I'm looking for a better solo exp spot then Swamps.
I managed to get a decent drop from the Mem. Raid event, and was able to sell it to get some decent gear.
I do my K85, SoA daily, Teredor every day. Do H3 Groups now and then and Repti parties when I can but I love to solo and watch tv too and Swamps is just useless.
Hoping u are giving Soa insta a visit aswell, exp is fairly good there.
But sins u are a tyrr, and got boxed iss, then u got 2 choises comming up, depending on how good your gear is.
SoA solo, pulling 2-4 groups depending on your level and gear. This is not the easy option, but it can be done and its great exp up to 94.
Other option Solo GoG lower arear, single target hunting, gear is a BIG factor in your exp income, the more dmg the more exp. But a nice ++++ s80 2hs is a nice tool here.
beside that, there isnt much beside swamp out there.
Currently in Full Twilight (Not Elemental yet though), and got a +3 Apocalypse Slasher with Focus (Also no Elemental yet) Saving my mentee coins to element them.
SoA solo, pulling 2-4 groups depending on your level and gear. This is not the easy option, but it can be done and its great exp up to 94.
just for the sake of curiosity, with Soa Solo, do u mean the normal SoA's ports (bista/repti/crokaron regions) or the nursery, the solo instance? 'cause I'd love to see a video where a level 86 tyrr, no elemented, just with iss buffs and S grade weapon, soloing 2-4 groups of those mobs (considering they would be dark/light red and can 1shot anyone while rolling eyes).
...since nursery is doable till 90, I think I guess what, but I prefer hold my breath... :p
Astarothy next time plz read what it says. pulling 2-4 groups depending on your level and gear.
And yes im talking about the normal old school SoA. and no not everyone can do it, but its defenetly possible. he asked for alternatives to swamp solo and i gave him some options, but there isnt really any other easy options. Maybe now fairy have been come a option, but not many mobs in the easy part, and hard part u still need 90+.
But to asnwer your quest. a Tyrr with immortal. 300 earth, +4Ica trident crt stun, oly ring and earring, or epics(prefered), can take 1-2 groups in cokra. thats what i did from 86 to 88. at 88 i moved bistra and upped my pulls to 2-4 groups, and stayed there untill 94. And i never said this was easy, i said it could be done.
i know its possible what the guy above said but what i wonder is
dont u get armor destruction? and die like a fly, even tho i have seen people doing it i still dont get this debuff when tanks tank u get this debuff constantly and when u solo pull nothing happends :p
If u are weak and have bad gear, then yes swap will land u higher xp/h. but if u have good great, maybe even imba gear. then SoA/GoG will give u 5-10 times the exp u can get at swamp.
just to give u an idea how good i can be. on 90 i was getting 6% pr hour in bistrakon with out exp modifiers, no rune, no vit.
Redmen, yes u do get armor d. but depending on race, u do have a Crap load of HP as tyrr. And yes i did drop from time to time, used a good stack of bress :D But armor d needs to get to lvl 5 to be a problem really, and for me it took 2 groups to kill me if i had lvl 5. Again never said it was easy.
pulling 2-4 groups depending on your level and gear.
I'm Currently 86 Tyrr Warrior and box my ISS.
Based on the above quotes, I guess you have to upgrade your corrective glasses. If you couldnt note, the OP already gave all hints about his matter, which lead to my other wonder:
Tyrr with immortal. 300 earth, +4Ica trident crt stun (of course not the ones from Path of Awakening), oly ring and earring, or epics(prefered)...blablabla
in which parallel universe of Lineage 2 did you infer that OP had all these goodies in his possesion, taking only what he said in his first post as count base? and, but not less important and just for the sake to erase any doubt about the matter, IF, for any luck, he has all these itens with him while playing a freshly 86 level character only with dualbox and clearly lost in the scenario, did you really believe he would be that kind of player in need to come in a forum to ask for such advice?
As you can see, your answers just lead me to more questions. But no worries, 'cause I know your intention is good even if you completely ignored the OP's "reality" (or not). cheers. ;)
I managed to get a decent drop from the Mem. Raid event, and was able to sell it to get some decent gear.
Ok, so according to OP, he got a "decent" drop and was able to afford "decent" gear.
We are responding to the OP here not what can be done with imba gear.
My guess he bought Apoc weapon with one SA, 300 elemented and twilligt jewelry, IF he got wit/m.atk pendant and sell it for 1.4b, now thoose are not "decent", they are top.
So IMHO with decent gear, Swamp or H2 or 3 will be faster and alot safer then SOA trains and GoG, not sure if he would survive 2 normal mobs and the garderner.
iDwarf i just have to say LOL.
If u are weak and have bad gear, then yes swap will land u higher xp/h. but if u have good great, maybe even imba gear. then SoA/GoG will give u 5-10 times the exp u can get at swamp.
just to give u an idea how good i can be. on 90 i was getting 6% pr hour in bistrakon with out exp modifiers, no rune, no vit.
Redmen, yes u do get armor d. but depending on race, u do have a Crap load of HP as tyrr. And yes i did drop from time to time, used a good stack of bress :D But armor d needs to get to lvl 5 to be a problem really, and for me it took 2 groups to kill me if i had lvl 5. Again never said it was easy.
Astarothy next time plz read what it says. pulling 2-4 groups depending on your level and gear.
And yes im talking about the normal old school SoA. and no not everyone can do it, but its defenetly possible. he asked for alternatives to swamp solo and i gave him some options, but there isnt really any other easy options. Maybe now fairy have been come a option, but not many mobs in the easy part, and hard part u still need 90+.
But to asnwer your quest. a Tyrr with immortal. 300 earth, +4Ica trident crt stun, oly ring and earring, or epics(prefered), can take 1-2 groups in cokra. thats what i did from 86 to 88. at 88 i moved bistra and upped my pulls to 2-4 groups, and stayed there untill 94. And i never said this was easy, i said it could be done.
I solo on my Iss in full TW (not fully elemented, but close) and a 300 ele Apoc duals, and I can level in the hard area solo. Sometimes the large cocoons spawn the harder "brutal" mobs, but I haven't died yet :) - had a few nice TW armour drops in the last couple of visits (TW robe gloves, light boots, light circlet) -in about 4/5 hours of XP.
I solo on my Iss in full TW (not fully elemented, but close) and a 300 ele Apoc duals, and I can level in the hard area solo. Sometimes the large cocoons spawn the harder "brutal" mobs, but I haven't died yet :) - had a few nice TW armour drops in the last couple of visits (TW robe gloves, light boots, light circlet) -in about 4/5 hours of XP.
With the latest update... Fairy Settlement was changed to better suit lvl 88-92... I went there last weekend with my WYNN 90, spent like 3 hours, got some exp and 4 drops (2 TW gauntlets, 1 circlet, 1 light helmet)... not worth so much... but still good adena... And was never even close of dying...
So i guess a Tyrr with ISS buffs could do good there too, even at 86...
Astarothy If u aint gonne bring anyting constructive to the discussion then dont bing anything at all. and OP is short for Overpowered, dunno who u are trying to refer to there.
Taunt asked for surgestions, and i gave 3. I never said they where easy, i said it could be done and depending on your level and gear with various succes.
Fairy fairly easy, but exp isnt really anything to jump up over.
GoG lower. Harder, desent mdef and crit rate is really important here. old S80 duals or 2hs overenchanted is offen the cheapest way to get high critrate, and 300 element on weapon.
SoA. and then we have soa. YES ITS HARD, and not everyone can do it, but it can be done and the exp is imba. I spend the first week dying alot trying to make it work for me, but it was still great exp.
Now as for my gear.
Immortal 300 earth element. that is like almost free, and actualy my immortal set was the event u get from graduating at 86.
+4Ica trident crt stun 300 element. I got this weapon for 180kk when i bought it, and this was after GoD launched. on shilen magmeld and barts this will be hard to get, sins it only drop from tiat. but we come back to my first point, it was a surgestion.
Oly ring and earring. How can u highlight this and say bla bla bla. They are free, all u need to do is join oly and lose, and at some point u have enough tokens to buy em, and they last 60 days now. If u are a old returning player it is very likely u have tokens left from when u stopped.
Astarothy when u wake up tomorrow, try getting the right leg out of the bed first, and bring something constructive to the debate, insted of a random rant.
Ok, so according to OP, he got a "decent" drop and was able to afford "decent" gear.
We are responding to the OP here not what can be done with imba gear.
My guess he bought Apoc weapon with one SA, 300 elemented and twilligt jewelry, IF he got wit/m.atk pendant and sell it for 1.4b, now thoose are not "decent", they are top.
So IMHO with decent gear, Swamp or H2 or 3 will be faster and alot safer then SOA trains and GoG, not sure if he would survive 2 normal mobs and the garderner.
Read third post of this topic, so you don't have to guess anything.
If u are weak and have bad gear, then yes swap will land u higher xp/h. but if u have good great, maybe even imba gear. then SoA/GoG will give u 5-10 times the exp u can get at swamp.
just to give u an idea how good i can be. on 90 i was getting 6% pr hour in bistrakon with out exp modifiers, no rune, no vit.
Redmen, yes u do get armor d. but depending on race, u do have a Crap load of HP as tyrr. And yes i did drop from time to time, used a good stack of bress :D But armor d needs to get to lvl 5 to be a problem really, and for me it took 2 groups to kill me if i had lvl 5. Again never said it was easy.
Swamplands XP depends on gear and class.
On a Nuker at 86 in Altar if you have a Retributer with 150 Attribute (Acumen) and kept Arcane Power you do well with a boxed Iss Enchanter. It's no problem, but it's not super good.
On a Summoner with Light + Focus Bow (150 Attribute) using Reapers you only have to target mobs to kill them from range and the XP is faster. Just pin/tape down pet attack or have your gamepad spam it, switch targets when things die, and profit. You're boxing an Iss with that, too (soloing in L2 is boxing a buffer, it's been that way for over half a decade deal with it).
A Tyrr can AoE there but that's dangerous without better gear than those other classes need (i.e. more Armor Attribute), and you need a decent weapon cause not killing quickly adds too much risk.
Most level 86 characters will not have Almost Full Elemented TW with +3 300 Attribute Apocalypse weapons. Try to keep that in mind. They will likely have low R equipment, which is why increasing the HP/Resists for MOBs at Swamplands and Altar of Evil was a terrible move on NCSoft's part (as far as real players are concerned).
i am beginning to wonder how many ppl actually comprehend what they read......The OP said he bought Twilight and NONE of it is elemented yet and neither is the weapon
Taunt, DO NOT LISTEN TO DAISYDUCK, stay out of GoG lower the xp/h sucks if you dont kill fast and soloing GoG is not fast. I know this cuz i have a lvl 87 rouge in +6 twilight gears, all +5 epic jewels,+4 dual daggers with dual SA and 300 element and even i have a hard time soloing out there ( with my Iss of course). As for SoA...i wouldnt do that either ( the way he/she said) its just insane. To get the BEST xp/h go to Harnaks 3 or Timniels Embrace ( fairies ) or SoA Reptilikons IN A GRP. if you are still wanting to solo, then swamps is best place for you ( sry , it sucks i know but thats ure options)
You must remember this: its not how much xp ya get per mob, it how much ya make in an hour, Fairies xp suck per mob but man...over an hours time...you rack up the xp fast and you will very surprised how fast ya go up in lvl. I hope this helps you and Good Luck elementing that armor and weapon, hope ya get it ele'd soon :)...come back and lets us know what ya did and how ya doing...till then...Cheers :p
There is no good solo place from 85-88 really. Not this update anyway, once Lindivor comes out it will be different. Once you're 88 you can go to Fairy's easily.
Your best bet is to try and get a constant party in Harnacks. You can go from 85-91 easily there without any exp enhancers like rune or vit.
To my mind once you hit level 86 the XP from swamps isn't worth the vit you will lose to get that XP which will be so bad you won't be able to tell the difference between grinding and being AFK except that the latter requires fewer shots.
Taunt, DO NOT LISTEN TO DAISYDUCK, stay out of GoG lower the xp/h sucks if you dont kill fast and soloing GoG is not fast. I know this cuz i have a lvl 87 rouge in +6 twilight gears, all +5 epic jewels,+4 dual daggers with dual SA and 300 element and even i have a hard time soloing out there ( with my Iss of course). As for SoA...i wouldnt do that either ( the way he/she said) its just insane. To get the BEST xp/h go to Harnaks 3 or Timniels Embrace ( fairies ) or SoA Reptilikons IN A GRP. if you are still wanting to solo, then swamps is best place for you ( sry , it sucks i know but thats ure options)
Punky before u trash others and say they dont understand what they read, u should aswell. For starters this thread was about Tyrr NOT rouge. If a rouge and a tyrr goes to GoG with equal gear, they Tyrr will rip apart the rouge when comparing xp/h gained. The slayers buffs are created for arears like SoA and GoG. Those 45% extra dmg combined with increased crit dmg from bear and hawk cry(cry depends on your crit rate with out), makes Tyrr warrior able to get better exp solo then in any grp.
To your comment about the way of hunting being insane and he does have gear for it. Well we all know that, but sins he is already hunting in the only option recommendeble for his gear solo, then all we can do is give surgestions, and me and others have added remarks that u need some desent gear to do it. Now as for huntstyle being insane. that depends how u look at it, if u are a chicken then yes its insane. If u are human and got balls(in this case ladys can have it aswell :D) then its a challange, maybe not one u can meet right now, but then its a goal.
Another thing Punky, either u dont think much about what u say, or u are clearly new to the game and been spending your allowence on Ebay. lvl 87 rouge in +6 tw with full epics. As the game is in its current state, no lvl 87 can gather that much gold on his own.
Tyrr are really powerfull on their own, already out of the box at level 85. They do require some more gear then other toons to become really great, but when they get there, there is no equal in power in PVE. And if u have a iss buffer, and got 300 weapon( my favorit is S80 2hs and duals couse of high crit rate), u can always get more exp solo then u can in a party when u measure in xp/h.
Currently im lvl 97 almost 98, and still i can get more exp solo then in group. And plz dont say u havnt tryed that and that place. I been all over the place now, hoping some group could give me higher exp gain then i can solo, couse its just more fun, but still havnt happened.
ok, @DaisyDuck, make like others at least one time and pay 13 others ppl to make a party with you, go inside Istina, Fortuna, Spezion, disperse party and ask them to SoE or whatever and prove US ALL that you can solo whatever you want (ofc, ignoring all mechanics that GoD brought to us, making all party dependant after 85+). But, please, make sure to hit "record" and make a video, certainly it will make all your blablabla a bit more reasonable.
But before, please take down a paper and write down: when you say to the OP go to SoA and pull 4 groups, in fact you're telling him to pull 16 mobs at once (12 light red plus 4 dark red with high chance of 1-shot everyone at level 86). And note that in no one moment anyone said this is impossible or what, but its just not efficient xp if you need to throw ressurection skill (or bress, even more worse) from 30s to 30s or make a respawn in 2 toons n-times.
As I know you will come to trash every single word I posted above right as sun will always rise from east, I wish you luck while fighting against your flies.
Well not gonna trash u couse, even though u are kinda joking with your post, u bring up a valid point, instances. Personaly i consider instances more a break from the grind, and scarifice some exp to do something with party. And i never said i could solo anywhere, i said i could get better exp solo, then with any group. So no u wont see me making a video of me soloing istina.
But sins OP is 86 and teredor is now a 1 time a day instance, then its not really a exp source for him at all.
As for Soa, i said 2-4 groups depending on level and gear. ofc u dont start out with 4 groups. U start out with 1 to see if u can do it, then when u get the hang of it u go to 2, and as u progress u move up. 4 is really the limit sins u cant stack em propper if u pull more. And the 1 hit, well this depends on how good u are with your iss. When i went there lvl 86 the highest hit i took was 16k in a single hit. And at that point i had 22k hp with pole arm. So 1 hit will only be if 2 elite mobs hit u at the same time with skill atk. Icarus trident really helps against this, the stun lands alot on mobs there.
And frankly i dont care for NC's initiatives to make us party dependent, couse they failed. The first 99 on our server got there solo, and they where progressing alot faster then those u always hunted in groups. Now i will agree, some class wont get anywhere with out a group, but there are 3 dd's classes that can level faster solo. Tyrr, Feoh and Wynn are doing just fine on there own.
Last but not least, 2 things ppl offen forget when they say group exp is better. Groups tend to have alot of waiting time, either for insta to close so they can join new, or someone dc or leaves at a bad time and u wait for replacement. And while u wait for replacement u are only 6 in party, and exp bonus from 6 to 7 in party is BIG.
So plz Astarothy stick to your parties, and play as the developers intended, or try and push the limit with the rest of us.
To my mind once you hit level 86 the XP from swamps isn't worth the vit you will lose to get that XP which will be so bad you won't be able to tell the difference between grinding and being AFK except that the latter requires fewer shots.
Altar of Evil is decent for some classes, but not for a Tyrr Warrior unless your server is empty and you can pull trains there. On my Summoner it was fast, on a mage at a good spot it can be decent. The higher level Swampland area isn't even worth it except for doing the daily quest, since it will almost never be empty for that very reason. Assassins and Delegates are obviously not trainable since the former hell bind and the latter are archers.
As for the argument about. Does it even matter? No level 87 Rogue is going to be doing any decent XP/H @ Lower GoG anyways. Don't care what kind of gear you have.
I solo on my Iss in full TW (not fully elemented, but close) and a 300 ele Apoc duals, and I can level in the hard area solo. Sometimes the large cocoons spawn the harder "brutal" mobs, but I haven't died yet :) - had a few nice TW armour drops in the last couple of visits (TW robe gloves, light boots, light circlet) -in about 4/5 hours of XP.
I want to know what spot you are talking about lol.
Currently I have full TW Armor/Jewels, all +3, all have 60 Element P.Def on them Resist Earth/Water/Dark.
Did that Spin wheel thingy and got a Purple Soul Crystal (R95 Grade) and sold it for a pretty penny, and got myself
+4 Apocalypse Dualswords Haste + Health, Holy Ele 150 P.atk
and I tried a small group in Kokra SoA and it was ****** me. I was healing with my ISS and still was a sinking ship, was even trying with Knights Harm/Ogre.
and I tried a small group in Kokra SoA and it was ****** me. I was healing with my ISS and still was a sinking ship, was even trying with Knights Harm/Ogre.
Ok i know i surgested SoA as hunt spot, but i must stop u before u go completely suicide. SoA is for AOE only, dont even think about going there with duals, couse u will die.
Another note for this, life leach is your friend, iss is for backup heal to counter the hard hits from elits. If u dont stack mobs in a good corner, no chance.