Recently I have done Olympiad and saw that tyrr warriors can no longer preberserker. In order to prezerk we are forced to take off gaiters and our hp drops below 40%. I have tried by buyin crappy dyes dex +4 con-3 still doesn't work. I have always though that the conversion sa and health sa are percent based but apparently not. I have tried various manuvers and still no luck. Is this a bugged or was it ment to be like this. Also tyrr warriors berserker skills levels up to level three but the skill doesn't get enhanced the time is the same no dmg increase nothing.
guess it depends on race, i can't prezerk on my kamalol unless i remove gaiters and drop to abot 40% as you said, but on humans and especially orks it woks wonders. the problem is that the hp of health seems to be applied on total hp ignoring the new mastery
Had similar problem, but easy to solve, dont use any ogre or second wind at start, use bless body sa, before match start put health weapon and u ready to use berserker, after use ogre and second wind you start almost with full hp.
I'm a Kamael Tyrr Warrior, and I can't pre Berserker Rage anymore too. Conversion --> Health brings my HP to 66% of its total, so it's impossible to use the skill. If I take off breastplate or gaiters it works, because the HP bonus of heavy armor mastery comes off (as it was before Tauti).
Is this a bug or what?
Leohart I am also a kamael we are trying to figure out wat went wrong. We are all having issues if we take off the gaiters or breastplate and prezerk like thy wat happens we drop like 35 % hp then I pop second wind and feral ogre puts me up to 45 - 50% hp when before I use to prezerk use second wind and be at 80%. I am tried buying con dyes that decrease ur hp doesn't work I have tried taking off my power shirt I tried different ways. I Reyes momentum force which decreases ur hp but my hp heals fast than it drops my health. SACE CAN YOU HELP US PLEASE
The problem is the HP Boost we got in Tauti (from the Glory Days update, lol).
It doesn't count for berserker.
Pre Tauti i used conversion -> +4 s duals -> berserker.
However it still works for me to use conversion -> health weapon.
(But can't rly compare with others since i use OE Vesper noble Hvy with MW parts)
Anyway, this "bug" should get fixed. Did anyone reported that already? If yes, what was the respond?
How about you just get a health wep, wear it going in take buffs, switch to homu with conversion, switch back to health wep, and bam you can beserk. Old school but still works.
JohnnyV this issue is because of that, you can't unless your using different oly buffs. But i take horn drum guitar lute, and it doesnt work i take my **** sword with converion and i take dwarven hammer with health i cant proc it off.
Lol it's bugged not lack of ability u can no longer prezerk using conversion sa health Sa you must remove ur gaiters in order to do it now which drops you to like 35% hp compared to 60% hp. So it's bugged bro due to tauti update where everyone got hp boost. And u know why it's bugged cause the conversion sa and health sa are percent based so it should always be below 60 % but it's not and figures gms ignore the topic I haven't even received a reply back from my support ticket I made 3 days ago lol
The issue is from the Ninja Patches that added an HP boost to armor masteries. We already posted an announcement about it here (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/announcements/tauti-community-update.php).
Juji that doesn't help at all. We all know that this was something that should normally be part of the "Glory Days" update.
Tho it doesn't explain why the HP boost doesn't work with Berserker Rage/HP+Conversion Weapons.
Juji I understand the hp boost but from that it has bugged the prezerk where before all you had to do was conversion sa health sa then prezerk then ur main weapon feral ogre and second wind. Now I can't even do that anymore our main problem and concern is the issue with the conversion sa and health sa gonna be resolved or is it stayin like thAt.
It's really not that hard to figure out how to pre-zerk and start the match with more hp, people are just too lazy or ignorant to do it. Just because it's not handed to you with a simple weapon switch doesn't mean it's impossible. Played my titan alt in Oly for years and never once had an issue with pre-zealot, could even do it without OtB and start the match at full cp.
Shunsui this isnt c4 c5 when zealot and frenzy use to be op where you one shot people and have amazing attackin speed. The only reason i am complaining cause i am a competitive player who does oly all the time, and when you go from 400 + points to 250+ is and big disappointment. And its not because of how i play it is because i am forced to use berserker rage during a battle which either two things happen. Either it gets cancelled, or I die because its so long of a cast even with BSSR since it is a magic skill. I am just saying that its messed up how one they dont give tyrr warriors any updates, two the berserker rage when it levels from 1 to 3 it doesnt get any better look at tht stats they stay the same AND lastly they now mess it up so you can no prezerk unless you take off your gaiters. I even went out my way to sacrifice one of three legendary 5 str dyes i had to get +4 dex -3 con thinking the -3 con will let me prezerk. Just goes to show you how much prezerk really helps. I am just saying you might not be a competitive person and you might like pve but, I am a PvP animal. I just want to know if they will fix this or not. Duelist spirit isnt even removed when its suppose to be in the ninja patches when it says 3rd class change skills dont stack with 4th class change skills cause they still do. My main concern is that since tyrr warriors arent as op as titans i would still like to start out with 80 % percent compare to 40 % just saying.
okay, first of all titan with prefrenzy needed low hp (30%) while tyrr even with rage it's better to start with as many as possible (more than 80%)
second, decreasing con will worse the thing, human dwarfs and especially orcs don't have this problem because of their high con (you can try putting +3/6 con and i think it will work)
third the problem is that conversion and health don't work on current hp and ignore the passive, so it works like this:
Before:
16k hp - - - - conversion to 9600hp (60%) - - - - health to 20k hp (125% max hp) - - - - TOTAL = ~10k hp of 20k (50-55%) - > Rage
Now:
16k+5k hp - - - - conversion to 9600 + 5k hp (73%) - - - - health to 20k +5k hp (125% max hp) - - - - TOTAL = ~16k hp of 25k (63-67%) - > no Rage
p.s. if in korea it's like this we'll have to keep it
I find it hillarious, when the olympiad gates open and a tyrr comes at me with berserker rage. I simply kite their *** around then pop +15 duelist spirit and boost and wreck them. They then proceed to call me names and say run around more (insert more swear words here) lol. :cool:
I find it hillarious, when the olympiad gates open and a tyrr comes at me with berserker rage. I simply kite their *** around then pop +15 duelist spirit and boost and wreck them. They then proceed to call me names and say run around more (insert more swear words here) lol. :cool:
how many mastery did you use? 2nd class skill has 4% chance to go from +14 to +15 at lvl 99 and 0% at lvl 98...
Just goes to show you then that ncsoft has made this game worse while before god every question you had they had an answer now to bad it's not even like that anymore good game
Shunsui this isnt c4 c5 when zealot and frenzy use to be op where you one shot people and have amazing attackin speed. The only reason i am complaining cause i am a competitive player who does oly all the time, and when you go from 400 + points to 250+ is and big disappointment. And its not because of how i play it is because i am forced to use berserker rage during a battle which either two things happen. Either it gets cancelled, or I die because its so long of a cast even with BSSR since it is a magic skill. I am just saying that its messed up how one they dont give tyrr warriors any updates, two the berserker rage when it levels from 1 to 3 it doesnt get any better look at tht stats they stay the same AND lastly they now mess it up so you can no prezerk unless you take off your gaiters. I even went out my way to sacrifice one of three legendary 5 str dyes i had to get +4 dex -3 con thinking the -3 con will let me prezerk. Just goes to show you how much prezerk really helps.
I'm well aware we're not talking about titans using pre-zealot/frenzy, I'm simply saying if you're as competitive as you think you are, you'd know there are plenty of ways to get your hp down to where you want it to be to pop a skill and then back up to near full using only gear.
I love fighting people in Oly who use their 2-3 second cast skills directly in front of me, just begging to get interrupted. Plan ahead and duck around a corner to pop it.
I am just saying you might not be a competitive person and you might like pve but, I am a PvP animal. I just want to know if they will fix this or not. Duelist spirit isnt even removed when its suppose to be in the ninja patches when it says 3rd class change skills dont stack with 4th class change skills cause they still do. My main concern is that since tyrr warriors arent as op as titans i would still like to start out with 80 % percent compare to 40 % just saying.
This just made me laugh. I've been camping Oly on multiple toons since it was introduced in C4 and I pvp every day, for years as a fortune seeker and now as a tank.
Shunsui this isnt c4 c5 when zealot and frenzy use to be op where you one shot people and have amazing attackin speed. The only reason i am complaining cause i am a competitive player who does oly all the time, and when you go from 400 + points to 250+ is and big disappointment. And its not because of how i play it is because i am forced to use berserker rage during a battle which either two things happen. Either it gets cancelled, or I die because its so long of a cast even with BSSR since it is a magic skill. I am just saying that its messed up how one they dont give tyrr warriors any updates, two the berserker rage when it levels from 1 to 3 it doesnt get any better look at tht stats they stay the same AND lastly they now mess it up so you can no prezerk unless you take off your gaiters. I even went out my way to sacrifice one of three legendary 5 str dyes i had to get +4 dex -3 con thinking the -3 con will let me prezerk. Just goes to show you how much prezerk really helps. I am just saying you might not be a competitive person and you might like pve but, I am a PvP animal. I just want to know if they will fix this or not. Duelist spirit isnt even removed when its suppose to be in the ninja patches when it says 3rd class change skills dont stack with 4th class change skills cause they still do. My main concern is that since tyrr warriors arent as op as titans i would still like to start out with 80 % percent compare to 40 % just saying.
If you wanted to be a competitive tyrr in oly, you'd have duelist spirit...lol