Hi folks!
I am currently trying to decide what class I should choose as main (currently lvl 84,4 soultaker). Im kinda interested in the Enchanter class. Seems nice to always beeing able to be fully buffed. The heal is also nice ofc. BUT....yes but! Is it any fun to play or is it just another on-follow class like the Prophet was back in the days?
Will I be able to have fun during pve and pvp? Or is it simply not worth it making an Enchanter as main?
Would be greatfull to hear your opinions.
Edit: I have a Stone of Destiny so I am able to choose whatever class I want.
Hi folks!
I am currently trying to decide what class I should choose as main (currently lvl 84,4 soultaker). Im kinda interested in the Enchanter class. Seems nice to always beeing able to be fully buffed. The heal is also nice ofc. BUT....yes but! Is it any fun to play or is it just another on-follow class like the Prophet was back in the days?
Will I be able to have fun during pve and pvp? Or is it simply not worth it making an Enchanter as main?
Would be greatfull to hear your opinions.
Edit: I have a Stone of Destiny so I am able to choose whatever class I want.
First, Prophet can be a serious and fun class if you want.
You'll see a lot of people soloting with an Iss near.
But it can be a real pleasure to play it.
As Iss your job will be multi-tasking: Buffing your party of course, but also : Debuff ennemis by using physical attack skills, Control mobs by using root, fear, petrify and some other skills for incapacitate ennemies.
You'll be assist Healer too by using Healing Melody at the right time.
So Iss in an important part of a party functionnality, i play Iss and i've fun but to enjoy this kind of playing you'll have to like playing assist class.
And always use ur root, petrify skills etc.
Most Iss's only use the 2 debuff attack skills and that was it.
If played smart, it is a real badass class that can annoy a lot of ppl in pvp.
Because you have only a Iss bot ? or don't even play one ?
Playing Iss is for people who like assist others not to be MVP.
The advantage of being ISS is you don't have to do always the same compared to DDs ( Nuke nuke nuke or hit/skills/skills/hit) you have to be multitasking to be important in a group.
i say they're still the worst class in the game as compare to most other classes because i have to work with them day in and day out. they do nothing but sit around and turning themselves into pigs and stones which may or may not have been preventing me from breaking all their bones on occassions. but the one thing they'll never do is escape from the words of my fury. i have to yell at them to do what i want them to do no other class does this. they think they can just buffed us up like a prophet and then just sit back and relax drinking tea with their healer friends. oh no that is never going to work out at all. they can never be out of sight for even a fraction of a second or else we're all doomed. and yet despite all these i've starting to realize a growing number in their demands once again. i wonder why..
i say they're still the worst class in the game as compare to most other classes because i have to work with them day in and day out. they do nothing but sit around and turning themselves into pigs and stones which may or may not have been preventing me from breaking all their bones on occassions. but the one thing they'll never do is escape from the words of my fury. i have to yell at them to do what i want them to do no other class does this. they think they can just buffed us up like a prophet and then just sit back and relax drinking tea with their healer friends. oh no that is never going to work out at all. they can never be out of sight for even a fraction of a second or else we're all doomed. and yet despite all these i've starting to realize a growing number in their demands once again. i wonder why..
** God, i'm sad that you play with loliss.
Try to find Iss with brain and you'll see what kind of class is it.
@ Keeana
What you describe has nothing to do with the class itself. That has some to do with the ppl playing them.
Maybe you should start to friendinvite good Iss's.
(3 Days ago i did Kartia without Tank and without Healer. And we had only 1 death. You only need ppl that know what to do)
i understand that something like that can happen but oh so rarely. however i still believe that a good class should not be categorized by player skills(i.e. elite players who controls them) but or rather by how fluidly they can be handled by the mass majority. take for example the best fighter and have it controlled by a minor player as oppose to having the worst fighter be controlled by an elite. in the case of the iss it takes more control to be able to match up with the other classes which requires less effort. and to me that is not just only an imbalance but also nuissance that makes them the worst class.
ps, i know this is a far out cry but please try to reframe from flaming. ty
i understand that something like that can happen but oh so rarely. however i still believe that a good class should not be categorized by player skills(i.e. elite players who controls them) but or rather by how fluidly they can be handled by the mass majority. take for example the best fighter and have it controlled by a minor player as oppose to having the worst fighter be controlled by an elite. in the case of the iss it takes more control to be able to match up with the other classes which requires less effort. and to me that is not just only an imbalance but also nuissance that makes them the worst class.
ps, i know this is a far out cry but please try to reframe from flaming. ty
So, more a class is easy to play more the class is better fpr you ? Playing an hard class is better ( imho) cauze you need to be more concentrate, to be more exigent with yourself to play it better.
This is the worst ******** I've heard about my class.
The more demanding a class is, the more bad players stand out. An Iss incapable of realizing his/her true purpose in a party, an Aeore incapable of healing/rezzing, a Sigel incapable of pulling (and trust me, I've met countless handless tanks), stand out more than a badly played DD. For some reason everyone demands a lot from the Holy Trinity, but nobody says anything when a mage runs out of MP... Except for the healer.
And always use ur root, petrify skills etc.
Most Iss's only use the 2 debuff attack skills and that was it.
If played smart, it is a real badass class that can annoy a lot of ppl in pvp.
then unbalance it is: and we're not just talking about pvp wise here but the overall as a functioning vs sensibility wise class. and that's right. healers have been known to sip they teas on more than one occassions but no biggies. such minor variables are to be in exchange for the greater goods. oh and you there gl trying to dish out those orders cause there're always more of you where you came from. and finally a reminder that this is a topic of the best and worst class for the mass majority and arth not to be mistaken for those fews that are reserved for amongst the elites. with that said:
all i'm just trying to say is that supports are supports and should remain that why. sure they can make others strongers but they themselves should not be weak. or at least not without great efforts. they are classes reserved for and amongst the elites who plays them when they have the free time on their hands and nothing else to do to pass the boredom.
many of these players have 1 or 2 toons that plays dual box with their supporters which may or may not have made their efforts more less efficient. in terms of prowess it is still the dealer's job to deal out their cards and the reciever to decide what to do about those cards. and considering all the major factors that can come into play at any giving moment still the mass majority would rather prefer themselves being the dealer.
with that set aside being the worst class have it's ups and down. sometimes you may be able to get by for your maximum efficiencies and for your greatest efforts but most often times you must be punished for the inexcusible failers.
so why bother to go through all of that when you can just go spam some buttons, dish out demands, and then often times go on afk.
They're not supposed to unleash damage, but assist the damage dealers by debuffing enemies, assist the healer with crowd control skills and Healing Melody, buff Sonatas and whatever. They're an attention-demanding class, a fact that you try to ignore by telling us that Iss Enchanters are bad because they should be played as Hierophants.
Iss Enchanters are not Warcryers or Prophets who can go afk for 20 minutes after buffing the party.
As for healers sipping tea in the backyard... Change healer, or change game.
They're not supposed to unleash damage, but assist the damage dealers by debuffing enemies, assist the healer with crowd control skills and Healing Melody, buff Sonatas and whatever. They're an attention-demanding class, a fact that you try to ignore by telling us that Iss Enchanters are bad because they should be played as Hierophants.
Iss Enchanters are not Warcryers or Prophets who can go afk for 20 minutes after buffing the party.
As for healers sipping tea in the backyard... Change healer, or change game.
Shhhhhhh let him talkn he say that WE are the elite of player, he seems nice.
I believe a "good class" is one that relies on the player to provide the power, i.e. handled by a newbie it will be weak, handled by a "professional" it will be strong. You have to realize that there's no point in a competitive game if there's no competition. And there's also level and gear that makes a big difference.
But balance is not all about that. In party play it's also the OTHER players' skill that can affect your performance. Specially healers and enchanters have a lot of things they are able to do, but it's a question if doing them will interfere with their primary purposes.
Lineage is a team game, so every member counts and has its role. Every bad player means others have to pick up the slack and that usually piles up on the last defense line - the healer.
All that being said Iss Enchanters can be pretty annoying to pvp, specially for people that think it's all about dishing out damage.
it doesn't matter what class i play. i will come and steal the mobs from those iss and there nothing they can do about it. but yes, a wizard would be more suited to the task than most i'd figure. so the next time i see an iss they can annoy me if they want to then i can kill them if i want to.
it doesn't matter what class i play. i will come and steal the mobs from those iss and there nothing they can do about it. but yes, a wizard would be more suited to the task than most i'd figure. so the next time i see an iss they can annoy me if they want to then i can kill them if i want to.
at least it'll still be a tall proud standing statue immune to all attacks than having your *** kicked your body suspended in mid air and your face slamming down on the dirt 2 shots ftw
You can go hunting in a party without an Iss. Good luck with wipes.
Meh you know...a unbuffed party definitely can win vs a party full buffed with nocturne and battle rapsody. ;)
Meh you know...a unbuffed party definitely can win vs a party full buffed with nocturne and battle rapsody. ;)
An unbuffed party can win as long as its members don't take showers for at least 1 month...