Sick of Kartia

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Everyone is saying that they are sick of kartia, Teredor, Swamp and Harnak to level until they hit lvl 90 and now someone came with the "bright" idea to increase Zelaka's HP, so now we'll hate that boring and repetitive fail instance even more...


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I don't think anyone has ever been forced to do Kartia...
Well kind of you are. Unless you stop the game, the instance give a lot of xp and is kind of forcing you to do it. Some variation in the instances would be nice. E.g., there is no big difference between 85 kartia and 90 kartia. Why could 90 kartia be some new area, a jungle, a forest or a city with open sky or something where you have to fly.
same with kartia solo, ive stopped doing it altogether its just boring as hell.

Kartia group is merely ok but repetitive after a while, it should be a once a week instance. Grinding is actually ok~
Well kind of you are. Unless you stop the game, the instance give a lot of xp and is kind of forcing you to do it. Some variation in the instances would be nice. E.g., there is no big difference between 85 kartia and 90 kartia. Why could 90 kartia be some new area, a jungle, a forest or a city with open sky or something where you have to fly.

I hit 90 way before there was ever a kartia on our servers, so everyone can level the same way I did without kartia.
Meh, they seemed to boost the Zellaka HP in solo instance without increasing the XP. I went full on the guy yet it took 3-4 minutes longer for it to fall this time. Buff pot wasted.
Meh, they seemed to boost the Zellaka HP in solo instance without increasing the XP. I went full on the guy yet it took 3-4 minutes longer for it to fall this time. Buff pot wasted.

If you real all of patch notes you'll se that HP of Zellaka increase, number of Guards decrease.
In other hand, Zellaka is a piece of paper, the only "hard" moment is when all the mobs pop at stage 7. Manage your own guards etc and Zellaka fall in 2 min.
in my opinion and without any offence everyone must stop qq about kartia and so cause xp now is extremely easy!
and because i am thinking that all who qq now are new players meaning after god era you should know that before god to go from 82 to 83 you needed 3+ months!!!!
so stop complaining and dont be selfish and greedy(including me)
remove kartia and roll back servers to GD launch !
i'm not qq'ing about kartia, it's the main tool to lvl up , atleast till 90 , dunno after that , but when i read in the patch notes that the number of mobs will be decreased i was like : yeaaaa , i thought that they will decrease the number of waves at every stage, like just 1 wave of mobs at each stage , not 2-3 waves like before , no more boredom in kartia (doesn't matter bigger hp on zelaka , you don't get borred fighting zelaka anyway) , this way going faster we can save 2-3 more prisoners wich is very helpfull for those who don't have skills to save them like iss,aore,sigel , instead , same number of mob waves, just that the number of mobs/wave is reduced but the waiting time is the same , now i'm like : :(
the k95 after the tauti downgrade is a real pain

in Harmony it took meabout 30min to finish the instance .. already boring as hell .. but now its almost 60min and not a bit challenging, it yust take longer.

and on top of that .. the new reward is 1! elemental stone fragment.
Seems Zellaka no longer fears the NPCs?
I hit 90 way before there was ever a kartia on our servers, so everyone can level the same way I did without kartia.

Theres no good party spot between 90 and 95...SoA/Harnak are too low, Orbis is too high and GoG is just crap xp. So you are kinda forced to farm Kartia/Spezion/Fortuna.
Theres no good party spot between 90 and 95...SoA/Harnak are too low, Orbis is too high and GoG is just crap xp. So you are kinda forced to farm Kartia/Spezion/Fortuna.

True, unless you're a summoner or feoh, in which case Fairy area works quite well.
i hit 90 way before there was ever a kartia on our servers, so everyone can level the same way i did without kartia.

+1 :d
in my opinion and without any offence everyone must stop qq about kartia and so cause xp now is extremely easy!
and because i am thinking that all who qq now are new players meaning after god era you should know that before god to go from 82 to 83 you needed 3+ months!!!!
so stop complaining and dont be selfish and greedy(including me)

I've been playing L2 since '06, and I'm still playing it for its pvp / mass pvp system.
The boss fights are nearly the same, but now most of the RB are in instances so no more pvp (Baium, Anty, Valakas spawns were a delight for top clans).
The craft system is a mess, the spoil is useless (try getting ertel by your own).

Now I'm looking at the great awesome and truly new Tauti that should have brought major changes in the game play, instead in brought 2 new farm spots, Zariche's fail Brother, some talismans, light/dark system which is uselss, and as a bonus the auction house is blocked and maintained the bugs from GOD.

I'm wondering how much longer untill ArcheAge appears so I could play a truly pvp based MMORPG, not a care bear kinder garden version of Lineage 2...
after test it yes impossible for wizard take like 60 min most part cuz never let you attack him always behind you, take all 30 min buff and more that half buff potion :eek: death breath bug same as lumi etc remove only half hp that should.
Looks like I'll have to go kill Zellaka on my Feoh sub to see if it really is that bad.
R95 Kartia pre Tauti ~20min to finish on Tank, now in Tauti 40+ min which wasn't funny as I didn't bring my old buf pots that incl. prophecy etc. as blessing pots only cover for the base bufs.. still next time that means most likely only that I will kill it at 35min and had to waste a buf pot just to finish the raid..

someone explain to me what the purpose of this 3x HP increase for all these raids was ? Octavis used to take like max a buf round with 2 parties and now it's almost a full hour..

this increase in time spent on these raids isn't going to work out with my real life as I just don't have the time to waste like that anymore so this is basically forcing me to become even more casual then I already was..
Ok, just did Zellaka on my Feoh sub.

It's now even easier than before. The mini bosses and the actual boss do less dmg, I seem to do more or same.

Zellaka dont fear the npcs anymore, which means the tank actually holds aggro most of the time.

And thanks to the new armor masteries, I can actually be a bit lazy with blinking and still do just fine.

I like it :D
Who isn't sick of kartia....you gotta be pretty high if you're uber excited to enter in that gloomy, repetitive and monotonous place everytime you're about to enter.
I stoped playing almost a month ago ,main reason was exatly this, kartia , how boring can l2 be now with this way of farming xp, I mean , not only for Kartia but all other intances so I quitted , and I'm here now because I was eager to see official Tauti patch notes and what new changes had come to live, maybe some new farm zones without being AN INSTANCE? :) and I've found that nothing significant has changed in that matter... or anyother realy :/

On the contrary I think the game is now making players waist even more of their time on those intances...so I think i'll keep my foot out of this one again...

Btw lvl90 + kartia intances they are all the same as before but with some minor changes(mobs and drops) and with the same boring style(BS)
Ok, just did Zellaka on my Feoh sub.

It's now even easier than before. The mini bosses and the actual boss do less dmg, I seem to do more or same.

Zellaka dont fear the npcs anymore, which means the tank actually holds aggro most of the time.

And thanks to the new armor masteries, I can actually be a bit lazy with blinking and still do just fine.

I like it :D

Do you realize that you choose to have a different point of view to almost every thread/topic that the majority of the ppl gives thumbs down?

Being the Devil's advocate or choosing to always look at the "bright" side of life, Does NOT make you special or smart, if that is the point of your extreeme delightfulness about this new update...

Unless ofc you get paid to be so **** PSYCHED... It Is Annoying... seriously
I play an Iss and I thought it went faster on solo kartia. I had no issue with it,but its boring and the rewards could be better.
cant say kartia is slower or faster, by just doing it 1 time
Do you realize that you choose to have a different point of view to almost every thread/topic that the majority of the ppl gives thumbs down?

Being the Devil's advocate or choosing to always look at the "bright" side of life, Does NOT make you special or smart, if that is the point of your extreeme delightfulness about this new update...

Unless ofc you get paid to be so **** PSYCHED... It Is Annoying... seriously

Ouch. Dude, I didnt pee in your cornflakes, get off my case.

This update just made my gameplay more enjoyable, should I be sad about that?

Get real...
Ok, just did Zellaka on my Feoh sub.

It's now even easier than before. The mini bosses and the actual boss do less dmg, I seem to do more or same.

Zellaka dont fear the npcs anymore, which means the tank actually holds aggro most of the time.

And thanks to the new armor masteries, I can actually be a bit lazy with blinking and still do just fine.

I like it :D

u are right first impression was wrong but, i guess you are healer well geared. agains new player with event stuff. Also first try i was unluck of a zellaka 100 % agro on me very strange.

But when you say is easy that ever, are trolling to be honest :p
He is not really fearing anyone but he still chases me all the same.
Anyway 2nd try, lvl 89 Feoh + wizard harmony finished just 5 seconds before the melodies are gone.
i just did kartia solo myself 89 feoh and for anyone saying its gotten harder it has not still only takes me 23-26 min to finish.maybe should work on ele armor and weapon.
Casuals. Casuals everywhere. There are good spots everywhere if you know how to AoE. hitting 90 doesn't magically make the game better, hitting 95+ doesn't make it any better. Get out while you still can. To those who choose to stay, welcome back aboard. You've been here before.
He is not really fearing anyone but he still chases me all the same.
Anyway 2nd try, lvl 89 Feoh + wizard harmony finished just 5 seconds before the melodies are gone.

I'm only lvl 88 on my Feoh sub. But it takes roughly the same time as before, maybe a minute less.

If he is chasing you, just stop nuking a bit and the tank will grab aggro. I have never had to run much more than a minute or so.

I always use Wiz harmony also.

i just did kartia solo myself 89 feoh and for anyone saying its gotten harder it has not still only takes me 23-26 min to finish.maybe should work on ele armor and weapon.

23 mins seems right around what it takes me too.
95 kartia takes me 24 minutes now and I've got to look at the screen during the last part rather than just hitting my tree/chain heal macro QQ.

I agree though, it's boring as hell.

I love the idea of solo instances and 30min quests you can do but 5 months of exactly the same routine SUCKS. L2 player base has matured and it's harder to do the 3-14 hour grind parties so 30 minute instances helped, but there's simply too little variety and they're alienating people by trying to force them to buy buff pots by making the instances take over 30 minutes.

Why not just make instances that give great rewards in a short time but you have to pay for them?
...Why not just make instances that give great rewards in a short time but you have to pay for them?

ok, are you being serious here? really? asking to pay for an instance be made? rofl
ok, are you being serious here? really? asking to pay for an instance be made? rofl

I work 12 hours a day and get maybe 4 hours spare at night, which gets mostly spent on l2. If I could pay for an instance that gave decent drops and xp to keep up with others who can spend 12 hours a day in game I'd be happy. The developers are clearly screwing kartia and istina to make people need to buy buff pots/xp items, I'd rather pay for fun instances than have boring free ones that are designed to encourage people to pay. Atm all stuff in game is so repetitive and unrewarding it's simply not fun to do.

Edit: ironically istina was one instance that made most people buy XP runes and nevit buffs.
ill pay for xp scrolls !