Hi all.
i returned to l2 and would like to start (or change to dager with SoD).i would like/liked WR in pre-God very much.i not care just about oly,more about open pvp.
it seems many thinks changed and all the threads are a lil confusing.so i simple ask.
1. How is Elf othell these days in openpvp(party/single),oly?
2. elf have still highest sugges chance on Stabs?
3. if yes,its worth to pick elf again and may max out str(coz dex is already high),or raise str+dex on same amount to hit harder with stabs or keep old style +dex(+con)?
4. its still like pre-god, dualdagger(higher basic dmg) on pve and single(faster and higher stabdmg,succesrate) on pvp?
5. i know there are no official patchnotes for lindvior now,but i readed u can chosse what othel u will be after reawekening.so can an de othel get wr skills (high str,well dex) and nice wr skills?
6.How do u seted ur wr or how would u?
Hi all.
i returned to l2 and would like to start (or change to dager with SoD).i would like/liked WR in pre-God very much.i not care just about oly,more about open pvp.
it seems many thinks changed and all the threads are a lil confusing.so i simple ask.
1. How is Elf othell these days in openpvp(party/single),oly?
2. elf have still highest sugges chance on Stabs?
3. if yes,its worth to pick elf again and may max out str(coz dex is already high),or raise str+dex on same amount to hit harder with stabs or keep old style +dex(+con)?
4. its still like pre-god, dualdagger(higher basic dmg) on pve and single(faster and higher stabdmg,succesrate) on pvp?
5. i know there are no official patchnotes for lindvior now,but i readed u can chosse what othel u will be after reawekening.so can an de othel get wr skills (high str,well dex) and nice wr skills?
6.How do u seted ur wr or how would u?
hope for lil help,and thx for suggestions.
Iam an elf othell and i can answer your questions.
1. Open pvp you are the quickest of all daggers (not saying others are far behind, DE is also very fast) but you can achieve passive run speed of 300 with dyes and rudolph buff + silent step. You also have decent con which means good balance of HP/CP/stun protection
2. landing rate of stabs is no longer dependent on dex or str. However skill crits is determined by dex while instant/double reuse is dependent on str. Therefore if u want more clones/olympiad build go more STR (take Dark elf instead)
3. i always say play to your racial benefits. You went elf so might as well max out dex and turn it into a skill crit beast. When elves crit, they crit hard. These skill crits is what's keeping our class still in the game.
4. dual dagger vs single is dependent on you. If u like single go single if u like duals go duals. IF u want to overenchant then go duals and str build. normally you dont need anything more than +4
5. from what ive read the new patch will just give us dodge and something similar to focus death. Only 2 new skills per class as i understand it.
6. i made a dex build on my dagger. dex dex and more dex. that being said i have shltty gear compared to most but i can hold my own in pvp and olympiad.
Tada 86 Elf Rogue done.
i tried alot with duals/single (vesper+4 from poa).
for me it seems single is betther with succes rate of landing blows,any confirms?
i am not shure if stand with requiem/event (preferly single+4(prefer haste coz i have enough critrate) 150/175ele) and change on 95,
or betther go for apoduals/dmg up+4 try get 300ele and stay with this,till end?
same about gear,stay in free gear till 95,or go for tw?
how hard is r95 weapon/gear (and lvl 95 for a dagger)to get?(heared dagger most unliked class in 7man ptys coz no well aoe dmg), are there easy dailys for it?
There's a damage comparison on juji's lab about single vs dual dagger
about the 7 man dilema, there are ppl that wont let u join cause you are a dagger, and the main reason they give is the lack of aoe, it's a bit dumb since with poison zone and dagger rain you give 2 good dots and still give weakness to mobs, besides half kill on big hp mobs saves a time.
About equip....
Twilight seams a long run bet and OK'ish , dagger's are evasion dependent, you wont really tank damage, about weapon, I' use a requien dual dagger +4 damage up and I don't think I will upgrade anytime soon, and I still take agro away from tanks.
They look quite bad.
Single daggers are more refined and artistic. They are also more handy and practical
Dual daggers are for Drizzt Do'Urden wannabes.
I am honestly disapleased with the amount of dual-weapon using classes in this game.
Warriors use duals,
Enchanters use duals,
Daggers use duals.
That is 3 class out of 8.
Dual wielding should be an exquisite art restrictred to the most dedicated characters.
Yet what I see is that every second character is running around dual wielding, like if it was easy or something.
They look quite bad.
Single daggers are more refined and artistic. They are also more handy and practical
Dual daggers are for Drizzt Do'Urden wannabes.
I am honestly disapleased with the amount of dual-weapon using classes in this game.
Warriors use duals,
Enchanters use duals,
Daggers use duals.
That is 3 class out of 8.
Dual wielding should be an exquisite art restrictred to the most dedicated characters.
Yet what I see is that every second character is running around dual wielding, like if it was easy or something.
This is a game...that one-handed pixel dagger is super handy when you get mugged irl right?
This is a game...that one-handed pixel dagger is super handy when you get mugged irl right?
Also you sound, incredibly narrow-minded atm...
Nope, I just happen to think that there are things in this game that should be accomplished.
Like sudclass, dualclass, nibless, and artistic weapon-handling style.
Yet you get it all for free.
Your opinion related to my person is premature and not based on true knowledge of my behavioural pattern, thus it is unworthy of being taken into consideration.
And yes, One 5 inches long Knife can pretty much disorient anyone who wants to mug you on the streets at night. Of course if they have a gun you hand your wallet over. So far I was lucky.
Nope, I just happen to think that there are things in this game that should be accomplished.
Like sudclass, dualclass, nibless, and artistic weapon-handling style.
Yet you get it all for free.
Your opinion related to my person is premature and not based on true knowledge of my behavioural pattern, thus it is unworthy of being taken into consideration.
And yes, One 5 inches long Knife can pretty much disorient anyone who wants to mug you on the streets at night. Of course if they have a gun you hand your wallet over. So far I was lucky.
I should resort to sarcasm and ironic tone when dealing with others on the forums...
They look quite bad.
Single daggers are more refined and artistic. They are also more handy and practical
Dual daggers are for Drizzt Do'Urden wannabes.
I am honestly disapleased with the amount of dual-weapon using classes in this game.
Warriors use duals,
Enchanters use duals,
Daggers use duals.
That is 3 class out of 8.
Dual wielding should be an exquisite art restrictred to the most dedicated characters.
Yet what I see is that every second character is running around dual wielding, like if it was easy or something.
I think like you , if we go back in the pass only Duelist was using dual weapon.
i miss the time when i was a young Wind Rider with single dagger but now with dual dagger its almost a must.
I did some test with my friend Andouille at the start of GoD to see the differance between single and dual dagger, dual dagger was much better .... Specialy when using clone cause clone atk got more patk. i was droping him more fast with dual dagger. That why i use dual dagger but tbh the single dagger miss me a lot.
That why i use dual dagger but tbh the single dagger miss me a lot.
really?for me it looks like single succes bether.ill will stay with my free gear 1. immortal+ requim.
if i right requim duals have no +cd on +4,just single.so would it be bether to go single "higher succesrate" +cd?
ps: i am @ work atm,cant checke if i right about low r sa
Bestows one of the following functions: Damage Up, Focus, or Guidance. Two functions can be bestowed through a rare soul crystal. Increases P. Critical Damage Increases P. Atk. when enchanted to + 4.
really?for me it looks like single succes bether.ill will stay with my free gear 1. immortal+ requim.
if i right requim duals have no +cd on +4,just single.so would it be bether to go single "higher succesrate" +cd?
ps: i am @ work atm,cant checke if i right about low r sa
Yes realy , and tbh i have never lost against dagger with 1 hand dagger,I have alway made many more dmg then them even if they are highter then me. and if im right,there is no CD SA in R dagger weapon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idh9Qa9JO2Q
Yes realy , and tbh i have never lost against dagger with 1 hand dagger,I have alway made many more dmg then them even if they are highter then me. and if im right,there is no CD SA in R dagger weapon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idh9Qa9JO2Q
That CannedSpam earned his rightful place as the worst dagger in history lol
Yes realy , and tbh i have never lost against dagger with 1 hand dagger,I have alway made many more dmg then them even if they are highter then me. and if im right,there is no CD SA in R dagger weapon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idh9Qa9JO2Q
its because i hold my right click and i got stressed XD and my mouse is a G5 mouse so i have some sortcut to use skill so when i spam a skill to use it fast it make it