Actually, pvp without summon and win is totally possible, you just need the skill to use wynn damage skill, proper timing, and of course overgeared armor and weap.. I already tried that, and in several match my winning rate pvp without summon is 70% win.. The good thing is in Lindvior, 4 mark skill cooldown will be decreased, the reuse time 4 mark in lindvior is 5 sec, and thats totally enough to kick all other class ***, in pvp without summon..
Just try this combo;
Mark of Fire
Mark of Weakness
Mark of Plague
Mark of Void
Mark of Trick
Mark Retriever
Invoke
Repeat all that skill in pvp in order,
And if you have some emergency like your enemy move too close to you, use all of emergency skills, like;
Exile
if that fail, use;
Mass Exile
If still fail, use;
Dimensional Binding,
And then you must run to make some space before attack your enemy again..
Repeat this and you will win in PVP WITHOUT SUMMON..
This guide will apply if you use robe set and acumen sa, at least have this sa, and then you can feel free to add another sa in your weapon, (and overgeared arm, weap, and jewel of course)..
Feel free to try this one once Lindvior has come, and then you will know, actually the strongest class in game right now is summoner.. :cool:
And dont forget to;
Enchant armor set minimum +4
Use The best set of armor like Twilight
Enchant weapon set minimum +4
Use the best set of weap like apocalypse
Enchant Accessory set minimum +4
Augment weapon and accessory with top grade life stone that you can afford..
Adding attribut to all of your armor and weap minimum Lvl 6
Enchant your mark skill minimum +4 and match it with your weapon attribut..
Use bos jewel pair, like, antharas earing, valakas necklacke, baium ring, and so on with the best you can afford..
With that you will be the king in pvp even without your summon..
Muwahahahahaha..
I still don't get the point of PvP without summons when you are a summoner
I just want to became an extraordinary summoner, thats all,
back before summoner major update, when summoner still can summon 4 servitor, this class became everyone favorite class.. Everyone wants to became summoner because they are totally strong.. But after summoner class get nerfed, everyone leave it, like summoner is became the weakest class in game at that time..
I know summoner is weak without their summon, summoner became summoner cause s/he can summon things..Without summon, summoner is totally useless.. So cause of that fact, i decided to not become mainstream summoner. I tried to strengthen my character, maximized all of the skill that i have, maximized every aspect in my character, even in the tiniest things..
Try not to depend without summon, make you become more strong, so when you decided to use summon in pvp, you will become totally unbeatable character, you can maximizing your self and your summon totally in pvp fight, there is no fear when one of your summons die, you can fight like always, cause you usually fight in pvp without summon..
Actually thats is my true intention to fight without summon, to strengthen mentallity and skills in pvp fight..
I still use my summon of course in pve and pvp with my close friend, but if i fight in pvp with someone that i didnt know, i prefer not to use my summon at all, to train myself.. :D
You don't need to shun your summons to be an extraordinary summoner. You're gimping your self-defense capabilities by not using a servitor, Transfer Pain and Servitor Barrier...
Try not to depend without summon, make you become more strong, so when you decided to use summon in pvp, you will become totally unbeatable character,
No, just because you play differently doesn't mean you will play better with something more. Will you learn how to time perfectly your summons skills ? No. Will you learn how to use Replace and move summons as needed ? No. Will you learn how to use Bear Aggro and Reaper AoE in the most efficient way ? No.
Considering that you have only 3 offensive abilities, 1 of which most classes can prevent its use and 2 of which have lengthy reuses as well as having no mobility, no tankiness and 3 long reuse control skills all of which you can't attack through, your only chances of victory are beating low level ret@rded players.
You also won't become a better summoner because you have no synergy with your summons because you never fight with them. So even if by God's grace you even manage to make level 97 you'll be put on the floor by everything that moves.
Muwahahahahaha...
Thank you for all of your advice.. :) I really appreciate all of that.. :*
But maybe myself is little different than the others.. So i choose this "totally odd" way to play this game..
I didnt say i dont use my summon after all, when i answer laby question i clearly declared i still used it, but restricted only to some people and in pve of course,
But i prefer to pvp with unsummoning mode when i played other player besides my close friend.. I still learning how to synchronized fully with my summon
The feeling when i pvp with other people in unsummoning mode is so refreshing, and the feeling will get even better when i win the fight.. Wahaha..
Maybe youre wondering that people that had beaten by me is totally ret@rted and noob, but that not correct, hehe :) 4 mark +mark retriever give decent damage, especially after lindvior come through.. now is still kinda sucks, i admit it..hehe., even with fully geared it is still has long enough cooldown..
I wonder how strong summoner after lindvior comes.. :3
:* 5s reuse..
Wynn with robe and mage weapon and without summons. Let's see do you have a chance?
Tyrr Warrior :He kills you with 3-5 hits. You need to lower his CP+HP with DoT marks+mark of fire+invoke.FAIL
Yul Archer : Too much skill power and skill damage. Feohs have BIG problem vs them and you think you can beat them with robe+mage weapon w/o summons?FAIL
Aeore Healer : You need to do them 10.000 hits and more (without summons) and still they will not die vs your DoT skills+mark of fire+invoke. Also they clean your curses so they are useless vs them.GL with this class. FAIL
Sigel Knight : Good Luck with this monster of defense and his cubic. Try to lower his HP+CP with your DoT skills+mark of fire+invoke. FAIL
Iss enchanter : He casts on himself Angel's Tough and no debuff can land on him (DoT,exile etc) and then he does Battle Rapsody and bb.. FAIL
Othel Rogue : A good Damage Dealer like Tyrr and Yul. He kills fast with critical blows and half kills and you have very low defense cause of robe and the missing Tranfer Pain and celestrial. FAIL
Feoh Wizard : mage has debuffs like wynn. Death Breath,Hell Binding etc. But mage's nukes has a lot more power than wynn's and ofc they r more and spammable. FAIL
And at last Wynn summoner w/o summons beats Wynn summoner w/ summons : In your dreams :)
And dont forget to;
Enchant armor set minimum +4
Use The best set of armor like Twilight
Enchant weapon set minimum +4
Use the best set of weap like apocalypse
Enchant Accessory set minimum +4
Augment weapon and accessory with top grade life stone that you can afford..
Adding attribut to all of your armor and weap minimum Lvl 6
Enchant your mark skill minimum +4 and match it with your weapon attribut..
Use bos jewel pair, like, antharas earing, valakas necklacke, baium ring, and so on with the best you can afford..
With that you will be the king in pvp even without your summon..
Muwahahahahaha..
Muwahahahahaha... Made me laugh.
Now I know why I was losing the pvps from 85-95... I skiped low/top R gear... If only I have read this guide then :(
PS: I 'm 99% sure this guy is "Veigar" from LoL ... "I AM EVIL... STOP LAUGHING"