It took longer than expected, but cheaters can run more than 3 clients already.
This is what is sad about this company: they implement stuff hoping to give a hard time to cheaters but it is bypassed in a matter of days, and all the other legit people are the ones who suffer. Gameguard and this joke 3 client per PC restriction are perfect examples.
NCSoft, I don't know what you are doing, but you are doing everything simple and plain wrong.
I find it very disgusting to play in official servers. At least NCWest ones.
It took longer than expected, but cheaters can run more than 3 clients already.
Longer than expected ? Servers were not already up people knew how to bypass it
This is what is sad about this company: they implement stuff hoping to give a hard time to cheaters but it is bypassed in a matter of days, and all the other legit people are the ones who suffer. Gameguard and this joke 3 client per PC restriction are perfect examples.
+1 on the part "legit people are screwed".
NCSoft, I don't know what you are doing, but you are doing everything simple and plain wrong.
They tried to implement something which could have been nice ... but they did it wrong
It took longer than expected, but cheaters can run more than 3 clients already.
This is what is sad about this company: they implement stuff hoping to give a hard time to cheaters but it is bypassed in a matter of days, and all the other legit people are the ones who suffer. Gameguard and this joke 3 client per PC restriction are perfect examples.
NCSoft, I don't know what you are doing, but you are doing everything simple and plain wrong.
I find it very disgusting to play in official servers. At least NCWest ones.
Good fight.
they can apply GREEDY algorithm to chart the entire network, and discover who have more than 3 clients asking for game access, so now they can ban/block ppl easily.
they can apply GREEDY algorithm to chart the entire network, and discover who have more than 3 clients asking for game access, so now they can ban/block ppl easily.
the problem is: if nc wants to ban/block them.
HolyOx told the real.
Now NCwest will able to oversee easier, the players if from a PC goes 4 or more clients the player is cheater.
So this can help to them save a lots of time in bot hunting.
Maybe it was more a like a "trap" like an "anti cheat" system.
But as HolyOx told from now the NC will have really easier job to ban the bots and cheaters, so I guess we have to see soon smaller or bigger ban hammers if the NC really wants to ban the bots.
Malena, the official server isn't a private one, here many players so sadly the farmer companies very motivated to return always and farm after sell the adena or even same with the cheaters.
On private servers these thinks isn't really exist also, because it doesn't take profit to them.
they can apply GREEDY algorithm to chart the entire network, and discover who have more than 3 clients asking for game access, so now they can ban/block ppl easily.
the problem is: if nc wants to ban/block them.
If they banned people for simply logging in 4-5 clients from one PC, they would lose a massive amount of income because even many truly legit people have found an easy work-around for this. I rarely run more than 3 clients although very often 3 I just prefer having the ability to if I need.
If they banned people for simply logging in 4-5 clients from one PC, they would lose a massive amount of income because even many truly legit people have found an easy work-around for this. I rarely run more than 3 clients although very often 3 I just prefer having the ability to if I need.
but if any LEGIT does that, he is clearly cheating and teasing what NCWest did want when they implememented that system, taking a serious advantages over others players. I think this is the point @HolyOx rose up.
Then to plain simple: if any LEGIT cheats, they can't be considered legits anymore. and deserve a punishment aswell. :rolleyes:
but if any LEGIT does that, he is clearly cheating and teasing what NCWest did want when they implememented that system, taking a serious advantages over others players. I think this is the point @HolyOx rose up.
Then to plain simple: if any LEGIT cheats, they can't be considered legits anymore. and deserve a punishment aswell. :rolleyes:
It's still about money sadly. That's my point. Also tempting a "legit" to find a work-around for something they have been able to do legitly for years is a bit ironic i think.
If they banned people for simply logging in 4-5 clients from one PC, they would lose a massive amount of income because even many truly legit people have found an easy work-around for this. I rarely run more than 3 clients although very often 3 I just prefer having the ability to if I need.
They will lose more income if people don't play the game because there are either too many bots or too many toons logged in, thus creating a poor playing environment for everyone. Yes, anyone caught violating the 3 client rule is in violation of terms and should be banned as such. Sick of people always trying to game the system. Whether they want to accept it or not, they ARE making it worse for everyone. Selfish, cheating ********.
It took longer than expected, but cheaters can run more than 3 clients already.
This is what is sad about this company: they implement stuff hoping to give a hard time to cheaters but it is bypassed in a matter of days, and all the other legit people are the ones who suffer. Gameguard and this joke 3 client per PC restriction are perfect examples.
NCSoft, I don't know what you are doing, but you are doing everything simple and plain wrong.
I find it very disgusting to play in official servers. At least NCWest ones.
Good fight.
This is the best thing ever, no more bots, ppl that have bots usualy log more then 3 account per computer then this make sense n stop that practice, I love it coz I didnt have more lags since that happened.
I cant see reasons of any truly legitimate player to login more than 3 accounts.
You log your box iss mb your heal box and play you "main" dd thats sound logical.
Boxing more dd's etc etc is simple unreasonable for "truly legit"
So yeah why not ban them all eather way legit or no he is still cheat.
I cant see reasons of any truly legitimate player to login more than 3 accounts.
You log your box iss mb your heal box and play you "main" dd thats sound logical.
Boxing more dd's etc etc is simple unreasonable for "truly legit"
So yeah why not ban them all eather way legit or no he is still cheat.
If play in dual box u don't play well u can focus on one thing n make ur job in partys good, thats why I think is the best thing to do.
If play in dual box u don't play well u can focus on one thing n make ur job in partys good, thats why I think is the best thing to do.
I spoke for the case of legit want to 3 box.like it or not many old school players like there independence .
I agree with you that boxing kill any game and active players are better than boxes.
However that going in deferent topic where you find boxes to be better geared than active or boxed healers healing better than active etc etc so lets don't take it so deep in to unskilled players and the frustration they bring in to groups
they can apply GREEDY algorithm to chart the entire network, and discover who have more than 3 clients asking for game access, so now they can ban/block ppl easily.
the problem is: if nc wants to ban/block them.
2 ppl on different computers but both having the same ip (family, net cafe ). do you ban both because each one opened 3 clients?
I cant see reasons of any truly legitimate player to login more than 3 accounts.
You log your box iss mb your heal box and play you "main" dd thats sound logical.
Boxing more dd's etc etc is simple unreasonable for "truly legit"
So yeah why not ban them all eather way legit or no he is still cheat.
lol really? You can't swap screens every 10 seconds and press one button and swap back? It's really not that hard. Also I can box a DD or ISS better than most players. I can't box an ISS for instance as good as I can play it live but still much better than most people play theirs live. I will take a live clannie or ally member over a box but will box something just to enter an instance even if i just have it follow and not attack at all just because it's more useful than many randoms which have attributed to many failed instances (tuna for instance).
I spoke for the case of legit want to 3 box.like it or not many old school players like there independence .
I agree with you that boxing kill any game and active players are better than boxes.
However that going in deferent topic where you find boxes to be better geared than active or boxed healers healing better than active etc etc so lets don't take it so deep in to unskilled players and the frustration they bring in to groups
My boxed iss or tank or wynn has better gear than even many of the clannies I invite and most definitely better than almost any random I would invite.
Cmon kids. Get serious. Lineage2 is all about boxes. If Nc start bans those that log over 3 clients as "cheaters", it will be the end of the game.
When a game goes FREE, its like the company tells you. "hey you can play 1 toon, but pay with real money to get high", OR play as you want, cheat, tc etc, until you get caught.
And if they ban all those that cheat, imagine the population the day after, it would be lower than the worse private server around.
Main, iss, dwarf, spoiler, mentee(s), cameras on Raids, maybe shop...
Cmon 70% of players loves to play this game just for that. Because they can box. 20% play the game cause they have money to spent on, and the rest 10% pretends not to be neither of the above. Well, they may have infinite time, who knows...
I definitely agree with EJ that focusing on one toon, will make you lvl faster, etc etc,
But the majority is not playing to go high and be heroes or the supa=pvpers,
They play just for fun. And changing a legit player to a "cheater" by implementing suddenly a rule, well. Drives players to this:
player: "what???? 3acc per pc?. Yeah right.... Talk to the hand...Cause i am not listening!"
And those players get much more frustrated when they see SAME BOT TRAINS TO BE ALIVE even after that parody-rule. "Bots are alive n kicking, but i dont have the right to have my shop n camera on????"
/show the finger
My boxed iss or tank or wynn has better gear than even many of the clannies I invite and most definitely better than almost any random I would invite.
Thats my point many boxes are better geared than active bored ignorant players want to go 99 on immortals and in some cases is better to box a dd , iss etc etc
Thats my point many boxes are better geared than active bored ignorant players want to go 99 on immortals and in some cases is better to box a dd , iss etc etc
A "live" player at 99 in immortal is called a "bot" plain and simple.
lol really? You can't swap screens every 10 seconds and press one button and swap back? It's really not that hard. Also I can box a DD or ISS better than most players. I can't box an ISS for instance as good as I can play it live but still much better than most people play theirs live. I will take a live clannie or ally member over a box but will box something just to enter an instance even if i just have it follow and not attack at all just because it's more useful than many randoms which have attributed to many failed instances (tuna for instance).
Still my point.i can go on and onon how good I am too and I can box heal better than many but isnt that the point.
The point is me you and many more we killing an all ready dead game by ignoring and leave out the new players by boxing ur better dd or brtter tank and we gonna stay again like before god me and my 2334 boxes to do daily.
And 1 account/pc will be fine by me.
A "live" player at 99 in immortal is called a "bot" plain and simple.
There is a tyrr or tank not sure dorf in rr on 97+ was try to convince everybody that his +7 immortals was better thsn any seraph.and he wanted to use appearance stone so he dont get kickdd from groups..
You tell me.he is bot or simple lazy ?
There is a tyrr or tank not sure dorf in rr on 97+ was try to convince everybody that his +7 immortals was better thsn any seraph.and he wanted to use appearance stone so he dont get kickdd from groups..
You tell me bit or simple lazy ?
Hmm.. I suppose the bonuses of having +7 would be better but still lazy yes. My +86666 TW set gives me more crit rate but +4 seraph gives me more Patk but with slasher I have max crit rate anyways. I suspect +7 immortal would not have more pdef than +4 seraph although +8 immortal might be close.
2 ppl on different computers but both having the same ip (family, net cafe ). do you ban both because each one opened 3 clients?
do u really think the protocols ll be the same for each pc kiddo?
"legit" and not...
Cmon kids. Get serious. Lineage2 is all about boxes. If Nc start bans those that log over 3 clients as "cheaters", it will be the end of the game.
When a game goes FREE, its like the company tells you. "hey you can play 1 toon, but pay with real money to get high", OR play as you want, cheat, tc etc, until you get caught.
And if they ban all those that cheat, imagine the population the day after, it would be lower than the worse private server around.
Main, iss, dwarf, spoiler, mentee(s), cameras on Raids, maybe shop...
Cmon 70% of players loves to play this game just for that. Because they can box. 20% play the game cause they have money to spent on, and the rest 10% pretends not to be neither of the above. Well, they may have infinite time, who knows...
I definitely agree with EJ that focusing on one toon, will make you lvl faster, etc etc,
But the majority is not playing to go high and be heroes or the supa=pvpers,
They play just for fun. And changing a legit player to a "cheater" by implementing suddenly a rule, well. Drives players to this:
player: "what???? 3acc per pc?. Yeah right.... Talk to the hand...Cause i am not listening!"
And those players get much more frustrated when they see SAME BOT TRAINS TO BE ALIVE even after that parody-rule. "Bots are alive n kicking, but i dont have the right to have my shop n camera on????"
/show the finger
the ban ll not affect me, i log my archer and my iss, and everytime i could, i just log my archer. so, i dont care, i prefrer the old system, u pay for the accounts u want have.