is 4.7 actually and seems ok i guess. after all is a tyrr
and i don't get it, feoh;s damage is not so impressive, tyrrs have tons of hp/cp, what's the big deal with 2-3 k damage on tyrr.
or is about that low damage done to feoh?
you should use SKILLS not general hits when fighting another player
a person who sold you this char on Ebay or whatever should have explained it to you
you should use SKILLS not general hits when fighting another player
a person who sold you this char on Ebay or whatever should have explained it to you
you should use SKILLS not general hits when fighting another player
a person who sold you this char on Ebay or whatever should have explained it to you
cheers
oyea?
im 99 archer got more pvp's then u for sure and i dont spam skills in pvp cus its worthless neither should a tyrr all he should do is armor break and mass hate thingy for rest tyrr isnt strong at all
hes right mages have always been beyond OP all melees or pshy dd's have to sit back on a crit while mage has standard high ****** damage and new crit rate since kamael? made em even more badass with constant mcrit which do epic damage
and then people come here and try tell me
well 400% mattack herb is equal to 100% pattack herb
o really? do u see me on my archer hitting for 10k normal hits 50k crits while no special skill has been used to bump up my crit damage? no only mages do such a thing
have u ever seen archer normal crit damage with normal buffs vs a mage?
yay 4k damage or so got r99 bow +11 u know WHP restores 5k cp? im really gonna cut tru that crap
and no for record i dont have problems killin mages i **** +16 r99 weap mages without a problem but that doesnt mean mages arent overpowered as a **** in pvp
then again these topics are worthless cus ncsoft cm's dont read em and even if they do they cant do ******** about it
im 99 archer got more pvp's then u for sure and i dont spam skills in pvp cus its worthless neither should a tyrr all he should do is armor break and mass hate thingy for rest tyrr isnt strong at all
hes right mages have always been beyond OP all melees or pshy dd's have to sit back on a crit while mage has standard high ****** damage and new crit rate since kamael? made em even more badass with constant mcrit which do epic damage
and then people come here and try tell me
well 400% mattack herb is equal to 100% pattack herb
o really? do u see me on my archer hitting for 10k normal hits 50k crits while no special skill has been used to bump up my crit damage? no only mages do such a thing
have u ever seen archer normal crit damage with normal buffs vs a mage?
yay 4k damage or so got r99 bow +11 u know WHP restores 5k cp? im really gonna cut tru that crap
and no for record i dont have problems killin mages i **** +16 r99 weap mages without a problem but that doesnt mean mages arent overpowered as a **** in pvp
then again these topics are worthless cus ncsoft cm's dont read em and even if they do they cant do ******** about it
An archer moaning about the damage of another class and them being overpowered..
Well, 1 mage 99 with ranger is able to kill whole party of 97/98 levels. That's all, gf.
I think you should consider changing your other 6 party members if a single mage can wipe your whole party, seriously.
You have multiple hold/stun/lose target/celestial skills and you all die to a single player. Even with an +16 R99 Blessed weapon you should be walking all over a single mage..
I'd consider checking out your gear and investing in some decent mdef.
I think you should consider changing your other 6 party members if a single mage can wipe your whole party, seriously.
You have multiple hold/stun/lose target/celestial skills and you all die to a single player. Even with an +16 R99 Blessed weapon you should be walking all over a single mage..
I'd consider checking out your gear and investing in some decent mdef.
There was that time where 1 tank killed whole party. Ofc a hero with a cancel stick. So with ranger, is even more easier.
There was that time where 1 tank killed whole party. Ofc a hero with a cancel stick. So with ranger, is even more easier.
I'm sorry but if your lvl 97/98 in this chronicle now getting wiped by a single mage you are doing something very very wrong. Feel free to disagree with me but anyone that's at the top level and knows what their doing with classes/party setup etc will agree with me.
you realize im the guy who took all your kills monday? well kengaa/svenks? D::::::
doesnt change the fact that a good mage can **** anything not my problem most dh lul mages do stuff tru program instead of lettin em self control a lil bit :P
but my fact stand if i go for simple normal hits like a mage does normal hit for mage is just a nuke
i will never hit 10/15k
tops 4/5k damage while WHP restores same amount with 0 reuse its beyond ******** if u ask me
On my archer I hit people for 15-25k normal pinpoint shots...... Crits = 45k on people who are 99 with full element (light armor users in knights). I don't know why any of you call mages OP because they are really weak lol. Every single class ***** all over them, Warriors Archers Daggers Tanks (in open pvp).
oyea?
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and then people come here and try tell me
well 400% mattack herb is equal to 100% pattack herb
o really? do u see me on my archer hitting for 10k normal hits 50k crits while no special skill has been used to bump up my crit damage? no only mages do such a thing
have u ever seen archer normal crit damage with normal buffs vs a mage?
yay 4k damage or so got r99 bow +11 u know WHP restores 5k cp? im really gonna cut tru that crap
On my archer I hit people for 15-25k normal pinpoint shots...... Crits = 45k on people who are 99 with full element (light armor users in knights). I don't know why any of you call mages OP because they are really weak lol. Every single class ***** all over them, Warriors Archers Daggers Tanks (in open pvp).
what makes u think i dont do such a thing?
yesterday i did 56k pinpoint shot but hey i dont do these every pinpoint shot
and im not talkin about skills im talkin about normal hits without cc without rhaps without minds eye u wont cut tru anything as archer pvp wise which is beyond sad while a mage nukes u for imba amount non crit
im not saying archers are weak im saying mages are OP tho ima leave this thread people just come here i do Y and X on my class
which isnt the point at all xD
here quick example pinpoint shot has 6? (cant remember) second cool down u do ~10 to 15k damage non crit with bullseye prolly i dont care i dont look at numbers when i pvp
thats either 2 or 3 WHP then ur back to standard 4/6k crits vs equal geared dude
while mage comes up with their wtf imba skills u need spam a aweful alot more whp to withstand his dps
and any1 from a top clan knows using any kind of debuff is useless cus o hai program auto cure ftw <3
If you are getting wtfpwned as a tyrr 1 v 1 vs a feoh you are just garbage bro. I may hit the tyrr pretty hard with normal hits .. but the second he closes the gap and knocks me back im screwed. Either spam 10000000000 draco pots or you die. Glad this game isnt about 1 v 1's though.
I'm sorry but if your lvl 97/98 in this chronicle now getting wiped by a single mage you are doing something very very wrong. Feel free to disagree with me but anyone that's at the top level and knows what their doing with classes/party setup etc will agree with me.
True I'm still wondering if I should be laughing at the statement or be shocked. But knowing a lot of people over the years who have no clue what to do with their toon no matter what level they ding and what gear they put on... I'm not supposed.
As for the topic author... really read the descriptions of some of your skills bro...
I'm sorry I thought this tread will be dead soon,so yeah that pole do not have elements thougt my blessed slasher (the one you can see on the skill bar) is lv 4 holy damage up+haste +13 which is the one I use to kill that mage, I know how to use the tyrr warrior what I dont understand is how hi can hit me over 2k when I have my blessed jewells set +12? how much M.atk the mages have with harmonys and sonatas and dyes?!
you should use SKILLS not general hits when fighting another player
a person who sold you this char on Ebay or whatever should have explained it to you
cheers
The perfect quote indeed.
But if you wanna continue dying, feel free to do it mr "androo" =)
I'm sorry I thought this tread will be dead soon,so yeah that pole do not have elements thougt my blessed slasher (the one you can see on the skill bar) is lv 4 holy damage up+haste +13 which is the one I use to kill that mage, I know how to use the tyrr warrior what I dont understand is how hi can hit me over 2k when I have my blessed jewells set +12? how much M.atk the mages have with harmonys and sonatas and dyes?!
in other words, you have a monster and don't know how to use it, good thing though...
I wish I had some screens of my iss in oly VS mages. 92 iss VS 95+ feoh often goes: transform > BR > dash > dead nuker. If I don't land the transform it gets sketchy, and thats why iss VS feoh is about 50/50 evenly geared (maybe not at top levels, idk), but I've never had issues doing dmg to them anyway. If you're having troubles with your tyrr, you need to start thinking about your skill combos/gear/etc. If you're using epics against nukers, you're confused, try +4 or +5 regular jewels, and switch to the epics when you're up against patk classes.
Did the feoh have a red weapon ? maybe passive or active m.atk augment ? keep in mind you are playing on a private server.. Gm could be friends with said feoh and gave him some special passives.
If you can't destroy a feoh with this character, you're ridiculously bad. I have half the gear you do and a non-blessed +6 specter slasher and I roll over feohs all day long.
I forgot to mention that I do play on chronos server with an 81 saggitarius, I'm just taking a vacation of that character to test others chars and things (that I will never get). No especial skills on mages, they are OP from th core game we test a dark elf feoh with harmonys +sonatas + magic impulse with +12 weapon and standard INT+5 dyes and he easily reach 240k M.atk :S
edit: and R99 robe magic type of course.
ty for not hating this post I'm just asking expert L2 players like all of you that posted your answers in here :)
I'm sorry but if your lvl 97/98 in this chronicle now getting wiped by a single mage you are doing something very very wrong. Feel free to disagree with me but anyone that's at the top level and knows what their doing with classes/party setup etc will agree with me.
This. In top lvl pvp mages are dead on the ground half the time. They can do some hard hits, but it's nothing compared to archers. The only really strong point to nukers is that they are ranged and so they can avoid the hate locks.
I forgot to mention that I do play on chronos server with an 81 saggitarius, I'm just taking a vacation of that character to test others chars and things (that I will never get). No especial skills on mages, they are OP from th core game we test a dark elf feoh with harmonys +sonatas + magic impulse with +12 weapon and standard INT+5 dyes and he easily reach 240k M.atk :S
That's the sign it's a random private server... You can't have Magic Impulse with Iss buffs.
GG for NOT testing on retail. What are you waiting for on retail, that somehow your sagi goes to 85 without you actually playing it? :rolleyes:
This. In top lvl pvp mages are dead on the ground half the time. They can do some hard hits, but it's nothing compared to archers. The only really strong point to nukers is that they are ranged and so they can avoid the hate locks.
it all depends, come Naia where the top mages run around with +16 bless R99 lolz..
still 1 on 1 a lot is possible if play smart just very annoying is the long range combined with their insane run speed & blinks.. especially at +10 oe..
and good tanks eat archers (even the R99 kind) for breakfast.. just saying ;)
it all depends, come Naia where the top mages run around with +16 bless R99 lolz..
still 1 on 1 a lot is possible if play smart just very annoying is the long range combined with their insane run speed & blinks.. especially at +10 oe..
and good tanks eat archers (even the R99 kind) for breakfast.. just saying ;)
it all depends, come Naia where the top mages run around with +16 bless R99 lolz..
still 1 on 1 a lot is possible if play smart just very annoying is the long range combined with their insane run speed & blinks.. especially at +10 oe..
and good tanks eat archers (even the R99 kind) for breakfast.. just saying ;)
One of our 99 tanks took two 25k crits in a row from an archer with +16 R99 double SA bow. Oh and I hear ya on the blinks/run speed 1v1, but as a general rule they aren't as strong @ end game as newbs think.