hello guys.i am going to make a siegel and was wondering what to choose.im between elf and d elf and i like them both very much.
i am asking because they have huge differences between their stats.whom do you think makes the best tank the more offencive d elf or the defencive elf.aditionally how good is the elf evasive racial?30 m and p evasion i dont really know how effective it is.
another factor i think is the dual class im gonna choose.i am between iss,whyn and tyrr.whom do you think have the best stats for those classes?
DE racial is not so useless in oly and pvp. Unlike pve where u rly dont need any racial skills tbh. And still canceling all agro on you when most of party is dead so u can bress healer in peace is more usefull then runnin faster :p
One situation of bres doesnt justify delf being better.
Run speed is better for 1vs1 in the long term if you plan to win by dmg, and keep close range is always the best for tank coz they win at close range. It's easier to stun targets on mass, and move in to push and agro.
5 seconds untargetable each 10 minutes wont save much ***... what counts is what you can do every time while you play the tank, not 1 time in 10 minutes really...
In 1on1 disaparation effect is just run away for 5 seconds, doesnt give much impact coz tankd dont have good dmg to begin with compared to other classes. On the other hand if you can catch oponent every single time =)...
Tanks have most hard time with summoners, but summoners have sucky movement, run speed is the best tool vs them when using tank so with elf you just shortened your chances to loose vs the hardest class. So the chances to win every class has just increased.
is the 12 str difference so huge as it looks?not only for a tank but also for the dual classes i mensioned.without the +13 out of combat run speed what is the difference between elf and d elf?
One situation of bres doesnt justify delf being better.
Run speed is better for 1vs1 in the long term if you plan to win by dmg, and keep close range is always the best for tank coz they win at close range. It's easier to stun targets on mass, and move in to push and agro.
5 seconds untargetable each 10 minutes wont save much ***... what counts is what you can do every time while you play the tank, not 1 time in 10 minutes really...
In 1on1 disaparation effect is just run away for 5 seconds, doesnt give much impact coz tankd dont have good dmg to begin with compared to other classes. On the other hand if you can catch oponent every single time =)...
Tanks have most hard time with summoners, but summoners have sucky movement, run speed is the best tool vs them when using tank so with elf you just shortened your chances to loose vs the hardest class. So the chances to win every class has just increased.
very nice justification.do you by any chance know whats the difference between elf and d elf speed?
Faster running doesnt really save you in the situations you think it could ... human isnt really fast either and i never felt a need to run faster yet :p You won't catch up on nukers / archer anyway if they deicide to run away, and u wont escape either.
Isn't the passive speed bonus of the light elves applied only while out of combat?
Yes, it is, just wanted to point that out also. In combat the speed increase has no effect. Was just checking it ingame cause i wasnt sure bout thatone.
Faster running doesnt really save you in the situations you think it could ... human isnt really fast either and i never felt a need to run faster yet :p You won't catch up on nukers / archer anyway if they deicide to run away, and u wont escape either.
If they're running away that means you are doing a good job...:D
I dunno the diference of run speed..Elves have higher base run speed (im excluding the passive racial).
Yes, it is, just wanted to point that out also. In combat the speed increase has no effect. Was just checking it ingame cause i wasnt sure bout thatone.
So then dude is pretty much talking out of his... :cool:
im a dark elf sigel and i can tell you right now im 94 and i'm more used to my char, and im starting to like it, but on the first levels(85,86,8....) i hated it so much, i would love have had the runspeed of light elves, on any pvp 1 vs 1 or not full party the enemys run from you and you have no way to catch it.. (tyrs, daggers, wizzards, healers run faster than a tank...) (now is the same, but my chain fail less and the stuns are better since tauti..)
the racials of DE are not good at all for the tank, but sometimes disparition can save ur ***... and have some other aplications too...
the poor str of elfs i dont know if it makes a big diference... i guess u get some less damage(not much really), skill mastery and ¿crits?(i was never sure if str increase the crit rate on skills, but some ppl say that)
on olympiads the only way to win against some classes is keep runing(and this not only for tanks... a little bored olys since god...) XD (so here runspeed of elfs works fine)
and dont forget elfs have now the same con as humans so elf tank have something like 2k more of hp than the dark elf... and some extra block rate(that sometimes is not really cool, coz when you block, the next hit of your toon is delayed by the animation of block, so... the more you block, less you hit...)