Fine, as my last post has been removed will try to put a new one.
I am lineage 2 player is already one year, do I make my weekly donations of $ 50.00. My rage these last few weeks and I met some people through the illegal methods in less than half of my time on this server already have more than billion of Adena in their game accounts, all top equipment, including Jewelry, armor, weapons. I really do not understand that even though donor can not get close to these guys win in very little time. These people take the whole clan to top server, conquer castle, handle the sale of items in the game. And do not get anything chastisement for using illegal methods used to obtain it all. I'm sure the folks at NCsoft a company dedicated in the business of games that have full conscience. The only reason I'm posting this and I hope that Lineage 2 does not end up with dozens of game currently available that let players dominate the server, I can cite dozens of games failed but I prefer to leave the discretion to choose which one of each quote. So, no use getting putting a lot of cool stuff in L2store knowing that the best way to be top on the server and everyone knows getting a billionaire through illegal methods. There are people at war have tracking mechanisms of enemies. Not amazing, here's my tip to improve your game. I hope not delete my post again for telling the truth. It is very discouraging for people who invest in your game like me, know that our money does not have the proper value.
Fine, as my last post has been removed will try to put a new one.
So you're complaining of people breaking the rules by breaking the rules? Seems legit.
I am lineage 2 player is already one year, do I make my weekly donations of $ 50.00.
Where is the donate button?
Arcano, your post was not deleted, it was merged into the Birth of Draco event thread as it was not a constructive discussion as much as feedback and discussion about the event itself. Your post is here. (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3247118#post3247118) Unfortunately when a post is moved to another thread there is no tracer for it, but you can view all your posts from your User CP and find it that way.
Regarding this new post, please understand the following:
There are no "donations." Players have the option of purchasing items from the L2 Store and L2 Galleria, meaning you get items in exchange for your NCoin.
Purchase amounts, history, and choice do not guarantee a player will necessary "win the game." As explained in previous posts, the stores are available primarily as an source of fun items to enhance gameplay, and as an alternative approach to gameplay according to your personal playstyle and availability.
Cheating is against the EULA and we do catch and ban cheaters regularly.
It is possible to be a "dominant player/clan" through legitimate methods.
These are facts and are not topics that are open for discussion, although personal commentary is always welcome as long as it is constructive and follows the forum rules. However (non-OP readers), please stay on-topic as to the gist of the OP's suggestion.
As for this thread being in the Game Suggestions section, please clarify exactly what your suggestion is.
Sace pretty much summed it up. There is no "donating", you PURCHASE something. If you aren't happy with the game then don't buy anything then or quit playing it. I have told people this many times and I'm saying it to you. Stop worrying about what other people have and just play your toons. You don't have to buy a thing from that store and still have what anyone does,but it comes down to time and a lot of random luck.
A year is nothing, I've played since beta and this game is a cake walk now. I really just don't have any sympathy for you because you're handed so much now it's a joke.
Ok, do not think I expressed myself very well. What I am trying to say and the immense superiority of players who can get the strongest items in the game illegally. The term donation is used wrong, ok, the fact remains the same. Unfortunately I found out about players who are in billionaire broken rules they are still there to dominate the server categories on top. I play the right way so it annoys me so much. Not intend to be the stronger because I buy items in l2 store, but with the money I spend each month would follow the example of the richest people in the game server. As I said earlier in another post. The users of the bot could profit from this event, I was playing correctly throughout the next year be able to get near the adena and equipment they have. Ban some bots not solve the problem each one banished two others are created without any effort. Actually I'll be here waiting maybe someday the game be more correct, but will not know how far my patience. The fun ends when all our efforts seem to be in vain.
i dont like bots at all, neither their way to 'get' things but as a lot of times was said, you cant stop those people, even with ban, they'll get new chars and all will start again. so i just started to think that the best thing you can do for yourself, before get mad as you did, is enjoy the game.
what i mean is this: i dont care in how much i'll be 99, i dont care in how much i'll get gear, I play with my friends, I have fun with them, and all I got (jewels, gear, lvls etc) I got with MY hands.
They are 99 full geared ok, prolly weapon +16, ok. When you'll be 99 geared too, you can be 'proud of yourself', cos you worked on it and you got it.
i know is hard to have fun for this sometimes, but for me worked well, they can have all they want, still they are not able to get anything w/o use a program, so i dont envy them at all
i dont like bots at all, neither their way to 'get' things but as a lot of times was said, you cant stop those people, even with ban, they'll get new chars and all will start again. so i just started to think that the best thing you can do for yourself, before get mad as you did, is enjoy the game.
what i mean is this: i dont care in how much i'll be 99, i dont care in how much i'll get gear, I play with my friends, I have fun with them, and all I got (jewels, gear, lvls etc) I got with MY hands.
They are 99 full geared ok, prolly weapon +16, ok. When you'll be 99 geared too, you can be 'proud of yourself', cos you worked on it and you got it.
i know is hard to have fun for this sometimes, but for me worked well, they can have all they want, still they are not able to get anything w/o use a program, so i dont envy them at all
If they kept hiding on their little Cata holes it wouldn't be so bothersome, but join the lack of areass with the free fact of botting and you got problems hunting urself.
Some of the top players just have more time and resources than you do. There's nothing you can do against that part. Cheaters will always be in any online game. Just log on,do stuff and have fun and don't worry about being the top player on the server. You can be a good player without notifying the entire server about it.
Ok, do not think I expressed myself very well. What I am trying to say and the immense superiority of players who can get the strongest items in the game illegally. The term donation is used wrong, ok, the fact remains the same. Unfortunately I found out about players who are in billionaire broken rules they are still there to dominate the server categories on top. I play the right way so it annoys me so much. Not intend to be the stronger because I buy items in l2 store, but with the money I spend each month would follow the example of the richest people in the game server. As I said earlier in another post. The users of the bot could profit from this event, I was playing correctly throughout the next year be able to get near the adena and equipment they have. Ban some bots not solve the problem each one banished two others are created without any effort. Actually I'll be here waiting maybe someday the game be more correct, but will not know how far my patience. The fun ends when all our efforts seem to be in vain.
People will go through any and every means when it comes down to it to "be on top" in a competitive game... If you are buying nc coins with the illusion that they will give you an advantage against people who have taken the fun out of l2 just to win, you might have been mis-led.
It seems that most of your frustration is out of jealousy that they are "better" than you and the way "they" achieved this is by illegal means. By putting others that are even legit in the same category (ie "top clans")
There are cheaters, exploiters, scammers, sea-monsters, rmt-ers, nc coin spenders... all kinds of people trying to get ahead and be number 1.
You have 2 options.
1. Play to win
2. Play for fun
MY ADVICE: HAVE FUN IN L2 YOUR NEVER GOING TO BE THE BEST, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE BETTER THAN YOU, MORE EQUIPPED, MORE OVERPOWERED, OMG POSSIBLY EVEN MORE SKILLED..... HAVE FUN ITS A GAME!
In almost all online games, donation = purchase of items.
Yes we know this,but private servers take "donations" because they can't legally charge a subscription fee. By labeling it as a "donation" that's how they get away with it. Some private servers give items based on the amount "donated". Private servers cannot legally collect fees or sell anything or it's copyright infringement.
Play for fun, sure. But you gotta notice those 3 or 4 lvl 1 elves standing somewhere around the gatekeeper shouting every 10 secs that they will sell you 100 mln adena for 10 bucks and that's just sad.
Play for fun, sure. But you gotta notice those 3 or 4 lvl 1 elves standing somewhere around the gatekeeper shouting every 10 secs that they will sell you 100 mln adena for 10 bucks and that's just sad.
Please forgive me, I'm such a tool. Then they are 20 lvl elves, which completely changes the point of my post.
well if you're going to whine then you probably should have the facts straight. Either block them or turn shout off and view it in another chat tab if you want it.
well if you're going to whine then you probably should have the facts straight. Either block them or turn shout off and view it in another chat tab if you want it.
Yes, exactly the problem is that they appear in my chat! And pointing out everything wrong with the game and cheaters is ofc whining.
Yes, exactly the problem is that they appear in my chat! And pointing out everything wrong with the game and cheaters is ofc whining.
So set your chat up so that you don't see the orange shout. Go into the chat options ( the little icon beside the text box) and set up your chat tabs. Simple fix to an annoying problem. You can set your other tabs like clan,party,alliance to show all chats except the orange shout and leave general for orange shouts.
Play for fun, sure. But you gotta notice those 3 or 4 lvl 1 elves standing somewhere around the gatekeeper shouting every 10 secs that they will sell you 100 mln adena for 10 bucks and that's just sad.
You know, it's not because someone is better than you than he is cheating to be better.
I will took mine example. I usually play 5 hours / day (the evening until 1am). Few months ago I was solo, I was able to farm Kartia / SoA with randoms, get some stones, and resell them
Since last month I joined the start of a CP. My ressources rocketed, and all players in the constant got some cash. I played the same amount of time, just with more efficiency
I play only 5 hours / day. I know by experience than if I play 10hours / day I will rocks on other subjetcs too : more xp, more adena, more anything. Still without program.
Get it ? Others people will be better because they can play more a
You know, it's not because someone is better than you than he is cheating to be better.
I will took mine example. I usually play 5 hours / day (the evening until 1am). Few months ago I was solo, I was able to farm Kartia / SoA with randoms, get some stones, and resell them
Since last month I joined the start of a CP. My ressources rocketed, and all players in the constant got some cash. I played the same amount of time, just with more efficiency
I play only 5 hours / day. I know by experience than if I play 10hours / day I will rocks on other subjetcs too : more xp, more adena, more anything. Still without program.
Get it ? Others people will be better because they can play more a
Yup if you have the time and parties this will help you gain more. If you're soloing a lot it won't be as fruitful, you'll have to be creative and farm more which I do. The profits aren't massive,but 3-4 mil per sale isn't horrid.
don't wanna flame or something , but i find it amusing you vets have zero tolerance for the f2p newcomers ( all of them of course comming from private servers) and very tolerant about ncsoft and the antibot policy they have( as in : none);
i mean : block the rmt advertiser ? lol ,wthell is this ? the main issue is that even if ncsoft does ban bots they do that at a very very low rate , i didn't buied any nccoins so far and i take the game as it is ,trying to have fun in those 2-3 hours i play daily, but i'll be prety ****** if i do ;
i was in aden giving buffs sometime in april or may ( bartz server) and one player ,wont say the name ( he also played on someone else's account wich in fact was even a hero that month ) and lately become himself a hero , and this guy shifted his adena in shout , it was something like over 20 billions adena , or even more, now i don't see how someone could posibly gather that amount of money plaing legit.
I find it amusing you vets have zero tolerance for the f2p newcomers ( all of them of course comming from private servers) and very tolerant about ncsoft and the antibot policy they have( as in : none);
Don't know who you are judging all of this by, but I think your incorrect in your assumptions generally speaking...
I am a vet player myself, and I help free 2 play kids out all the time. What vet players don't have any tolerance for, is free to play kids that have no patience to learn, and want to be hand-fed everything...
Vet players aren't as outspoken about the bot policy either for 1 reason...
WE ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT IT! NOTHING HAS CHANGED AFTER 6+ YEARS OF PLAYING L2, WE WANT PEOPLE TO STOP QQING AND JUST ENJOY THE GAME.
There is no way currently to ban 100% of the bots, we learned to deal with it a long time ago, now it's the new kids turn to do the same.
Don't know who you are judging all of this by, but I think your incorrect in your assumptions generally speaking...
I am a vet player myself, and I help free 2 play kids out all the time. What vet players don't have any tolerance for, is free to play kids that have no patience to learn, and want to be hand-fed everything...
Vet players aren't as outspoken about the bot policy either for 1 reason...
WE ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT IT! NOTHING HAS CHANGED AFTER 6+ YEARS OF PLAYING L2, WE WANT PEOPLE TO STOP QQING AND JUST ENJOY THE GAME.
There is no way currently to ban 100% of the bots, we learned to deal with it a long time ago, now it's the new kids turn to do the same.
I couldn't have said it better.
We do tolerate new comers,but private server people have failed to understand retail and how it works. It's tiresome explaining the same thing a million times. I find private server players (not all) rude,entitled,inconsiderate and unable to take advice that they asked for and just resolve to insults and profanity because they didn't hear what they wanted to. My answer has always been simple. You are not obligated to play,you are not paying to play and you certainly can quit if you aren't happy.
well , let's just say i don't tolerate the way you tolerate newcomers , if someone come here acting noobish doesn't necesary mean he's from a private server , maybe he is new to l2 and started playing since free2play, there are plenty ppl coming from private's and are in big clans or formed entire clans themselvs ( i know a few who even became heroes ) , i'm not gonna start a debate who's the better server , but in any case they didn't played tetris or solitaire on those private servers ;
The fun ends when all our efforts seem to be in vain.
Why is this always the battle cry of these topics? Please name a single game that is fair in real life or virtual, you can't. The rich have an advantage over the poor, the smart folks will always take advantage of the uneducated, those tall look down on those "height challenged".
Regarding this new post, please understand the following:
Purchase amounts, history, and choice do not guarantee a player will necessary "win the game." As explained in previous posts, the stores are available primarily as an source of fun items to enhance gameplay, and as an alternative approach to gameplay according to your personal playstyle and availability.
It is possible to be a "dominant player/clan" through legitimate methods.
Cool story bro.
I couldn't have said it better.
We do tolerate new comers,but private server people have failed to understand retail and how it works.
You are wrong, we did understand.
For retail server people is normal bot for xp or use script for pvp, but for private server people it's dumb and ******ed.
For sure you are the one that know **** about retail and private.
First I'm not a "bro" I'm female. Second I've been a GM on a private server,played private servers and played retail. So yup I know all the Sh-t about it kthxbuhbye!
First I'm not a "bro" I'm female. Second I've been a GM on a private server,played private servers and played retail. So yup I know all the Sh-t about it kthxbuhbye!
nuff said, dunno why I'm still wasting my time arguing with you.
The bots will always be higher than you, they will have more of everything and won't care if you have bought the whole L2Store.The only difference is that you don't risk your account, they are (this is questionable to some extent)
To the OP: You are not buying the server, and if you dont pay, there are 1000 more that will be doing it, you are just buying a momentary relief, like a pack of smokes or a whisky on the rocks.
Dont beat yourself over too much, there will always be someone better than you, even if you are 99/99/80/80 with -$1000 or more USD's down the drain. You just have to be relieved that you have nothing to be afraid of if, for some reason, they decide to do a "midnight bot raid" on the server.