~Request by lostAcct~
Testing: Othell Skill Damage
Question: Which provides overall greater skill damage/dps, Single Dagger or Dual Daggers
Reason: Not sure if it has been actually tested yet, I have my own opinions about it and prefer dual daggers and some others I know swear about single daggers. Time to settle the differences.Weapons: +4 Amaranthine Shaper and +4 Amaranthine Dual Dagger
Character A: Human Level 99 Othell Rogue
Character A Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots and Heavenly Cocktail Buffs
Character B: Human Level 99 Othell Rogue
Character B Status: No Armor/Equipment with Heavenly Cocktail Buffs
If possible, can you please follow up to this test with maxed out daggers (i.e. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Shaper [Haste + Focus] vs. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Dagger [Damage Up + Focus]).
"Scaling" is an important factor to this test. The single dagger produced more DPS possibly because it had higher static critical damage bonus from being +4. However, when both daggers are maxed, the dual dagger should have much more p.atk than the single dagger. Then, the +4 bonuses shouldn't be that influential anymore. Also, the Damage Up SA is another reason players get dual daggers since the SA options for single dagger aren't impressive.
If possible, can you please follow up to this test with maxed out daggers (i.e. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Shaper [Haste + Focus] vs. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Dagger [Damage Up + Focus]).
"Scaling" is an important factor to this test. The single dagger produced more DPS possibly because it had higher static critical damage bonus from being +4. However, when both daggers are maxed, the dual dagger should have much more p.atk than the single dagger. Then, the +4 bonuses shouldn't be that influential anymore. Also, the Damage Up SA is another reason players get dual daggers since the SA options for single dagger aren't impressive.
++++ for this test
or single +4 focus vs +4 duals dmg up
If possible, can you please follow up to this test with maxed out daggers (i.e. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Shaper [Haste + Focus] vs. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Dagger [Damage Up + Focus]).
"Scaling" is an important factor to this test. The single dagger produced more DPS possibly because it had higher static critical damage bonus from being +4. However, when both daggers are maxed, the dual dagger should have much more p.atk than the single dagger. Then, the +4 bonuses shouldn't be that influential anymore. Also, the Damage Up SA is another reason players get dual daggers since the SA options for single dagger aren't impressive.
If possible, can you please follow up to this test with maxed out daggers (i.e. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Shaper [Haste + Focus] vs. +16 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Dagger [Damage Up + Focus]).
"Scaling" is an important factor to this test. The single dagger produced more DPS possibly because it had higher static critical damage bonus from being +4. However, when both daggers are maxed, the dual dagger should have much more p.atk than the single dagger. Then, the +4 bonuses shouldn't be that influential anymore. Also, the Damage Up SA is another reason players get dual daggers since the SA options for single dagger aren't impressive.
I added an additional DPS test with those weapons.
I wanted to ask just, wich one will give more half kills and critical skills? The "dmg up" is almost nothing ;/
On this test, single daggers > duals. (I was right xD)
I added an additional DPS test with those weapons.
Thank you very much! :)
Hey Juji! Nice test =))))
I wanted to ask just, wich one will give more half kills and critical skills? The "dmg up" is almost nothing ;/
On this test, single daggers > duals. (I was right xD)
not really. dual dagger is 2x faster than single dagger. multiply each damage by 2 and compare the difference in DPS (DAMAGE PER SECOND/OVER TIME). also, you proc your scorpion poison more often with duals.
not really. dual dagger is 2x faster than single dagger. multiply each damage by 2 and compare the difference in DPS (DAMAGE PER SECOND/OVER TIME). also, you proc your scorpion poison more often with duals.
there is no skills on game about what u say... and anyway, we pvp with skills no with normal hits (passive single as well boost atk speed, half kills, etc)
Could you please add in crit probability, and skill refresh rate, also use a set amount of stabs, say 10, and see land rate/damage total
-Edit Also cant u do a DPS test for both of them while trying to captalize abilities
I can no longer update this test at this time and your request is not feasible either.
Is it available to test, that what is their skill DMG?
Because mostly we did use before the GD too, the Dual Dagger to XP and the Single Dagger to PvP.
So if you could expand it with a Heart Breaker skill dmg + skill crit dmg and a Bloodstub skill dmg + skill crit dmg, would be super:).
Also additionally I would like to ask, that what was the race of the Othell Rogue what with you made the test?
I'm no longer doing updates to this test. I already added the skill critical damage for Heart Breaker and Bloodstab. The race I used for the Rogue was Human.
I'm no longer doing updates to this test. I already added the skill critical damage for Heart Breaker and Bloodstab. The race I used for the Rogue was Human.
Ah sorry, I just did detect now, today Im not in my best form:D.
~Request by lostAcct~
Weapons: +4 Amaranthine Shaper and +4 Amaranthine Dual Dagger
Character A: Human Level 99 Othell Rogue
Character A Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots and Heavenly Cocktail Buffs
Character B: Human Level 99 Othell Rogue
Character B Status: No Armor/Equipment with Heavenly Cocktail Buffs
not really. dual dagger is 2x faster than single dagger. multiply each damage by 2 and compare the difference in DPS (DAMAGE PER SECOND/OVER TIME). also, you proc your scorpion poison more often with duals.
Good lord man, do you know how the game works at all? I know you Botted to 99/99 on bartz b4 u moved to chronos but man.. your 2 swings by a dual dagger outputs a tad more damage (because of the higher pattk and the damage up SA) as a single swing from a single dagger... did you really think that you were hitting for more per swing with dual daggers?
Single dagger has also 5 % more success rate in blow than dual daggers and it half kills like mad..
people used to think that dual daggers were better than single for pve and single was better for pvp, but with the half kill rate of a single dagger it makes the dual daggers useless, plus it makes you look like a downy running with 2 daggers on your ugly dwarf.
Good lord man, do you know how the game works at all? I know you Botted to 99/99 on bartz b4 u moved to chronos but man.. your 2 swings by a dual dagger outputs a tad more damage (because of the higher pattk and the damage up SA) as a single swing from a single dagger... did you really think that you were hitting for more per swing with dual daggers?
Single dagger has also 5 % more success rate in blow than dual daggers and it half kills like mad..
people used to think that dual daggers were better than single for pve and single was better for pvp, but with the half kill rate of a single dagger it makes the dual daggers useless, plus it makes you look like a downy running with 2 daggers on your ugly dwarf.
talking about l2p...
So good to see people with brain ^^ (btw, I loled hard with ur answer).
Single dagger has also 5 % more success rate in blow than dual daggers and it half kills like mad..
people used to think that dual daggers were better than single for pve and single was better for pvp, but with the half kill rate of a single dagger it makes the dual daggers useless,
Confirmed. Also, if you happen to have kept the 3rd class skill collector's experience, you can use a shield and boost your shield defense +30%-- with only a minute evasion decrease.
Confirmed. Also, if you happen to have kept the 3rd class skill collector's experience, you can use a shield and boost your shield defense +30%-- with only a minute evasion decrease.
Dagger + Shield, ridiculous since C3
NCSoft need fix this
Obs. I test dual and single hero dagger event, single is unsuless for pvp and pve, no more half, no more damage
Dagger + Shield, ridiculous since C3
NCSoft need fix this
Obs. I test dual and single hero dagger event, single is unsuless for pvp and pve, no more half, no more damage
No it's not ridiculous since C3, since shield blocked magic attacks. So A dagger with a shield vs a mage was a good idea back then (yes it looked ******ed). But now shield has no effect on awakened skills.
So yes now would be pointless to have it against mages.
No it's not ridiculous since C3, since shield blocked magic attacks. So A dagger with a shield vs a mage was a good idea back then (yes it looked ******ed). But now shield has no effect on awakened skills.
So yes now would be pointless to have it against mages.
Anyways back on topic, Mamba CD {PVP} > ALL gf me
Dagger + Shield, I look like a Tanker (no me gusta :(), also I don't like Dual Daggers, I've the duals coz I did for test, and have most damage and bla bla bla, if u have SA "Damage", it's fine for pvp, but in oly Single > Dual, (my opnion based on my tests)
And, yes... Mamba CD {PVP} > ALL
I don't know wtf NCSoft remove drop/craft of this weapons and elegia sets, look so nice apparence
Dagger + Shield, I look like a Tanker (no me gusta :(), also I don't like Dual Daggers, I've the duals coz I did for test, and have most damage and bla bla bla, if u have SA "Damage", it's fine for pvp, but in oly Single > Dual, (my opnion based on my tests)
And, yes... Mamba CD {PVP} > ALL
I don't know wtf NCSoft remove drop/craft of this weapons and elegia sets, look so nice apparence
yeah. I really love those items <3 Now I will try to get a skull dagger xD but I have a vesper shapper works very nice. I killed ppl lvl 95 with that one.
I'm curious the effects using only olympiad buffs with a single dagger dark, 2SA (Haste + Focus) and dual daggers.
I wanted to know the number of stabs you can get off per minute between the two weapons as i am trying to figure out which dagger build would be best for oly.