changes to plunder

Othell Rogue Started Last reply 25 posts
Hey all

i'm just wondering if they will making some drastic changes to plunder? it seems to barely work.
Well the change we KNOW they are making, is that only dwarven othell fortune seekers will get the skill. What we NEED to know, is if they are increasing the spoil/plunder rate. That is unknown at this point unfortunately.:(
since plunder right now is an useless skill.. deleting the skill makes no difference
since plunder right now is an useless skill.. deleting the skill makes no difference

The skill won't be useless anymore when they delete it from the other archtypes.
It's getting an upgrade.
Hopefully it will be an upgrade, im planning on keeping my FS Othell and stuff, but if spoil is still ****** up... i will be an angry santa dwarf >.<!

O2D
Yea it's looking good that it will be upgraded. We get AOE plunder and the cooldown for us now will be only 3 seconds for both. We also are getting P.Atk and HP/CP passive increases.
Yea it's looking good that it will be upgraded. We get AOE plunder and the cooldown for us now will be only 3 seconds for both. We also are getting P.Atk and HP/CP passive increases.
Wher u read thet info ?
any info for suces rate ?
check that awesome reuse for spoil! (also it will make damage)
all go spoilers!
check that awesome reuse for spoil! (also it will make damage)
all go spoilers!

The CD alone and the AOE version makes it more useful than the old plunder.
OR Fortune Sekeers won't be the worst of othells in my pov. I would say that they will more useful than OR Adventures i.e.
Yep and check out that low mp cost per use. I'm curious if it will be a one try per mob thing, like the current awakened version, or like the old style spoil of "until it lands".
Yep and check out that low mp cost per use. I'm curious if it will be a one try per mob thing, like the current awakened version, or like the old style spoil of "until it lands".

I'm sure it'll work just like our current one does...
I agree, that's my suspicion as well. I do however believe that because plunder was "deleted" and has to be re-learned as a new plunder, that in that design is an increased spoil rate. Otherwise the crafting system revamp would fail. If you notice in the patch notes they subtly mention the following:

You may obtain "thread" crafting items and recipes only by using "Spoil" from "Fortune Seeker" or "Plunder" from "Othell Fortune Seeker."

Very indeterminate.
i spend in total around 15 minutes plundering light blue mobs on pts in Seal of Shillen and only plundered one item.

and it is indeed still one chance per mob - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O42f57ZOhKo
i spend in total around 15 minutes plundering light blue mobs on pts in Seal of Shillen and only plundered one item.

and it is indeed still one chance per mob - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O42f57ZOhKo

Try Pagans temple and get back to me plz.
i spend in total around 15 minutes plundering light blue mobs on pts in Seal of Shillen and only plundered one item.

and it is indeed still one chance per mob - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O42f57ZOhKo

1. If you spoil light blue mobs, you have about 1/2 or even 1/4 chance to get spoiled item from them.
2. You did test this on a private server, we know that the Innova not just can, but modify too, the rate of drops or the rate of vitality or the amount of XP what necessary to get higher level etc.

So, We can say thanks to your time, that did try it and did upload it, but I think if the test doesn't happen on the NCKorea, NCJapan, NCTaiwan, NCThailand, NCChina or NCWest servers, it is useless to us.
1. If you spoil light blue mobs, you have about 1/2 or even 1/4 chance to get spoiled item from them.
2. You did test this on a private server, we know that the Innova not just can, but modify too, the rate of drops or the rate of vitality or the amount of XP what necessary to get higher level etc.

So, We can say thanks to your time, that did try it and did upload it, but I think if the test doesn't happen on the NCKorea, NCJapan, NCTaiwan, NCThailand, NCChina or NCWest servers, it is useless to us.

Each region can change things as they see fit so based on your logic every server is a private server. Ncjapan/ncchina etc all modify things for their region. Saying that we are most likely to have the same rates or similar as them.
Ok , did some more plunder and mug testing on the PTS and it appears to be area based. SOS, Pagans Temple, Land of Chaos, Orbis, Cemetary and HellFire the rates are 5% or lower while GOG, Fairy Settlement, Guillotine Fortress, Guinak region and Harnak are consistent between 75%-90%https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ZfPG8YugQ
Ok , did some more plunder and mug testing on the PTS and it appears to be area based. SOS, Pagans Temple, Land of Chaos, Orbis, Cemetary and HellFire the rates are 5% or lower while GOG, Fairy Settlement, Guillotine Fortress, Guinak region and Harnak are consistent between 75%-90%https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ZfPG8YugQ
I second that: Proving on SoS and Spicula-Stronghold 2/3, the rates are low on SoS and high on SH areas. Im excited to see GF and other places, i hope i dont end up regretting the FS Othell change.

That, and the fact that both mug and plunder do some damage, it is a good way of racking up damage on AoE parties and help on the skill rotation (before, i had to wait a couple secs between rotations, now i can do skills + plunder and add up damage). Moreso, at 96, mug power is 15k, while razor rain and dagger explo are 17k and 16k each (IIRC), so it is a good way of adding damage to such parties (and get the spoils, of course :rolleyes:). Not an AoE specialist, but at least helps a LOT.
About this topic: Has someone mapped good 85+ places to spoil? At least i know that Kamael Village and GF yield a frequent spoil, and SoS is a little slower (but when it lands, you get some good items). How's fairy? Swampland? GoG?
Ok sooooo... what I want to know is.... what is every1 spoiling? cuz all im spoiling is basic mats like leather, thread, and such from 85+ mobs?? is this correct no kool spoils available???:eek:
Ok sooooo... what I want to know is.... what is every1 spoiling? cuz all im spoiling is basic mats like leather, thread, and such from 85+ mobs?? is this correct no kool spoils available???:eek:
So far:

From SoS im spoiling 20 Adamantite (Lvl 3) + 1 Orichalcum (Lvl 4), and a gemstone R (daily grind, 20-30mins, spoiling 85% of all monsters, give or take 100 monsters for daily quest). Spoil here is almost 1 per 5/6 monsters, solo grind (all spoil to me).

From GF, im getting Accessory Lvl 3, Weapon and Armor Lvl 3 more sparcely, and lvl 3 threads (some lvl 4 quality thread, sparcely too). Some Gemstone R (6 from all days), daily grind, 20-30mins, spoiling all mobs with mug (AoE party quest), give or take 200 daily monsters). Spoil here is almost 1 per 2 monsters, AoE grind (if i get a random not spoil party).

From Nornil's cave/SH2/Spicula daily, im getting lvl 3 threads (some lvl 4 quality thread), and nothing more, 30 minute grind, a lot of monsters (cant say precisely, im guessing 200?). Spoil here is similar to GF (1 per 2 monsters, AoE grind, random not spoil party).

Other areas, i dont know >.<.
So far:

From SoS im spoiling 20 Adamantite (Lvl 3) + 1 Orichalcum (Lvl 4), and a gemstone R (daily grind, 20-30mins, spoiling 85% of all monsters, give or take 100 monsters for daily quest). Spoil here is almost 1 per 5/6 monsters, solo grind (all spoil to me).

From GF, im getting Accessory Lvl 3, Weapon and Armor Lvl 3 more sparcely, and lvl 3 threads (some lvl 4 quality thread, sparcely too). Some Gemstone R (6 from all days), daily grind, 20-30mins, spoiling all mobs with mug (AoE party quest), give or take 200 daily monsters). Spoil here is almost 1 per 2 monsters, AoE grind (if i get a random not spoil party).

From Nornil's cave/SH2/Spicula daily, im getting lvl 3 threads (some lvl 4 quality thread), and nothing more, 30 minute grind, a lot of monsters (cant say precisely, im guessing 200?). Spoil here is similar to GF (1 per 2 monsters, AoE grind, random not spoil party).

Other areas, i dont know >.<.

I've made it my mission to find some place worth spoiling/plundering before the option of changing my main to another class. So far, nothing of value