We are currently experiencing technical difficulties bringing the servers back online. The issue is being investigated right now. I cannot give an ETA on when it will be fixed.
hope you will finish fast:) looking forward for server to be up asap and yea will be any compensation ?
regards
compensation?!?!?!
for what exactly you want to get compensated?
the money theydont charge you? the time you didn't loose?
do you even know what "compensation" means and how it works? ROTFL!!!
well i don't want or need any compensation but at a second thought those who bought xp rune and xp 24/7 are loosing some time , right ? :) minutes, but every minute counts isn't it? :)
So I'm curious, we didn't get fixes last week because you were "testing" them. And yet now when we do you can't even get the servers to really come online for any length of time. Do you test them for bugs and only release an update if it has bugs?
The ppl that bought Xp runes (including me) know that there is a scheduled maintenance every week. Something that mostly takes 4 hours, but sometimes more.
That is why it will always give an estimated time on the maintenance announcement, and not a fixed time.
So no, I am not looking for compensation on XP runes, and neither should anyone that bought them.
The ppl that bought Xp runes (including me) know that there is a scheduled maintenance every week. Something that mostly takes 4 hours, but sometimes more.
That is why it will always give an estimated time on the maintenance announcement, and not a fixed time.
So no, I am not looking for compensation on XP runes, and neither should anyone that bought them.
in that case everytime they say there is maintenance for 3-4 hrs and are up after 2hrs 45min, i want to see them complain that the servers are up too early :rolleyes:
I have to admit i appreciate Juji's taging the listed possible actions going on atm with a response. Its good to know in moments of crisis you can see that.
I think if you want compensated for lost time, you should read a book, listen to some music, take a walk, talk to someone you havent talked to in a long time or do something with your life= that should enrich your soul and maybe help you to see L2 for what it is.
I think if you want compensated for lost time, you should read a book, listen to some music, take a walk, talk to someone you havent talked to in a long time or do something with your life
This game is my life, all ppl i can talk are in this game too :o
well i don't want or need any compensation but at a second thought those who bought xp rune and xp 24/7 are loosing some time , right ? :) minutes, but every minute counts isn't it? :)
Holly every guy who play here long know that maintance is every week at same time, so they are ready probably for this situation:P
compensation?!?!?!
for what exactly you want to get compensated?
the money theydont charge you? the time you didn't loose?
do you even know what "compensation" means and how it works? ROTFL!!!
wow... really? you honestly dont know what he is talking about?
he is asking to be compensated and you have no idea on what he is talking about at all? no clue? nothing comes to mind at all?
wow... really? you honestly dont know what he is talking about?
he is asking to be compensated and you have no idea on what he is talking about at all? no clue? nothing comes to mind at all?
Just amazing...
So please then, tell us what he is supposed to be compensated for?
this is what happens when you don't have anyone with half a brain to run/maintain the server, and apply patches the right way and you depend on the Korean folks to fix the mess you create locally.
this is what happens when you don't have anyone with half a brain to run/maintain the server, and apply patches the right way and you depend on the Korean folks to fix the mess you create locally.
hi
when will you start your own loljava brazil server? i wanna join!
So please then, tell us what he is supposed to be compensated for?
It seems so vague, even you cannot describe it...
you are.... less than amazing.
I'll put it like this - the game itself is free but there are goods in it that are bought for money and are tied to the availability of the servers. So when the servers are down and the fault is in the provider compensation is due, huh?
It's like pay for a move on your PPV and it's not delivered due to the unavailability of the network.
I love those people who preach for free to play, OK for you it's free to play, lets say you don't spend money in the store/galleria, if this is the case please after those who are paying customers do receive their compensations go and ask the support to remove yours.
P.S. n no I'm not saying that i want compensation. I really don't give a flying buck for it. I just hate smart plotholes who act like they're on NCSoft's payroll.
lol ppl u all take urselves so seriously, apart from the ppl that actually answer with a funny quote etc, the word "compensation" does not necessarily mean "i want my money back", in my case the word "compensation" just means maybe some gm buffs maybe a new refill again on vita, something simple that helps in game, nothing else.
is that the *Mount thingy* thats in the Ingame store ?
Rocking horse or smthng similar to that <,<
1st time i see it , but it kinda looks cool if it is
Was there some sort of rollback after the 1st crash?
In Shilen, we were just killing Ipos right after maintenance was done, and he had ~20% HP left when the server crashed. When I was able to log back in, Ipos wasn't there. No EXP gained either.
Any chance he would respawn soon, or he's actually killed for now?
I'll put it like this - the game itself is free but there are goods in it that are bought for money and are tied to the availability of the servers. So when the servers are down and the fault is in the provider compensation is due, huh?
It's like pay for a move on your PPV and it's not delivered due to the unavailability of the network.
I love those people who preach for free to play, OK for you it's free to play, lets say you don't spend money in the store/galleria, if this is the case please after those who are paying customers do receive their compensations go and ask the support to remove yours.
P.S. n no I'm not saying that i want compensation. I really don't give a flying buck for it. I just hate smart plotholes who act like they're on NCSoft's payroll.
Can you go read the maintenance post?
Are you saying that the customer who buys anything at all, is free to be oblvious to a weekly maintenance that has been around for ages, and can claim compensation at will?
It says approximately 4 hours, not exactly 4 hours...
I dislike "smart plotholes" who act like the world owes them something for being uninformed and naive.
Was there some sort of rollback after the 1st crash?
In Shilen, we were just killing Ipos right after maintenance was done, and he had ~20% HP left when the server crashed. When I was able to log back in, Ipos wasn't there. No EXP gained either.
Any chance he would respawn soon, or he's actually killed for now?
someone else killed him ... we did that on bartz with naga ... had 10% left when server went down ... when it came back on zerker + warlock + raps dead in 40 seconds full exp on just does 2 ... went from 74 to 77
I think you didn't notice but... we're kidding bro:D
you might be kidding but there like 20 ppl that cry for free stuff because something went wrong during the maintenance ... i would understand them asking for something if this happen in another day except this 1
Are you saying that the customer who buys anything at all, is free to be oblvious to a weekly maintenance that has been around for ages, and can claim compensation at will?
It says approximately 4 hours, not exactly 4 hours...
I dislike "smart plotholes" who act like the world owes them something for being uninformed and naive.
Since I'm not ignorant uninformed naive plothole like you I can quote you thousands of precedents of court decisions referring to the approximate estimations given by IT companies and their interpretations. I can assure you that approximately four hours for the "industry standards" on which courts usually base their decisions in such cases is definitely not five and a half.
But if you want a resume about those cases you'll have to wait till tomorrow. I do believe our legal department would have quite some of the aforementioned being defendants on not one or two of those.
still down? GMs since ure still working on this.. why dont you fix that clan request bugg as well? Its boring if you do it alone!.. how can u call it clan request if only one person can enter? O_o
is that the *Mount thingy* thats in the Ingame store ?
Rocking horse or smthng similar to that <,<
1st time i see it , but it kinda looks cool if it is
Yup that's the Rocking Horse.
I was looking for something lame to ride during an event, read "Rocking Horse" so I figured that would do. It turned out being awesome!
Update: We're still investigating the issue with different ways to resolve it. You may see the servers go back up, but they are still undergoing maintenance and could go down during this time. I strongly recommend to hold off on using items/going into instances until we determine that the servers are stable.
Update: We're still investigating the issue with different ways to resolve it. You may see the servers go back up, but they are still undergoing maintenance and could go down during this time. I strongly recommend to hold off on using items/going into instances until we determine that the servers are stable.
Not sure if servers troll us, or they want to become elevators...
wow... really? you honestly dont know what he is talking about?
he is asking to be compensated and you have no idea on what he is talking about at all? no clue? nothing comes to mind at all?
Just amazing...
why dont you enlighten us then LOL :D
NCSOFT, don't you realize that when the servers are down the in-game L2 store cannot perform it's function of selling things to people?
If people cannot spend NCcoin, they don't need to buy NCcoin.
I'm trying to motivate you to get the servers up.
By getting the servers up people will buy and spend NCcoin. This will make NCsoft happy, as they are selling their NCcoins for profit, and also make players happy as they will be able to get into their game.
So if it takes a whole stable full of horses to get you motivated, so be it.
Are you saying that the customer who buys anything at all, is free to be oblvious to a weekly maintenance that has been around for ages, and can claim compensation at will?
It says approximately 4 hours, not exactly 4 hours...
I dislike "smart plotholes" who act like the world owes them something for being uninformed and naive.
just in advance before the "its been more than 4hrs" complaints start:
technically since the servers where up already now twice its not maintenance anymore.
@idiots that scream for compensation:
com·pen·sa·tion
noun \ˌkäm-pən-ˈsā-shən, -ˌpen-\
Definition of COMPENSATION
1
a : the act of compensating (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compensating) : the state of being compensated (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compensated)
b : correction of an organic defect or loss by hypertrophy or by increased functioning of another organ or unimpaired parts of the same organ
c : a psychological mechanism by which feelings of inferiority, frustration, or failure in one field are counterbalanced by achievement in another
now again define your loss you have had because runes that are ticking regardless if you XP or not XP during the weekly occurring maintenance don't count.
"To help optimize server performance, we’re cleaning up the Lineage II database. Qualifying characters will be scheduled for deletion during our weekly maintenance on June 5th, 2013.
The good news? All you have to do to keep your character alive is to log in anytime between now and June 5th, 2013, 5:00 AM PDT.
Benefits
Better server performance.
Shorter server downtime.
Plenty of character names will become available."
When does the better server performance and shorter server downtime come into play?
Dude!!! That does look good. Why is this the first I've heard of this? What the heck have I been doing with my life????!!!
dont like eating fresh fruit coz it tastes too healthy? try dipping them in nutella!
Niceone, done this fewtimes like 9 years ago, didn't had troubles gettin served at mcdonalds drive back then (in Czech rep.) :D Reminds me of a very good times during university studies :D
"To help optimize server performance, we’re cleaning up the Lineage II database. Qualifying characters will be scheduled for deletion during our weekly maintenance on June 5th, 2013.
The good news? All you have to do to keep your character alive is to log in anytime between now and June 5th, 2013, 5:00 AM PDT.
Benefits
Better server performance.
Shorter server downtime.
Plenty of character names will become available."
When does the better server performance and shorter server downtime come into play?
well! since that date a lot of new characters created! server performance is taking part of all! u can't have 5 toons on to check raids and 5 shops! it's like asking for miracles! to be honest servers ARE lighter after that date! the issue with loading has been corrected, survitors keep buffs, npcs spawn fast! (y i managed to log for 2 mins before server down again :P)! i'm not talking about the toons personally but many idiots do that like there isn't Auction House or u can't tp somewhere to check! Aden for example! 70% shops!
Since I'm not ignorant uninformed naive plothole like you I can quote you thousands of precedents of court decisions referring to the approximate estimations given by IT companies and their interpretations. I can assure you that approximately four hours for the "industry standards" on which courts usually base their decisions in such cases is definitely not five and a half.
But if you want a resume about those cases you'll have to wait till tomorrow. I do believe our legal department would have quite some of the aforementioned being defendants on not one or two of those.
I do believe the word aproximately means they arent forced to compensate for nothing still. No matter what you think is industry standard.
Also curious if you have ever read the entire EULA, since you seem to think you are so good with the law :D
just in advance before the "its been more than 4hrs" complaints start:
technically since the servers where up already now twice its not maintenance anymore.
@idiots that scream for compensation:
now again define your loss you have had because runes that are ticking regardless if you XP or not XP during the weekly occurring maintenance don't count.
I did, use the search. The products (I'm talking about all of them) NCSoft sell in their free to play model are tied to the availability of another free service. Therefore compensation is due cause of the inability to use certain product that you purchased.
I already explained the word approximately. No matter if you go with the industry standards interpretation or like some of the courts in the US prefer - the dictionary meaning of the word we're past both. Precedents of dictionary interpretation say everything that is below or above "and a half".
I'll explain since you look a little bit thick. In case of 4 hours courts would say the usual meaning of approximately is between 3 and a half and 4 and a half. And the industry standard for routine procedure like maintenance would put it between 3 hours and 45 minutes and 4 hours and 15 minutes if we use some more strict court practices and if we use the most lenient one I've ever encountered - 3 hours and 15 minutes and 4 hours and 45 minutes. Lets say between 3 and 5 hours which we're past.
Now ask yourself who is ridiculous and who is not?
P.S. I'm going out drinking so feel free to keep the discussion with someone else. I really don't care :D. I was just bored enough to answer. Might happen in few months again. Have fun.
P.P.S. GL to NC staff fixing this, I feel for you, had quite some of those over the years.
P.P.P.S. If it's not maintenance anymore that puts the company you and the other guy love so much in even worse position btw...
When does the better server performance and shorter server downtime come into play?
There are many different factors that can be the cause of issues for a server. You have a machine with hardware that can fail, a network that can become unstable, general/necessary software on the host machine that can cause problems, or most likely in this case the actual Lineage 2 server software.
Since the database clean-up overall mass lag has seemed to clear. Fairly noticeable difference from some months ago. It needs to be remembered that updates Lineage 2 north america receives are often directly from Korea, which has a different setup.
It's very ignorant of people to continually nag to have problems resolved when it is being worked on and going to take as long as it's going to take. At least wide spread issues on maintenance day. Truly-Free™ Lineage II is a money sink and you can expect the game staff want the service online and stable.
Add new items to the L2 Store to distract us from the current server issue... similar smoke and mirrors has worked in the past should work for this situation.
Originally Posted by Quelen View Post
I don't care how long it takes 1h, 1 day or even 1 week, but please don't bring server back online without summoners bug fixed.
Remember what Juji said, we're still working on the issue, so you might see servers go up and down for a bit. I wouldn't do anything meaningful at the moment until we've given the green light that it's fully fixed.
As for compensation, please stop fight about it. The team will discuss it once the server issue has been fixed.
Remember what Juji said, we're still working on the issue, so you might see servers go up and down for a bit. I wouldn't do anything meaningful at the moment until we've given the green light that it's fully fixed.
As for compensation, please stop fight about it. The team will discuss it once the server issue has been fixed.
You want to compensate them for giving them 2 more hours of real life? Sure! Give them 10 adena each and lets continue with our lifes!
Lol what makes me laugh about people moaning about the servitor bug is, I subbed a sum, it's now 85 and I've had no real issues with my summons losing buffs and why? because I heal and cure, I just don't let them die, and if they do happen to die then that's my fault, I'll just soe resummon and rebuff, I know that can be a pain if you've got a nice hunting spot but hey oh, it's not a major issue (not for me at least) xD
"It's very ignorant of people to continually nag to have problems resolved when it is being worked on and going to take as long as it's going to take."
Nah I don't think people are nagging, we are just passing time in the forum community discussing L2 stuff. Who has a better right to discussion than the players of the game?
So I think you should not be ignorant in that way of talking about the players.
Lol what makes me laugh about people moaning about the servitor bug is, I subbed a sum, it's now 85 and I've had no real issues with my summons losing buffs and why? because I heal and cure, I just don't let them die, and if they do happen to die then that's my fault, I'll just soe resummon and rebuff, I know that can be a pain if you've got a nice hunting spot but hey oh, it's not a major issue (not for me at least) xD
Pls go lvl up a bit, and go do Istina, try to have your superior skill move slow reacting pets out of acid before they get literally 2 shotted (half hp loss twice), and then tell me how you cure and heal them and how its still not an issue.
Regular pve is fine, but thats not what ppl were annoyed with on summoner. Its the situations you have where your pets almost instantly die. Execution grounds has mobs that leathals your pet down to 1 hp, I guess you just heal all that hp in no time at all before any other mob aoe?
The issue was never for lvl 85 summoners on adventurer buffs.
I do believe the word aproximately means they arent forced to compensate for nothing still. No matter what you think is industry standard.
Also curious if you have ever read the entire EULA, since you seem to think you are so good with the law :D
Funny enough I don't think I'm good in law that's why I use legal counsel. Also funny enough but I went through it once in another occasion - when NCSoft decided to land a ban-hammer. Also funny enough but if you read the laws under which NCWest is operating you'll find it a very laughable document in a lot of it's points. But of course people like you and the other NCWest lover would never think about it cause you're so happy with the service provided by them :cool:. Unfortunately the no cash value you are pointing to is an exclusion clause that quite a lot of courts will declare void as unreasonable due to the obvious fact that NCoins are obtained through a cash payment. Oh funny enough if you took some time to check you'd notice they can do so, you'd also notice a obvious precedent in which happened late last year. But oh well you appear to know all so I guess no point to enlighten you more :cool:
Remember what Juji said, we're still working on the issue, so you might see servers go up and down for a bit. I wouldn't do anything meaningful at the moment until we've given the green light that it's fully fixed.
As for compensation, please stop fight about it. The team will discuss it once the server issue has been fixed.
Can you ban bots as compensation???
I'm amused how you decided to waltz out of the conversation as soon as your beloved argument went puff...
And that's exactly why you're a clown.
See you in the circus.
"funny enough" I didnt waltz out. I just cant keep reading the ramblings of a 12 year old, anyone older than that would realize that repeating a phrase that many times will make ppl stop reading.
If you think you have a case, go sue NCsoft. And shoot me a pm with the result.
I'll be over here on the sane side, NOT holding my breath for it.
So play your other class then, your not paying for the bloody game, and I was saying I had no issues with it thanks. Try reading instead of assuming :)
I could understand if this was pay to play, but it's not so stop bloody whinging and whining, go out and have some fun or something, but don't sit there and lecture me about something that hasn't even been bugged for that long. Get off your high horse and realise your getting all whiney over pixels and something that is free.
"funny enough" I didnt waltz out. I just cant keep reading the ramblings of a 12 year old, anyone older than that would realize that repeating a phrase that many times will make ppl stop reading.
If you think you have a case, go sue NCsoft. And shoot me a pm with the result.
I'll be over here on the sane side, NOT holding my breath for it.
Calling unknown people 12 years old on the internet means you're a 14 years old after his first cider, not exactly a big accomplishment but on your level, you think you own the world. Go ahead and enjoy it, you silly, little clown.
So play your other class then, your not paying for the bloody game, and I was saying I had no issues with it thanks. Try reading instead of assuming :)
I could understand if this was pay to play, but it's not so stop bloody whinging and whining, go out and have some fun or something, but don't sit there and lecture me about something that hasn't even been bugged for that long. Get off your high horse and realise your getting all whiney over pixels and something that is free.
Good day to you whiner :)
As for everyone else have fun guys!
I guess you assumed I was whining instead of just informing you why ppl were having issues with the bug.
I did 90 to 95 in a week on my summoner, even with the bug in place, the problem isnt in regular pve.
Calling unknown people 12 years old on the internet means you're a 14 years old after his first cider, not exactly a big accomplishment but on your level, you think you own the world. Go ahead and enjoy it, you silly, little clown.
Well said.
"funny enough" I didnt waltz out. I just cant keep reading the ramblings of a 12 year old, anyone older than that would realize that repeating a phrase that many times will make ppl stop reading.
If you think you have a case, go sue NCsoft. And shoot me a pm with the result.
I'll be over here on the sane side, NOT holding my breath for it.
Why would I sue them when i stated few times I don't give a flying buck about this whole situation. The only thing that made me post is you and the other jester (I'd use fool, but it might be interpreted as offense) who act like NCWest employees instead of customers. And I do hate people who don't even get payed to perform the world's oldest profession.
Calling unknown people 12 years old on the internet means you're a 14 years old after his first cider, not exactly a big accomplishment but on your level, you think you own the world. Go ahead and enjoy it, you silly, little clown.
Looks like someone is trying on the big boy pants.
Your the only person on a high horse here, quoting your level like thats something to be proud of. Again it's a game, who cares what level you are or aren't. Your just one of those keyboard warriors that sits and finds fault with everything that people say. It's ok though, whatever floats your boat, I'm done talking to someone that talks down to others to make themselves feel better. I won't be reading your posts or paying any attention to them :) I've better things to do than argue with a keyboard warrior.
Why would I sue them when i stated few times I don't give a flying buck about this whole situation. The only thing that made me post is you and the other jester (I'd use fool, but it might be interpreted as offense) who act like NCWest employees instead of customers. And I do hate people who don't even get payed to perform the world's oldest profession.
If you arent gonna sue, why bring up legal council? You make even less sense now lol.
As for working for NCsoft, I dont need to be employed by them to use common sense.
Its not a war of players vs NCsoft. There is no sides. If I can realize that they have no obligation to compensate you for having a maintenance take longer than the "aproximate" time, maybe others can as well. Are you gonna call everyone a ***** at some point?
Your the only person on a high horse here, quoting your level like thats something to be proud of. Again it's a game, who cares what level you are or aren't. Your just one of those keyboard warriors that sits and finds fault with everything that people say. It's ok though, whatever floats your boat, I'm done talking to someone that talks down to others to make themselves feel better. I won't be reading your posts or paying any attention to them :) I've better things to do than argue with a keyboard warrior.
Im not even 95 anymore, I wasnt quoting my lvl, just telling you the bug had no impact on MY grind either, the bug interefered with ppl doing certain raids and pvping.
It's ok though, I'm done trying to get you to understand what the issue was about, since you are too busy attacking others to feel better about your sorry self.
JUST STOP THE BOTS OR ALLOW TO BOT.
AND Adms , if you dont fix the problem today. You must give a compensation for those who are buying the prestige pack. Remember the Prestige Cube. Ok?
Cya..
I did, use the search. The products (I'm talking about all of them) NCSoft sell in their free to play model are tied to the availability of another free service. Therefore compensation is due cause of the inability to use certain product that you purchased.
I already explained the word approximately. No matter if you go with the industry standards interpretation or like some of the courts in the US prefer - the dictionary meaning of the word we're past both. Precedents of dictionary interpretation say everything that is below or above "and a half".
I'll explain since you look a little bit thick. In case of 4 hours courts would say the usual meaning of approximately is between 3 and a half and 4 and a half. And the industry standard for routine procedure like maintenance would put it between 3 hours and 45 minutes and 4 hours and 15 minutes if we use some more strict court practices and if we use the most lenient one I've ever encountered - 3 hours and 15 minutes and 4 hours and 45 minutes. Lets say between 3 and 5 hours which we're past.
Now ask yourself who is ridiculous and who is not?
P.S. I'm going out drinking so feel free to keep the discussion with someone else. I really don't care :D. I was just bored enough to answer. Might happen in few months again. Have fun.
P.P.S. GL to NC staff fixing this, I feel for you, had quite some of those over the years.
P.P.P.S. If it's not maintenance anymore that puts the company you and the other guy love so much in even worse position btw...
again: the servers where up for briefly 5 minutes, so its not a 4hrs+ downtime anymore
again: you can not be compensated for anything you dont have a loss with in the first place
furthermore i dont think any court defines "aprox" as +- 30min. you cant just make things up for the sake of your argument lol
"The products NCSoft sell in their free to play model are tied to the availability of another free service. Therefore compensation is due cause of the inability to use certain product that you purchased"
wrong again! you can not claim compensation for something you didnt get a loss in the first place. in example: maintenance is scheduled weekly, therefore its a calculated loss. much like you can't sue your city for a red light that is holding you up for 10 seconds too long only because you are paying your taxes. you cant sue your landlord for fixing your apartment because he asked you to leave it for a few hours.
however, after all this downtime and your trolling and whining about it, i am sure the GM's will let you take a cat buff or something as a "compensation" for the unusual long wait.
If you want compensation post an add on craigslist offering happy endings. Lineage2 is not your Pimp or your John... They do not offer happy endings only automated players peeing all over the server leaving an odor!
Another idea for compensantion: easy way to get pendants! I have spend a lot of adena in treasure boxes like 150... and no way... :(
If you arent gonna sue, why bring up legal council? You make even less sense now lol.
As for working for NCsoft, I dont need to be employed by them to use common sense.
Its not a war of players vs NCsoft. There is no sides. If I can realize that they have no obligation to compensate you for having a maintenance take longer than the "aproximate" time, maybe others can as well. Are you gonna call everyone a ***** at some point?
Which point that I made didn't go through? I'm really not used to deal with slow people whose only work is to post in the forums so I'm a bit lost here. So please, oh please, you mighty forum knight with shining armor tell me where was I wrong. Enlighten me.
And as of why I'd go through the aforementioned document with lawyer, not that I owe you explanation, because I wanted to have solid arguments when contacting support about a ban I got, I had one nearby, and he doesn't charge me by the hour.
Haven't it happened to you to sit in the office and suddenly catch someone from the legal? Oh no you might have been too busy to post in defense of random companies at the time they were passing by :D.
It's ok though, I'm done trying to get you to understand what the issue was about, since you are too busy attacking others to feel better about your sorry self.
again: the servers where up for briefly 5 minutes, so its not a 4hrs+ downtime anymore
again: you can not be compensated for anything you dont have a loss with in the first place
furthermore i dont think any court defines "aprox" as +- 30min. you cant just make things up for the sake of your argument lol
"The products NCSoft sell in their free to play model are tied to the availability of another free service. Therefore compensation is due cause of the inability to use certain product that you purchased"
wrong again! you can not claim compensation for something you didnt get a loss in the first place. in example: maintenance is scheduled weekly, therefore its a calculated loss. much like you can't sue your city for a red light that is holding you up for 10 seconds too long only because you are paying your taxes. you cant sue your landlord for fixing your apartment because he asked you to leave it for a few hours.
however, after all this downtime and your trolling and whining about it, i am sure the GM's will let you take a cat buff or something as a "compensation" for the unusual long wait.
Read you fool. Exclusion clauses like this are attackable in court. Exclusion clauses like this are declared void by the majority of the courts in the US. Not everything you read in a contract is actual contractual relation when it comes to a dispute. How hard is to understand this...
I advised you once to use the search before you post. It was good advise, follow it.
Why would I sue them when i stated few times I don't give a flying buck about this whole situation. The only thing that made me post is you and the other jester (I'd use fool, but it might be interpreted as offense) who act like NCWest employees instead of customers. And I do hate people who don't even get payed to perform the world's oldest profession. http://imageshack.us/a/img708/6606/impliedfacepalmd.jpg