Sigel Phoenix knight - (not QQ)

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well, i feel just good with my new class, i resist better than before indeed, and just did a few duels. But i've got some minds.

Did the agression power get nerfed just i pvp? Or also in pve? Because now for any reason i feel the bosses harder to keep them focus on me...

And the mass arrest? Well, it's a nice way to keep your pt safe even more. But 1 minute? :/
And i tested it on pvp/pve.

Unfurtunately it just have function on pve.

Tested against: tyrr 95, iss 87, yul 88, feo sts 88/9. (one time full buffed and one with no buffs)

None of the targets got arrested in any of the chances. I think it will not be that disturbing machine as it was in the past.




The SACRIFICE... I use it, yes, i use it LOL, but what about this skill.
On me? however it recovers 200hp.
-My M.atk does not affect the hp amount
-Recovery aura does not affect the hp amount
-BSS do not affect the hp amount
On party members? They laugh at me.
On my hatchling? Yeah, it is very useful! :-D
So, how can i improve this skill to make it a bit useful?



Anyway, the shield defense rate is great, and the phoenix spirit has an amazing beautiful animation skill and it's useful, specially with paper robe classes. I didn't test the other tanks spirits animations, i hope all of them have different ones :D



But at the moment i'm really worried about the agression power!

So, go ahead and post your opinions:
I'm glad that you like this class mate, because I'm really hearthbroken about it. My delusions were pretty much your same concerns.

Sacrifice for me is worthless. The help that you give to your party with this skill it's not enough to consider it useful. Simply, It doesen't make the difference, even if it's only a "supportive" ability.

Same as you about mass arrest.

My options left are Shillien Templar and Eva Templar. As you probably know ET is a resiliant tank, but the problem is that is just the same Sigel Knight with cube, nothing new. At least ST has a paralyze that has a good landing both pve and pvp.

I had the same feeling about the aggro. I also know that it was nerfed in pvp, but if the change applies also on the pve side, that really sucks... but will see about that.

Be the Phoenix Knight that i couldn't be, my friend :o
I'm glad that you like this class mate, because I'm really hearthbroken about it. My delusions were pretty much your same concerns.

Sacrifice for me is worthless. The help that you give to your party with this skill it's not enough to consider it useful. Simply, It doesen't make the difference, even if it's only a "supportive" ability.

Same as you about mass arrest.

My options left are Shillien Templar and Eva Templar. As you probably know ET is a resiliant tank, but the problem is that is just the same Sigel Knight with cube, nothing new. At least ST has a paralyze that has a good landing both pve and pvp.

I had the same feeling about the aggro. I also know that it was nerfed in pvp, but if the change applies also on the pve side, that really sucks... but will see about that.

Be the Phoenix Knight that i couldn't be, my friend :o

But you know what? I tested the eva's templar sigel and the healing cubic is just taking the same HP amount in the target. BUT, with one second more of "reuse". So may e the sacrifice could be fine to TRY to keep you alave as the cubic does... And if you have augment skill refresh... Well would be great!
But you know what? I tested the eva's templar sigel and the healing cubic is just taking the same HP amount in the target. BUT, with one second more of "reuse". So may e the sacrifice could be fine to TRY to keep you alave as the cubic does... And if you have augment skill refresh... Well would be great!

Difference is that the cubic will just do the heal on its own. You just summon it and forget about it.

Sacrifice you need to cast, so you are not only required to target and cast on yourself, but not be attacking as well.

The old sacrifice was absolutely superior simply because of how much you could have it restore on yourself per heal. The new one just isn't even close to the same, and really isn't a benefit to the tank themselves when compared to the healing cubic.
My two favorite tanks was all time sigel phoenix and evas templar before 85.
Phoneix for his undead control and eva for his speed and cubics.

For now i changed to eva's templar but not quite satisfied with it. However the cubics keeps you safe, i was in a k85 pt where the healer gone out of mana and RB completely and we were supposed to run around for 4 minutes, but half of the party died out. IF i would have been a phoenix knight at that point, i could have kept the party alive (sacrifice doesnt cost mp right ? )

This was one thing i considered rerolling to PK, the other thing is, by checking the new lv 99 instances, there are a dozen of undead mobs, some lv 95 insta has it too. Im pretty sure for pvp PK sucks bad, but hey if it will ever get back its undead crowd control abilities, it will be a totally fun and useful tank class to play.

This is my opinion
(...) IF i would have been a phoenix knight at that point, i could have kept the party alive (sacrifice doesnt cost mp right ? )



it dosnt cost mp .. thats true .. but you cant keep anyone alive with the phoenix heal .. at 85 its a single target heal for 1k (2k at 99)

it can be cast pretty fast, but atm i cant see much use for that skill.
What NC wants us to do with this class is a mystery to me...
I have phoenix knight 99 test pvp/skill, full buff

negative :
Provoking Shackle lv 4 - does not work, my lvl 99 testing at level 99-96 full buf /useless skill

Holy Sacrifice lv 4 - fixed heal -1600+2000K hp= 400 to himself /mass pvp useless skill

positive :
Phoenix Spirit lv4 - pdef mdef 6% for 10sec
Fortress Shield lv 4 - shield defense +15%
NC did not intend to make tank heals that work for mass pvp. They already possess such. If they had heals for mass PVP they would be unkilable on small scale pvp.
I have phoenix knight 99 test pvp/skill, full buff

negative :
Provoking Shackle lv 4 - does not work, my lvl 99 testing at level 99-96 full buf /useless skill

Holy Sacrifice lv 4 - fixed heal -1600+2000K hp= 400 to himself /mass pvp useless skill

positive :
Phoenix Spirit lv4 - pdef mdef 6% for 10sec
Fortress Shield lv 4 - shield defense +15%

I suppose the root part is useless but what about the hate part? Does it work?