personally i thin 50k-70k damage with br is low compared with actual damage done by dds, especially as a lvl 96 or 99
idk much about this class even if i have this sub on some alt so i wont comment of its usefulness
grtz but those stats are nothing special.. not really.. except for the cast speed my tank has better..
but hey at least you've a very unique char :)
which stats ? where ? he has 1500 atk speed what can be more impresive ?:D 1501 ? :) speaking about stats i'l make full buffed toon screenshot for crack.
which stats ? where ? he has 1500 atk speed what can be more impresive ?:D 1501 ? :) speaking about stats i'l make full buffed toon screenshot for crack.
I meant it literary aka all stats on my tank except the casting speed
regardless judicator is a nice class, don't really get it why koreans ditched it..
My kamael is spectral dancer and when she's angry she hits istina for 100-130 and has normaly 30+ p.atk with BR, so I don't get it? This must show how KiraTheJustice (100% sure it's him) didnt take 4th class and acts OH SO STRONK?
Just gimme Iss Judi and shatap with the lol threads, seriously...
My kamael is spectral dancer and when she's angry she hits istina for 100-130 and has normaly 30+ p.atk with BR, so I don't get it? This must show how KiraTheJustice (100% sure it's him) didnt take 4th class and acts OH SO STRONK?
Just gimme Iss Judi and shatap with the lol threads, seriously...
Uh Oh so much anger :D u mad ? :) Your iss spectral kamael do not give apetite of destruction to your party and it cannot debuf spite on istina thou.So yah "OH SO STRONK" :D
Uh Oh so much anger :D u mad ? :) Your iss spectral kamael do not give apetite of destruction to your party and it cannot debuf spite on istina thou.So yah "OH SO STRONK" :D
I had them on +30, remove the harmoies and it gives destruction you monkey, learn what skills I keep and what not! + spite never lands even on lolkartia 85
I had them on +30, remove the harmoies and it gives destruction you monkey, learn what skills I keep and what not! + spite never lands even on lolkartia 85
P.S I rage so much that ppls can't play!:3
Learn what ? :D why u so mad on my judicator ? Why i should care about some lol kartia 85. It perfectly lands on istina , spezion , frinteza oO , teredor , its lands on field raid thou . Its amazing how nice it is :D . I luve it, its just Awesome ) . Gogo girl rage.
Btw what skill u kept with your ISS ) Vampiric impulse ? :D its probably very usefull )
Learn what ? :D why u so mad on my judicator ? Why i should care about some lol kartia 85. It perfectly lands on istina , spezion , frinteza oO , teredor , its lands on field raid thou . Its amazing how nice it is :D . I luve it, its just Awesome ) . Gogo girl rage.
Btw what skill u kept with your ISS ) Vampiric impulse ? :D its probably very usefull )
You trade apetite for BR which is better? Oh ****! Sherlock your dream has been lost... BR works with harmonies, while appetite or imulse dont!
You trade apetite for BR which is better? Oh ****! Sherlock your dream has been lost... BR works with harmonies, while appetite or imulse dont!
i won't even try to argue with a monkey about br and apetite. Imo its 2 different skills they stacks to be honest :D .
ok i explain you monkey style :
BR stacks with harmony= good
Apetite = 30% better than harmony
BR stack with apetite = 30% better than with harmony
Conclusion combo BR+Apetite=better 30%
BR+harmony=worse 30%
which one u chose ? :D.
And probably thats why kamael iss who awakened is so mad on jucator lvl 99 :D
it's all about play style and let's be honest judicator is only good for raids, it's not like you would play that for sieges cause then missing harmonies would be suicidal ;)
Well ya i never said i would go to siege with judicator :D i have my main for that. But all other tralala stuff ingame is good toon . I chose to lvl him up and i enjoyed it all the way. The sad part was that spite not landed on raids like Wyrm. That would do big difference. And probably Wyrm would be down prelindvior. Well that not hapened but anyway ).
For sieges feoh is good until you not aoe double reflected toons in a bunch.
Please tell me more how whole party will remove harmonies just to have 15 seconds 30% better stats which will be WAY WORSE after the 15 SECS for the time you'll need to rebuff HARMONIES and please tell me more HOW, I WONT HAVE 2 HEALERS in pt, but JUDICATOR + ISS
I am not "mad" for been awoken iss, I am "angry" (learn what mad means kid) at the fact that when I awoke I was judicator untill the end and now I am a ******* dark elf class...
When you learn what's good and what's bad and when you learn Judicator then call me a monkey and learn what "mad" means you little anoying clown...
it's all about play style and let's be honest judicator is only good for raids, it's not like you would play that for sieges cause then missing harmonies would be suicidal ;)
To be honest Draecke you never miss a harmony. Harmony is replaced just for that moment when party boosts dps for maximum. When party is ready to kill. There is apetite raps equal time 30secs. Then you have soul instinct for 15 secs by that time all dds's regain back warrior , or knights or whatever. I mean that 30secs are burst of damage.
but in one thing you are correct non awakened character have penalty in damage to awakened, unlike pve it has none penalties. So basicly judi is not pvp toon. Its rly arguable how it could be done thou .
Its complicated calculations best way is just do it and look, and test. I never had proper pvp party going with my toon. I mean lets say put my toon to Martelx pt instead 1 yul . Its you know hmmm It would work better i think than with 4 yuls )
Please tell me more how whole party will remove harmonies just to have 15 seconds 30% better stats which will be WAY WORSE after the 15 SECS for the time you'll need to rebuff HARMONIES and please tell me more HOW, I WONT HAVE 2 HEALERS in pt, but JUDICATOR + ISS
I am not "mad" for been awoken iss, I am "angry" (learn what mad means kid) at the fact that when I awoke I was judicator untill the end and now I am a ******* dark elf class...
When you learn what's good and what's bad and when you learn Judicator then call me a monkey and learn what "mad" means you little anoying clown...
hide somwhere monkey :D u make a clown of yourself. You speak about things you don't know. +30 time apetite has 30secons = full BR of dps. after apetite fade judicator use SOUL INSTINCT which is still better than wariors harmony i dont know how handless iss have to be not rebuff warior harmonys in 15 second to 4 dd ? :D anything else kid ?
And in this mather you lose NOTHING just gain pure more dps.
Please tell me more how whole party will remove harmonies just to have 15 seconds 30% better stats which will be WAY WORSE after the 15 SECS for the time you'll need to rebuff HARMONIES and please tell me more HOW, I WONT HAVE 2 HEALERS in pt, but JUDICATOR + ISS
I am not "mad" for been awoken iss, I am "angry" (learn what mad means kid) at the fact that when I awoke I was judicator untill the end and now I am a ******* dark elf class...
When you learn what's good and what's bad and when you learn Judicator then call me a monkey and learn what "mad" means you little anoying clown...
Its still amazing how this female kamael iss rage :D geez never could think about it :D. The idea of my toon makin u crazy ? ) it probably doesn't fit in your small brains thats why u so raging.
i won't even try to argue with a monkey about br and apetite. Imo its 2 different skills they stacks to be honest :D .
ok i explain you monkey style :
BR stacks with harmony= good
Apetite = 30% better than harmony
BR stack with apetite = 30% better than with harmony
Conclusion combo BR+Apetite=better 30%
BR+harmony=worse 30%
which one u chose ? :D.
And probably thats why kamael iss who awakened is so mad on jucator lvl 99 :D
you take a party slot with your judi, instead of you party might as well take second iss with second br.
iss+judi = br+apetite with no harm and only once
iss+iss = br with harm and twice
People don't know what "rage" means... and say that I rage, this thread is pointless and corrupted by children that have no idea of L2 and just want to anoy...
Please tell me more how whole party will remove harmonies just to have 15 seconds 30% better stats which will be WAY WORSE after the 15 SECS for the time you'll need to rebuff HARMONIES and please tell me more HOW, I WONT HAVE 2 HEALERS in pt, but JUDICATOR + ISS
I am not "mad" for been awoken iss, I am "angry" (learn what mad means kid) at the fact that when I awoke I was judicator untill the end and now I am a ******* dark elf class...
When you learn what's good and what's bad and when you learn Judicator then call me a monkey and learn what "mad" means you little anoying clown...
You keep telling people to learn, you offer to teach them sometimes but... until is not spelled untill, annoying is spelled with double "n" and the phrase at the end would sound correct like this: "you annoying little clown"
Oh and angry is defined as being mad.
Oh please learn English before you tell people to do it next time.
I cant understand why Soules is going emo on such a topic,I suppose you need to see a doctor.Anyway,On topic a Judicator in a PvP party is kind of useless cause he will die extremely fast from AoE so Its not a wise choice for PvP but since i have had ifazass on my party on a Tauti i must tell you the damage is incredibly awesome on Raids much more than the damage the party would do with 1 More DD or With 1 more BR.Best choice as 3rd slot of DD on raids.Good debuff and good buff.
something like that. Still can go higher for sure :) all this is considering dual is geared r95 +3 . Nothing fancy.
...and all possible buffs, you forgot to mention that . as you playing it as melee, a tyrr still has better stats with regular iss buffs and nothing fancy either xD
with same buffs my lol tank would have same/better except of the cast speed ya ah and my matt is much higher but still as said who cares as long as you have fun :D
with same buffs my lol tank would have same/better except of the cast speed ya ah and my matt is much higher but still as said who cares as long as you have fun :D
Yes but your tank is nothing special or unique. I admire OP and this character looks lie funny one to play.
Na, I'm not implying that istina matters, but if it lands on Octavis/Tauti/Extreme raids/Dragons then it could be very helpful. I'm not sure it would, but it'd make those raids that much faster.
Na, I'm not implying that istina matters, but if it lands on Octavis/Tauti/Extreme raids/Dragons then it could be very helpful. I'm not sure it would, but it'd make those raids that much faster.
Well you quoted Fathips post, which pretty much said it doesnt...
Well you quoted Fathips post, which pretty much said it doesnt...
I don't think we've tested on all the higher bosses. I heard someone tried on Anthy and it didn't land, but not sure how many times they tried and what jewels they had on it.
Yea, already have that. Can still stack more buffs on top of that.
oO i would like to see shilen templar with judi in 1 party with some youls :D btw canseling harmnony eventualy becoming usual thing, like using raps :).
It's interesting to see a dual class judicator , but i can't see why someone would lvl up a class
to have only 2-3 usefull skills for few raids only, and be a useless dead-weight everywhere else around
It's interesting to see a dual class judicator , but i can't see why someone would lvl up a class
to have only 2-3 usefull skills for few raids only, and be a useless dead-weight everywhere else around
For as you say "else around" you always can use main class is it ? :D i thought its very obvious Dr. Watson besides ... there is many pplz who can't even see what's in front of their noses not mention ability to see a bigger picture )).
canceling harmony and adding judicator becomes much better if you are buffing greater might/zerk also (you could use a milk pot to get berserk)
unfortunately with sonatas you cannot get cat buff, which is really what the new awakened buffs are missing, so in the end its whatever unless you go for the full bd/sws/cat/wc/judi set up
canceling harmony and adding judicator becomes much better if you are buffing greater might/zerk also (you could use a milk pot to get berserk)
unfortunately with sonatas you cannot get cat buff, which is really what the new awakened buffs are missing, so in the end its whatever unless you go for the full bd/sws/cat/wc/judi set up
oO aw didn't try to do that :D will do thx for tip ;)
canceling harmony and adding judicator becomes much better if you are buffing greater might/zerk also (you could use a milk pot to get berserk)
unfortunately with sonatas you cannot get cat buff, which is really what the new awakened buffs are missing, so in the end its whatever unless you go for the full bd/sws/cat/wc/judi set up
Also you can add Combat Aura from un-awakened tank if you are going with no sonatas
I don't think we've tested on all the higher bosses. I heard someone tried on Anthy and it didn't land, but not sure how many times they tried and what jewels they had on it.
My suspicion is the max level that a +28 spite will land on (regardless if its 28, 29, 30, or cost or chance enchant) is 93, due to being 8 lvls above the skill (+28 skill is level 85); anything above 8 levels the mob will be "red" to the skill and will land with 0%
so, any boss above that the judicator serves no purpose, and no boss below that matters other than for farming adena
My suspicion is the max level that a +28 spite will land on (regardless if its 28, 29, 30, or cost or chance enchant) is 93, due to being 8 lvls above the skill (+28 skill is level 85); anything above 8 levels the mob will be "red" to the skill and will land with 0%
so, any boss above that the judicator serves no purpose, and no boss below that matters other than for farming adena
Thats apply to "debuff" , but buff still goes on characters itself and when u stacking those extraordinary buffs with ISS u get something unusual )) . Yes they removed some stacks but ncsoft didnt removed all of them same as old skills making imbalance in olympiad.