In Teredor parties i usually see someone shouting ''NO FAST RUN'' persistently.
%90 of these ''No fast Run'' parties i have been in were completely fail.I don't see the reason behind this ''NO FAST RUN'' legend.
Here are some things i noticed during Teredor instances;
Whether you use fast run or not,when you pass near eggs they start to shine but dont break.
Whether you use fast run or not,when you touch an egg,they shine again but don't break.I think ''Don't touch eggs when running'' legend is a lie either.
When you pass near the mobs called ''Beatle'' which are titled as Hatcher,they cast a spell then the minions spawn and eggs dissapear.
When you avoid getting near those Beatles nothing ever spawns.
So i think this has nothing to do with FAST RUN.It's nearly impossible for 7 members to avoid Beatles so minions are spawned in almost every teredor instance and the worst part if your running speed is not enough for you to make minions lose your track,you end up with a load of minions at Teredor's hideout or die on half way.Then that ''No Fast Run'' thing makes the party fail instead of saving the day.
I saw these fails in many good clan parties and they end up blaming one of them for using Fast Run or touching eggs.It would'nt be much of a problem but i see too many believers even people whose information i trust.
An authority must make this clear so we see if those ''professional'' players who floated this rumour,are right or wrong.
In Teredor parties i usually see someone shouting ''NO FAST RUN'' persistently
I have seen this only once (after doing 100+ teredors), didnt care about it though. Teredor is very easy instance. Just use shadow, run through carefully, along left side for example (most ppl run this way), stop to kill minions before attacking Teredor (no matter if its 3 mobs or more, tank just catch them, he can simply use UD skills if there are too much minions following). Kill boss after that. The only problems in that instance are:
- someone died before coming to Tere (pr and enter again), thats very rare
- noob iss who cant buff/debuff properly, thats more often, haha
I have seen this only once (after doing 100+ teredors), didnt care about it though. Teredor is very easy instance. Just use shadow, run through carefully, along left side for example (most ppl run this way), stop to kill minions before attacking Teredor (no matter if its 3 mobs or more, tank just catch them, he can simply use UD skills if there are too much minions following). Kill boss after that. The only problems in that instance are:
- someone died before coming to Tere (pr and enter again), thats very rare
- noob iss who cant buff/debuff properly, thats more often, haha
dm has no impact in that instance, hatchers can still see you and mobs still follow you. i go perfectly fine w/o dm
Using skill under ISS celest will only remove it on the person that used it, if that person is now outrunning the mobs, there should be no problem, right?
DM should only be used if oe'd for windwalk, it will not make you invisible to any mobs, the hatchers see through it, pop eggs, and those mobs will go for whoever the hatcher saw.
To be hones I see more ppl fail due to not knowing the proper run path. Never go for the big broad right side, stay on the left side, take the small ramp. The tiny Teredor runs up and down the right hand side, and you dont wanna run into him, he will spawn an Elite millipede on you and do his jump attack.
Same thing during the time Teredor is below ground, running up close to him to aggro him is pointless, he will do his jump attack again, spawn millipedes and you still cant target him.
They have made this instance really easy now though, I dont see how ppl will actually fail it anymore.
Fast run or shadow mean nothing in teredor. Is just a players QQ legend , you can't use it 'cause they say that's going to break the eggs , and u'll get zerged by mobs.
If you fail an instance is just 'cause your party is made with ******s (for example , in Naia , we still have people able to fail fortuna , 'cause healers sleeps or tanks just watch the wall instead of aggro , they should stop buying chars or botting chars they're not good to use...lol -.-)
Actually is kinda IMPOSSIBLE to fail teredor for fast run , if you get stucked (bug) in a texture is a thing , if you're so **** to not be able to dodge a **** wall/mob and die over-hitted , is another story ...
I've never seen anyone doing anything but fast run on NAIA and I've done my fair share of teredors. It's always like: Enter instance > buffs > horses > shadow > run.
It doesn't take a brain to do these things. What I do is I intentionally wake a many eggs as possible when someone ****** me off and make them fight for their lives. I get a good practice in healing and they **** about the myths. :)
Just because the guy made a party and therefor claimed the "title" as partyleader, doesnt mean he knows what he is doing.
Idiots comes in all forms, shapes and colours
Group demand structure, if the party leader is not leading the group he'll probably ask someone to do this. When I do a group I call what I want everyone to do otherwise is just a mess with people running around and doing what they want to do.
Just because the guy made a party and therefor claimed the "title" as partyleader, doesnt mean he knows what he is doing.
idiots comes in all forms, shapes and colours
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It doesn't take a brain to do these things. What I do is I intentionally wake a many eggs as possible when someone ****** me off and make them fight for their lives. I get a good practice in healing and they **** about the myths. :)
Aaaa good for you.It's true it doesn't need a brain to wake eggs since it's the 'hatcher''s job.
To be honest
I was trying to insult you.Maybe,you mistook the intent.If you didn't,thank you for your understanding.If you did..come at me with everything you've got.
If you fail teredor you are terrible (LOL SEE WUT I DID THERE)
When I do teredor on my Dual - use fast run. DM helps vs certain mobs.
If you die on the way - unless you are the healer or ISS we probably don't need you anyway.
I can easily tank the huge amount of mobs that come. If its too many just run circles while your party aoes them. Plus you have UD + Party UD if necessary.
in fact, not using "fast run" from horse skill table will help to not make beatles hatch and pop up eggs. I use this tactic, but only after the 2nd bridge, near teredor's nest.
then, if you have low lvl ppl (85'ish in vesper set), use 'fast run' at the start, and after the bridge, dont use it till you pass completely the eggs. At the nest entrance, use it again to aproach faster. this way, only 1 or 2 mobs will follow the slowers ones.
about DM, no point unless it's OE for ++windwalk, since mobs can see 'through' it easily.
anyway, fail teredor? really? teredor was a real pain when it could be entered infinites times and ppl was afraid to do it, unless all in party were 87+ (preferably in TW, plus 2 healers to keep things up), but now, its just a "piece-of-cake-yum-yum-my-easy-xp". my dearfkinggod, after it got revamped, you can even do teredor without healer or tanker at all (2 isses with brain and hands can handle the party survivability good enough)
To be honest
I was trying to insult you.Maybe,you mistook the intent.If you didn't,thank you for your understanding.If you did..come at me with everything you've got.
I know, it takes a lot more to offend me btw. I learned the art of lulz from Smittie and Elro.
Likewise, don't be a follower, lead the party or everyone will just die.
Group demand structure, if the party leader is not leading the group he'll probably ask someone to do this. When I do a group I call what I want everyone to do otherwise is just a mess with people running around and doing what they want to do.
I agree with the red part. :cool:
This is almost always the reason for every fail party I have ever been in.
I know, it takes a lot more to offend me btw. I learned the art of lulz from Smittie and Elro.
Likewise, don't be a follower, lead the party or everyone will just die.
Nice self-confidence you've got there.But i don't remember anything wise coming out from Smittie.Don't know who elro is.
By doing this you will only end up with 7 party leaders who have different ways to reach the glory.
No one likes to follow.They won't recognize an authority either,at least in game.Giving out commands and expect someone to listen is futile.
What really important is to destroy their wrong beliefs.Only by this you can have a community who knows what should be done.
Nice self-confidence you've got there.But i don't remember anything wise coming out from Smittie.Don't know who elro is.
By doing this you will only end up with 7 party leaders who have different ways to reach the glory.
No one likes to follow.They won't recognize an authority either,at least in game.Giving out commands and expect someone to listen is futile.
What really important is to destroy their wrong beliefs.Only by this you can have a community who knows what should be done.
well, at least we know WHY your parties tend to fail often. doing teredor. the easy version of it.
I've never seen anyone doing anything but fast run on NAIA and I've done my fair share of teredors. It's always like: Enter instance > buffs > horses > shadow > run.
LOLed hard buahahahahahah
devil doesnt help with ANYTHING there,but HEY! ur pt looks cool at last :D