Server Maintenance - 8 - 22 - 2012

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All game servers and the L2 Galleria will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, August 22, 2012, at 5am PDT / 7am CDT / 8am EDT / 12pm UTC/GMT (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Lineage+II+Weekly+Mainteannce&iso=20120822T05&p1=234). Estimated downtime is approximately 4 hours.

With this maintenance:


The server time for Chronos switches back to GMT-2.
New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.
The Summer Warfare (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/summer-warfare.php) events continue! Going on now is the Battle of Darkness: participate in the Retrieve the Stolen Taxes Campaign during the event period. Check the event page (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/summer-warfare.php#Battle-of-Darkness) for the campaign schedule and reward details.
The L2 Galleria and L2 Store get a store update! Check the item details page (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/store-promos/august-store-update-new-item-details.php) for new store items. When this maintenance begins, all 7-day/30-day cosmetic items (hair accessories, mounts, and agathions) as well as 3-hour/5-hour/10-hour Runes will cease to be available for purchase.
When this maintenance begins, all 7-day/30-day cosmetic items (hair accessories, mounts, and agathions) as well as 3-hour/5-hour/10-hour Runes will cease to be available for purchase.


Well let this be an end to temporary cosmetic items. I like them,but only if they are permanent!

pssst Uniform hat *nudge nudge*
Well let this be an end to temporary cosmetic items. I like them,but only if they are permanent!

pssst Uniform hat *nudge nudge*
I know I know http://i50.tinypic.com/242vpxc.gif
can you explain me the main reason of removing xp boosts with lower time? do you think people are exping 7 days non stop?
With this maintenance:


New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.



Thank you! Hope it works out ^^
can you explain me the main reason of removing xp boosts with lower time? do you think people are exping 7 days non stop?
It's part of a larger streamlining process of the store and we are removing items that are not popular.
its not fair ;/ u guys remove it meanwhile i know many ppl who were buying them including me for 3h xp parties
New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.


That Good, any specification? Whats are the new rules?


3-hour/5-hour/10-hour Runes will cease to be available for purchase.


That Bad. I use the Rune 200% Exp 1 time at week, leveling any of my character from lvl 80 to 85.

Wheen i have full vit, 1 rune 200% 3 hs = 1 level up. Example, Last night, my Mastro go from lvl 82.1 to 83.5 in 2 hs. But i never buy 7 days runes...
That Good, any specification? Whats are the new rules?



That Bad. I use the Rune 200% Exp 1 time at week, leveling any of my character from lvl 80 to 85.

Wheen i have full vit, 1 rune 200% 3 hs = 1 level up. Example, Last night, my Mastro go from lvl 82.1 to 83.5 in 2 hs. But i never buy 7 days runes...
The 1-Hour Runes will still be available.
The 1-Hour Runes will still be available.

They are more expensive per hour than all but the 7-day ones.

200% @ 1 hour - 200 coin
200% @ 3 hour - 280 coin
200% @ 5 hour - 440 coin

Yeah, it's obvious why you're changing this.
I realize it's probably too late to change anything now, but I have to tell you that removing the 5 hour option is a disappointment. I used the 7 day until 99, but I have no plans to buy it for my sub (since I won't grind that one as often); however, I was going to buy 5 hour runes for the times I xp my sub. They were the cost of two 1 hour runes, so they made sense. I doubt I'll buy any runes now and instead will just play "truly free" with my sub.

tldr: You're making a mistake removing those runes
tldr for three sentences that take about 15 seconds to read? You are spoiling them....
No wonder noone is able to read a normal-length well written post nowadays ^^

Concerning the new chat restrictions, I hope they will be SEVERE. If you are looking for a group or want to sell something, it is enough to shout it about once a minute - once. Most people have been making annoying macros to spam their message 4-5 times in a row, I really hope those will get silenced. Shout whatever you want ONCE ffs.
New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.

Crossing my fingers :D
New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.


Curious, because bots are not affected by client limitation about spamming in chat channels.
Not that you guys need more confirmation of our general discontentment in the runes disappearing, but...

I believe the longest-time rune I've bought was a 3-day. I simply can't play every day (even less now that school has started again). Also, it's a good value to see the 'savings' you get when buying 3-5 hour runes vs. 1 hour ones -- $2.50/hour is not cool, and I definitely won't be buying week-long ones, unless you are slashing prices while 'consolidating' your offerings...

As far as the 7-day/30-day cosmetics, I agree... To me, it's not worth it to only have a hat for a week, unless you're getting a nice skill from it. Even still, the short skill durations, coupled with long reuse times, likely discourage many from buying those as well.
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~Rj
=)
Curious, because bots are not affected by client limitation about spamming in chat channels.
Smells like a placebo solution to me :rolleyes:
Please implement either a PA account with 2x XP (to have same rates as in Korea) or make the XP rune time no counting the logged out time... Seriously, a XP rune that make everyone xp x2 during the month, for twice the old monthly fee would have big success. Look what your European competitor is doing.
I agree... Time-limited items should not tick down while logged off... kinda punishes those who are busy.

Since time is time, why does it matter WHEN we use the item we bought, if you get the money for it either way?
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~Rj
=)
Yes, and I'm sure i'm not the only who not buy XP items -AT ALL- because of this...
Yes, and I'm sure i'm not the only who not buy XP items -AT ALL- because of this...
+1
I would definitely buy XP items when the time bought is true gametime. I'm a very irregular player :(
+1
I would definitely buy XP items when the time bought is true gametime. I'm a very irregular player :(

+1 ... I wish the right eyes would see this. :cool:
I agree... Time-limited items should not tick down while logged off... kinda punishes those who are busy.

Since time is time, why does it matter WHEN we use the item we bought, if you get the money for it either way?
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~Rj
=)

+1
Same to me , many times happened to activate runeXp and after 30 minutes log out because some personal problems and when i log in again after hours i lost that rune . Make it time to go down only when i am on in game and after i will start to buy again runexp.
+1
Same to me , many times happened to activate runeXp and after 30 minutes log out because some personal problems and when i log in again after hours i lost that rune . Make it time to go down only when i am on in game and after i will start to buy again runexp.

In this case rune xp price would increase at least for 7day.
Rune not wasting when player not in game - very nice idea, but will never happen imo.
Since GoD started I bought just 7day runes, because it's best for active player, but last months I use just 5hrs. Even for Istina or EG boss better 5hr for $2 - you can go do daily etc. with +50% xp bonus. Removing 5hrs rune - big mistake and I don't believe that ppl buy 1hr runes more often then 5hr one. Ofc if 1hr rune will be cost 40-45 coins, i'll buy them, but not for $1 for item wich so fast expired, I don't say about disconects/server crashes etc.
Nice, I hope someday you put some event drops on normal mobs. I want to do my subclass and can't find a single Unbind Scroll.
Just curious when the soul shot bug for summoners who unsummon and resummon pets have to deactivate and reactivate their soul shots will be fixed. It used to be when you unsummoned your pets your soul shots would automatically deactivate... not any longer.
New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.

What restriction?
Just curious when the soul shot bug for summoners who unsummon and resummon pets have to deactivate and reactivate their soul shots will be fixed. It used to be when you unsummoned your pets your soul shots would automatically deactivate... not any longer.

Beast shots are bugged since GOD (they didn't work when all your summons were dead and you started to summon new ones while corpses were on the ground unless you deactivate and reactivate them) and now are even more bugged, so i wouldn't expect a fix soon :(
New chat restrictions ? That means that we could be chat banned for spamming party/clan/ally chats ? Or that we can't use those 3 chats while chat banned ?
New chat restrictions ? That means that we could be chat banned for spamming party/clan/ally chats ? Or that we can't use those 3 chats while chat banned ?

hopefully its server side restrictions not dumb client side protection which is useless
The server time for Chronos switches back to GMT-2

What was it set at? I thought it was supposed to be that...
What was it set at? I thought it was supposed to be that...
GMT after the last emergency maintenance.
i strongly believe that the only reason the 3/5/10's where so unpopular is because they wouldn't stop ticking when you had to log out (baby emergency, flames out of computer, power outages and whatever other excuses we have for life). let's face it: they tried to boost the sales by letting the items expire and it backfired by low purchases and taking up shop space.
so maybe instead of removing those from the shop it might have been better to being able to stop the timers by logging out and turn these into an actually good deal. this also got the advantage of controlling server traffic a bit better.

greetings
FM

PS: to be honest, i am more the 2hrs at a time XP kinda guy and would have loved to see 2hrs maintenance/runes added at some point. i also miss the 30 minutes maintenance pots, i used to buy them en mass for kartia and now pop instead the cheap 40cents pots and use them when the boss pops up.
now pop instead the cheap 40cents pots and use them when the boss pops up.

Lol i do the same (pop on stage 3 of last room). :D
They are more expensive per hour than all but the 7-day ones.

200% @ 1 hour - 200 coin
200% @ 3 hour - 280 coin
200% @ 5 hour - 440 coin

Yeah, it's obvious why you're changing this.



I'm confused. Is NCSOFT trying to play on peoples addictions... or offering a product that enhances fun?

To me, it makes sense that if you offer products to enhance someones fun in a game then they will stay happy and continue purchasing your items, which will increase your revenue.

I can only see you alienating people with these changes.
New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.


Finally a solution to the issue that should have been on highest on TODO list and taken care of way earlier.
But yet this still wont irradicate the RMT shouters, because they will just adapt for the new restriction, and we will still see their messages (which even if 1 per minute they still cause me headaches! not to mention most players have maxed the blacklist as-well).
There should also be added chat filtering system that auto kick players that attempt to include certain quotes in their chat such as "www.mmo" and "w w w ." "www.LOLA" etc...
It's part of a larger streamlining process of the store and we are removing items that are not popular.

I recommend doing all items from l2store tradable. And will not be unpopular items. Ncwest is the only company with micropayments where items have not tradable.
Smells like a placebo solution to me :rolleyes:
Idiots are spamming clan advertisements now. It is really annoying.
There will never be any chat restrictions for BOTS!
Sace can u confirm :

Runes 200% in feature tab dont have restriction level???
Sace can u confirm :

Runes 200% in feature tab dont have restriction level???

+1, We can use past 86? ^^
Sace can u confirm :

Runes 200% in feature tab dont have restriction level???
There are no level restrictions on the new Runes of XP.
So, I tried the new spam filter.

I have a macro I spam for trading (WTS ... WTB ....)

I spam it 3 times (quickly 3 times on the button) , I got instant d/c

Ok the bad part : it happens in party chat, in clan chat and in ally chat. Harder to spam macro with details about VT config, server config & so on

And it will be funny during pvp. You loose ? Spam macro to avoid getting killed. You spam "Assit me on %target" on party chat ? Same, you got DC.

I admit it's a solution, it is just not the best, and it has serious downside. The main being that it affects non public chat

Edit : Ok, after some spam with one sec delay, I got a message blocking me. However if I continue to press this key, I got d/c

Juji, did you try this set up / config for spam filter ? Do you have any advice to avoid being constantly d/c by it especially when using macro ? >.>
So, I tried the new spam filter.

I have a macro I spam for trading (WTS ... WTB ....)

I spam it 3 times (quickly 3 times on the button) , I got instant d/c

Ok the bad part : it happens in party chat, in clan chat and in ally chat. Harder to spam macro with details about VT config, server config & so on

And it will be funny during pvp. You loose ? Spam macro to avoid getting killed. You spam "Assit me on %target" on party chat ? Same, you got DC.

I admit it's a solution, it is just not the best, and it has serious downside. The main being that it affects non public chat

Ouch. That is NOT good.

So Laby, it disconnected you even when you were spamming while in "combat"?
I just tested in aden. I was hitting the AH npc. I spammed the macro in clan chat. Got d/c
My question is why such a sick price for the rune you are giving 200% for 30 days for this price you have on innova EU PA for 12 months GF

One more question that NCwest know that this spam is without a Client?

2 fail i one day?
So, I tried the new spam filter.

I have a macro I spam for trading (WTS ... WTB ....)

I spam it 3 times (quickly 3 times on the button) , I got instant d/c

Ok the bad part : it happens in party chat, in clan chat and in ally chat. Harder to spam macro with details about VT config, server config & so on

And it will be funny during pvp. You loose ? Spam macro to avoid getting killed. You spam "Assit me on %target" on party chat ? Same, you got DC.

I admit it's a solution, it is just not the best, and it has serious downside. The main being that it affects non public chat

Edit : Ok, after some spam with one sec delay, I got a message blocking me. However if I continue to press this key, I got d/c

Juji, did you try this set up / config for spam filter ? Do you have any advice to avoid being constantly d/c by it especially when using macro ? >.>
The new chat restriction is for server side. If you spam a chat macro many times in 1 second it will disconnect you from the server. Regular skills and such are not affected by the chat ban of course.
will the new XP runes 100% and 200% stack when used combined aka gives the user 300% XP boost ?
The new chat restriction is for server side. If you spam a chat macro many times in 1 second it will disconnect you from the server. Regular skills and such are not affected by the chat ban of course.

Ok, thanks for the message.
will the new XP runes 100% and 200% stack when used combined aka gives the user 300% XP boost ?
No they will not.
So I can force log off by just spamming text? haha
The toon is instant removed from the world or stays for a while?
Anyway, thank you for deleting this spammer problem :D
so i can force log off by just spamming text? Haha
the toon is instant removed from the world or stays for a while?

bsoe 2.0
Holy ma-schiz-nitz! The appearance stones are back. And so soon.

I see the Valkyrie Circlet made a reappearance as well.

I also see that a bunch of new cosmetic items are available. Pretty neato, except there's one problem.

Where's the Butterfly Hairpin? I wants!
lol 16k ncoins for 30 day 200% xp. At 8k I would probably considered but 16k seriously... The 100% is 8k ncoins, 80 euros. Innova do it for 15 euros...
well, does not work with 1-piece body armor.

so, it useless.

i really want them back, but with full work, if i cant use on draconic, it is useless for me.
Do you not want people buying the runes lol jesus
lol 16k ncoins for 30 day 200% xp. At 8k I would probably considered but 16k seriously... The 100% is 8k ncoins, 80 euros. Innova do it for 15 euros...


So what's the price for the 7 day 200%? Is it still 2000 NCCoin?


WWW
The new chat restriction is for server side. If you spam a chat macro many times in 1 second it will disconnect you from the server. Regular skills and such are not affected by the chat ban of course.

SERIOUSLY?????? Hello, so now i cant spam a macro to my pt members? to assist me? I cant spam a ventrilo macro in clan chat? or even a time to regroup for siege?

Did u really need to punish real players because the botters were spamming?
Imho, if u cant or dont want to find an EFFECTIVE way to get rid of the spammers, just say so, but dont screw my gameplay.

Edit: BTW 3 its not MANY times. And bots can still do 3 times with 6 different chars and be just as annoying.
SERIOUSLY?????? Hello, so now i cant spam a macro to my pt members? to assist me? I cant spam a ventrilo macro in clan chat? or even a time to regroup for siege?

Did u really need to punish real players because the botters were spamming?
Imho, if u cant or dont want to find an EFFECTIVE way to get rid of the spammers, just say so, but dont screw my gameplay.

Edit: BTW 3 its not MANY times. And bots can still do 3 times with 6 different chars and be just as annoying.

Well this could be updated with filter, that affect those who spam at shout, trade, general chats.
SERIOUSLY?????? Hello, so now i cant spam a macro to my pt members? to assist me? I cant spam a ventrilo macro in clan chat? or even a time to regroup for siege?

Did u really need to punish real players because the botters were spamming?
Imho, if u cant or dont want to find an EFFECTIVE way to get rid of the spammers, just say so, but dont screw my gameplay.

Edit: BTW 3 its not MANY times. And bots can still do 3 times with 6 different chars and be just as annoying.

LMAO... learn to roll with the changes and you will be perceived as an adult.
Rune of XP 50% 7 days: 1000 NCoins
Rune of XP 50% 30 days: 4000 NCoins

1 month = ~4 weeks. I think your price of the 30 days XP rune should be around 3000 NCoins because people would rather buy 4x 7 days one for convenience. When you buy the longer timed items, you are taking a risk and committed to it. Gj NCSoft marketing department.
Well this could be updated with filter, that affect those who spam at shout, trade, general chats.

Ofc it can, but this could have also been tought / tested before hand, and they didnt.
Also, the same goes for the 30 days 200% XP rune. $200 is just a ridiculous amount of money. I have bought a lot of items from L2 Store since GoD release, but I won't buy this stupidly-priced crap.

Words from a true customer.
Re: Chat spam D/C:
As a software developer, I have to ask NC developers, WTF were you thinking? Honestly, did you guys have a spit-balling session and go with the worst idea anyone could think of?
Also, the same goes for the 30 days 200% XP rune. $200 is just a ridiculous amount of money. I have bought a lot of items from L2 Store since GoD release, but I won't buy this stupidly-priced crap.

Words from a true customer.

Agreed the amount I haven spent is significant but I wont be paying almost the entire pre god subscription fee for a 30 day rune.
Re: Chat spam D/C:
As a software developer, I have to ask NC developers, WTF were you thinking? Honestly, did you guys have a spit-balling session and go with the worst idea anyone could think of?

Yeah, I think they are a bunch of very alternatively gifted individuals. http://www.guildportal.com/Cargo/System/Assets/Emotes/Default/26.gif
Tee hee hee... thx
I love it!! I would have loved to be a fly on the aden seller's wall today!! I can see them in my head now pounding on their keyboards to reconnect to get back to spam selling!! LOVE IT!! HAHAHA.
I'm actually thinking of 'framing' today, so I can tell stories to my grandchildren about ncsoft / lineage 2 :P

Big thumbs up NCSoft not only have you totally screwed the store, to the extent that I daresay may cost you a number of potential / existing customers (I myself preferred the 200% 3hr runes as do I think lots of others) but.. you also managed to completely ruin the ingame chat system.. and why ? go have a look in goddard right now ... no change to the spam we have seen in the last few weeks - good game :(
200 USD for a rune, wow. First you sell pvp power, now trying to milk ppl with the dream of 99. And you take the reasonably priced stuff out of the store. I've pretty much had it with the practices of late of this company. I just filed a complaint with the Office of the Attorney General for NYS over your deceptive practices involving the shirts and what appears to be unlicensed online gambling with NCSoft controlling the rates of success to further your sales, and refusing disclose those rates. Have fun answering the complaint.
I love it!! I would have loved to be a fly on the aden seller's wall today!! I can see them in my head now pounding on their keyboards to reconnect to get back to spam selling!! LOVE IT!! HAHAHA.
They're not even doing it. But by keeping getting disconnected, sooner or later they'll think the effort of maintaining the bots will not equate the reward.
$200 IS expensive for a month long rune,but let's think about how much time do you really have to get the most use out of this? Between work,other activities or kids I would say popping $200 on a rune that ticks down even when you don't play is rather foolish.

Anything can happen during that month that might prevent you from logging in and playing. Anyone with some sense and a life should know that item isn't for you. There are people out there spending FAR more than that on elemental shirts, go back and read that thread and you'll see. This is no different.

ETA: JUJI UNIFORM HAT!!! Sucks it's white,but I can work with that..yes..yes I can.
Hum, spammers back in Aden on Naia >.>
Hum, spammers back in Aden on Naia >.>
Lol, that didn't take long.
Lol, that didn't take long.

They on magmeld doing it in Giran and I'm fairly sure in every other town
$200 IS expensive for a month long rune,but let's think about how much time do you really have to get the most use out of this? Between work,other activities or kids I would say popping $200 on a rune that ticks down even when you don't play is rather foolish.

Anything can happen during that month that might prevent you from logging in and playing. Anyone with some sense and a life should know that item isn't for you. There are people out there spending FAR more than that on elemental shirts, go back and read that thread and you'll see. This is no different.

ETA: JUJI UNIFORM HAT!!! Sucks it's white,but I can work with that..yes..yes I can.

Agreed. Including the uniform hat, though I'll probably just admire it on other characters.

Maybe make the runes an agathon instead where you can summon and return. I'm sure this is just an experiment to see how much money they make. People with "dreams of 99" buying all the stacking runes and vitality and vitality expanding scrolls and dropping 1k/month. I mean if you play that much, what else could you be spending your money on? Traveling, restaurants, bar tab; or purchasing nonperishable food items in bulk online and wearing pajamas 24/7?
Agreed. Including the uniform hat, though I'll probably just admire it on other characters.

I'm not totally sure if I want cause it's white,but then again a DE can play up a naughty captain or a dirty cop xD I'm going to need a closet for all my outfits
They on magmeld doing it in Giran and I'm fairly sure in every other town
Goddard as well, only now they altered their timers so they send one massive spam... waits for the ban timer to go by and then spam again... repeat...

I did not think NC would be able to do anything about the spamming. Oh well, just do what I always do and disable by chats when in town. :D
Goddard as well, only now they altered their timers so they send one massive spam... waits for the ban timer to go by and then spam again... repeat...

I did not think NC would be able to do anything about the spamming. Oh well, just do what I always do and disable by chats when in town. :D

Well it slowed them down at least. I think that was the intended goal.
Also, the same goes for the 30 days 200% XP rune. $200 is just a ridiculous amount of money. I have bought a lot of items from L2 Store since GoD release, but I won't buy this stupidly-priced crap.

Words from a true customer.


How much the users pay in USD to play Lineage 2 before the "Trully-free" F2P? I think "this" free is too expensive...

$200 is Realy too much for a simple EXP. Ty but not for me. A new Video Card or a extra LED screen or External 500GB HD is better than a 50% of my actual level.
First i would like to say that i play this game here since 2007 but i ve never felt the need or the urge to post on this forums .

Are you really serious ? 200 $ for a 30 days rune that ticks when you do not play ?

There are a lot of games out there and 200 $ can buy a lot of entertainment in other virtual worlds . I have also spent a lot of money since god but right now with shirts and runes is only a rip off is not entertainment is frustration .

As i can see the number of new players that join this game is very very small and most of them quit very soon after they hit 86 .

The truth is this game is almost dead and you must be really crazy to spend 200 $ for the pleasure to get 0.00002 % xp instead of 0.00001 % xp when you kill the same mob 5 trillion times .

Most of new players that came with f2p were smart enough to realize that is pointless and dumb to lose countless hours every day killing same mobs and doing the same dungeons every day for crap xp and crap drops most of the time so they do not play anymore .

A 2 x xp and a 2 x drop rate at let s say 20 $ per month would be a lot better and more ppl would buy that .

But probably ncsoft is aware of the fact that every server would have like 30 ppl willing to spend 200 $ for a 30 days rune and that would make 6000 usd but not every server has 300 ppl willing to pay 20 $ per month to make the same 6000 usd . And the main problem is that there are no players that will join the game in the future willing to pay this 20 $ per month , so when ppl that play now get to 99 on main and dual who would buy runes anymore ? No new players no future sales .

No sales means that server will close very soon after most of the spenders that play NOW will hit 99 on main and dual and will stop spending so all effort and countless hours of life lost killing same mobs all over and cash spent will be useless .

So i would say that $ 200 can bring you a lot more entertainment in terms of games and bring it to you when you want . l2 is not the only game in town .

Is important to notice that this $ 200 runes do not bring you FUN . You pay 200 $ and you have to kill same boring mobs all over again and do same boring kartia fortuna spezion istina etc all over and over again . And you have to do more of this boring activity cos you know you have runes and they tick away ..

I do not see any point or any FUN in buying this runes .
Okay all you people raging about the $200 30-day rune it's not going to change the fact it's there or the price. There are people that will and can buy this. Some people have the means plain and simple. $200 is a sneeze for some people.
I can easy buy this runes but this does not change the fact that is a total rip off . l2 is a game , a game is meant to be fun . I will not buy this runes not because i do not afford but because is a rip off and they bring zero fun . As long as you have the runes you need to focus on grind and only grind in game .

Btw i m very sure that all rich ppl in the world have nothing better and more fun to do in life then play l2 and grind like crazy every day for 6 , 7 hours .
I can easy buy this runes but this does not change the fact that is a total rip off . l2 is a game , a game is meant to be fun . I will not buy this runes not because i do not afford but because is a rip off and they bring zero fun . As long as you have the runes you need to focus on grind and only grind in game .

Btw i m very sure that all rich ppl in the world have nothing better and more fun to do in life then play l2 and grind like crazy every day for 6 , 7 hours .



Wildpixie I think its fair to say you are preaching to the choir. Good post.
LMAO... learn to roll with the changes and you will be perceived as an adult.

So for u pretending that they didnt do anything wrong, and "rolling with the wrong changes" its the mature way to go. Sad too see "adults" like u :)
So for u pretending that they didnt do anything wrong, and "rolling with the wrong changes" its the mature way to go. Sad too see "adults" like u :)

That isn't what it meant. Dracha meant that if you can learn to roll with the changes like a a mature adult then you'll be seen as that and not a whiney child.
*Save the 200 $ and set up a bot insteed, is saver and cost you less* <--- sarcasm

Seriously, is everbody's own decision what he do with his money. Even if I don't understand if ppl spend 200$ for a xp rune, it means not that I have the right or intention to blame them for this. Noone is forced to buy this item.
And what do you think? That NC made this game because they wanted all us gaming *addicted* ppl happy? Nope, ofc they made it to earn money.
I'd like to buy it but $200 is way to pricey, $100 then MAYBE but even then it's pretty high...I gotta say NCSoft has gotten more money from me in 4 months then Blizzard did in 4 years :p ... Theres a couple things i've bought that I had regrets about but hey thats life, be your own judge...I enjoy the game and if theres a new hat or something that looks cool i may buy it. Even the runes, I may still buy a 7 day rune...just dont know
this ncwest atempt to fight bots by blocking the chat reminds me of an old joke : an airplain is flying above the ocean when sudenly the captain voice is heard in the speakers : dear pasengers ,looks like we gonna crash into the ocean , everybody please remain calm , we have life buoy's for everyone and make sure everyone gets body lotion from our stewardesses , it's against the sharks..
omg sharks! says one pasenger , so, the sharks won't eat us if we apply this body lotion?? no ,says one stewardess , sharks will eat us allright , but they won't like it at all , they might even puke after that ...

no bots -> no adena -> no spam
the part that cracks me up is about all those heroes "pro"-pvp's that are spending thousands and thousands into their accounts every year and think that this 30 day rune is a great idea.
also the botters probably don't care either since they are already xp'ing 24/7... so why the upset?
i know it's nothing for me...
the part that cracks me up is about all those heroes "pro"-pvp's that are spending thousands and thousands into their accounts every year and think that this 30 day rune is a great idea.
also the botters probably don't care either since they are already xp'ing 24/7... so why the upset?
i know it's nothing for me...

I'm a hero and posted already that it's a rip off. Why would 99 toons want to see a 200% rune in game? Think about that for a min. More importantly for me, I think we keep going in the direction of ncsoft trying to bleed every last cent from ppl and ******* up the game while doing doing so.
A 2 x xp and a 2 x drop rate at let s say 20 $ per month would be a lot better and more ppl would buy that .


it should be 10,00$ .. like the old monthly fee - even then, leveling 95+ would be slow as hell and mindless boring and with the latest (Tauti) changes you dont even have the pleasure to get a drop besides this new kind of "stem" - acc,weap and armor parts.

The shop items are way overpriced.
Rich ppl can just buy 99 lvl toon for 1k$ or near it, so what the sense pay 200$ per month and spend time to lvl toon... - no idea
A day after the changes, as a player, i'm a bit more happy with the spam problem. At least i can scroll up and read an ally shout now!:p
If i were a RMT, i would also be hapier i think! Those sellers with the insane spam looked rediculus before (as did NCsof also), but now they appear more frieldly and legit to the new players. Like an official adena trader or something.
I think removing the disconnect thing from party/clan/ally chat would notbe that difficult, cause it's really funny to be in the middle of pvp or raid and spam "my target %..." and get dc! It's the only spam i like tbh and would be a years habbit to get rid off! :p

For the runes marketing, i really liked the draco event 200% runes that were almost free! I thought, yea i'll taste how it is to level fast and later on, i'll buy some too. No i see that there is a second rase in shop items (there was another big raise some months ago), so i think i'll pass!

For the players complaining, be assured that the marketing departments can calculate the short term increase in profit of their commercial policies, so yea, if they put the prices that high, that means there are many ppl bying those stuff!

As a responsible customer, i like one thing, i buy it, i don't like it, i don't buy it. Simple as that! The feedback in numbers is far more important than the feedback in forum of ppl whinning! "i stop play" and "i stop buy" are the biggest cliches ever in forums!
Rich ppl can just buy 99 lvl toon for 1k$ or near it, so what the sense pay 200$ per month and spend time to lvl toon... - no idea

Hero on Naia, one month ago was selling his account on hero chat for far less than that. Was 99level with full gear and 10 billion adena, as he advertised, so i think the prices are much lower!

I write this cause i see the toon still playing (and for the rival clan), so i guess all that was legit...
I dont think that 200$ price of new 30-day 200% XP rune is adequate, because Innova RU/Innova EU on lineage 2 project suggest same service as 1-month premium account(which gives 200% XP rate) for 9$/12 euro.
Good job on text restrictions. I really like it!

For NCStore, I'll don't spend my money while the company did not conduct an effective action against bots and readjust the pvp for it to be done by humans.
For NCStore, I'll don't spend my money while the company did not conduct an effective action against bots and readjust the pvp for it to be done by humans.

Exactly the same for me. I did buy NCoin in the past. I had already decided not to buy anything anymore that I could not exchange between at least my characters on my main account.

But with the ridiculous botting situation currently, I absolutely refuse to spend ANY more money on this game, because I believe that I will not keep playing long-term if it does not change. Keep failing to ban the notorious botters with all their farming characters (I mean the PLAYERS that run multiple farmbots on seperate accounts and channel the rewards to their main) and you never see a dollar from me again.
Good job on text restrictions. I really like it!

For NCStore, I'll don't spend my money while the company did not conduct an effective action against bots and readjust the pvp for it to be done by humans.

i ll not ou i wont ^^.

ps. spend almost 4k nc coin with appearance stone yesterday, and still cant apply draco style, i really wanna know why they cant make it, to use draco 1 piece armor
it should be 10,00$ .. like the old monthly fee - even then, leveling 95+ would be slow as hell and mindless boring and with the latest (Tauti) changes you dont even have the pleasure to get a drop besides this new kind of "stem" - acc,weap and armor parts.

The shop items are way overpriced.

It was $14.99 a month not $10.00
whats new on update 1.1.2.9?
whats new on update 1.1.2.9?

Moar pay to win stuff basically.
Re: Chat spam D/C:
As a software developer, I have to ask NC developers, WTF were you thinking? Honestly, did you guys have a spit-balling session and go with the worst idea anyone could think of?
What, you don't like the new built-in BSOE? ;)
First i would like to say that i play this game here since 2007 but i ve never felt the need or the urge to post on this forums .

Are you really serious ? 200 $ for a 30 days rune that ticks when you do not play ?

There are a lot of games out there and 200 $ can buy a lot of entertainment in other virtual worlds . I have also spent a lot of money since god but right now with shirts and runes is only a rip off is not entertainment is frustration .

As i can see the number of new players that join this game is very very small and most of them quit very soon after they hit 86 .

The truth is this game is almost dead and you must be really crazy to spend 200 $ for the pleasure to get 0.00002 % xp instead of 0.00001 % xp when you kill the same mob 5 trillion times .

Most of new players that came with f2p were smart enough to realize that is pointless and dumb to lose countless hours every day killing same mobs and doing the same dungeons every day for crap xp and crap drops most of the time so they do not play anymore .

A 2 x xp and a 2 x drop rate at let s say 20 $ per month would be a lot better and more ppl would buy that .

But probably ncsoft is aware of the fact that every server would have like 30 ppl willing to spend 200 $ for a 30 days rune and that would make 6000 usd but not every server has 300 ppl willing to pay 20 $ per month to make the same 6000 usd . And the main problem is that there are no players that will join the game in the future willing to pay this 20 $ per month , so when ppl that play now get to 99 on main and dual who would buy runes anymore ? No new players no future sales .

No sales means that server will close very soon after most of the spenders that play NOW will hit 99 on main and dual and will stop spending so all effort and countless hours of life lost killing same mobs all over and cash spent will be useless .

So i would say that $ 200 can bring you a lot more entertainment in terms of games and bring it to you when you want . l2 is not the only game in town .

Is important to notice that this $ 200 runes do not bring you FUN . You pay 200 $ and you have to kill same boring mobs all over again and do same boring kartia fortuna spezion istina etc all over and over again . And you have to do more of this boring activity cos you know you have runes and they tick away ..

I do not see any point or any FUN in buying this runes .

IF you are correct, noone will buy the item and it will be removed from the L2 store.

Problem solving itself as we speak.
The patch seems to have solved the constant spamming in towns, still spammers but atleast now I can read the chat. nicely done.
The patch seems to have solved the constant spamming in towns, still spammers but atleast now I can read the chat. nicely done.

Indeed better than my general chat going all mental like it had rabies on drugs.
has anyone else been crashing after logging in or is just me??
has anyone else been crashing after logging in or is just me??

Mine started doing it too. I'd get in and then disconnect.
i see dam what are we suppose to do to fix it ha?
All game servers and the L2 Galleria will be down for maintenance on Wednesday, August 22, 2012, at 5am PDT / 7am CDT / 8am EDT / 12pm UTC/GMT (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Lineage+II+Weekly+Mainteannce&iso=20120822T05&p1=234). Estimated downtime is approximately 4 hours.

With this maintenance:


New chat restrictions have been implemented! Please refrain from spamming in all chat channels.



Thanks god you implemented new chat restrictions !
Can't imagine what would happen without !

Check giran and you will see the walls of text from 2 sites.

Stop saying that you fix something.
These sites log in with OOG client. I bet you can do something at least for this because the situation is annoying.
It's impossible to keep track of sell/buy shouts at major towns
The patch seems to have solved the constant spamming in towns, still spammers but atleast now I can read the chat. nicely done.

:D
It's actually worse now, spammers leave alot of white space so you can't see the toon name to block w/o scrolling up or enlarging the chat space.

I wonder if this fix also is causing the DC's on my dwarf shops in Giran. AFK a bit and get DC'ed?
It's actually worse now, spammers leave alot of white space so you can't see the toon name to block w/o scrolling up or enlarging the chat space.

I wonder if this fix also is causing the DC's on my dwarf shops in Giran. AFK a bit and get DC'ed?
Unfourtunatly there is no way for them to ever fix the problem with the RMT spammers because there are too many ways to get around the bandade system NC tries to implement. As for the DC's I do not know the cause because I am taking a break from L2 and moved to Guild Wars 2; no problems there and I really like the game considering I has reservations about it before.
Unfourtunatly there is no way for them to ever fix the problem with the RMT spammers because there are too many ways to get around the bandade system NC tries to implement. As for the DC's I do not know the cause because I am taking a break from L2 and moved to Guild Wars 2; no problems there and I really like the game considering I has reservations about it before.

Good for you for trying something new, I've been puttering with Aion this week unless I find something else.
Good for you for trying something new, I've been puttering with Aion this week unless I find something else.

Football season is just around the corner (next week is the start of the season!)
Football season is just around the corner (next week is the start of the season!)

lol I live in Green Bay,WI I can't forget football thanks to the Packer's stadium. I was reminded of that when the traffic was backed up all the way off the highway today with people coming in for the game.
Dear Judi, please remove these chat restrictions from party, clan and ally chats.
Do you really think there were adena selling spammers in those chats before? It's impossible to use macro in party, it's impossible to talk in clan/ally chat if you type with more than 2 fingers and want to tell something to your clan/allymate.
Dear Judi, please remove these chat restrictions from party, clan and ally chats.
Do you really think there were adena selling spammers in those chats before? It's impossible to use macro in party, it's impossible to talk in clan/ally chat if you type with more than 2 fingers and want to tell something to your clan/allymate.

Judi or as we spell it here Juji does not have any control over the game and how it functions. He only moderates this forum and acts as a go between us and NCsoft.
Thank you, 1Peri1, for your lovely explanation but Juji (Juji, i'm sorry for my mistake) talks to us - mortal people - on behalf of NCSoft, so I as well suppose he can if he wants ofc give NC staff our feedback. I realize that Juji doesn't do any server settings himself and I addressed him as a "go between" person only, not as a person that must do the fix with his own hands :P
And I do respect your registration date but mine doesn't look too fresh as well, I can decide for myself if my message can be heard here :)
And I do respect your registration date but mine doesn't look too fresh as well

You brought that up yourself. I did not throw it in your face. I don't even pay attention to the registration dates or post counts. So excuse me for treating you like everyone else who thinks Juji/Sace are tech support.
Hero on Naia, one month ago was selling his account on hero chat for far less than that. Was 99level with full gear and 10 billion adena, as he advertised, so i think the prices are much lower!

I write this cause i see the toon still playing (and for the rival clan), so i guess all that was legit...

i wonder if he already recalled it or is planning to in the near future hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha :p;):D