I cant stop laughing a the 14 parties that gathered together to kill this boss that died and dropped 6 miserable ítems.
On guy of the clan spent like 4 hours killing it!!!
The balance between the time you take to kill a boss of this and the drop doesnt exists.
Surely too many people are going to gather again to kill it :D
Orpen is now considered an epic raid boss, according to l2on.net it has 114,000,000 hp. With the proper setup on a 6 man destroyer party I'm guessing that this raid could be done in a matter of minutes if not less.
6 destroyers with dynasty blunt 300 with crit SA, 1 oop iss with br, 1 SK @ Lvl 83. Pain of shilling, br, newbie buffs frenzy zealot kill.
2nd party, tank, healer
Like the old days. When tiat could be 4-5 shooted by a proper Titan.
Orpen is now considered an epic raid boss, according to l2on.net it has 114,000,000 hp. With the proper setup on a 6 man destroyer party I'm guessing that this raid could be done in a matter of minutes if not less.
6 destroyers with dynasty blunt 300 with crit SA, 1 oop iss with br, 1 SK @ Lvl 83. Pain of shilling, br, newbie buffs frenzy zealot kill.
2nd party, tank, healer
Like the old days. When tiat could be 4-5 shooted by a proper Titan.
Orfen has ALWAYS been an Epic Boss...not "Now Considered"
Core
Orfen
AQ
Zaken
Antharas
Frintezza
Baium
Freya
Valakas are all the Epic Bosses since as long as i can remember and i started 6-13-2004
the newly added Epic Bosses are Octavis and Istina
Orfen has ALWAYS been an Epic Boss...not "Now Considered"
Core
Orfen
AQ
Zaken
Antharas
Frintezza
Baium
Valakas are all the Epic Bosses since as long as i can remember and i started 6-13-2004
the newly added Epic Bosses are Octavis and Istina
The Epic bosses were typically featured in their own update. Istina and Octavus really wasn't. If anything the recent "epic" bosses are trasken then tauti then lindvior.
The Epic bosses were typically featured in their own update. Istina and Octavus really wasn't. If anything the recent "epic" bosses are trasken then tauti then lindvior.
yes this is correct...my only point was to the OP that Orfen is not "Now Considered" to be an Epic Boss...it always has been since its arrival in L2
I dont care if its eppic or not, why should I bother to kill it if the drop its funnier than Chevy Chase?
I cant stop laughing about :D
What a ****** game :D
i was laughing too, but at the guy who kept on shouting in all towns for 3 hours that orfen is up and everyone to bring their level 62 noobs to come kill it.
funny think what you get as a result when one real DD can replace replace an entire party of box bots with bad gear.
we used to farm her with our clan: 2 parties and got earring drop every other raid and everyone knew what to do.
now with 1 hr newbie buffs and sonatas it really shouldnt be a problem anymore... i guess you (the OP) didnt shine either :rolleyes:
i was laughing too, but at the guy who kept on shouting in all towns for 3 hours that orfen is up and everyone to bring their level 62 noobs to come kill it.
funny think what you get as a result when one real DD can replace replace an entire party of box bots with bad gear.
we used to farm her with our clan: 2 parties and got earring drop every other raid and everyone knew what to do.
now with 1 hr newbie buffs and sonatas it really shouldnt be a problem anymore... i guess you (the OP) didnt shine either :rolleyes:
You should tell that to the 14 parties who spent hours hitting like idiots :D
i was laughing too, but at the guy who kept on shouting in all towns for 3 hours that orfen is up and everyone to bring their level 62 noobs to come kill it.
funny think what you get as a result when one real DD can replace replace an entire party of box bots with bad gear.
we used to farm her with our clan: 2 parties and got earring drop every other raid and everyone knew what to do.
now with 1 hr newbie buffs and sonatas it really shouldnt be a problem anymore... i guess you (the OP) didnt shine either :rolleyes:
Raid is not same as before . Its was greatly boosted but still you are right about that 60 lvl toons without any gear coming and hit for like 100 damage. :D Yes in this case you need 20 partys to kill it.
But now imagine coming 1 dd and hit for 30k each hit ? ) so basicly he can outdamage all this command channel alone :)
btw orfen cannot be debuffed as far as i seen oO
isn't orfen was ~50 lvl ? same as core. if yes no wonder why you don't get drop :) same as with baium. if you want good drop dd's must be 77lvl max ;) 78 it's green so drop chances goes down by 15% or so, on 80 it's light blue, so drop chances decreased by 30%. because of this, few times we even get ring from baium what drops 100% (pre-God) also no earring from antharas :) twice maybe as i remember. and i don't talk about frintezza when it was 79lvl :)
It seems that most people in this topic didn't try the "new" orfen before talking about it saying it's easy :>
Yes... but my point is that, why should someone bother to kill a boss like this or any other mob like this when it doesnt drop a thing!?
I am trying to figure whats on the game designers mind but I cant do it.
The drop its like a bonus for participating and this bosses dont drop a thing so why should anyone bother?
I cant stop laughing a the 14 parties that gathered together to kill this boss that died and dropped 6 miserable ítems.
On guy of the clan spent like 4 hours killing it!!!
The balance between the time you take to kill a boss of this and the drop doesnt exists.
Surely too many people are going to gather again to kill it :D
Sorry, but if you expect to drop the bottle, you should take ppl who are +-2 lvl from the boss, not +8 levels ;)
Sorry, but if you expect to drop the bottle, you should take ppl who are +-2 lvl from the boss, not +8 levels ;)
You go, test it, and then we talk again.
For me, nah, I wont waste my time in a ****** boss like this ones. I know l2, you shake hands with a L2 staff member and you have to count your fingers, I knew, after tezza, that this was going to be a crappy boss and yes, it was :D
I did freya post update and she dropped some usual goodies. The thing is there are times when all we got was scrolls of some variety, lifestones and maybe a armor drop and that was it. It completely random what you get. You won't get freya necklace every time, or a tiara or cloak.
That time we got the ice tiara,vesper circlet,some lifestones and one other item I forget. Not really a big pay day.
Yes... but my point is that, why should someone bother to kill a boss like this or any other mob like this when it doesnt drop a thing!?
I am trying to figure whats on the game designers mind but I cant do it.
The drop its like a bonus for participating and this bosses dont drop a thing so why should anyone bother?
Well of course it won't drop epic + bottle each time you do it. It would be far too easy x)
Epic bosses usually have a whole area of the game or special quests or not normal just hit hit hit kill of field raid bosses. Essentially any boss that is not a field boss is an epic boss.
aq/orfen/baium/frint have all a chance now to drop a soul bottle which will significantly boost their epics so yeah they're absolutely worth farming, saying they're not means you have no clue about the new epic stats..
and ya cause of the upgrade said raids were made quite a bit harder duh..
aq/orfen/baium/frint have all a chance now to drop a soul bottle which will significantly boost their epics so yeah they're absolutely worth farming, saying they're not means you have no clue about the new epic stats..
and ya cause of the upgrade said raids were made quite a bit harder duh..
Nah it doesnt.
Epic bosses usually have a whole area of the game or special quests or not normal just hit hit hit kill of field raid bosses. Essentially any boss that is not a field boss is an epic boss.
Baium, Frint and QA are most definitely worth raiding. Those enhanced epics are very valuable and in some cases better than the best epics people have now.
The 4+ hours of my time for a korean random chance at soul bottle for a frint necklace ... Sorry 4 hours of my time is a lot more valuable for 1 person out of 35 maybe getting a bottle.
You got to be dreaming if you think its a common drop, nevermind you have to have all 90 toons to even do frint which nerf's the drop rate, really smart of ncsoft.
The 4+ hours of my time for a korean random chance at soul bottle for a frint necklace ... Sorry 4 hours of my time is a lot more valuable for 1 person out of 35 maybe getting a bottle.
You got to be dreaming if you think its a common drop, never-mind you have to have all 90 toons to even do frint which nerf's the drop rate, really smart of ncsoft.
The drop rate isn't bad (thought it was somwehere between 20 and 50% too lazy to look atm). Those new epics are really powerful and with the right setup/cc cp/looting rules it could be very beneficial and be done with 3-4 parties (2 live plus 1 box per person easily). Anyways for many this is still a massive undertaking in coordination.
Draecke you forget to mention that soul epics have m.def like R95 jews (not like Istina/Octavis but not like S-grade). Also you write wrong bonuses - check right ones ingame.
But I think it's not important if ppl farming raids on forum xd
Atleast some good news for feohs :D now waiting for magic Counter critical thou :P . And after this viva la feoh crit damage 30-50k like yuls :D
How is having to rely on a mediocre drop rate for a raid boss that takes 4 hours to kill which you will have to fight other people in your raid group which most people will never have a good thing?
This is **** for mages.
A good thing would be a reward of this jewelry for completing a new soloable epic quest series.
I realize that I am a terrible L2 player for refusing to desire excludability and rivalry.
You are right. As a reward for Epic Quest each player must get bless valakas, bless antharas, lindvior, tauti and earth wyrm.
I guess that topic starter come to Orfen solo and belive that can easy get free soul orfen earring. But faced with zerg of farmers, got PKed and come to QQ on forum.
In extended patch notes (Korean version) it was told something like "we change Orfen/AQ/Baium to prevent top clans from locking this raid bosses and now any player can come and get a chance to get epic".
exotic its not the bosses are more difficult just more time consuming.
I rather a boss take the same amount of time but need strageies to kill it then you know we cant really think so we will just give 10x the hp and add 1 more drop to it...
I don't have 4 hours to sit there and hold down the same button, its borning as hell.
Exactly Yunalesa, no boss should take more than an hour
For real I beat xbox or ps games in maybe 5 hours the whole game. No boss fight last for more than 10 minutes if it does game probably not going to sell well lol