My clan has lost over 60% of its most active members to the Diablo 3 plague that's sweeping the globe. Bartz numbers are down and it's evident in Aden. The shops, karita groups and players are half of what they were pre Diablo. In order to get these people back you guys really need to step it up.
Also, something must be done against the countless hordes of afk players/shops crowding Aden (especially around Kartia npc) so that it's impossible to walk across the town at any given moment.
Tauti will not revive L2 because NCWest does not advertise, that is the difference between them and Blizzard. You look almost anywhere and you will see Blizzard games on the television and in magazines, where do you see NCSoft games?
The problem is the masses do not know Lineage 2 exists, but mention WoW or Diablo and you get an instant "yeah, I know it".
Sold 6.3millions in a week, sorry, but there's no l2 update that can save anyone adicted to it:D
box sales
they dont determine how good a game is
regardless,i looked at diablo 3.the only thing that appealed to me was the arena style pvp.i already told myself i was done with blizzard mmos after wow anyway.im not a casual and dont really want to feel like im getting the backseat of the bus
Tauti will not revive L2 because NCWest does not advertise, that is the difference between them and Blizzard. You look almost anywhere and you will see Blizzard games on the television and in magazines, where do you see NCSoft games?
The problem is the masses do not know Lineage 2 exists, but mention WoW or Diablo and you get an instant "yeah, I know it".
thats probably because.from what i know about american mmos,and people that play them.if they did advertise,probably 95 percent of the people they would get would leave anyway
thats probably because.from what i know about american mmos,and people that play them.if they did advertise,probably 95 percent of the people they would get would leave anyway
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- Diablo 3 is among us
- TERA too.
- GW2 is coming and thousands of players want to join, at least, until WoW Mists of Pandaria is released.
- ArcheAge(same creator of Lineage 1) looks cool, but it still needs some polishing in the animations before its release(animations like characters running seem strange).
There is no update to make L2 big again in NA, maybe Lineage Eternal may become a mainstream here because its gameplay looks so fluid as Diablo 3, a MMORPG with Diablo 3 mechanics may grab the attenction of many people in the future. But Blizzard new MMO called TITAN will come and it will be a new threat to the other next-gen MMOS.
as sad as this is, i agree that there are viable alternatives to our lineage 2 out there. Nevertheless im sure the amount of money that NCsoft has made from us allows them to keep the serves up and the lights on. A new chronicle would help fuel the return of some old players and peak interest once again so it would be in NCsoft's interest to release this update asap. Hell i dont even care for the shotty translations (nobody reads the friggin quest dialogues anyways) just release the **** thing!
So true, I doubt if NCWest can do anything to regain market share.
Nevertheless im sure the amount of money that NCsoft has made from us allows them to keep the serves up and the lights on.
NCWest doesn't generate enough money from NA and EU players. It's sad to say, but eventually L2 will shut down in NA just like L1 (which is still going strong in Korea)
My clan has lost over 60% of its most active members to the Diablo 3 plague that's sweeping the globe. Bartz numbers are down and it's evident in Aden. The shops, karita groups and players are half of what they were pre Diablo. In order to get these people back you guys really need to step it up.
ah yes... I remember people yelling at NCSoft to release a certain update called "Goddess". "Release it, we are bored. we need it. we are capped." They released Goddess of Destruction without putting through the test server and guess what happened? yeah..... lets not push NCSoft to rush an order again... besides, it's too late. D3, despite the "error 37" is off and running, and will grow stronger because they have yet to release the other features. A smart move, imo. Sorry, Broski, you can't push a rock any faster than it can roll. just wait for the patch and let us signal the death knell of this great and wonderful institution. oh and have a happy memorial day. rock on.
We can't forget about Blade & Soul, NCsoft is doing a great job in their new games: can't wait to play my force master, it looks as good as GW2's necromancer or mesmer.
My clan has lost over 60% of its most active members to the Diablo 3 plague that's sweeping the globe. Bartz numbers are down and it's evident in Aden. The shops, karita groups and players are half of what they were pre Diablo. In order to get these people back you guys really need to step it up.
its because diablo 3 > lineage 2 : )
it was good choice to quit this old as hell engine mmo to diablo :)
That's why I don't see you in hero chat on Naia.
Maybe they don't but it sure as hell determines how many people know about that game. L2 would never hit such records.
Publicity is more than enough to have that game sold way more and played way more than L2.
One example is that i visit siliconera and andriasang sites a lot for game's info, many companies there but there's never see news about NCsoft except for guild wars 2, and if there is, it's pretty rare. I see more stuff about phantasy star online 2 than any other NC developed game.
I play Lineage 2, League, and GW2. All three games are excellent, but I play each depending on my mood. LoL I play when I want quick instant action to wipe people on the floor. I play L2 for using time and socializing with nicer people compared to most games I've played. I only played GW2 a few times, but it's my epic game I play w/ rl life friends. Basically a game isn't good or bad based on statistics, but rather preference. I wish you guys would get this point instead of bickering endlessly about nothing.
correction, we got lame classes that lack diversity and terrible skills that make pvp less enjoyable.
what runied this game ?:)
freya siege : no lag , decent fps , 3rd soft etc
god : LAG LIKE hell , 5 fps with lower details , 3rd soft etc
to prevent lag you need to buy lower ping or battleping so hi truly-free :)
dont pay for it == you are 50 years behind everything .
All what ncsoft support saying about lag is : you need to change your isp . good one !
ppl lag even on 7v7 so this game is so "enjoyable" .
tauti wont fix anything .
Also, something must be done against the countless hordes of afk players/shops crowding Aden (especially around Kartia npc) so that it's impossible to walk across the town at any given moment.
They could move the kartia npc in a different but still easy to get location in aden.It's really overcrowded like this.
Also,diablo3 took many of naia's players,believe it or not cant find 90+ dds on party matching!
Ncwest has to make more efforst with good events that dont require to buy nc coins all of the time!!!!!!!!This herald buff if we had it on for 2-3 weeks and not on last week only,many people could stay ''tuned'' puting lvling goals.
As for updates,sure geting the update is good,i am not sure if these specific updates will help on bringing people to game, from what i've seen they dont add something new or good,they dont solve the adena problem 95+ toons have,they even destroy some things like the tw wars(no reason for players to log for tw anymore>?)for me atleast they 'r poor updates.
Game in our servers has 2 big problems 1) lag which turned the mass server adventures- siege from the what almost everyone was waiting into a lag torture (do people still remember how many toons were ''watching'' in towns the sieges?like watching a football match on tv)
2)getting fun in game has been translated into buy more nc coins and all game's feautures that were moments of relaxing-enjoying and producing goodies are gone.
My personal best moments of the day were early evenings setting up a sell shop with items that were in high demand on 1 account,and do some fishing on my 2d account in giran were i could also listen the shouts of people and could answer to someone if i was selling what he was asking,drinking my coffee,doing some chat with friends.Later,i could log on main,find my clannies and start pvping,or go grind,or go raids and some other early evenings i could not fish at all but check all shops and do more buy/sells.
Game in our servers has 2 big problems 1) lag which turned the mass server adventures- siege from the what almost everyone was waiting into a lag torture
This! I'm just hoping they released the darning engine update due to server cross wars, which is not even oficialy claimed and should take lot of time to hit us..by then, half of the population deserted.
This is L2 Legit not a private server. They don't do server requests. Doubtful that even doing so would bring the masses back. But if you miss C1 so much, go find a private one and see you back here in a week. bye
Game itself is not bad at all, but it need people to Take care of it, when Sace says the word (we), it would be nice to know how many people is she talking about because it seems like they are not enough.
Tauti will not revive L2 because NCWest does not advertise, that is the difference between them and Blizzard. You look almost anywhere and you will see Blizzard games on the television and in magazines, where do you see NCSoft games?
The problem is the masses do not know Lineage 2 exists, but mention WoW or Diablo and you get an instant "yeah, I know it".
Advertisements will not save this game from losing players. I'm not sure why you think that. The game is free now, that should be all the advertisement it needs, but there are still more players leaving than coming.
People know WoW and Diablo because more people play that game, thus more people know people who play that game and by extension know of them. The same cannot be said for Lineage II (here).
Yes many ppl leave because this game ( most beautiful game in the world ) still have big problems with how fast you make exp and items are expensive. To do something here need to play 20 hours from 24 every day ... for us other who have work, family you dont do to much with 2-3 hours / day. I have 2 friends who play from when GOD was lunched and they play 12-14 hours/ day and they are lvl 93 now +3 subclasses lvl 76-79 and all this in 6 months i buyed vit potions but this cost me to much 5 $ for 3 vit potions is to much i think... in wow and Diablo is more easy to do all this. You need simplify game a little more because ppl after 7-8 years are bored to kill millions of mobs to do exp .... ok nolifers will flame me now but this is my opinion.
This is L2 Legit not a private server. They don't do server requests. Doubtful that even doing so would bring the masses back. But if you miss C1 so much, go find a private one and see you back here in a week. bye
Can you find that server for me please?
The other major downside to NCWest is they have a long running bad reputation for how they managed the game and treat they players. For years bots and cheaters have run rampart in the game unchecked, players complain and report but little is ever done.
It has only gotten worse with F2P. Granted all MMO's have bots but in L2 they are so visibile anybody with half a brain can see them. In WoW, Tera, Rift, etc you do not see them often because they blend in with other players.
The few people I know who used to play the game always say the same thing: "They still have tons of bots and 3rd party users?", "Do their tech support people still say we need better internet and PC's to fix things?"
So many reasons why I left these servers for Korean ones, but the two largest were the poor managment and massive bottting/cheating. The game is not fun anymore, there is no challenge here and most of the good players are long gone due to the same reasons.
I still won't touch private servers, I would quit L2 complete before lowering myself to the level of theives.
People know WoW and Diablo because more people play that game
Not true...more people know about wow in my country because of TV advertisements and game magazines, it's hard not to notice. And game sites like Mygames which my country people frequent have always talked about WOW, it's expansions and so on...whereas L2 is not mentioned, i can go on the streets and ask anyone, "hey u know world of warcraft?- yeah my son/brother plays it" or " that game they say always on TV?", with L2 i get thsi reply "L2?". Advertisement IS the key.
Not true...more people know about wow in my country because of TV advertisements and game magazines, it's hard not to notice. And game sites like Mygames which my country people frequent have always talked about WOW, it's expansions and so on...whereas L2 is not mentioned, i can go on the streets and ask anyone, "hey u know world of warcraft?- yeah my son/brother plays it" or " that game they say always on TV?", with L2 i get thsi reply "L2?". Advertisement IS the key.
I don't think that it has something to do with adds, but with the game features, people, maily in west, want to see innovation, they want to see amusing gameplay, features and content, L2 lacks innovation compared with other MMOs, mainly the newest ones.
Most players here can hate it, but the thruth is: 95% of the market has already rejected click-to-move in a non-isometric game, fluid WASD gameplay came to stay, while click to move will continue being accepted only in isometric games(like Diablo, Lineage Eternal, etc... for example).
Players want to see interesing skills and creative classes-gameplay, as well as a rich content, NC could spend million of dollars on advertisements for L2 here, but new players will leave as fast as they entered, and then they will go to GW2 or any other game with more interesting stuffs for them. For the eyes of almost all the west market, L2 has boring gameplay, boring classes, boring skills and poor content, nobody will stay to play a necro in L2, for example, if a Necro in GW2 or a Warlock in WoW are much more fun and creative for them, my friends.
Innovation is part of the key..but that is a risk, like people hyping TERA and i found it diferent but many didnt find it adicting no matter what new goods had to offer.
WOW for me isnt inovating lol actually if you look at all games, not just MMO, players ARE complaining with "innovations", like just happened to L2, they innovated and it was a let down, sonic games innovated for awhile and everybody complained, same for FF13 and ff13-2, devil may cry reboot, dragon ball 3d style, megaman and so on and these are all some of the best sold titles for the past 10-20 years. This "innovation" is what's killing the games, in this case L2. Developers aren't being true to what the game is about and on top of that they don't make it known to the public. Also RPGs are about giving options and choice, and L2 shortened them.
We actually have a good player base, theyre just not in retail. And really, it's understandable, the point that oficial L2 came to, it just scares people away, drives old players away aswell.
If you compare WoW classes with L2 ones, you can see how WoW classes are richer than L2, and they require more strategies than simply spamming skills. The changes in L2 failed to please its player base and also couldn't make the game more attractive for new players who are used to other MMOs. So there is no advertisement that can help L2 in west with those features.
Lineage 2 was never actually meant for the Western market since Koreans have a completely different playing style; they are dedicated grinders. Many of the L2 game mechanics are developed for their style because they do not pay monthly, they pay in hours. That is the reason the mentor system and many of the events are coded the way they are, the longer they keep players online the more money NCEast makes per hour.
With today's MMO's outside of Korea everything is about leveling as fast as you can to reach end game. The other thing is players now are not the same as when many of us played in the early days of L2, they want everything now and they want the latest in game mechanics.
The few people I talked into trying L2 soon after GoD went live quit only hours after when they learned they could not use WASD movement the way it was meant to be used. Although I am not into the WASD system 99% of games now use it and that is what players are used to, so when they find a game without it they find it awkward.
I have nothing against the mechanics, interface and movement system in Lineage 2; the thing I dislike the most is the management. For me Lineage 2 will always be my favorite MMORPG, I dedicated 8 years to it but like so many I just got bored here.
With today's MMO's outside of Korea everything is about leveling as fast as you can to reach end game. The other thing is players now are not the same as when many of us played in the early days of L2, they want everything now and they want the latest in game mechanics.
I have nothing against the mechanics, interface and movement system in Lineage 2; the thing I dislike the most is the management. For me Lineage 2 will always be my favorite MMORPG, I dedicated 8 years to it but like so many I just got bored here.
Its hard to believe I have spent 8 years in this game. Loved it when it came out and spent many late nights up grinding to get to the next level. There are not to many people I know from closed beta that still play the game. Most have moved on and like you said players today want everything now.
I have played every new game that has come out and have taken breaks from the game but for me it is still my favorite mmo.
The few people I talked into trying L2 soon after GoD went live quit only hours after when they learned they could not use WASD movement the way it was meant to be used. Although I am not into the WASD system 99% of games now use it and that is what players are used to, so when they find a game without it they find it awkward.
I don't think that it has something to do with adds, but with the game features, people, maily in west, want to see innovation, they want to see amusing gameplay, features and content, L2 lacks innovation compared with other MMOs, mainly the newest ones.
Most players here can hate it, but the thruth is: 95% of the market has already rejected click-to-move in a non-isometric game, fluid WASD gameplay came to stay, while click to move will continue being accepted only in isometric games(like Diablo, Lineage Eternal, etc... for example).
Players want to see interesing skills and creative classes-gameplay, as well as a rich content, NC could spend million of dollars on advertisements for L2 here, but new players will leave as fast as they entered, and then they will go to GW2 or any other game with more interesting stuffs for them. For the eyes of almost all the west market, L2 has boring gameplay, boring classes, boring skills and poor content, nobody will stay to play a necro in L2, for example, if a Necro in GW2 or a Warlock in WoW are much more fun and creative for them, my friends.
Innovation is the key.
Remember: I'm not talking about the grind, I like grind, but the outdated L2 mechanics and class-paradigm, the biggest hindrance of L2 when put along with other MMOs. L2 also need more daily quests, and daily instances, the current kamas-labas are not enough.
L2 doesn't need more instances, just more quests and areas. Instances is what is starting to kill the game for old pvpers. I'm getting sick of doing instances, it's too much. Having weekly instances, very well, daily-> NO!
yeah and dont forget the faction wars and battlegrounds... awesome innovations
L2 is not a faction game, but it'd be interesting to implement intanced arenas where players who like it could play just for fun, they also could farm points to buy arena gear, but this gear could be used only within these arenas.
But I don't know if it could attract this kind of player because all of them like only WASD gameplay. So they will stay in GW2-WoW-TERA or similar games.
Not true...more people know about wow in my country because of TV advertisements and game magazines, it's hard not to notice. And game sites like Mygames which my country people frequent have always talked about WOW, it's expansions and so on...whereas L2 is not mentioned, i can go on the streets and ask anyone, "hey u know world of warcraft?- yeah my son/brother plays it" or " that game they say always on TV?", with L2 i get thsi reply "L2?". Advertisement IS the key.
No. WoW was popular from the beginning because the Lore was insanely popular, also it was released after EverQuest and around a similar time as EQ2 - both were very grindy games back then (85+ levels, thousands of AA points, etc.).
Advertisement has nothing to do with it. NCSoft cannot save itself with advertising. If that was the case they'd have kept the subscription model and done some advertisement, since there would be more revenue possibilities that way (especially if they STILL introduced the L2Store).
WoW has a virtual monopoly on MMORPGs because in these types of games a huge playerbase speaks for itself.
When someone wants to play an MMORPG, they will go where their friends/family/guild/etc. are/is going. In most cases, that's WoW. Peer pressure plays a huge role - and what country you're in doesn't change that.
Up until WoW, EverQuest enjoyed the same status here in the US. Since it had the most subscribers - most new MMORPG players went to EQ because everyone they knew playing MMORPGs were likely EQ players. That won't change. That's how it works in these games.
The playerbase is actually much better and effective advertisement than whatever TV or in-store ads you see.
No matter how good NCSoft tries to make L2 look. If someone knows 10 people on a WoW server but 0 playing L2, they aren't going to play this game.
Remember: I'm not talking about the grind, I like grind, but the outdated L2 mechanics and class-paradigm, the biggest hindrance of L2 when put along with other MMOs. L2 also need more daily quests, and daily instances, the current kamas-labas are not enough.
Its hard to believe I have spent 8 years in this game. Loved it when it came out and spent many late nights up grinding to get to the next level. There are not to many people I know from closed beta that still play the game. Most have moved on and like you said players today want everything now.
I have played every new game that has come out and have taken breaks from the game but for me it is still my favorite mmo.
It's not about wanting everything now.
A game is only as good as its content and L2 has very little content, thus it isn't seen as being a good game by most people.
Not sure why you people think everyone wants everything NOW.
People don't get Heroic/Epic Raid gear in EQ2/WoW the minute they ding max level - you can spend months waiting on an item to drop. I didn't get one trinket that was BiS for my class until like 2 weeks before Cataclysm, when it became obsolete. That's how it works. They don't have all the AAs just cause they got to max level. In Games like EQ2 they even have to farm spell upgrades.
The problem is that there isn't enough to do in this game that is even remotely entertaining. The grind is boring, their raid content is embarassing, their group content is monotanous, and they r@ped the solo content in GoD.
Even with all the instances, WoW still had a fair amount of open world content. They have daily quests. They have solo and group content. They have EM and HM content. Their end-game content is so superior to this that it isn't even funny.
What are you going to do when you're max level? That's the question people ask themselves then they think about dedicating their time to an MMORPG.
There simply isn't much to do, and the PvP doesn't make up for it. The PvP is actually worse than in other games for a variety of issues (mechanics, movement system which is why I'd never play a dagger in this game, gear/buff/level disparity issues, etc.).
Also, people do not like the whole "you're useless without buffs" system. Everyone I've tried to get to play this game quit because of that and the fact that they didn't feel like they should have to level up two toons just to solo on one. Some of us can put up with that (those of us who boxed 3-4 toons even when the game was pay to play), but a majority of people simply won't put up with it.
The Holy Trinity system that they've started enforcing for all group content is also griefing some players away. They're tired of waiting for upwards of an hour or more in Party Matching for a Tank or Healer just because they had to work that day and the few that are in there have already done it 6 hours ago.
It is so funny, that you think all time, that the main reason is another MMO if the Lineage 2 start drop 1-1 times its players.
Example many players play in my clan but only 1 of them went play Tera who after left it and went to play D3.
Lets see peoples currently is summer period peoples enjoy the good weather with the families, parties.
Also I just can say that a part of my friendship from the game and clan mates study for the university exams too.
Many of those players who went to play D3 or Tera or will go play GW2 or any upcoming game will return to here after some weeks or months.
I wait also the Tauti update but maybe would be better if the NCwest would wait the release of it until July, to this time will decrease the D3 and Tera mania also the GW2 will release already before it with some weeks.
Yes, the biggest problem of the Lineage 2 that it hasn't active promotion in EU/NA. While every garbage game get bigger promotion.
But seems the NCsoft decided, they will solve this problem globally! NCsoft teamed with a Korean cinema maker company to make a movie about the Lineage 2!!!! What would be bigger promotion for the game like a well designed fantasy movie????
Also since the Glory Days update released in Korea the Lineage 2 more played than the Tera and the release of the Diablo 3 wasn't with effect of the activity of Lineage 2.
So yes, the Tauti, the Glory Days and the Glory of Blood Alliance update will shake up the Lineage 2 again in PvP and PvE area too.
The GoBA will take tons of new features what is mostly help to return for the Lineage 2 to the C1-C5 times while keep the currently good features too.
And what is a new weapon of the Lineage 2 against the Tera, GW2 and D3, that the Lineage 2 is totally free.
Everybody can return anytime without pay monthly fee for it.
What's that? Diablo III came out, and the Lineage II servers are empty?
Time for me to play again. :)
I don't suppose we'd be lucky enough that the bots packed up and left?
Seriously though, Diablo III, although some people would like to think otherwise, isn't going to be a long-term game for the majority. It's the same group of internet gaming nomads that move from the latest hot game to the next, and they get bored quickly. Next it will be Guild Wars 2, and we can see this process play out again. Diablo III might be amazing, but we've got a lot more options now than we did in Diablo II's heyday, and Blizzard's games aren't as special as they used to be. You can look forward to Diablo III's longevity being somewhat like StarCraft II's. It'll be hot for a few months, there will be a blip and another hot month when the expansion comes out, but it won't hold like Diablo II did, just like StarCraft II didn't get close to the original's popularity.
And Lineage players will be Lineage players. Those who love the game are going to keep returning, no matter what else is available. The F2P wave is mostly over now though, and the numbers probably won't reach those levels again, Tauti or not. Despite being free, Lineage II is still largely an unfriendly game at the gameplay level, and the brick wall (Or whatever you want to call it) at 86+ is never going to make for a game that's popular with the masses.
What's that? Diablo III came out, and the Lineage II servers are empty?
Time for me to play again. :)
I don't suppose we'd be lucky enough that the bots packed up and left?
Seriously though, Diablo III, although some people would like to think otherwise, isn't going to be a long-term game for the majority. It's the same group of internet gaming nomads that move from the latest hot game to the next, and they get bored quickly. Next it will be Guild Wars 2, and we can see this process play out again. Diablo III might be amazing, but we've got a lot more options now than we did in Diablo II's heyday, and Blizzard's games aren't as special as they used to be. You can look forward to Diablo III's longevity being somewhat like StarCraft II's. It'll be hot for a few months, there will be a blip and another hot month when the expansion comes out, but it won't hold like Diablo II did, just like StarCraft II didn't get close to the original's popularity.
And Lineage players will be Lineage players. Those who love the game are going to keep returning, no matter what else is available. The F2P wave is mostly over now though, and the numbers probably won't reach those levels again, Tauti or not. Despite being free, Lineage II is still largely an unfriendly game at the gameplay level, and the brick wall (Or whatever you want to call it) at 86+ is never going to make for a game that's popular with the masses.
I really want Tauti too though. :)
Yes I do agree with many things what you say.
D3 isn't a long term game as the hype season (the upcoming some weeks). Will start leave the D3, but as I hear everywhere, that it is really short game so can happen that most of the players play it out in 1-2 weeks totally and after they won't care about it anymore.
As I did read someone did talk here about the mystical new blizzard mmo the Titan, well I not really follow what the blizzard do I just know about this game it will be an MMOFPS and will have Sci-Fi area.
The reason because they won't hit with it the WoW's playerbase in its category but they can open to the way of a new players base, mostly I guess to way of CoD and BF players.
So it isn't also what about we have to worry.
But yes as you told nowadays bigger an bigger the number of the "mmo nomads". Who join to the actually newest, most hyped or free games play with it some weeks or months after they rush to another game.
These peoples I guess just mean problem in every MMOs, because these peoples overload the servers so the real fans can't enter to game, can't get free spots etc.
But with the Tauti and Glory Days the revamped world of Lineage 2 will become to way more funny and interesting. But mainly with the Glory of Blood Alliance I guess the game will take some real "next-generation stuffs".
So easily will can happen, that the second half of this year we will can see again full servers or may new servers too.
Yes many ppl leave because this game ( most beautiful game in the world ) still have big problems with how fast you make exp and items are expensive. To do something here need to play 20 hours from 24 every day ... for us other who have work, family you dont do to much with 2-3 hours / day. I have 2 friends who play from when GOD was lunched and they play 12-14 hours/ day and they are lvl 93 now +3 subclasses lvl 76-79 and all this in 6 months i buyed vit potions but this cost me to much 5 $ for 3 vit potions is to much i think... in wow and Diablo is more easy to do all this. You need simplify game a little more because ppl after 7-8 years are bored to kill millions of mobs to do exp .... ok nolifers will flame me now but this is my opinion.
+1. When I was in school, before I got a job and had pretty much all day any day to play L2, it was a blast--the most fun I have ever had in a game. Being top level with top items in a top clan, PVP all the time, that is how L2 is to be played.
But now I have a life and only play ~10 hours a week. The social aspect is a yawn, the levels stretch out forever (even with the +++ XP rates now), and I'm sick of buying runes just to stay in the race. I don't know what NCsoft needs to change, but L2 lost its magic when I stopped playing it as a full time job.
Perhaps Yunalesca was talking about orcs in WoW?
Now im wondering if he was refering to orcs in L2 or wow, coz i was refering to those ugly dwarves and orcs from WOW.
Well, Lineage Eternal can be seen as an improved Lineage 1, it'd be cool if NC made an improved L2 announcing a "Lineage 3".
Even Blade&Soul could fit very well as a "L3": Just add a huge open world with open world bosses, enable clan wars and pk as well as sieges, make some adjustments on the races(bringing Dwarfs, dark elfs, and elfs...) and then, L3 is done:
Please, NC turn B&S into Lineage 3. It needs just some adjustments instead of creating a game from 0. The biggest problem would be a total rewite in lore(yes, it will take time and work).