I think everybody's patiences has a limit, and i just reached mine
Sometimes i wonder how ppl does to hit lv 90, or 85, even how the hell do they
do to pass the tutorial part. Party after party with lagged tank that don't get the aggro
and left DD's and specially the Healer to die.. i think they forget that i's their jobs to keep
the healer alive since we depend of their healing to survive. I've even read some ridiculous tanks
saying that they die because of Wynn's fault WTF???, Tanks, going afk in places like Fortuna, Kartia or PoD
Tanks, dieing with 1 (one) group of mobs in SoA (Ub0g's dieing Level, if u know what i mean :p)
Do they know that they have an skill that's an AoE Aggro? (Superior Hate Aura) do they know that they have a chain
to drag the mobs that walks away into the group again?? (Chain Strike) , do they eve know they have Ultimate Defence or Protection of Faith to not die??!!:confused:
I'm starting to believe that the only skilled tank in this game is Adolf, yes, the Captain of Kartia solo...
it tooks hours to get a tank when creating a pt room, just to see them going afk...
I get to the conclusion that one of this days i'm going to knight my healer and tank SoA by myself.
I understand everybody gots lagg sometimes but come on!!! every single Sigel has lagg, in every single intance I go with??, the only thing they do well is their speech "i died because i lagged":eek:.
I know a couple of great tanks but i can count them with one hand, i'm just tired of this...
Pls ppl do something and stop boting! learn to use your class :cool:
I think everybody's patiences has a limit, and i just reached mine
Sometimes i wonder how ppl does to hit lv 90, or 85, even how the hell do they
do to pass the tutorial part. Party after party with lagged tank that don't get the aggro
and left DD's and specially the Healer to die.. i think they forget that i's their jobs to keep
the healer alive since we depend of their healing to survive. I've even read some ridiculous tanks
saying that they die because of Wynn's fault WTF???, Tanks, going afk in places like Fortuna, Kartia or PoD
Tanks, dieing with 1 (one) group of mobs in SoA (Ub0g's dieing Level, if u know what i mean :p)
Do they know that they have an skill that's an AoE Aggro? (Superior Hate Aura) do they know that they have a chain
to drag the mobs that walks away into the group again?? (Chain Strike) , do they eve know they have Ultimate Defence or Protection of Faith to not die??!!:confused:
I'm starting to believe that the only skilled tank in this game is Adolf, yes, the Captain of Kartia solo...
it tooks hours to get a tank when creating a pt room, just to see them going afk...
I get to the conclusion that one of this days i'm going to knight my healer and tank SoA by myself.
I understand everybody gots lagg sometimes but come on!!! every single Sigel has lagg, in every single intance I go with??, the only thing they do well is their speech "i died because i lagged":eek:.
I know a couple of great tanks but i can count them with one hand, i'm just tired of this...
Pls ppl do something and stop boting! learn to use your class :cool:
Random tanks are random tanks.
Good, or at least decent ones, are not looking for group from PT room.
I think they should give us an uber mass aggro skill combined with ud (lets say 10 sec +200% pdef mdef with 1 sec reuse) so we can play with one finger while watching movie instead of one full hand :cool:. Listen to the voice of people, bad tanks everywhere, pimp us!!!
Also srsly i wonder what healer you need to have to be forced to use ud (since you mentioned it) in kartia, fortuna or soa o.O. Last time i did have to was proly 2 weeks ago and only due to misclick...
Who played a tank we normally do not die like the others and we get used to this.
When we have more level, forget character needs less critical level and what they might escape 1 or 2 npc gives us the same thing but when we are used to being around people of higher level where it does not interest them.
If we speak about handless tank's.... during SoA.... 100x must use exile/mass exile as wynn.Ppls say don't use this....answer is simple - if tank can't protect healer,somebody else must do it...
Second law of healers' dynamics: If there is more, than one healer in party, all of them will be alt-tabbed, afk or watching a movie... just deal with it :P
Second law of healers' dynamics: If there is more, than one healer in party, all of them will be alt-tabbed, afk or watching a movie... just deal with it :P
Second law of healers' dynamics: If there is more, than one healer in party, all of them will be alt-tabbed, afk or watching a movie... just deal with it :P
You have always been the laziest and most alt-tabed cardinal out there :P
Even when you played the archer hehehe
You have always been the laziest and most alt-tabed cardinal out there :P
Even when you played the archer hehehe
Don't tell me that you play again :P Maybe you want to use destiny stone, and change one of your chars into a nuker, as my CP is looking for one currently :P
Don't tell me that you play again :P Maybe you want to use destiny stone, and change one of your chars into a nuker, as my CP is looking for one currently :P
Playing? Perhaps. It's been quite long since I even checked out what's new. And since there's been a new update I propably will log to see what's what. But it'll most def not be as much as when we got our party going. And I'm 85. And I used the stone. To become a tank, just before I quit due to lags and overcrowded servers, I got to play like... twice in all as a tank in parties tough, lol - but still I got friend invites from the people I played with, so I guess I wasn't that crappy. And I've got crap for stuff on me (Yasy can testify to that - she't taken some of her stuff off of Tisi). And I have no idea what, where, when, who and how in L2 anymore :P
Hmm... sounds like fun... jumping in on a 85 character with absolutely no idea how to play it anymore.
I think they should give us an uber mass aggro skill combined with ud (lets say 10 sec +200% pdef mdef with 1 sec reuse) so we can play with one finger while watching movie instead of one full hand :cool:. Listen to the voice of people, bad tanks everywhere, pimp us!!!
Also srsly i wonder what healer you need to have to be forced to use ud (since you mentioned it) in kartia, fortuna or soa o.O. Last time i did have to was proly 2 weeks ago and only due to misclick...
Sometimes doesn't depend on healer, when tank dies luring mobs in soa, and i'm not talking about lvl 85, i'm talking about lvl 90+... If you see you are far away from party cause you are luring mobs and your hp is low try to do something about it, don't die in the middle of mobs and blame the party ...
And playing with one hand?, you wanna watch tv? I think if you are playing you must focus on that, if you wanna do something else just go afk or log off...
Bad tanks, bad healers, bad ISS.. bad whatever.
All you people do is complain... what about helping those "bad" for a change?
Sometimes there's nothing u can do to help, they don't sale "hands" on ebay...
Sometimes doesn't depend on healer, when tank dies luring mobs in soa, and i'm not talking about lvl 85, i'm talking about lvl 90+... If you see you are far away from party cause you are luring mobs and your hp is low try to do something about it, don't die in the middle of mobs and blame the party ...
And playing with one hand?, you wanna watch tv? I think if you are playing you must focus on that, if you wanna do something else just go afk or log off...
Sometimes there's nothing u can do to help, they don't sale "hands" on ebay...
Good healer will run through half of SOA, not stand and watch when tank is stuck in terrain, or lagged and dying. Well, healers, who leveld up in Forge of Gods (three pullers, etc) know this, but those created after GOD... where should they learn such things.
I bet it's the dream of every male player to see female dark elves with bathsuits fighting in the mud!
Hmmm.. Kinky thoughts.. ** Shakes head to clear mind **
@zoexxs: That's a fact.. but even if the RMTers spend some time learning, they can at least be decent... it's not like the game is as hard as in the past.. actually it's about 80% easier..
I bet it's the dream of every male player to see female dark elves with bathsuits fighting in the mud!
NCSoft should make such event!
You have always been the laziest and most alt-tabed cardinal out there :P
Even when you played the archer hehehe
I still cant choose between our two healers, pardon between our healer and our rezer. The fun starts when both of them and the tank are alt+tabbed to watch clips in youtube.
Doing kartia, soa and teredor without tank for a while. Sometimes actualy mostly) i feel safer without em :rolleyes:
When you got the pro Feoh kitting the Kartia like a boss what do you need the tank for ?
Speaking of tanks, the aggro system in l2 seems ******ed and way too random
Good healer will run through half of SOA, not stand and watch when tank is stuck in terrain, or lagged and dying. Well, healers, who leveld up in Forge of Gods (three pullers, etc) know this, but those created after GOD... where should they learn such things.
I do soa without tank, with yul and tyrr and a iss dual box cuase i'm tired of running to keep tank alive. I have almost 3 years being healer and i never saw this kind of things, i think that we r losing game play cause of boting and pwp lvl. 2 or 3 days and they lvl up to 85, a couple of weeks and they r lvl 90 so is obviously that they don't know how to play they chars.
And is not about before and after GoD, i know the game was better before, a lot of things were better, but i think that the biggest problem here is bot and pwp lvl... is just my thought.
@zoexxs: That's a fact.. but even if the RMTers spend some time learning, they can at least be decent... it's not like the game is as hard as in the past.. actually it's about 80% easier..
True the game is easy, but no1 spend time learning or reading or watching a video, they just go for the easy way to do it, and that's why they don't know how to play.
Doing kartia, soa and teredor without tank for a while. Sometimes actualy mostly) i feel safer without em :rolleyes:
Well i do everything without tank, but sometime in some instances u need one :(
OMFG! This is just unbelieveable FORTUNA 94+ last boss Ron, tank "pvd"(******* vietameses) having lag lure all the mobs in the room, making all the party debuffed with fear and died... just tell me WHY THE HELL ALL TANKS HAVE LAG!!!!??? I'm just sick and tired -.-
Yes i can't stop complaining and i will post all the handless tanks names!!!****kkkkk tanks!
A question, i'm gonna have lag too if i do a dual class tank? ....
Now being a tank I will tell you that I've seen much more idiotic DDs in fortuna agroing the whole room than tanks doing it. Fact!. So stop whining and take it like a man.
Now being a tank I will tell you that I've seen much more idiotic DDs in fortuna agroing the whole room than tanks doing it. Fact!. So stop whining and take it like a man.
Sorry but i can't take it like a man, i'm a girl and i like to whine... and i'm not a dd, so i can't agro mobs with aoes or ****, this time was tank's fault cause he "lag"...
If u don't like just don't reply or read :)
It's true, sometimes I see Feohs or Tyrrs AoE inside Fortuna even though we said them not to. Or even use the "jumping" skill on Ron... Figures :rolleyes: (that time I had a very hard time keeping the party alive while killing Yoentumak the Waiter due to this)
that's the idea, but there are only handless tank around to invite them to a CP =/ and they ALWAYS have lagg, (stupid excuse when dieing by their on means)
unfortunely Goddess of Destruction is too dependent of ISS or Tanks, it is not like other cronicles where u can do almost anything without a tank. =/
there are some good tanks around, just a matter of finding them and when u do /friendinvite instantly imo..
also there's a difference between good tanks who can play by hands and "good" tanks who use scripts.. you'll notice the difference when your 95+ and pvp alot ;)
ps, just a fyi but 97+ tanks don't like regular spezion/fortuna so don't take it bad if they turn you down when asked as at that level 400mil XP means nothing.
there are some good tanks around, just a matter of finding them and when u do /friendinvite instantly imo..
also there's a difference between good tanks who can play by hands and "good" tanks who use scripts.. you'll notice the difference when your 95+ and pvp alot ;)
ps, just a fyi but 97+ tanks don't like regular spezion/fortuna so don't take it bad if they turn you down when asked as at that level 400mil XP means nothing.
It was a 94+ party, tank was 96 so i think those 400 mill xp means something. Pvp against who? The server is full of ppl buying chars and botting, i'm sorry but is the true, party room full of ppl selling chars or wanting to buy one (the easy way to suck..)
Find cp, duh.
You choose the wrong game to whine about:p
Well is the idea to find one, but i have to say is really hard to find a tank that suit the "job".
The wrong game? Well i choose the game that i like and that i'm good at it, i try to do my best but i'm getting tired of fails partys cause tanks fault.
Don't get me wrong there are a few really good tanks but like i wrote at first post i can count them with one hand.
Zoexxs, you are a healer, every time I run around Aden I see 3-4 people with "CP lf healer tag". Playing with random people always can lead to nasty surprise... Once we runned into archer who had PR aug and he PRed us from fortuna after which he left party - beat this :P
The difference between dedicated players and those who just play to pass some time is enormous, you just have to get into right company to fully enjoy the game :)
The difference between dedicated players and those who just play to pass some time is enormous, you just have to get into right company to fully enjoy the game :)
Falcon so true. I'm still shocked to see people who cant follow simple instruction as "pick", "don't pick", "shoot" or "leave record" :cool: . I mean... how hard can it be :eek:.
Also I saw proof today that healer can aggro too if someone who's not nested in corner with his back facing the wall get feared and run in a galaxy far far away and the healer hit res by reflex :D . Anyway I don't blame the healer I blame the tank in this case who lagged earlier and d/c-ed so the instanced was pretty screwed up one raid before ron anyway (fyi the tank was me, whip me, hate me, punish me... please!!!).
I also want to apologize to zoexxs for the gender mistake. Take it like a tomboy girl! Be a strong independent woman... (if you remember from Friends ;)).
Also I saw proof today that healer can aggro too if someone who's not nested in corner with his back facing the wall get feared and run in a galaxy far far away and the healer hit res by reflex :D . Anyway I don't blame the healer I blame the tank in this case who lagged earlier and d/c-ed so the instanced was pretty screwed up one raid before ron anyway (fyi the tank was me, whip me, hate me, punish me... please!!!).
Well the fear thing happened yesterday, but was tank that run like crazy after a few seconds othell and tyrr feared too, so imagine how bad it was...
I also want to apologize to zoexxs for the gender mistake. Take it like a tomboy girl! Be a strong independent woman... (if you remember from Friends ;)).
No problem, u don't have to apologize, but i though that zoe was a girl name so it wasn't so hard to figured out, but well u r a tank xD (joke..):)