i have always played an archer class.. but who hasnt...
i played back in C3 C4 days
i really enjoy tanking .. mostly pvp tanking
tank question - can a new lvl 99 tank go into a castle siege ? are the nukers in this game just way OP and can nuke a non enchanted tank up like a spell howler just 2 shotting a fresh 99 tank... or is it fun to where i can actually tank...
or i can take my chances and play an archer and just learn the game first
are buffers needed? liked BD? i use to play a BD a few years ago...
Archer is a bit op atm, but also might require more investment in gear. If you enjoy playing a tank, I think you should go tank, its a really needed class atm.
No, nukers arent really too OP and wont be 2 shotting ppl left and right, at least not if ppl put on proper jewelry (aka, dont wear b grade and a grade....). Also, having a live healer helps.
Buffers are still needed, but many ppl box an Iss enchanter, and there is no shortage of this class.
If you are looking to play a class that gets random groups easily, play tank or healer.
ok... and i have an olympid question... i want to play the best tank.. so that is to lvl an Orc Tyrr warrior then dual class a sigil warrior... BUT!!! i want to compete in the oly.. how do u compete in oly now.. still under "hell knight" "paladin" "abyss walker" "etc..."
You would have needed an Orc with a Stone of Destiny from before to be able to compete as an Orc Sigel Knight.
ok but those orc sigel knights.. there is a few of them around? thats fine w.e... but when they compete in the olympiad... what do they compete under? still tyrant or destroyer?
and i can sublcass an orc to a human paladin right?
You can not go into olympiads with any kind of sub-class as before goddess of destruction, even if it is your dual class you can't.
And l2 is not like before. Quite boring with all races and classes using the same skills, so just care about which race you really like in appearance, and which race has the best racial skills for the class that you'll take as main class.
Remember that any race/class can win on olympiads, that has been always!
You can not go into olympiads with any kind of sub-class as before goddess of destruction, even if it is your dual class you can't.
And l2 is not like before. Quite boring with all races and classes using the same skills, so just care about which race you really like in appearance, and which race has the best racial skills for the class that you'll take as main class.
Remember that any race/class can win on olympiads, that has been always!
Is there confirmation that in the next update we'll receive class-specific awakened skills?
"* The poll has already happened and ended in Korea and development based on those responses has begun."
Yes, there is some information about 2/3 new skills for different class between the races... But, it isn't a real change at all, the classes still having all the same GoD skills. So it still boring in fact.
Archer is a bit op atm,
OK whoever can explain properly WHY the hell he thinks the archers are OPed, i'll mail him 100kk adena in Naia. But i don't want the regular "ooh archer lvl 99 with Baium+Octavis+Antharas+Istina +Octavis necklace and +8 set and +16Bow with +10 skills and +15STR dyes 1-shot-kills me". I'm talking about normal geared archer lvl 92 for example with +4/+3 TW Light Armor 120resist , with +4 Bow/X-bow with 300 element. When and how is this OPed? Against what class, what gear and what lvl ?
Cos i'm really tired of ppl just spreading the stupid rumour. Yes in KOREA the archers are OPed, but there the Flash skill works just fine; the max reflect dmg rule applys to all as intended and the p.atk - dmg relation formula isn't from Freya. Everytime i ask some1 why he thinks the archers are OPed the answer is the same "well i don't know; someone told me they just are"
It has alot to do with the debuff, and the fact that its a ranged character. Not to mention it has 2 skills to move around as well, making it hard for melee to "connect" to it and kill it.
If an archer is lvl 92 I suggest he should focus on lvling up though, you aint gonna kill much in real pvp at that lvl.
OK whoever can explain properly WHY the hell he thinks the archers are OPed, i'll mail him 100kk adena in Naia.
Lets see what archers have, shall we?
-Highest p.atk
-Highest crit rate (cap)
-Highest crit dmg
-Highest speed (cap if you're elf)
-Highest atk speed (1500 all the time if you know how to decrease quick fire re-use)
-Highest accuracy
-Highest evasion
-Highest range
-Incredibly high chance of triggering skill mastery (double duration/insta re-use)
-Multiple de-target/hide skills
-Most useful debuff (-60% bow resist)
-9 second stun
-Extremely high power skill that ignores 30% p.def (seriously, NCSoft?)
-120k power AOE
-Self-buff that makes them 1-shot everything wearing robes with a de facto duration of 2 minutes and 40 seconds
If you can mail that adena on Core (Innova) that would be great, since I don't play on these lolservers with corrupt GMs anymore :D
-Highest p.atk - always had it; that;s nothing new and it;s normal to have iit.
-Highest crit rate (cap) - Daggers also have it as well as normaly equiped tyrr
-Highest crit dmg - agree.
-Highest speed (cap if you're elf) - Tyrr has the same with rabbit spirit; daggers have the same run speed even in hide; healers have some rush have no clue what's its name; nukers have constant teleport (and i mena constant)
-Highest atk speed (1500 all the time if you know how to decrease quick fire re-use) - as well as daggers, who have much less skill reuse time;
-Highest accuracy - just won't comment that one xD
-Highest evasion - somebody haven't seen light elf dagger. Also check the evasion formula to see why it's not working
-Highest range - Well .. that's kind of the point for the archer... it's like saying "that tank has highest p.def or shield success rate"
-Incredibly high chance of triggering skill mastery (double duration/insta re-use) - again -> check elven daggers
-Multiple de-target/hide skills - only DE archers have 2 (and since GD the Disparation isn't working AT ALL); all the other have only Flash and it's not working as it should cos it also cancel's the archer's target, not only the enemy :x
-Most useful debuff (-60% bow resist) - yeah .. 200% skill reuse time isn't usefull at all
-9 second stun - with almost 2 mins reuse time
-Extremely high power skill that ignores 30% p.def (seriously, NCSoft?) - you play Innova or what ?!?!?!?
-120k power AOE - 120k Magic Skill .. M-A-G-I-C counts the m.atk you have; pritty useless with bow and 2k. m.atk
-Self-buff that makes them 1-shot everything wearing robes with a de facto duration of 2 minutes and 40 seconds - seriously man, stop playing Innova..
If you can mail that adena on Core (Innova) that would be great, since I don't play on these lolservers with corrupt GMs anymore :D
P.S didn't see you play Innova before i wrote all the stuff. I'm talking about Naia, not Private servers. On Innova my archer with half of the equip of this one here does 150% more dmg *.* Have no clue which is the right way.
P.S didn't see you play Innova before i wrote all the stuff. I'm talking about Naia, not Private servers. On Innova my archer with half of the equip of this one here does 150% more dmg *.* Have no clue which is the right way.
Sorry to say it, but you're talking stupid things.
1. Innova Core is not a private server. We are the PTS for them, trust me! They are having the same patches as we are having only 2 weeks/1 month later (except mentor system though, it came there 1 year later...).
2. May be you had those, when something was not fixed, however there is no difference between NCWest and Innova Core atm, except that they had cooler cash shop, cooler support and much much much better Christmas event.
P.S didn't see you play Innova before i wrote all the stuff. I'm talking about Naia, not Private servers. On Innova my archer with half of the equip of this one here does 150% more dmg *.* Have no clue which is the right way.
I'm talking about my experience playing here (until last week), not Innova.
Plus I don't get how you can say archers hit harder on Innova or anything like that since NCWest and Innova servers are running on virtually the same patch (even with same Win8 bug).
There's a reason why everyone who did/does end-game pvp says archers are OP... it's because they are!
Maybe you're playing with wrong gear/dyes, or trying to kill healers with +10 heavy sets, but trust me, archers are the most OP class in the game right now, and the 3rd most OP class in all history of lineage 2 (after archers in interlude and nukers in c3).
P.S: Funny how you call Innova a private server considering the most over-enchanted R-grade weapon there is +9 yet theres a bunch of +17/18/19/20 weapons running around on NCWest ;)
P.P.S: I can see why you think archers are not OP since you clearly have no idea how l2 works. Phoenix arrow is an active/physical skill, not magical. A magical skill with 120k power would 1-shot valakas.
I will tell you what is the most OPed thing about archers. They reflect debuffs, yea u effin heard me, an archer REFLECTING DEBUFFS, as if healer's wasnt enough with their reflect + eternal cleanse. It makes so much sense that a class using a bow can reflect a FACE KICK back to you. You kicking yourself, the logic is the most hilarious one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V58LkjfLi8
But fear not because it's also effin hilarious when you use stun(impact) shot on healer and you get stuned in return! Amazing!