Summons redesigned!

Wynn Summoner Started Last reply 37 posts
So I was browsing a Korean site, and I Found theese pictures.

http://tellier.iiens.net/l2/lindvior/

Personally I think they simply recoloured the Warlock/Phantom Summonner Summons and they are dirt cheap, but I totally LOVE the Elemental Summonners new summons, so if Lindvior Hits, my vote is on Elemental Summonner.

What do you guys think?
Better now?
Demon master for life.

Ponies are too pink to be of some use.
Demon master for life.

Ponies are too pink to be of some use.

Nah, you are so negative...
Cats :D
Elf summons look so silly xD

Feline King looks like boss xD

Dark elf look the same?
Nah, you are so negative...
Negative? I'm a Spectral Master :)
Negative? I'm a Spectral Master :)

That's cool.
I love all the summonners, but the Spectral Masters Summons didn't change at all. They look exactly the same. No?
And? I still prefer my summons over the pink ponies!
And? I still prefer my summons over the pink ponies!

Don't get me wrong, but I think the Phantom Summonner deserves to be treated well, as all other summoners. There are a thousand and one ideas they could have implemented for demons.

Whatever.
I still love all summonners, but I stick with my ponies, even though they are blue ;D
Crap.. I voted wrong -.-'
I'm no summoner or anything (well, i am, on my sub) but... I like the cats, they are small but they pack a punch, that idea sounds cool to me xD
Personally from these 3 I loke EM most.
Cats look stupid and ******ed (and where the hell are their cat tails eh?) and I hate looking of those ugly demons (only Spectral Lord looks nice).
So when diversification will come I will be DE with ponies on my sub lol :p or if they will not let me choose LE summons I will be sacrificed with cats cause from SM and AL I like cats better at the end...
Sad that they will throw in trash these cats like we have now cause they looks really cool...
But ponies are not bad ;p I always liked them and they will be reminding my old alt EM who goes into Iss path.
"Summons redesigned!" its realy right name of topic? mby better "new summons looks like preawakening"

PS: pls dont write "they dont look exactly same!' i know it, but little color diference and 10pixels detail changes isnt a lot ...
So I was browsing a Korean site, and I Found theese pictures.

http://tellier.iiens.net/l2/lindvior/

Personally I think they simply recoloured the Warlock/Phantom Summonner Summons and they are dirt cheap, but I totally LOVE the Elemental Summonners new summons, so if Lindvior Hits, my vote is on Elemental Summonner.

What do you guys think?


Somebody has posted this already before in a few days!

Look at this: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=251208
Don't get me wrong, but I think the Phantom Summonner deserves to be treated well, as all other summoners. There are a thousand and one ideas they could have implemented for demons.
Oh, sure that, but I love Spectral Lord and I wouldn't want to see it dramatically changed in any way :p I'm pretty happy it gets a return in Lindvior, I will miss it in the months we'll have to wait for the update to hit NA servers.
They have the same skills though is the question?

Mostly the nightshade i care still having ranged hate?
They have the same skills though is the question?

Mostly the nightshade i care still having ranged hate?

Skills are same as new sumons with few modifications.
Oh, sure that, but I love Spectral Lord and I wouldn't want to see it dramatically changed in any way :p I'm pretty happy it gets a return in Lindvior, I will miss it in the months we'll have to wait for the update to hit NA servers.


I miss the Shadow however... Say what you will, but the Shadow was my favourite PS summon :P
What do you guys think about the class specific buffs?

The Spectral Master seems to gave the best bonus with the 5% bonus P.atk to all servitors.

That is followed by the 5% increase in attack speed for Arcana Lords.

The worst bonus I think is the 5% percent stronger critival damage for Elemental Master.
It's almost unnoticable.

I will still play ES though.
5% is level 1, max level is 15%, but some1 said it changed to 20%.
5% is level 1, max level is 15%, but some1 said it changed to 20%.

I did the math, with 15% increase is P.atk, atk.speed, and crit damage.

Assuming that every summon (servitor) of the same type (ranged, meelee, tank) has the very same stats, the results are the next.

Phantom Summonner and Arcana Lord has an equal amount of DPS.

The DPS of an Elemental Summonner is lower, and thus I will take it as a base (100%).
Comparing it to the DPS of Arcana Lord and Spectral Master I find that both of theese classes possess 103,37% of the Elemental Master's DPS, meaning that both Spectral Master and Arcana Lord has 3,37% higher DPS than Elemental Summonner.

If I want to get more accurate numbers I would need to know the exact stats of the different summons.
now elemental sumoner have lowest dps to, he has worst STR stat, but if use transform (in transform have all same stats) than hes dps is same like other, with new bufs he will be most dps in transform bcose cougars hit 19/20 crits
now elemental sumoner have lowest dps to, he has worst STR stat, but if use transform (in transform have all same stats) than hes dps is same like other, with new bufs he will be most dps in transform bcose cougars hit 19/20 crits

The DPS difference is so low that it's a non-factor imo.
Plus I will be a human Elemental Summonner, so no problem.
The DPS difference is so low that it's a non-factor imo.
Plus I will be a human Elemental Summonner, so no problem.

few post up you tell ele sumoner ill have 3% lower dmg then others, i just tell he have lower dmg than others now to ;) , anyway this 3% isnt a big diference so *** it :D

btw if im human wynn now and in livindor choice horseowner as 5th transfer (or fixed 4th?) ill loose old cats and get old horses? (important one is just seraphim)
few post up you tell ele sumoner ill have 3% lower dmg then others, i just tell he have lower dmg than others now to ;) , anyway this 3% isnt a big diference so *** it :D

btw if im human wynn now and in livindor choice horseowner as 5th transfer (or fixed 4th?) ill loose old cats and get old horses? (important one is just seraphim)

No, you are wrong. I said that Arcana Lord and Spectral Master will have 3.37% higher DPS. It is not the same thing that you said.
3% is really not a difference, so it shouldn't stop you from playing this class. If it were 5% or higher I would pick Arcana Lord.

Yes, I think you will loose kittens and get ponies if you choose elemental summonner.
Hmm, have we actually seen the skills on these pets? So for example, I have a nightshade, i get essentially the bear claw except now in shade format, there is no fundamental differences between these pets, the soulless would have 2 ranged nukes just like reaper?

20% patk will be the best IMO. All though attack speed shortly there behind.
Hmm, have we actually seen the skills on these pets? So for example, I have a nightshade, i get essentially the bear claw except now in shade format, there is no fundamental differences between these pets, the soulless would have 2 ranged nukes just like reaper?

20% patk will be the best IMO. All though attack speed shortly there behind.

new summons will have same skills and stats as cougar/reaper/zaken searcher now, just got new grafic for make diference between classes

sumoners stay same as now, just got new grafic for summons, 1buff for summons and in naviarope will be possible use heal and balance
new summons will have same skills and stats as cougar/reaper/zaken searcher now, just got new grafic for make diference between classes

sumoners stay same as now, just got new grafic for summons, 1buff for summons and in naviarope will be possible use heal and balance

They actually got a lot more than that. A little too much more...
They actually got a lot more than that. A little too much more...

in official korean changelog is just that ... all same, just diferent look for summons, 1 buff and few skills useble in naviarope
in official korean changelog is just that ... all same, just diferent look for summons, 1 buff and few skills useble in naviarope

If you say so.
Hmm, have we actually seen the skills on these pets? So for example, I have a nightshade, i get essentially the bear claw except now in shade format, there is no fundamental differences between these pets, the soulless would have 2 ranged nukes just like reaper?

20% patk will be the best IMO. All though attack speed shortly there behind.


If you do the math it is obvious that AL and SM has the exact same DPS if we assume that all the respective summons have matching stats.

As I said in one of my previous posts, AL and SM will both have 3.37% higher DPS than ES, which is not a big deal.
That is sorta lame, i was looking forward and hoping for having sacrifice back on phantom summoner, maybe i choose different race other then wynn phantom summoner.
That is sorta lame, i was looking forward and hoping for having sacrifice back on phantom summoner, maybe i choose different race other then wynn phantom summoner.

And what would you do with sacrifice?...
Hmm... You would have some pretty serious tanking+healing potential ...
Especially with 2 summons.