As the Dimensional Sieges would suggest, the servers of Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien are more or less dead. Aden and Giran are owned by two Chronos clans while Rune and Goddard are owned by two Naia clans. The servers of Bartz and Magmeld do not even participate in the event and the only clan that shows up from Shilien has less population than either of the four clans from Chronos or Naia. Their server populations are several thousand less than the populations of Chronos/Naia and from what is told to me from said servers is that they are uncompetitive. On top of all this, seven of the top eight battle tournament teams were from the servers of Chronos and Naia. I would suggest that these uncompetitive servers of Bartz, Shilien, and Magmeld be merged into Chronos and Naia depending on their time zone difference with the two main servers.
1. Ally the big side of naia, makes agregement to not touch themselves
2. takes Aden, try hard to not allow other servers to even get castles.
3. Make post in forum about servers with less population not being competitive
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1. Destroy competition at all by using the most advantage possible from 3rd party software.
2. makes 200 ppl clan to figth 30 ppl clan
3. play in death server with 5k players online. Log in game to stand 15 hours in rune and consider yourself good in the game while improving ur ** widgets
4. make post in forum asking to merge the people you called "uncompetitive" servers into chronos in order to repeat the same.
g00d one :D did nova and sh recruit their whole servers and need more ppl to fight with ?oO
I bet those other servers don't come to dim sieges since nova + sh numbers outnumber naia ( proof ? renovation took RR into clan to have zerg and sh handhold with whole server and took best groups to sh loooong time ago ) and other server who would never handhold vs anyone .
Just check how many servers korea have and how many lol naeu and ask yourself WHY
The facts remain that the severs of Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are uncompetitive and need to be merged though. The numbers argument is invalid due to the #BattleTournament results. Nova brought 61 people to last Dimensional Siege when a clan can hold ~200. That is a third of maximum clan activity.
The facts remain that the severs of Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are uncompetitive and need to be merged though. The numbers argument is invalid due to the #BattleTournament results.
Do you think that clans after server merge will become competetive ?:D
are you freakin kidding me ?
As I said before did nova and sh invited already whole server and don't have anyone else to merge with or what is your point ?:)
because if you think that dh or any enemy of nova will ally with any clans of magmelt shillen bartz you are so WRONG it will be totaly different sh and nova will invited them making what ?
As I said go check how many servers is in korea and THINK why :))
The facts remain that the severs of Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are uncompetitive and need to be merged though. The numbers argument is invalid due to the #BattleTournament results. Nova brought 61 people to last Dimensional Siege when a clan can hold ~200. That is a third of maximum clan activity.
How do you expect people 97-99 to kill you guys 99/99 with insane scripts? I looked into your video martel, you guys have scripts on potions even when potions are not on a skillbar… Plus naia and chronos servers have people with pvp gear and weapons, while Bartz server has no one even close with that level.
As the Dimensional Sieges would suggest, the servers of Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien are more or less dead. Aden and Giran are owned by two Chronos clans while Rune and Goddard are owned by two Naia clans. The servers of Bartz and Magmeld do not even participate in the event and the only clan that shows up from Shilien has less population than either of the four clans from Chronos or Naia. Their server populations are several thousand less than the populations of Chronos/Naia and from what is told to me from said servers is that they are uncompetitive. On top of all this, seven of the top eight battle tournament teams were from the servers of Chronos and Naia. I would suggest that these uncompetitive servers of Bartz, Shilien, and Magmeld be merged into Chronos and Naia depending on their time zone difference with the two main servers.
Like I said before the system of Dimensional Siege will never work properly in USwest. Server transfers destroyed it long before this kind of siege came out. Last one year the majority who took 99 level on those three servers left to Cronos or Naia for top PvP and they took with them the best gear off that particularly server. Those three servers will never be able to stop the highly concentrated 99 levels and very well geared players from Cronos and Naia. Not even in a hundred years. SO yes they are not competative enough. What else you expect? 99 levels in seraph sets to defeat people in full armor sets +6 +8 and even +10/+11 I heard in Cronos alone? Some even full Dark already? haha yeah right.
Four Castles are taken by exactly like you said the four best Clans of Naia/Cronos. So no point spending more time for other players to come since it is impossible to win with ~30/40 players. Unless they will add one or two more Castles so even the lowest powered clans can fight their equals to take one Castle. But not like this. Since Rune/Aden Clans can easily leave castle undefended for an hour with this low activity and go with 100 players and destroy the fun where two 30/40 small seized clans are fighting for one castle.
I already said right after the very 1st Dimensional Siege it will be the end of it soon. So we all have to live with it.
Since Cronos and Naia take Castle where they can get Amaranthine Dark Stones. Do not expect any of those three Server ever to show up ever again in Dimensional Siege. Cronos/Naia will only get stronger Gear-wise. Where the other three Server will stay at same level without reward to gain up in PvP-gear. The gap will only increase Cronos/Naia vs the other three servers.
Just ask yourself the following question: You think if Cronos/Naia are the only ones getting Dark Weapon Stones and Dark Armor Stones. It will be more or less competative versus the other three Servers? Less ofcourse. Since you Players get better gear and the others nothing to even keep up to compete against you. Simple right.
Bartz market is dead so don't expect gearing up competition from us here unless people transfer gear back from Cronos again. /joke system that NCsoft created. Most of my friends and Top Parties from Bartz already left to Cronos. So ofcourse no competiton expected from us here. They can't even kill Antharas yet. 3 Clans tried 126 Players. /failed
Imagine If there was no server transfer all top parties were kinda evenly splitted up with decent gear on all five servers. Maybe then this system would have been competative and very nice. But NOT now! :)
There is no Server Balance with this new System. Also Gear-wise everything nearly left from the low-populated servers. The gear that is here nearly makes no difference at all to compete versus Cronos/Naia, so GF! :)
GL in Dimensional Siege! Mybe NCsoft should change the limit to 50 Players each Clan and see if it will be more competative again for other Clans to come again? Server Merge will not effect Dimensional Siege at all. It is the people who need to sacrifice their level 11 clan and merge into another one. Since Bartz is low populated this will never happen. Since PvP will almost die instantly here. And everybody hates 1 person in another clan. So yes we got 5 parties clans everywhere. This is the only thing which keeps PvP in Bartz equally, spreaded you know. ;)
Yeah and go back to not being able to log in because the servers are overloaded during that time? That's why these servers were created. Now there's crying for merges.
Honestly I don't think I ever face palmed this hard before.
LA set
+6 r99 chest
+6 r99 helm
+6 r99 pants
+6 r99 gloves
+8 r99 boots
this is impossible to get on the other 3 servers??????????
now lets sum up them jewels
+5 octa necklace
+4 istina earring
+5 antharas earring
+5 octavis ring
+5 istina ring
this above again impossible to get on the other 3 servers i assume?
weapon yes i agree u wont get what i have but u dont need to have wtf super enchant weapon to win
+14 r99 bow
+3 str hat
+15 str dyes
+ dark castle cloak
+6 power shirt(even istina/octavis shirt is better)
desire talisman
now as u can see 0 blessed items.. apart from my bow nothing is imba or impossible, i have seen archers with same equip as me with less enchanted bow do equal damage on skill spam on minds eye and rhaps i might blast u away easily but skill spam doesnt take super high enchanted weapon.
so this no gear excuse is ******** every single server can farm valakas/antharas/antqueen/baium/orfen/tauti/frintezza
so its obviously not this..
face it people on NA servers give up so ****** quick.. first pvp we had vs nova we lost horrible fine we didnt had proper CP's up but we didnt go like well next dim siege we wont pvp them we just did if we lose again we learn from mistakes but we didnt lost so it was basicly 2-2 if u want numbers after 2 dim sieges.
3rd dim siege(last saturday) we won once lost once and tbh even if we lost all these pvp's are far more fun then anything else.. cus if nova makes 1 error sh will slaughter them if sh makes 1 error nova will slaughter them its fun...
and your more then welcome to join this FFA pvp or setup 7v7 vs any clan if u wanna pvp some1
its not like every sh/nova pt is superior to everyone i understand oly warriors from both sides will most likely **** the living **** out of you cus of massive pot spam but not every1 in nova nor sh is like this.. so get over it
slaughter the newbies from sh/nova and then **** the big boys or **** the big boys and then the free frags get a tactic going and try it out :) if you fail to bad try again its not a shame to die..
As the Dimensional Sieges would suggest, the servers of Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien are more or less dead. Aden and Giran are owned by two Chronos clans while Rune and Goddard are owned by two Naia clans. The servers of Bartz and Magmeld do not even participate in the event and the only clan that shows up from Shilien has less population than either of the four clans from Chronos or Naia. Their server populations are several thousand less than the populations of Chronos/Naia and from what is told to me from said servers is that they are uncompetitive. On top of all this, seven of the top eight battle tournament teams were from the servers of Chronos and Naia. I would suggest that these uncompetitive servers of Bartz, Shilien, and Magmeld be merged into Chronos and Naia depending on their time zone difference with the two main servers.
lol, you guys have to come to magmeld for a month or 2 to spank these Genoscrubs, you have to see how they are trying to BDS on a dead server..
Your boy piderman thinks he is superman now that the nova *** isnt lodged in him anymore, same with all the little scrublets.. it will be so funny to chase them outta magmeld like you did from chronos
Its a good topic to talk about and give feedback but since no member of the NCWest staff will ever read this nor give a **** i find it quite useless to imagine a possible scenario of a merge, i would like it too, maybe not merge in chronos or naia but a merge between bartz-magmeld-shilen. Dont know actually.
To bump this thread up and maybe get some attention we should say to NCWest charge 100 NCCoin per character for the merge purpose or something.
see redmen, compared to koreans your gear is really nothing great so it really depends on server population. the lower the population is, the lower is the chance to get geared is. didnt fs/enmity/h.o.e tried one of the dragons and failed? what to expect from other server where they dont even get such amount of players? lets forget the jewelry, do you see r99 in other places other than dragons and oly? also lets not forget that top clans on servers set the standards for pvp/pve for the rest of the server... therefore the quality of the servers is like that.
To bump this thread up and maybe get some attention we should say to NCWest charge 100 NCCoin per character for the merge purpose or something.
Why should characters be charged to merge servers? They didn't chose to do that thus shouldn't be forced to pay, the game is free and that would be forcing someone to pay in order to play. You aren't forced to spend any money, you have the choice.
I honestly feel if there is ever a merge that server transfers should be half off or free so that people can pick where they wanna be.
And yes I agree the scripters are the ones who will always win, you can't expect to fight them and beat them since they are doing multiple actions that no human can do at once. Yes they will call you a noob and pat themselves on the back for being a cheater.
LA set
+6 r99 chest
+6 r99 helm
+6 r99 pants
+6 r99 gloves
+8 r99 boots
15b+ if you are lucky in Bartz
+5 octa necklace 8.5b
+4 istina earring 7.5b
+5 antharas earring 20b+
+5 octavis ring 7.5b
+5 istina ring 5b
+14 r99 bow 100b+ DEWR
+3 str hat 2b
+15 str dyes 15b+
+ dark castle cloak Free
+6 power shirt(even istina/octavis shirt is better) NCoin or 2b+
desire talisman 2.5b spended average (if you are lucky)
Naia = NOT Bartz Economy
Antharas/Valakas/Lindvior/Trasken unable to farm in Bartz
Any piece of Gear & Epics taken on Bartz almost 75% of the cases has been taken by transfer from Cronos to Bartz cheaper with BEWR bonus serial codes on ALTs in designated Servers.
You think any random without CP can take this gear you got in a Legit fashioned way here in Bartz? You do the math. 1% in our Server is geared up this way. In Cronos it might be ~33%.
R99 Armor Prices Unidentified in Bartz
Eternal LA 4b
Eternal BP 3b
Eternal Tunic 2b
DEWR 5b+
Our Economy sucks due to low-population vs. farming vs. drops. :(
see redmen, compared to koreans your gear is really nothing great so it really depends on server population. the lower the population is, the lower is the chance to get geared is. didnt fs/enmity/h.o.e tried one of the dragons and failed? what to expect from other server where they dont even get such amount of players? lets forget the jewelry, do you see r99 in other places other than dragons and oly? also lets not forget that top clans on servers set the standards for pvp/pve for the rest of the server... therefore the quality of the servers is like that.
+1 for Bartz
Bartz 5 x R99 Weapon in AH
Retributer/Thrower 7.5b+ atm
This is really SAD! Only 5 x R99 Weapons total in AH for big Prices! For weeks I did not even saw any Eternal Stockings in AH. I do not even want to know the price if they dropped somewhere. :(
Merging the servers brings new opportunity and a better economy to the previous servers. Sure some people sink, but a lot swim and prosper to make the game a better environment for the active people of both servers. Merging the three noncompetitive servers of Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien together is a definite idea though. I would prefer higher chronos/naia activity since those servers aren't going anywhere ever. As everyone has posted in this thread...those three servers are a baron wasteland and a merge needs to happen to make them more competitive.
Actually those three servers have no competitive gameplay in their own sieges...or field pvp at all, castles in siege are abandoned literally, a clan with one party holding castles because there is no sides and they do their own hand holding.
But wont merge because it has enough people to keep it alive(traffic) and many ncoin buyers.
So no, i dont think youll see any kind of merge for a while, for now. Because for merge what it really matters is the traffic and income.
LA set
+6 r99 chest
+6 r99 helm
+6 r99 pants
+6 r99 gloves
+8 r99 boots
this is impossible to get on the other 3 servers??????????
now lets sum up them jewels
+5 octa necklace
+4 istina earring
+5 antharas earring
+5 octavis ring
+5 istina ring
this above again impossible to get on the other 3 servers i assume?
weapon yes i agree u wont get what i have but u dont need to have wtf super enchant weapon to win
+14 r99 bow
+3 str hat
+15 str dyes
+ dark castle cloak
+6 power shirt(even istina/octavis shirt is better)
desire talisman
now as u can see 0 blessed items.. apart from my bow nothing is imba or impossible, i have seen archers with same equip as me with less enchanted bow do equal damage on skill spam on minds eye and rhaps i might blast u away easily but skill spam doesnt take super high enchanted weapon.
so this no gear excuse is ******** every single server can farm valakas/antharas/antqueen/baium/orfen/tauti/frintezza
so its obviously not this..
face it people on NA servers give up so ****** quick.. first pvp we had vs nova we lost horrible fine we didnt had proper CP's up but we didnt go like well next dim siege we wont pvp them we just did if we lose again we learn from mistakes but we didnt lost so it was basicly 2-2 if u want numbers after 2 dim sieges.
3rd dim siege(last saturday) we won once lost once and tbh even if we lost all these pvp's are far more fun then anything else.. cus if nova makes 1 error sh will slaughter them if sh makes 1 error nova will slaughter them its fun...
and your more then welcome to join this FFA pvp or setup 7v7 vs any clan if u wanna pvp some1
its not like every sh/nova pt is superior to everyone i understand oly warriors from both sides will most likely **** the living **** out of you cus of massive pot spam but not every1 in nova nor sh is like this.. so get over it
slaughter the newbies from sh/nova and then **** the big boys or **** the big boys and then the free frags get a tactic going and try it out :) if you fail to bad try again its not a shame to die..
PAY to win, 'till you die, 'till the light dies in your eyes
PAY to win, take it all, just keep fighting till you fall
Day by day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in
Let another round begin, PAY to win
Yeah, PAY, yeah, win
PAY to win, 'till you die, 'till the light dies in your eyes
PAY to win, take it all, just keep fighting till you fall
Day by day, kickin' all the way, I'm not cavin' in
Let another round begin, PAY to win
Yeah, PAY, yeah, win
Merging the servers brings new opportunity and a better economy to the previous servers. Sure some people sink, but a lot swim and prosper to make the game a better environment for the active people of both servers. Merging the three noncompetitive servers of Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien together is a definite idea though. I would prefer higher chronos/naia activity since those servers aren't going anywhere ever. As everyone has posted in this thread...those three servers are a baron wasteland and a merge needs to happen to make them more competitive.
Do you even understand what u're saying? Every possible location you can think about will be populated with bots. What type of advantages can you possibly think of?
I'm deaf and blind after today's siege on Bartz. People on auto assist/follow/potions with a population 160+ could not withstand pt of 6 people. Total score 160 kills and 57 deaths
:eek:
I'm deaf and blind after today's siege on Bartz. People on auto assist/follow/potions with a population 160+ could not withstand pt of 6 people. Total score 160 kills and 57 deaths
:eek:
to fight against nova u need few and pro ppl, numbers wont work.
As the Dimensional Sieges would suggest, the servers of Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien are more or less dead. Aden and Giran are owned by two Chronos clans while Rune and Goddard are owned by two Naia clans. The servers of Bartz and Magmeld do not even participate in the event and the only clan that shows up from Shilien has less population than either of the four clans from Chronos or Naia. Their server populations are several thousand less than the populations of Chronos/Naia and from what is told to me from said servers is that they are uncompetitive. On top of all this, seven of the top eight battle tournament teams were from the servers of Chronos and Naia. I would suggest that these uncompetitive servers of Bartz, Shilien, and Magmeld be merged into Chronos and Naia depending on their time zone difference with the two main servers.
You claim that those 3 servers are dead yet Chronos is also dead. Yes, it has a big population (half of it bot trains) but there's barely 4-5 competitive pvp clans. And Chronos has been a boring 1-sided pve fest for a year now.
TBH what ncsoft needs to do to bring more revenue in is...
a) merge current servers
b) release new servers (with no transfers for one year or so)
That way total # of servers remains the same, but a lot of people in enjoy the rush to 99//drama it entails and it brings a lot of new people back. Not to mention people buy runes, which helps ncsoft ;o
It provides an area for people to level up//compete without ++++ gear etc. Many people are put off coming back due to the fact that what do they have to compete against 99/99/80/80 with blessed r99 + 16 :D
There is always the rush to 99 and to try dominate on that server, which people enjoy; TBH they should merge Bartz//Magmeld//Shilen together and just take a middle ground on server time. ATM Shilen pvp sucks if you are European as most pvp happens at 7-10 am or 12midnight - 3am, cause of high Viet/BR population
Good luck with armor and weapons on new server. As you mby know, there is almost 0 drop seraph/eternal/amarantine. I think, is more easy get equip on old servers instead of on new one.
well, on shilien we had nice pvp at castle yday, but the main problem if we wanna face naia/chronos is the gear.
If we add that with next update u won't be able to take r99 from oly manager with fame/tokens, the gap between the servers will increase even more, unless they fix this crafting system that atm is quite impossible
I offer WIPE OUT all server lets start from start ! :D btw martelx You win the game okay ,
now LEAVE THIS GAME PLZ ! Let pplz enjoy it and take with you Naia scripters aswell.
I offer WIPE OUT all server lets start from start ! :D btw martelx You win the game okay ,
now LEAVE THIS GAME PLZ ! Let pplz enjoy it and take with you Naia scripters aswell.
+1 for complete wipe, plus they have to kill all bots, and lets see how population from 15k people will drop to 2-3k. Wipe it all, lets have some fun.
I actually like this idea.I'm from shilen server and i dont think there is 1k active ppl around, the rest are bot parties farming 24/7. Why have 5 servers just for the bots to farm and sell adena?At least if they were all put together in 2 servers people would be forced to pk/kill the bot parties to farm and do their quests cause they would be doubled at least in each spot.
IMO those who ask for wipe should pool money for the massive refunds NCSoft will have to pay and when they see the sum they will stop whining.
It's NC problem… They allow people to bot, make money trading in the first place, now it's time to make a refund to legit people + moral compensation. :p
There should be question (for NCsoft) - How to bring more people in to game instead of let's merge. But as we all know, NC dont care about people.
Honestly, i dont think merge is solution.
Putting the bad management such as letting bots rule the servers, etc... L2 doesn't have any strength to attract new players anymore. It is a slow dying game even in Korea.
Asking a new player to come to L2 nowadays is the same as asking you to stop using PC and start using a typewriter. It is the worst game when it comes to new player friendly. L1 was much more new player friendly than L2, but it was completely ignored in west due to its old graphics, although L1 is the biggest success of NCSoft.
Aion is the second most successful game from NC, I don't like factions, but Aion is much more player friendly and is a much more balanced game than L2, that is why Aion is the second-third success of NC(sometimes Blade & Soul comes to second, sometimes Aion becomes 2nd).
In short: there is no update that can make L2 attractive again, only a TOTALLY new game can do it.
would be so hard, someone from support, simply download the most 3r software used and need the NcSoft account to log, and use the infos of heros and initially log into in this 3rd software that everyone knows. NCsoft is so obvious to know who uses 3rd software, this is my idea for the best program scripts.
I believe that 90% of all heros from all server will be banned...
But the true is...they are the most that make payment in store, eBay, etc...
To the guy saying price are insane on Bartz : Well seeing the price you listed, everything is ... 10% more expensive than on Naia. Only so.
To the guy wanting new server without transfer : why do you think it would work ? Drop are ******, you are going to see people on immortal until the end
To xLetram : merging people won't make people better, and it may only give them more numbers to zerg some raids, but this won't work due to time difference.
Money for what? Any money spent was on consumables and service type items. You have no hard goods. Only real thing any of us have invested that matters is time played. I paid for 3 accounts from 2004 til F2P. I consider that money gone for the services received. The time is my loss...I would expect not a penny back. Any NC coin I purchased was for consumables.......consumed. I would again not expect a penny back. I would personally love a wipe so everyone could start fresh with the new rules etc, and see how we all do. But in reality, it is what it is, and I'm cool with what we have.
I see no value in a merger to Naia or Chronos.....maybe just combine the others if they're so dead. I have no personal experience in the other servers, so I don't know how dead they really are.... I just know I don't want them in Chronos lol.
I'm a bit confused. The dynamic of Chronos was half decent until you guys decided to zerg up and recruit everyone to win. Now you complain about not having anything to do or anyone to fight....? I wonder why that is. Just remember why servers are the way they are (at least chronos) before making such posts :/
pvping with top clans from other servers should be enough motivation imo..
not saying you should fight Nova or SH but why not fight Max or DH or one of the others ?
Server merger might work but not into either Chronos or Naia as those are near max every day.. after such merger a new poll for server time will need to be done though..
there should be more pvp on the new server until it re balances itself once again and then we'll see the same cycle again cause top players will always move to either Chronos or Naia at one point and taking their top gear with them..
Motivation to fight the same people I fight everyday or fight a clan with more than three times my size on a daily basis. Losing to zergs doesn't really do much for activity.
same people you fight everyday ? you are the zerg on magmeld now lol.... you allied with what ? Desperadoes ? Usual Suspects ? Lions ? Seal ? you also cannibalized anything from any decent clan, god knows what/who else lol..... who do you really fight now ? you just farm crap all day long there is no decent pvp on Lagmeld....
+1 for complete wipe, plus they have to kill all bots, and lets see how population from 15k people will drop to 2-3k. Wipe it all, lets have some fun.
+ 9999999999999999999
Dimencional sieg or sieg of boters/scripters
ppl bored ? why dont play without 3rd party program ?
same people you fight everyday ? you are the zerg on magmeld now lol.... you allied with what ? Desperadoes ? Usual Suspects ? Lions ? Seal ? you also cannibalized anything from any decent clan, god knows what/who else lol..... who do you really fight now ? you just farm crap all day long there is no decent pvp on Lagmeld....
What? Allied with who? Theres a huge difference between being ally and not allowing DV to take a castle(call zerg to a 6 parties clan is no so correct). We hold aden with 4 parties the rest of our ppl was smashing dv/max everywhere else :D. Cmon ur max/dv/ah/pg/diabolavia ally is bigger enough since max and dv can gather 150+ ppl. The fact that dv cant even scratch doors at aden with only 4 parties there say pretty much how good dv is. Or u will say now that was more than 4 pts at aden? :). Get real and stop say we did cannibalize anything, we didnt make mass recruit like max/dv did maybe thats the trick to dont have a trash clan?
I don't have allies with anyone and don't ask people for help. When people however ask ME for help to fight against MAX/DV I usually assist them. Difference between them needing help and me needing help.
cute but enough about your local server drama, lets talk about avoiding pvp cause u chose to ignore other clans here like DH or Fear.. why not fight them ?
also if you're afraid to get zerged pm Dismiss on Naia and we can set up some 7vs7 or 21vs21 w/e
as said Dim Siege is ideal for pvp so man up and fight ;)
cute but enough about your local server drama, lets talk about avoiding pvp cause u chose to ignore other clans here like DH or Fear.. why not fight them ?
also if you're afraid to get zerged pm Dismiss on Naia and we can set up some 7vs7 or 21vs21 w/e
as said Dim Siege is ideal for pvp so man up and fight ;)
dont try to talk with him or any genocide.
they 1st hold hands with fs/enmity to kill dragons (all of them was not able to get nova out of aden), then absorbed almost all 99 toon from enmity and declaring war on them , then allyed fs. nova had 2grp of bregan active in ally? +rr as friend clan , after they declared war to enmity they started to lose every dragon every siege and they even lost rune castle from tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ld6y9E3vfsk#at=1331 ,last tax genocide did , because they never signed to siege anymore for 2month, they did 2 full month as clan mass sign coc and nova made them fail 2month then they left chronos (as bonus if u arent bored look at 20.50 how rumbo walk intro furioussteel , naked )
as last , if u wanna make 7vs7 with them , be sure to not have a iss with MI , becuase they will not accept . (this was the excuse of why TOP genocide grp didnt wanted to pvp TOP nova grp with fathips as iss97 )
I'm a bit confused. The dynamic of Chronos was half decent until you guys decided to zerg up and recruit everyone to win. Now you complain about not having anything to do or anyone to fight....? I wonder why that is. Just remember why servers are the way they are (at least chronos) before making such posts :/
This thread isn't about Chronos, it is about how noncompetitive the Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien servers are and what we can do as a community to fix the terribleness that are these servers. Without merging them, they will always be afraid of Chronos and Naia and cowardice will overcome them into never participating in dimensional sieges.
You are the clan leader of a clan that owns either Aden or Rune on Magmeld no? Are what you are saying here is that do not plan on improving your clan to make them competitive?
exactly when martelx speaks which i had make too many post and petition when ghe was botting in pagans when all nova use so hard scripts to automate all CC what u expect ncsoft and gms support those morons who believe they play teh game but the truth is they destroy the game good work ncsoft botters
Nothing really to improve on because the conditions of these servers will never be that of Chronos or Naia. The biggest problem with the old servers and the new servers is people lack the ability to realize they are outdated or just not fit to lead a clan. Everyone wants to be king dingaling which is why our time on chronos was cut short. Regardless of things we were outnumbered (even though this special case magicelfa for some reason speaks as if we weren't). You are a person of intelligence and reason Will, so you know how difficult it was for anyone to work against Nova. We tried to work with other clans but in the end they were too stubborn and not willing to work towards the same goal. My many talks with Hitch came to the same conclusion, those guys are just built to lose.
As for dimensional siege, whenever it stops being a handholding fest and the numbers get lowered I'm sure things will become more interesting. That is if they manage to fix the rewards for the rest of the castles. I don't know about you guys but it's summer time and I'm pretty sure most of us have better things to do than go flex our ******s on a dimensional server.
Pain is temporary friends, but what comes with it will give you more satisfaction than watching your bots kill pixels :p
Nothing really to improve on because the conditions of these servers will never be that of Chronos or Naia. The biggest problem with the old servers and the new servers is people lack the ability to realize they are outdated or just not fit to lead a clan. Everyone wants to be king dingaling which is why our time on chronos was cut short. Regardless of things we were outnumbered (even though this special case magicelfa for some reason speaks as if we weren't). You are a person of intelligence and reason Will, so you know how difficult it was for anyone to work against Nova. We tried to work with other clans but in the end they were too stubborn and not willing to work towards the same goal. My many talks with Hitch came to the same conclusion, those guys are just built to lose.
As for dimensional siege, whenever it stops being a handholding fest and the numbers get lowered I'm sure things will become more interesting. That is if they manage to fix the rewards for the rest of the castles. I don't know about you guys but it's summer time and I'm pretty sure most of us have better things to do than go flex our ******s on a dimensional server.
Pain is temporary friends, but what comes with it will give you more satisfaction than watching your bots kill pixels :p
Just about politics you know zerg isn't everything you can hold hands as much as u want.If clan have 200 pplz who are handless no geared 1 shoted runing like dumb into walls of castle.... You wont do much with that.. just feed crp.
Its rly depends what players you gather into your clan. Pplz who are smart and able to think especially party leaders IQ has to be 180+ :).
This thread isn't about Chronos, it is about how noncompetitive the Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien servers are and what we can do as a community to fix the terribleness that are these servers. Without merging them, they will always be afraid of Chronos and Naia and cowardice will overcome them into never participating in dimensional sieges.
You are the clan leader of a clan that owns either Aden or Rune on Magmeld no? Are what you are saying here is that do not plan on improving your clan to make them competitive?
do u wanna fix?
stop ur bots, and ask u friends do to the same, try pvp without ranger.
this would probably benefit the strongest and second strongest clan the most, so that would be either genocide or fear. fissure should welcome this change you would think because people like to join the strongest clans.
You have to remember we went to the first dimensional siege where Fear,StrongHold,Enigma,DH,MAX etc etc were fighting. DH was a bit troublesome because of their numbers compared to ours but the rest were wtf is this. In all honesty I had more fun fighting nova on chronos before they zerged up. Thats just me though.
You keep saying "zerged it up". Do you kill Antharas or Valakas on your server Jon? Have you even seen or attempted Lindvior? A lot of us in nova have been around for a long time and if your clan cannot kill dragons or see the new end-game content, then you are doing something wrong. Even in our "zerg" state as you say, we have to box several people to kill these bosses. We brought ~64 people to last dimensional siege...that's one third of what an active clan should be.
I don't really disagree with you about the numbers and doing the end-game content, everyone wants to be there and doing that for sure. I think the influx of people and speed you did it at was unreasonable and unhealthy for the server. I don't really think what you did was wrong because as a clan and player you have goals that you want to achieve or else why play. But at the same time you weren't thinking about how it would affect the rest of the server when you did it and thus ending result was this. Especially since you knew how hard headed the other clans were to work with.
as said before Nova & SH will be more then happy to just arrange for 7vs7 or 21vs21 aka no zerging just equal forces..
also to LordofSpoil, SH only brought members from allied clans during the 1st siege as we didn't knew what to expect from the other clans.. since then we didn't bother with that ;)
thought most ppl in the end game clans like pvp and work to improve themselves but I guess except for a few clans most are happy to just pretend they're the king of the hill and prefer not to put to the test how good/bad they really are..
I don't really disagree with you about the numbers and doing the end-game content, everyone wants to be there and doing that for sure. I think the influx of people and speed you did it at was unreasonable and unhealthy for the server. I don't really think what you did was wrong because as a clan and player you have goals that you want to achieve or else why play. But at the same time you weren't thinking about how it would affect the rest of the server when you did it and thus ending result was this. Especially since you knew how hard headed the other clans were to work with.
in short: Nova leadership is better at building working relationships/diplomatic negotiations/kiss *** then your side when you were still there ?
L2 is more then just PvP, it's a MMO which requires end game clans to be able to network etc., if you don't you just end up like DH on Naia who made enemies of most ppl playing there and are now surprised they're all alone versus the server.. or way back when Nova did the same.. still a good clan with strong leadership is able to work things out in their advantage like the huge rebuilding/direction Nova took which put them where they are right now..
It was never really about politics or being a diplomat on chronos lol. It was all of the older clans who have accomplished nothing since GoD came out not wanting to evolve and grow with the rest of the hungry driven people. They were content with being in their own clans, doing their own things and losing. No offense but since you aren't from chronos and don't play on chronos it's best not to pretend like what you're saying is supposed to mean anything.
I'm more than willing to do that with SH and Nova.
Also you talk a lot Draecke so I hope your group ends up being worth all of this time.
just someone who likes decent pvp and doesn't really care where/whom it is with :)
ironically I actually know many ppl from my old days on Kain/Aria/Devianne that are now in Nova/Max/DV so to me it's also a nice way of seeing old friends/enemies ^^
ps, don't get me wrong I don't think am a pvp god or the like just that I'm not that bad nor afraid to fight
It was never really about politics or being a diplomat on chronos lol. It was all of the older clans who have accomplished nothing since GoD came out not wanting to evolve and grow with the rest of the hungry driven people. They were content with being in their own clans, doing their own things and losing. No offense but since you aren't from chronos and don't play on chronos it's best not to pretend like what you're saying is supposed to mean anything.
No offense taken and I think we're more or less saying the same thing here cause the idea is just to promote pvp and learn from our mistakes, how else can one grow hmm ?
I agree the point is to learn from mistakes and grow but like I said before, until now nobody was willing to fight with even numbers etc. I've fought against nova enough to know how the fights go. I've won some, I've lost some and won't complain about the fights that happen. Don't really care for the whole **** talking or propaganda either. Not to mention since nova were town campers except for Diego and Hitches group. But thats the way of the game isn't it, the strong eat the weak.
I wonder who is Draecke groups :D A turtle a pony, an hot italian girl ?
Once upon a time, a turtle, a pony and a slowpoke walked into a bar... Except that they had to wait for the turtle.
wonder why martelx crying about other servers, when i bet magmeld is more pvp then chronos lol, only place chronos is more active is market everything else got absorbed by 1 side
as said before Nova & SH will be more then happy to just arrange for 7vs7 or 21vs21 aka no zerging just equal forces..
also to LordofSpoil, SH only brought members from allied clans during the 1st siege as we didn't knew what to expect from the other clans.. since then we didn't bother with that ;)
thought most ppl in the end game clans like pvp and work to improve themselves but I guess except for a few clans most are happy to just pretend they're the king of the hill and prefer not to put to the test how good/bad they really are..
Your party vrs mine this Saturday. Good ole 7v7 like you want.
No Offense but no one want to fight you or NOVA the average players can not compete. We would rather fight on a smaller server with less bots, less script users, less + gear and skills. Many of us have left Chronos because of you.
Our servers are not dead in-fact most sieges we have more fun because it is EVEN fighting. There is no lag because less scripts. We can actually move.
The first dimensional siege was sooo lagy because of NOVA's scripts no one had a chance, most stood and spun while you killed us in one hit. You brought 2 clans worth of toons. NOVA and Kerrigan's old clan. Then for the second you let Life and RR suck up all the "want to be NOVA" from Chronos.
NOVA “the peoples clan” have ruined Chronos. That’s not our fault that’s yours.
This is suppose to be a fun game but fighting computer programs and characters that have +10 all skills +6 or greater armor +15 weapon’s, blessed all jewels.... That is not fun to us.....NOVA has striped blessed jewels and Event Boss drops from other servers. Are actively farming other servers for blessed jewels. Who can compete Martel?
You expect Ari3s, Loot, or Momoc to mount an attack at this point with all the folks who would merge. If you want a fight you might as well break NOVA up like the old days and start moving server to server with small bands to allow people time to build up.
The Average Joe working a 9 to 5 playing 3 to 5 hours a night after a hard day at work does not want to die over and over in one hit to Martel for 50,000 damage.
You have spent 200 billion adena maybe more on your toons over the last few years.
Most of us if we are lucky have seen 5 to 10 billion in our career. The gear we have on we earned slowly. We politely say NO thank you, many of us have chose to leave chronos because of NOVA and chose not to fight in the dimensional siege because we like our little server without having to deal with NOVA.
Enjoy your dead server and winning dimensional siege.
No Offense but no one want to fight you or NOVA the average players can not compete. We would rather fight on a smaller server with less bots, less script users, less + gear and skills. Many of us have left Chronos because of you.
Our servers are not dead in-fact most sieges we have more fun because it is EVEN fighting. There is no lag because less scripts. We can actually move.
The first dimensional siege was sooo lagy because of NOVA's scripts no one had a chance, most stood and spun while you killed us in one hit. You brought 2 clans worth of toons. NOVA and Kerrigan's old clan. Then for the second you let Life and RR suck up all the "want to be NOVA" from Chronos.
NOVA “the peoples clan” have ruined Chronos. That’s not our fault that’s yours.
This is suppose to be a fun game but fighting computer programs and characters that have +10 all skills +6 or greater armor +15 weapon’s, blessed all jewels.... That is not fun to us.....NOVA has striped blessed jewels and Event Boss drops from other servers. Are actively farming other servers for blessed jewels. Who can compete Martel?
You expect Ari3s, Loot, or Momoc to mount an attack at this point with all the folks who would merge. If you want a fight you might as well break NOVA up like the old days and start moving server to server with small bands to allow people time to build up.
The Average Joe working a 9 to 5 playing 3 to 5 hours a night after a hard day at work does not want to die over and over in one hit to Martel for 50,000 damage.
You have spent 200 billion adena maybe more on your toons over the last few years.
Most of us if we are lucky have seen 5 to 10 billion in our career. The gear we have on we earned slowly. We politely say NO thank you, many of us have chose to leave chronos because of NOVA and chose not to fight in the dimensional siege because we like our little server without having to deal with NOVA.
Enjoy your dead server and winning dimensional siege.
Actually.. Martel's previous Duals were valued in 12k USD.. quickly converted that's 300b.. add set, dyes, jewels, etc.. that's another 300b.
But hey.. now he's an archer.. so he had to "farm" that amount of money all over again... plus his backup toons, in case his main gets hit.
So.. I would say.. roughly 1.2 Trillion Adena at least.. 48 to 70k USD value/expense/whatever, just from Martel side... Add entire Nova and you can probably get past 1-2 Million Dollars.
Bartz is fine we have PvP everyday and even scripted guys fall.
For those who said bartz dont have op gears:
WE have OP weapons too...One Tauti Weapon 45B in Item Broker(ofc goes to the best bot that came from other server and made alrdy 3-4toons 99/99 in 1month...)and guess what? he even choose 2handed weapon....and... dont play with it!
Dim sieges says nothing about server being competitive or not and merging server are not made because of that. Merging is made only then its not worth runing extra server due to player population in it. For now nc deosnt have good enough gear to keep stable servers with 6k population (which can be seen from chronos unstability when it goes down on peeks). Merging servers which alrdy have 6k(chronos), 5k(nania), 3.5k(shilen), 3k(magmeld), 2.5k (bartz) populations on peeks would cause great lags and unstability.
Ofc 60% or more population in servers are bots and only fixing this problem would let to have 2 servers full of legit players.
I think they will eventually merge these servers anyway. Probably Bartz and Magmeld first, and then proceed from there. My best guess would be about a year from now.
Antharas/Valakas/Lindvior/Trasken unable to farm in Bartz
Any piece of Gear & Epics taken on Bartz almost 75% of the cases has been taken by transfer from Cronos to Bartz cheaper with BEWR bonus serial codes on ALTs in designated Servers.
You think any random without CP can take this gear you got in a Legit fashioned way here in Bartz? You do the math. 1% in our Server is geared up this way. In Cronos it might be ~33%.
R99 Armor Prices Unidentified in Bartz
Eternal LA 4b
Eternal BP 3b
Eternal Tunic 2b
DEWR 5b+
Our Economy sucks due to low-population vs. farming vs. drops. :(
Cheers,
Bennie
Antharas/Valakas/Lindvior/Trasken unable to farm in Bartz how can u not farm vala/anth/trasken/tauti? its easy. even epic tauti
gear wise, on my 98 dual class:
+4 blessed 95 120x3 set LA - 7.5b about 2+ months ago in aden, bought from 4-5 months of CC runs/1 pt octavis + istina grps n respective drops selling.
baium/aq/anth i've had since god launch. plus baiums a super easy raid now.
+15 str -3 dex (3 sets) = 2.4b if you do it from KEs and a fort, 5.3b if u get AH
+12 blessed 95 2sa 300 bow (longing i made +4b from naia transfer)
+4 octavis neck = bought 4b from clan cp that farms it, same w/ +4 oct ear
+6 istina (from istina raid)
+3 istina earring (bought cheap from someone in clan who got from raid)
hellfire talisman.
sooo...question is, pre lindvior, the last 4-5 patches, and R99 weaps/gear dropped from Baylor/Balok/CC runs, how can you not gear urself for relatively cheap?
I still killed 99s w/ a +4 300 2sa 95 bow. gear isnt everything if u bulls+pinpoint a toon. they go down fast. stop making excuses about "scripts" or "gear op vs us", put ur money where ur mouth is, pvp, and get over your small minded attitudes or stop playing. simple.
I was just speaking about players in general who do not have a fixed group to play with. A fixed group to go Istina/Octavis with 1-group, CC runs, Baylor/Balok and such to sell drops and share the adena. CC runs now just gives you stupid REC R99 only instead of fulldrops if you tell me. GF
14 days ago we tried to kill Antharas with 3 clans in Bartz and we failed. ~126 players entered in CC. Ended up around ~102 players in CC when Beserking started. We failed with like around 7% left to go of it's HP. :(
Anyway you were questioning why players do not gear up relatively cheap in pre-lindvior. Well I was wondering if someone is 95-97 Level why should they even consider spending adena to buy R99 gear? You can see in my signiture that I am not even 99 yet. So why should I spend adena for R99 gear when I am not even close to achieve it yet. (Ofcourse my R99 gear is complete, but not ever random player (especially the ones without group or adena) acts & thinks like me 1-step ahead).
Considering all of that. Pre-Lindvior drops were alot better. So people should have bought equipment back then when it was alot cheaper. If we only could have a look into the future. It is easy to talk now about gearing up for some players if you speak about pre-Lindvior. It all was soo much better. Only if. Only if we knew ...
Some players did not expect crafting to be this hard. So ofcourse prices rise alot more now then expected. Since now you got no decent R99 drops compared to the tons of Unidentified drops we had pre-Lindvior. The old boses which used to drop R99 or even Blessed, drop now only sheit or even just REC R99 alone! LOL So you got now terrible Low-chance if you tell me in Lindvior. I even saw Juji Lab 100 Octavis kills = 0 Octavis Jewels. GF tbh sad story. In long-term: Regular Istina/Octavis Jewel prices will go up again. Since there won't be a steady fresh supply of it anymore (like it was in pre-Lindvior). Plus the old regular epics will be converted with Istina/Octavis crystals into Enhanced Jewels anytime soon now! The old Istina/Octavis Jewels will become much more rare within 12 months. So QQ. I suggest you buy them now fast.
Last note: Please stop talking about Archers. We all know they are OP even with the worst possible gear. If you tell me they are the only Classes who are totally unbalanced versus any other class in attack power, crit rate versus crit damage gear wise. The tanks are the only weak point for them if you tell me. Since other classes got alot more weakpoints in attacking particular classes. 1 side note though with the Wyn able to debuff even when players are in Celestial ... still bs
Just having a thought/opinion from different perspectives. May the force be with you! ;)
As the Dimensional Sieges would suggest, the servers of Magmeld, Bartz, and Shilien are more or less dead. Aden and Giran are owned by two Chronos clans while Rune and Goddard are owned by two Naia clans. The servers of Bartz and Magmeld do not even participate in the event and the only clan that shows up from Shilien has less population than either of the four clans from Chronos or Naia. Their server populations are several thousand less than the populations of Chronos/Naia and from what is told to me from said servers is that they are uncompetitive. On top of all this, seven of the top eight battle tournament teams were from the servers of Chronos and Naia. I would suggest that these uncompetitive servers of Bartz, Shilien, and Magmeld be merged into Chronos and Naia depending on their time zone difference with the two main servers.
This guy is funny, the problem is nova has professional players that need a pro league server or something where ncsoft pays 5 or 6 figures to become pros and play to take castle on this pro league server :)
Shilen/barts/ don't have any good players on them or players with good gear. They don't have 40 people with red weapons and 10 years l2 experience to fight the nova :D
Diabolical, I hope you meant Adena right wink wink...
Many of us have good gear and items, vs a normal clan on any server but Chronos.
BAQ
+6Frint
+6Zaken
+6Instina
+5Oct
+4 120 95
+6 300 2 SA weapons
I even have a lot of +5 skills
Ive played for 7 years I have good gear, The issue is not good gear its about overpowered gear and +ed toons and the ones who can afford it, vs the ones who play for fun. Its about Scripted players and massive adena.
I cant spend 1.2 trillion adena lol or for that matter 300 billion; Earned, farmed or bought adena it don’t matter.
NOVA is sooo far above the other clans its not even close, they could do Dimension with there top 4 parties and most likely still hold aden and send parties to the other castles. Hell rumor is nova is moving members to FEAR on Shilen and someone on Magmeld so they can hold all 4 castles for dimensional and farm more blessed epics (agno and vargas I hear)
NOVA wants people to fight them for THERE enjoyment. If you chose you will soon learn you are just Meat for the NOVA grinder. Who wants to be that. The clan I’m in holds a castle on my server, we raid 2 nights a week, we have good even PvP. NO drama, lots of fun, no QQ ing. Our server population of live people is great less bots =o) than Chronos.
We moved to get away from NOVA, FS and Enmity we left our 5 year old level 11 clan to start fresh on a new server.
Because, NCSoft is powerless or unwilling to do anything to them. The times they have tried, They Ban X person X Person has a Toon to play within 24 hours, with Maxed gear in a Month. They also make $200,000 real money off these folks. Why would they ban them at this point. I can almost Guarantee 200 toons owned by NOVA bought the monthly cubes so they can get more overpowered. Just like the guys in NOVA who bought 50 of the packs with the Destruction Scrolls in them, + 15 to 20 weapons come on. Go watch NOVA in the dimensional siege count the number of red weapons. Most clans had one or 2 but not 30. And Scripts are so blatant, go to any server find the AUTO buffers and follow the money, but NCSoft stays quiet and IGI, BuffsAlot, and Jonny’s toon do it on 3 different servers. All owned by ex or current NOVA.
The Averge Joe's cant fight that kind of RL money being spent. All we can do is enjoy our little piece of our small pond away from the people who can. So no we don’t want a merger we moved away from NOVA.
i think all Averge Joe's gears is up to 30b now and even so with this u can beat one or two nova toons, but a party of Averge Joe's cant beat a nova mid party.
There is no lag because less scripts. We can actually move.
The first dimensional siege was sooo lagy because of NOVA's scripts no one had a chance, most stood and spun while you killed us in one hit.
I am curious as to how this works. Please elaborate how any player performing any action illicit or legit can cause someone else to experience lag and freeze up.
This was of course a rhetorical question meant to illustrate how ridiculous people like you are.
I am curious as to how this works. Please elaborate how any player performing any action illicit or legit can cause someone else to experience lag and freeze up.
This was of course a rhetorical question meant to illustrate how ridiculous people like you are.
/auraofpacketslewl
Yea LordCroaker you are so crazy saying that.. You should listen this d00d, because he does really knows whats hes talking about
I am curious as to how this works. Please elaborate how any player performing any action illicit or legit can cause someone else to experience lag and freeze up.
This was of course a rhetorical question meant to illustrate how ridiculous people like you are.
I like when people complain about dead servers..
From my experience.. those that usually complain.. are the ones that killed the server.
This is how it always has been, just look at what happened after previous server merges. Server becomes one-sided, people either join winning side or stop playing because they hate being owned. Server merges because "boo-hoo nobody wants to pvp us". Two weeks of intense pvp until one side emerges as the winning side on the merged server. People on the losing side drop clan and join winning side, or they stop playing. Server becomes totally one-sided again. More server merges. Repeat.
And it's funny that it's always people from the same clans asking for server merges. I wonder if they seriously do not understand WHY the servers they play on are so dead (hint: because of those players themselves, with alts on every single server doing the same crap), or if they just enjoy killing this game and want more server merges to wring every little bit of enjoyment out of it before it closes down.
It's absolutely not new that bad scripts lag server... also those advanced informational widgets, many "tops" use also drain bandwidth..
For example.. there's these certain parties in Naia, that I know, that are close.. because server gets laggy around them.
last time i said something like this to some guys they start saying that the one experiencing such a lag was just a ******, that there is no way that someone can make others lag and that was for sure the CREST COLOR to make them lag...**** you guys , change ur crest colors or i'll get stucked forever X'D
last time i said something like this to some guys they start saying that the one experiencing such a lag was just a ******, that there is no way that someone can make others lag and that was for sure the CREST COLOR to make them lag...**** you guys , change ur crest colors or i'll get stucked forever X'D
16 million shades squeezed into a clan crest, sure!
Actually.. Martel's previous Duals were valued in 12k USD.. quickly converted that's 300b.. add set, dyes, jewels, etc.. that's another 300b.
But hey.. now he's an archer.. so he had to "farm" that amount of money all over again... plus his backup toons, in case his main gets hit.
So.. I would say.. roughly 1.2 Trillion Adena at least.. 48 to 70k USD value/expense/whatever, just from Martel side... Add entire Nova and you can probably get past 1-2 Million Dollars.
So many pixels... :D
Where in the world do you guys come up with these numbers?
My gear (Mind u I play in the top party) is maybe worth 50b
+4/5 Standard R99 Set (10b/12b)
STR Tats +4 - 1 (1b)
Desire tailsmen - (2b)
Frint Necklace (400m?)
Baium (5b)
Blessed AQ (20b)
Istina earing (7b)
CoC Earing (100m)
+5 R99 Bow (5b+5b pve)
STR Hat (1b)
Oh, whats that come out to, maybe 60b and I priced things higher than there actual value? Mind you the blessed AQ and baium ring came from clan, weird to farm jewels huh? As well as the istina earing. If we didn't count those, my gear would be far far less than 30b in which ox considered average. Martels gear is anything but good, hes playing in C4 jewls as myself, with a +7 R99 bow. If this is so unobtainable to some of you guys I don't no what to say but...
You guys simply are awful, unscrub yourselves, or quit. I don't care anymore.
i think all Averge Joe's gears is up to 30b now and even so with this u can beat one or two nova toons, but a party of Averge Joe's cant beat a nova mid party.
Average would be, 25/30b probably. Its what all nova players have, outside of a few people with a 100b worth, but stop thinking everyone is running around in a +10 set with blessed EVERYTHING and a +3900 PVP weapon. Half the blessed sets in our top 3 parties came from BT, along with the weapons. Whos fault is that?
Jarpo is completely right, you dont really need big items. All you need is to have a d00d providing you with the mechanics and knowledge to make possible the perfect plays and strategies in l2, nova clan has wonderfull players that through time have developed amazing skills at several aspects of the game such as eagle eye targeting,
also people have to understand that lineage 2 is an old game, and several players have earned the ability to read others clan's member thoughts as it was theirs and this allows them to act incredible faster, this is why we often see how so many players (from diferent parties) from nova clan are able to instantly attack the desired target and defeat it sucessfully , increasing to the max the clan work and leading them to reclaim supremacy as the most dominant clan on any of the Lineage II retail servers.
or no .. nvm you guys just have ******* massive z ranger scripts from diego vargas so items dont really give u an advantage, having a perfect scripted gameplay does.
maybe pick one of the dd's from jik group for example and i bet they have 4-5 times more valuable gear than jarpo. c'mon, since i saw them all they do is to gank ppl all day long for years, never farm anything, bosses dragons and so on. you see nova at every boss, at every dragon and shiet... yet they are not so amazing geared as you think and they are still the only ones blamed for every bot/rmt that is happening in this game.
i know is frustrating when someone has the right skill at the right time or that i cant sign to coc because i cant click faster than 1 sec or you can name your example but you should blame ncsoft for their poor job on encrypting this ****, their lack of active gm's and so on. have to deal with it or dont get involved. do you think if someone from a top clan would 'drop the weapons', others from an enemy clan would do that too, willingly? there is no such thing as a perfect or idealistic world you imagine, plus the hatred toward clans like nova for example is too big.
there is nothing from players end that you can change, nothing you say is going to do that... maybe some others realized this before you.
Finally someone who plays like me, from F12 to F1! :)
F4 - > F11 mostly!
I figure its much easier for me to reach all keys F1/F2/F3 and F9/F10 and F11 with my hand resting in the middle of my keyboard (F4-8) so i can reach all my main keys much easier!
LOL Jarpo.. don't throw sand in my eyes.. I remember you from my clan in Devianne. :P
Also.. you always loved the way Avor1s and Kaka0 p(l)ayed the game... and I also remember you comments on (k?)Canedra.. when he had total control on Wind Stones.
LOL Jarpo.. don't throw sand in my eyes.. I remember you from my clan in Devianne. :P
Also.. you always loved the way Avor1s and Kaka0 p(l)ayed the game... and I also remember you comments on (k?)Canedra.. when he had total control on Wind Stones.
Throw sand in your eyes? I was pointing out my gear is worth...nothing near, not even 1/3 of what you figure people spend on their toons, and infact being in a not terrible clan gave me over half my gear for free, other than time showing up to events. You remember me from your clan, what does that mean? Cheating and botting was frowned upon back then in pve LET alone pvp. Anyone knows I wont cheat in pvp and always have been that way.
Yeah, i Don't even remember avoris, a TH? Kakao was cool, ebayed tons, king of all GRs smashing on kids with his unlimited supply of QHPs in DC sets and canedra afkd his whole l2 career, what more comments did I make?
I figure its much easier for me to reach all keys F1/F2/F3 and F9/F10 and F11 with my hand resting in the middle of my keyboard (F4-8) so i can reach all my main keys much easier!
I guess it sounds dumb, but I should try it one day. I always used F1-4, 1-4 and AZER keys in the left on my keyboard, would be more logic to put main things on the middle, less time to move to other buttons O.o
moving from f1-f4 to f9-f12 inst that convenient, i use f5-f8 for single target, f9-f12 aoe and f1-f4 debuff. its easier to move a bit in left and right
I guess it sounds dumb, but I should try it one day. I always used F1-4, 1-4 and AZER keys in the left on my keyboard, would be more logic to put main things on the middle, less time to move to other buttons O.o
Ty for the tips :D
Hehe, not a tip! Just how I play. Give it a try. Everyone thinks its weird I play like this, but think about it. Holding ur hand on F1-F4 its hard to reach F9-F12, so with it in the middle makes accessing all keys eaiser for me
Throw sand in your eyes? I was pointing out my gear is worth...nothing near, not even 1/3 of what you figure people spend on their toons, and infact being in a not terrible clan gave me over half my gear for free, other than time showing up to events. You remember me from your clan, what does that mean? Cheating and botting was frowned upon back then in pve LET alone pvp. Anyone knows I wont cheat in pvp and always have been that way.
Yeah, i Don't even remember avoris, a TH? Kakao was cool, ebayed tons, king of all GRs smashing on kids with his unlimited supply of QHPs in DC sets and canedra afkd his whole l2 career, what more comments did I make?
Avoris.. clan leader of Makebots.. err.. makedones. First +16 DRac Bow in Devianne.. sidekick clan of ImmoS and OG.
Canedra, I remember being in vent with you and you admiring him, because he could put bot trains in HB, where live people couldn't xp live.. and you wanted to learn how to do that. :P
My gear (Mind u I play in the top party) is maybe worth 50b
+4/5 Standard R99 Set (10b/12b)
STR Tats +4 - 1 (1b)
Desire tailsmen - (2b)
Frint Necklace (400m?)
Baium (5b)
Blessed AQ (20b)
Istina earing (7b)
CoC Earing (100m)
+5 R99 Bow (5b+5b pve)
STR Hat (1b)
Oh, whats that come out to, maybe 60b and I priced things higher than there actual value? Mind you the blessed AQ and baium ring came from clan, weird to farm jewels huh? As well as the istina earing. If we didn't count those, my gear would be far far less than 30b in which ox considered average. Martels gear is anything but good, hes playing in C4 jewls as myself, with a +7 R99 bow. If this is so unobtainable to some of you guys I don't no what to say but...
You guys simply are awful, unscrub yourselves, or quit. I don't care anymore.
Average would be, 25/30b probably. Its what all nova players have, outside of a few people with a 100b worth, but stop thinking everyone is running around in a +10 set with blessed EVERYTHING and a +3900 PVP weapon. Half the blessed sets in our top 3 parties came from BT, along with the weapons. Whos fault is that?
the r99 bow with 1 sa is proly 5b, and the pve if u have a blessed is probly 5b too. this is the only thing i dont have at the moment, and i really try to got some fun with the game, but i didnt, thats why i left on november last years, i come back when lindvior arrives, but got 3 weeks of lag.
everytime i goes to oly, i farm my 4 or 7 spot at top 10, and i never reach max lv, i know i can beat u guyz, i just cant compete as a clan, cos i didnt know good ppl that want to go agaisnt u, all the ppl i know just wanted or want to join u.
the r99 bow i have in my inv is +6 2SA 300 and i blow up 7b trying to get longing ><, unbind stuff and blow up a couple billions with enchant, and gears to some friends.
2 question martelx ... how much exp/gear you ever get without the help of scripts? If you want competition .. why did you join the top clan?
ofc i kniow the answer to the first part im more interest in the 2. one .. i never understand during all these years why ppl complain about "no competition" and join the biggest/winning force.
If you have balls .. leave nova and fight them .. but ofc .. that will never happen.
2 question martelx ... how much exp/gear you ever get without the help of scripts? If you want competition .. why did you join the top clan?
ofc i kniow the answer to the first part im more interest in the 2. one .. i never understand during all these years why ppl complain about "no competition" and join the biggest/winning force.
If you have balls .. leave nova and fight them .. but ofc .. that will never happen.
I would say pretty much all of it tbh. I would be willing to bet you have more gear influenced by bots on your character than mine since...My bow I received from #BattleTournament, my armor set I received from the #BattleTournament, all the jewels I personally own are three years+ old (Antharas, Valakas, Baium, AntQueen). These jewls aren't even considered high-end anymore.
I am the oldest Nova clan member that plays Lineage still. Why would I ever leave the clan I built and fight it? PS. when I joined Nova it wasn't even a top 2 clan and several times have been offered the leadership of it. I love people that try to trash me with no sense of Lineage II history.
I would say pretty much all of it tbh. I would be willing to bet you have more gear influenced by bots on your character than mine since...My bow I received from #BattleTournament, my armor set I received from the #BattleTournament, all the jewels I personally own are three years+ old (Antharas, Valakas, Baium, AntQueen). These jewls aren't even considered high-end anymore.
I am the oldest Nova clan member that plays Lineage still. Why would I ever leave the clan I built and fight it? PS. when I joined Nova it wasn't even a top 2 clan and several times have been offered the leadership of it. I love people that try to trash me with no sense of Lineage II history.
Martel You ARE “Master of the Scripts” and have been for years. Everyone knows..
From a different site d00d
To be clear I have a script that does the following.
When you press an F key, it guarantee's that when you try and use an archer attack skill you will always have Rapid Fire Stance up before the cast and Siege Fire Stance up before the end of the cast. This technique does not depend on static timers and doesnt care about your ping.
Since I do not need money or adena I wont sell this to anyone but I want to push the community to think a little outside the box and figure it out..
passive sniffer, map hacks, ghosting, tapping, and scripting come on lol anyone who watches your vids sees if they have ever worked in the gaming industry.
Change Stance Script and pots without them being on the hot bar,scripts that target priority healer, scripts that target attacking enemy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mSfnrWsZt8
Wasn't there a MartelX on Naia who was the first to hit 99 on all NA servers? It's the same MartelX who posts here or...? :rolleyes:
same i think. i remember him in.. idk what chronicle it was where there was no server transfers implemented yet, i think just few months later they implemented that, he was hero dagger on idk what other server, came on bartz as new char, joined nova, 3rd clan after old enmity and td, lvled up, de archer i think... and so on. lvled up duelist, clan moved to phoenix sayha or w/e, chronos, naia, chronos... i dont even remember everything. if he is the only one playing from the old nova from bartz then indeed he is one of the oldest player from that clan. the nova name wasnt even that old when he came because i remember only at the end of c4 those ppl split up and formed...
You keep saying "zerged it up". Do you kill Antharas or Valakas on your server Jon? Have you even seen or attempted Lindvior? A lot of us in nova have been around for a long time and if your clan cannot kill dragons or see the new end-game content, then you are doing something wrong. Even in our "zerg" state as you say, we have to box several people to kill these bosses. We brought ~64 people to last dimensional siege...that's one third of what an active clan should be.
@HolyOx, who said I'm not +15 dex?
Aside from the "subtle" bashing, this post has the largest point to be taken from the current situation of the servers. The PVP is huge, the fact that all 3 small servers have all become one sided farm servers is a large problem. The other issue is clearly that no one is even attempting to try harder content. With the population situation as it stands on Bartz/Magmeld/Shillen, you can see that large clans have no goals. With no goals the competition has boiled down to a ******* contest in hero voice. You know what makes a fight more fun? Killing a big *** dragon, on top of the corpses of your enemies.
Until DV killed Tauti every single member cried. Said it couldn't be done (short of a few members who pushed the clan to do it). Then it got killed with a minimal amount of people, in mediocre gear. All the time clan members claiming "You need three parties of 97+ archers with +14 weapons". Numbers are a valid strat in this game. A game where the objectives are grand, and the PvP content is supposed to be large scale.
Pushing all these non-competitive servers together might give them all a chance to compete. Right now, the player pool is so dry the only solution is a working alliance (not going to happen) or absorbing clans (commonly regarded as a bad practice). No clan has 100 members that are active for every clan event. You have to over recruit to get what needs to be done, done.
Say what you will about the mass recruiting of a clan like Nova, they are solution oriented. Wanting to continue progressing their clan and their members. I won't endorse every action they participate in, but I won't **** this one, or the argument to merge the servers. I think it would solve a lot of issues and breathe life into a group of people who are not experiencing all the game has to offer.
Say what you will about the mass recruiting of a clan like Nova, they are solution oriented. Wanting to continue progressing their clan and their members. I won't endorse every action they participate in, but I won't **** this one, or the argument to merge the servers. I think it would solve a lot of issues and breathe life into a group of people who are not experiencing all the game has to offer.
Enough with this idiocy. Just do us a favor and keep your noobish speculations to yourself.
We've been there already, gone through the server merges before, seen what they always lead to.
Once the servers are merged, Nova will ally with the 1st strongest clan, absorb the 2nd strongest, and recruit all competitive and semi-competitive players from the remaining clans. ("solution oriented", my ***)
A few weeks later, you will hear the same whining about the dead server, no competition, no pvp, boring sieges, dropped wars, uncontested raids, PR's and BSOE's on sight, etc etc etc, ad nauseam.
It's always the same vicious circle of stupidity, and always the same bunch of losers ("pwners") resorting to all possible means of eliminating competition, just to complain about the lack of it a minute later. Too bad the masterminds of Nova do not have a single brain cell to realize that.
Enough with this idiocy. Just do us a favor and keep your noobish speculations to yourself.
We've been there already, gone through the server merges before, seen what they always lead to.
Once the servers are merged, Nova will ally with the 1st strongest clan, absorb the 2nd strongest, and recruit all competitive and semi-competitive players from the remaining clans. ("solution oriented", my ***)
A few weeks later, you will hear the same whining about the dead server, no competition, no pvp, boring sieges, dropped wars, uncontested raids, PR's and BSOE's on sight, etc etc etc, ad nauseam.
It's always the same vicious circle of stupidity, and always the same bunch of losers ("pwners") resorting to all possible means of eliminating competition, just to complain about the lack of it a minute later. Too bad the masterminds of Nova do not have a single brain cell to realize that.
Brash and irrational insults aside, I would like to point out that my post is in favor of merging the three smallest servers. Not this preposterous idea of merging them into Chronos. Though if you read for context you might have gathered that I too have been though this before.
Your poetic use of words like "Idiocy" and "noobish" is quite adorable. Maybe next time I will express my post monosyllabically so you can understand what I am saying, rather than picking a paragraph and flying off the handle because you have an inferiority complex.
Maybe you can understand it without all the big scary words: put 3 small place to one place. not with big scary nova.
I think I may have used a few more syllables but you might be able to look up the words that confuse you.
My own barrage of misguided insults can be ignored now.
This is what I mean about people complaining about NOVA.
("solution oriented", my ***)
They are solution oriented. Is your clan organizing its members to try to actually kill Trasken or Lindivor? If it is you can ignore this sentiment but I would like to be in a clan that has the desire to push it's members to the next level. Whatever that may be. WAY back in C1 I remember my clans not only working together to level but to get gear, kill bosses, and kill enemies. Stop them from leveling! If you're going to tell me that working together to complete objectives and progress to widen the gap between them (NOVA) and us ("Average Joes") then you are playing the wrong game. Or at least are delusional as to how to get ahead.
Here is the picture of the perfect game for you:
I can sit in town and lament on why I have no gear, people should only be able to do the content I can do!.
You can go ahead and bring this tremendous idea to some investors and see what they say. Be sure to bring a camcorder and put that **** on YouTube. Perhaps you can make a mint as an internet sensation.
I can see it now: "The Guy Who Thinks Progression is Limited To Himself" It's going to be the next Gangnam Style.
With the population situation as it stands on Bartz/Magmeld/Shillen, you can see that large clans have no goals. With no goals the competition has boiled down to a ******* contest in hero voice. You know what makes a fight more fun? Killing a big *** dragon, on top of the corpses of your enemies.
Errr, you do know that Chronos has exactly the same situation? It's a boring, one-sided, pve fest with almost no competition for anything.
These issues aren't population related, they occur cause everyone likes to jump the latest bandwagon and zerg the rest. Then they start crying about lack of competition and pvp yet 90% of their clans are former enemies.
Martel You ARE “Master of the Scripts” and have been for years. Everyone knows..
From a different site d00d
passive sniffer, map hacks, ghosting, tapping, and scripting come on lol anyone who watches your vids sees if they have ever worked in the gaming industry.
Change Stance Script and pots without them being on the hot bar,scripts that target priority healer, scripts that target attacking enemy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mSfnrWsZt8
Errr, you do know that Chronos has exactly the same situation? It's a boring, one-sided, pve fest with almost no competition for anything.
These issues aren't population related, they occur cause everyone likes to jump the latest bandwagon and zerg the rest. Then they start crying about lack of competition and pvp yet 90% of their clans are former enemies.
I wish there was a solution for Chronos, but I don't think there really is. Merging all the small servers into it is far from the right choice though. That's like saying "Fat chicks need loving too" and then feeding them everyone at your school. Someone effectively has to take one for the team to fix the problem. But no one is rising to the occasion.
I'm not on Chronos anymore. So in a way I am part of the problem. I play on the smaller servers and the problem for us is that not only do we have no competition we also have no population to complete anything. Even the large side has run out of people to recruit and can't accomplish anything. Partly from apathy, and partly from incompetence.
Enough with this idiocy. Just do us a favor and keep your noobish speculations to yourself.
We've been there already, gone through the server merges before, seen what they always lead to.
Once the servers are merged, Nova will ally with the 1st strongest clan, absorb the 2nd strongest, and recruit all competitive and semi-competitive players from the remaining clans. ("solution oriented", my ***)
A few weeks later, you will hear the same whining about the dead server, no competition, no pvp, boring sieges, dropped wars, uncontested raids, PR's and BSOE's on sight, etc etc etc, ad nauseam.
It's always the same vicious circle of stupidity, and always the same bunch of losers ("pwners") resorting to all possible means of eliminating competition, just to complain about the lack of it a minute later. Too bad the masterminds of Nova do not have a single brain cell to realize that.
Masterminds ? wait. what masterminds ? ? they have no brains dude.
All those pplz understand is preprogramming. for example: iswar or isflagged and inrange : attack.
thats all they have in their heads. And with that those pplz so called "nerds" trying to raise their Ego lvls.
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Errr, you do know that Chronos has exactly the same situation? It's a boring, one-sided, pve fest with almost no competition for anything.
These issues aren't population related, they occur cause everyone likes to jump the latest bandwagon and zerg the rest. Then they start crying about lack of competition and pvp yet 90% of their clans are former enemies.
enmity+fs+*** or whoever tried valakas after lindvior and failed? its not news that at first valakas after lindvior, nova and rr failed too. there are simply not enough ppl on chronos server too. *** are trying orc raids too so there is a little competition. this game has low population in general on NA servers, add there the bad game design and you get this... what you have today.
enmity+fs+*** or whoever tried valakas after lindvior and failed? its not news that at first valakas after lindvior, nova and rr failed too. there are simply not enough ppl on chronos server too. *** are trying orc raids too so there is a little competition. this game has low population in general on NA servers, add there the bad game design and you get this... what you have today.
Game doesnt have low population. It is just Nova ruining the server. And their own fun but they are too shortsighted that they dont see it.
Recruiting more and more meat shield helps them doing epic bosses. And they are too greedy and want to solo epics. Thats why they need all those high lvl - quite often botted - randoms.
They are absorbing people who eventually might fight against them. But nooo. They want jewels so they need to have hundreds of people. The worst thing is that 80 % of Nova members are handless bots who can be defeated anytime. Unfortunately they immediately call robocop party (Martel - who mastered scripts so much that he just in front of computer and watch pvp. And immortal Hitcha). And when such party appears PvP is over.
And Nova can say whatever want but they are serk. They have too high numbers and too scripted toons that people dont want to pvp with them. So there leave few people in FS, Emnity and H o E who still resist because they dont see any reason to join the strongest clan and lost all fun because they wouldnt find enemy.
So yeah. Nova ruining their own fun... GL.
I would say pretty much all of it tbh. I would be willing to bet you have more gear influenced by bots on your character than mine since...My bow I received from #BattleTournament, my armor set I received from the #BattleTournament, all the jewels I personally own are three years+ old (Antharas, Valakas, Baium, AntQueen). These jewls aren't even considered high-end anymore.
I am the oldest Nova clan member that plays Lineage still. Why would I ever leave the clan I built and fight it? PS. when I joined Nova it wasn't even a top 2 clan and several times have been offered the leadership of it. I love people that try to trash me with no sense of Lineage II history.
Technically speaking isn't Jenn the oldest playing Nova member?
I love people that try to trash me with no sense of Lineage II history.
im playing since prelude and i know enough about l2 history .. and you sire .. are the prototype of the playa that destroyed this game for alot of ppl, and now you rly come here and complain about "no competition" .. good game.
Technically speaking isn't Jenn the oldest playing Nova member?
Considering I was in Renovatio long before server mergers and Jenn transferred her character from Sieghard...I would assume not. Not that even a traitor like Jenn would be considered for said title either!
im playing since prelude and i know enough about l2 history .. and you sire .. are the prototype of the playa that destroyed this game for alot of ppl, and now you rly come here and complain about "no competition" .. good game.
Who is complaining about competition in this thread? All I see is randoms crying that Nova has no competition. What I am stating that Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are merely not competitive servers. They know that they are not competitive servers. I am only merely trying to help them along their way to their inevitable server merger.
Who is complaining about competition in this thread? All I see is randoms crying that Nova has no competition. What I am stating that Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are merely not competitive servers. They know that they are not competitive servers. I am only merely trying to help them along their way to their inevitable server merger.
The problem is that players on BMS are delusional.
Who is complaining about competition in this thread? All I see is randoms crying that Nova has no competition. What I am stating that Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are merely not competitive servers. They know that they are not competitive servers. I am only merely trying to help them along their way to their inevitable server merger.
From what I read, with that recruiting style of yours merge, wipe, brand new server, none of those gotta help you guys. If you're as old as you say, you should've seen clans like yours recruiting every single stupid or greedy person therefore the solution is to stop that along with botting. Not that you're gonna listen to me but just wanted to give you heads-up so you may see the problem is actually you guys lol.
Who is complaining about competition in this thread? All I see is randoms crying that Nova has no competition. What I am stating that Bartz, Magmeld, and Shilien are merely not competitive servers. They know that they are not competitive servers. I am only merely trying to help them along their way to their inevitable server merger.
Competitive by who's standards? Yours?
My server is very Competitive. A few tower people but few of your (z..r) minions.
What are your standards? Less look!!!!!!
control and 99% of the people using l2.net do not compare to what (z**r) can be though draecke. All they were was auto pots and a list.
Dimensional Seige
We should have gotten Hitch to glitch the game and crest on two castles in one siege. What were we thinking?
isnt the same as in rl? if you dont take advantage of something be sure others will do it with or w/o your permission or concern. we ciculate dirty money, we respect the law created only to protect the filthy rich ppl and ignore the masses and so on. what would you do if you found out you live in a world where you "perpetuate a corrupt system by participating in it" w/o knowing and everyone ignore your opinion?
The fact is that other servers don't join dimentional siege because they get no shjt even though they own a castle like goddard or giran.
2nd teir castles get 2nd teir rewards im not sure why you people dont understand this. If you want a good reward try fighting for Aden and rune instead of hiding
enlighten me how is it 2nd tier reward when u get elcryum crystal, its worth 1m gj wasting 2h fighting 400ppl holding hand fest as a clan for 1mil reward if u succeed. Its maybe 99999th tier reward, definetly not 2nd lol
So why not make only Aden and Rune the only castles that can be taken... This is the easiest way to bring up the competition and force to make better alliances within the dimensional siege...
The decision to make only some castles available to the dim siege has to do with the number of servers but didnt adress the fact that some servers have a low population.
With only 2 castles available you will promt the low pop servers to form a considerable force to counter the biggest clans...
if they would have left 70ppl limit, it would be still interesting, right now no server has 200ppl clan, there is just clans that will do whatever to win aka recruit whole enemy clans
Not a single clan signed for Aden or Rune today for dimensional sieges. The other servers don't want pvp weapons?
:D what happened martel no candy this weekend ? Write us how u feel ? :) Maybe your clan wanna start pvp with their hands not with scripts? Not the primary target healer behind the scenes or pplz without nobless :D . Dude it will be just much more fun than it is now. The game become not interesting pplz don't want to play anymore . If no players even RMT will die :D.In fact if you preprogramm every single action just to win 100% you will 100% lose l2 as a game eventualy. As i call it your scripts taking away hope from clans to achive something.Most pplz come to play not to script. You have to realise it someday. You have to think with your head , not with size of your *****.
You wanna populate the servers - put them in the GMT +3 timezone and watch the zerg take over. With most of the ppl from Europe, GMT -5 means oly start in the early hours of the morning. As a "bonus" you'll get half of the Innova n00bs here.
enlighten me how is it 2nd tier reward when u get elcryum crystal, its worth 1m gj wasting 2h fighting 400ppl holding hand fest as a clan for 1mil reward if u succeed. Its maybe 99999th tier reward, definetly not 2nd lol
If you hold giran for 4 weeks you get 20? dark eternal stones ( ~30bil on Chronos )
Stop reading after he ask for transfer to chronos naia rolf this guys just want to transfer bot trains adena items for free. You have doing this paying, please keep doing so on some point atleast help server to keep up ;)
Stop reading after he ask for transfer to chronos naia rolf this guys just want to transfer bot trains adena items for free. You have doing this paying, please keep doing so on some point atleast help server to keep up ;)
Why you need new server if you failed already on current one ? O.o
There are just too many differences between the older servers and the newer ones. I prefer the way the older servers work (except for the egos of the older decayed clans). No point in really merging new into old with how many players populate each server at this moment in time.
all server know u are a freak cheater + e-bay master + ******* etc etc etc, congratulations u are idiot of the year, get a gf u can (maybe when u drop 200 pounds but u can)
Are you implying that I or martel are involved in some sort of illicit behavior in game ?
I am afraid that your intense jealousy is causing you to imagine monsters where only talented players exist.
Seek help.
LOL u are idiot? maybe u writing from psychiatric? a lot of videos i see u with auto-stances + auto-targets... really idiot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siNH2voVEYo only an idiot with money upload videos to youtube using Z R A N G E R , gz pro :p world record changing stances, get a life plz.
Today walking in GF in bartz... what a bot land...
Honestly, +1 for merge servers but if this happen, enough of this politic of "we don't see anything".
We are tired... pretty **** tired of botters and abuses.
well the problem with merger is the servers would always be full and people would want ncsoft to make premium accounts. i remember not being able to connect to chronos from time to time, server can only hold so many players :(
Ncsoft did a "market strategy" very nice (on my view, my opnion, my feedback here): This new pack released is just the top, the moment that they waited for... 2011 / 2012 = cool events, friendly treatment and u see more people getting ban. Now at 2013:
*Drops? Cool story!
*Price for everything high as hell.
*Events? Sure! ah wait! U need ncoins.
*Bugged classes... skills not working, etc etc.
*Every single **** time u log ur char u need use horse transform... etc etc.
But my point is: Game still free and they won't change it, they can't. So no premium accounts. They can improve their machines if they need more people inside a server and let's be honest: How many bots online and how many players?
...
I dream with a world that don't exist any kind of scripts, good economy, bot under controll and way more.
all server know u are a freak cheater + e-bay master + ******* etc etc etc, congratulations u are idiot of the year, get a gf u can (maybe when u drop 200 pounds but u can)
First of all I didn't realize they made a scroll that allowed you to go to +17 without breaking your weapon. Second you don't even know what I look like or how much I weigh :) Could probably squat 3 of you in one.
Get a better machine and let people of Shillen/Magmeld/Bartz choose where they want to go Chronos/Naia so we can have a biggg community of people to interact with and chat all day and night :-O
LOL 7:04-7:07 time targeted enemy even without looking at him at distance of full nuke maybe Martelx don't post in yutube your 3rd party programms ah wait u bought rights so you probably can. Np dude keep going , keep going. Well those stances was epic anyway
LOL u are idiot? maybe u writing from psychiatric? a lot of videos i see u with auto-stances + auto-targets... really idiot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siNH2voVEYo only an idiot with money upload videos to youtube using Z R A N G E R , gz pro :p world record changing stances, get a life plz.
Be warned, your statements are libelous.
I will consult with my business partner martelx on if we should take legal action!
I will consult with my business partner martelx on if we should take legal action!
hahahaha using Z R A N G E R for old auto-stances? really serious? cheater want kick my ***? all server know the true, in this video u can see its imposible with 2 hands, target,run,hp potions,change stance & move? u are pathetic pay2win accept it or dont upload videos to youtube LOL.
Pd: I have not afraid to write the truth, cheaters ;)
LOL 7:04-7:07 time targeted enemy even without looking at him at distance of full nuke maybe Martelx don't post in yutube your 3rd party programms ah wait u bought rights so you probably can. Np dude keep going , keep going. Well those stances was epic anyway
& stances? changing during fight? run? using hp potions? only see stances... decrese cooldown to stance patck/skill power... now are actives before lindvior are toogles... only a blind or newbie in l2 cant see that, maybe u are his friend idk ;)
& stances? changing during fight? run? using hp potions? only see stances... decrese cooldown to stance patck/skill power... now are actives before lindvior are toogles... only a blind or newbie in l2 cant see that, maybe u are his friend idk ;)
Stances could be nostromo.
I'm not his friend, I dont even know him. But I have been known to play devils advocate from time to time.
& stances? changing during fight? run? using hp potions? only see stances... decrese cooldown to stance patck/skill power... now are actives before lindvior are toogles... only a blind or newbie in l2 cant see that, maybe u are his friend idk ;)
i see no z ranger here. everything that is shown in this video is a completely normal function of a nostromo (ra** orbweaver or someth) and a razer naga. They have a great macro program =]. (this includes the stance switching.)
i wouldnt try arguing with ppl that dunno how to press more than the default f1 set up by the game... keybinding, nostromo, fancy mices... thats like science fiction
as i said look the action within 7:04 7:08 its not posible to target enemy at this distance behind your sight without programm. The scripts made probably 1st target healer if healer down go for closes one so the closes one targeting martelx was behind scenes. While he was looking forward with his fraps programm took target behind him. martel reacted too slow and turned camera way after he got enemy on target. Its not Nostromo its pure scripts and every old player know it. And i even can point out clanwebs where you can register join clan get all this stuff. Im against it and i don't want pvp scripts because its destroying the game itself. It should be restricted to use those. But idk why probably someone have agreement.Until pplz pay for those programms they will exist. peoples think if they start use programm they can cach up those Martelx etc and will be able to win them. But its not true.You get version of lines then something changes and exactly those is the ones who are 1st updating and again owning. Those are pplz who geting benefits from all l2 comunity. So basicly Martelx Dismiss party is the ones who dictate parade and they have rights to do that. The only way to fight them is IF pplz realise that need to stop buy subscriptions for programm. Subscriptions boost its growth .
hahahaha using Z R A N G E R for old auto-stances? really serious? cheater want kick my ***? all server know the true, in this video u can see its imposible with 2 hands, target,run,hp potions,change stance & move? u are pathetic pay2win accept it or dont upload videos to youtube LOL.
Pd: I have not afraid to write the truth, cheaters ;)
The rage is strong with this one. I let complete strangers over the internet get me infuriated too.
Top botter/e-bayer/diamond Visa(gold is low) player ask for server merge just to own lowbies so he can feel that he is something again.What a community...Literally you deserve a medal.I though League of legends had the worst community ever but hell no..! LineAge NA take the leads with no sweat..Its ok martel, i bet your scripts can kill players even on different servers, you dont need merge.
Top botter/e-bayer/diamond Visa(gold is low) player ask for server merge just to own lowbies so he can feel that he is something again.What a community...Literally you deserve a medal.I though League of legends had the worst community ever but hell no..! LineAge NA take the leads with no sweat..Its ok martel, i bet your scripts can kill players even on different servers, you dont need merge.
LOL i imagine runing in naia write down /target martelx and next miliseconds you see system message
Martelx gave you 56987 of damage
Martelx half kill was successful
Bulsyey effect can be felt
Martelx gave you 87589 of damage
Hehe, not a tip! Just how I play. Give it a try. Everyone thinks its weird I play like this, but think about it. Holding ur hand on F1-F4 its hard to reach F9-F12, so with it in the middle makes accessing all keys eaiser for me
Then why people are terribad at this game. You use only 12 buttons from your Keyboard.
best set up for now for me has been:
f1,f2,f3,f4,
1,2,3,4,5,6
q,w,e,r,t
a,s,d,f,g,h
shift,ctrl, c,v,b,
space
and I mouse click my bindings and self buffs.
Jarpo it is not about who how much gear has. You do not cheat for PvP, although I am very sure you rmt for a huge amount. Rumada is also your sold toon like 90 % sure.
You just said you have a 20-30 bil gear worth. Well guess what until I took a break I had max 15 bil gear worth. Now I have slightly more, cause I spend 1 month in trades and doing the market, while I was not able to play. Yet I am not the avarage Joe, but I can not be pro anymore due to the fact I do not have bot trains and can not farm RL cash from the game.
This is what ruined the game. Everyone in Nova and his mom has bot trains to farm stuff. Yet more than 90 % use 3rd party to PvP. So why do you complain about lack of competition? You compete against regular people, so you ruin your competition by yourselves.
Somebody mentioned Jik and his party's gear and also KoHeK. I can tell you that these guys have less than Jarpo also. And Jarpo is one of the poor doods in Nova, he is not the avarage Joe, he is worse than that. Nova has approx 5-6 healers that are among the top 15 best geared people.
On top of that your clan Jarpo recruited a lot and did politics in order to give themselves advantage. Although I agree with your way of politics and that is the reasonable way to play, I honestly do not understand the cry.
People like Martelx and Diego should have been long gone from the game. Even you, bud. A cry for server merges and saying how it is easy to farm gear, should not have existed, because your toons and any other of your toons in normal circumstances shouldnt have existed. People play according to these normal circumstances, while you do not. So why is the cry? You want more PvP?
Cash out, leave your toons with plus 4 sets and wpns and 1 boss jewel. Log in without any 3rd party software and play. See the difference in few months.
Diabolical, I hope you meant Adena right wink wink...
Many of us have good gear and items, vs a normal clan on any server but Chronos.
BAQ
+6Frint
+6Zaken
+6Instina
+5Oct
+4 120 95
+6 300 2 SA weapons
I even have a lot of +5 skills
Ive played for 7 years I have good gear, The issue is not good gear its about overpowered gear and +ed toons and the ones who can afford it, vs the ones who play for fun. Its about Scripted players and massive adena.
I cant spend 1.2 trillion adena lol or for that matter 300 billion; Earned, farmed or bought adena it don’t matter.
NOVA is sooo far above the other clans its not even close, they could do Dimension with there top 4 parties and most likely still hold aden and send parties to the other castles. Hell rumor is nova is moving members to FEAR on Shilen and someone on Magmeld so they can hold all 4 castles for dimensional and farm more blessed epics (agno and vargas I hear)
NOVA wants people to fight them for THERE enjoyment. If you chose you will soon learn you are just Meat for the NOVA grinder. Who wants to be that. The clan I’m in holds a castle on my server, we raid 2 nights a week, we have good even PvP. NO drama, lots of fun, no QQ ing. Our server population of live people is great less bots =o) than Chronos.
We moved to get away from NOVA, FS and Enmity we left our 5 year old level 11 clan to start fresh on a new server.
Because, NCSoft is powerless or unwilling to do anything to them. The times they have tried, They Ban X person X Person has a Toon to play within 24 hours, with Maxed gear in a Month. They also make $200,000 real money off these folks. Why would they ban them at this point. I can almost Guarantee 200 toons owned by NOVA bought the monthly cubes so they can get more overpowered. Just like the guys in NOVA who bought 50 of the packs with the Destruction Scrolls in them, + 15 to 20 weapons come on. Go watch NOVA in the dimensional siege count the number of red weapons. Most clans had one or 2 but not 30. And Scripts are so blatant, go to any server find the AUTO buffers and follow the money, but NCSoft stays quiet and IGI, BuffsAlot, and Jonny’s toon do it on 3 different servers. All owned by ex or current NOVA.
The Averge Joe's cant fight that kind of RL money being spent. All we can do is enjoy our little piece of our small pond away from the people who can. So no we don’t want a merger we moved away from NOVA.
These nova fellas cry a lot.. last time I browsed their CWH... you couldn't count easily over 500b.. from blessed anthy, val, normal ones, baiums, AQs.. more R99 gear than many clans in other servers.. and an insignificant 17b adena.
If you guys are bored.. donate half of that to your enemies and you'll probably have more PVP.
You can also try to quit the "Pay-2-Win" life.. or give it a rest.. it will reduce your frustration.