming in really dangerous place. Game shall be challenging to be interesting. If you lose half hour doing nothing, this is total grinding, like making stupid quests, killing stupid mobs, and fighting vs players who let their gear to play instead of them. Kartia is dally grind, if you know what I mean :)
I don't want pure L2, I want better L2. GoD is less skills, less classes, less armors and weapons, less character customization and smaller map. If you call this evolving and like it, go on, play GoD. I will try GW2.
Ha, one skill :) I slew higher lvl mages and healers with no jewels, no stun and no deflect. Never saw other tank to do it. If you find someone, tell me :)
That's easy answer: Me since c5 and possibly thousands of other players on PSs. And i'm just a noob, really. You care? No, so we don't either.