Lab Test 102 - Tauti Weapon VS R99 PvP Weapon

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~Request by nick4ever~
Test: Tauti weapon VS R99 pvp wepon.
Question: Which weapon make more DMG in pvp? VS 300 element resist armor (tauti have 450 element attack)
Reason: I want to know it before buy tauti or r99 weapon pvp... Attacker: Tyrr Duelist Level 99
Attacker Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots and Heavenly Cocktail Buffs (lvl 2)
Defender: Tyrr Duelist Level 99
Defender Status: No Armor/Equipment | 300 Dark Element Resistance
Skill: Mega Strike (level 8) w/ 15 Momentum
Number of Tests: 2
Important: 450 Dark Element Attack for PvP Weapons is only possible with GM commands. Normal Attacks were calculated by one hit.

Test 1: [Against Defender with No Dark Element Resist]

Results for +4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword:
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword – 2,375 Damage / 31,100 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element – 3,101 Damage / 40,617 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 3,419 Damage / 44,781 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element – 3,101 Damage / 40,617 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 3,419 Damage / 44,781 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword:
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword – 2,906 Damage / 36,425 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element – 3,796 Damage / 47,572 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 4,185 Damage / 52,448 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element – 3,796 Damage / 47,572 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 4,185 Damage / 52,448 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt:
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt – 2,927 Damage / 36,621 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element – 3,823 Damage / 47,792 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 4,215 Damage / 52,678 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element – 3,823 Damage / 47,792 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 4,215 Damage / 52,678 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword:
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword – 3,936 Damage / 40,298 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element – 5,141 Damage / 52,630 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 5,668 Damage / 58,024 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element – 5,141 Damage / 52,630 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 5,668 Damage / 58,024 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt:
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt – 3,957 Damage / 40,494 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element – 5,168 Damage / 52,849 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 5,698 Damage / 58,254 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element – 5,168 Damage / 52,849 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 5,698 Damage / 58,254 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for Tauti Dual Axe:
Tauti Dual Axe – 3,444 Damage / 44,874 Damage (Mega Strike)

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Test 2: [Against Defender with 300 Dark Element Resist]

Results for +4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword:
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword – 1,772 Damage / 23,210 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element – 2,363 Damage / 30,946 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 2,605 Damage / 34,119 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element – 2,729 Damage / 35,740 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 3,009 Damage / 39,404 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword:
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword – 2,169 Damage / 27,184 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element – 2,892 Damage / 36,245 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 3,188 Damage / 39,961 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element – 3,340 Damage / 41,860 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 3,682 Damage / 46,151 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt:
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt – 2,184 Damage / 27,360 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element – 2,913 Damage / 36,441 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 3,211 Damage / 40,164 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element – 3,364 Damage / 42,067 Damage (Mega Strike)
+4 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 3,709 Damage / 46,367 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword:
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword – 2,937 Damage / 30,074 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element – 3,917 Damage / 40,099 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 300 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 4,318 Damage / 44,209 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element – 4,524 Damage / 46,310 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dualsword w/ 450 Dark Element [Health+Haste] – 4,987 Damage / 51,057 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for +15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt:
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt – 2,953 Damage / 30,250 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element – 3,937 Damage / 40,294 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 300 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 4,341 Damage / 44,412 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element – 4,547 Damage / 46,518 Damage (Mega Strike)
+15 Dark Amaranthine Dual Blunt w/ 450 Dark Element [Focus+Guidance] – 5,014 Damage / 51,274 Damage (Mega Strike)

Results for Tauti Dual Axe:
Tauti Dual Axe – 3,031 Damage / 39,486 Damage (Mega Strike)
The strength of the tauti weapon is that it has four sa's, hits decently and has a 15s reuse non targeted good power aoe with a 3s duration knockdown which doesn't trigger immunity.

A skilled tyr will do more with the tauti weapon than with a dark weapon imo. Pvp isn't about who's mega strike hits the hardest :)

You can't match the utility, or german engineering.

Das Raid Weapon.
Die Jagdwaffe :p

In German weapons are female. Therefore the WW I term "soldier's bride" / "Braut des Soldaten" for a rifle :D
Juji can you add the following for completness (demonstrating pvp damage differences of tauti/dark vs. similar patk) :

+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword w/ 300 Dark Element
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword [Health+Haste] w/ 300 Dark Element
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword w/ 450 Dark Element
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword [Health+Haste] w/ 450 Dark Element
Juji can you add the following for completness (demonstrating pvp damage differences of tauti/dark vs. similar patk) :

+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword w/ 300 Dark Element
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword [Health+Haste] w/ 300 Dark Element
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword w/ 450 Dark Element
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Dual Sword [Health+Haste] w/ 450 Dark Element
Done.
It is a bit late, but I think this is correct:

http://i.imgur.com/c2DxQ96.png

(Using Juji's 450 Dark Blessed +4 R99 Duals to eliminate elemental bonus)

So the tauti weapon has the same pvp boost as a hero weapon (25%).

pimp :)
With all Respect... but this test isn't that usefull now... :p How many people have tauti weapon or R99 Dark? So many requests before this one and way more usefull to everybody.
With all Respect... but this test isn't that usefull now... :p How many people have tauti weapon or R99 Dark? So many requests before this one and way more usefull to everybody.

Yeah testing for aug. is so much a priority then this test. Get real.
Yeah testing for aug. is so much a priority then this test. Get real.

I don't remember about ask ur opnion and ... dude, u really need a woman urgently...
So the tauti weapon has the same pvp boost as a hero weapon (25%).

pimp :)
Hero weapons give +15%.

Juji: Can you make signature smaller? It's annoying a bit.
There are few Tauti blunts though, but really dunno about dual blunts.:)
It is a bit late, but I think this is correct:

http://i.imgur.com/c2DxQ96.png

(Using Juji's 450 Dark Blessed +4 R99 Duals to eliminate elemental bonus)

So the tauti weapon has the same pvp boost as a hero weapon (25%).

pimp :)

Blessed R99 dual+4 got only 855 p.attk

BTW, why do u need to add 450 ele on R99, lol it's unreal ingame. I think test should be made based on real game.
Tauti's big advantage is 450 ele and 4 SA which can't be made on regular weapon. That's all.
... BTW, why do u need to add 450 ele on R99, lol it's unreal ingame. I think test should be made based on real game.
Tauti's big advantage is 450 ele and 4 SA which can't be made on regular weapon. That's all.

On the screenshot here you can see a regular weapon with 400 Element:

http://upload.inven.co.kr/upload/2013/06/14/bbs/i2258764510.bmp
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2682&l=2584
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1062&start=40#p22298

Noble Elemental + Talisman of Longing + Talisman of Seven Signs :D
That +100 ele is not from weapon u know, and this is not the version we are playing
yet.
and with that set up Tauti weapon would give the user 550 elemental attack power so lolz
Blessed R99 dual+4 got only 855 p.attk

BTW, why do u need to add 450 ele on R99, lol it's unreal ingame. I think test should be made based on real game.
Tauti's big advantage is 450 ele and 4 SA which can't be made on regular weapon. That's all.

Understand that the purpose of comparing Tauti to +4 blessed amaranthine no SA with 450 element is to:

1) eliminate the effect of element on the damage in the comparison
2) demonstrate the difference the pvp bonus of the tauti gives vs. no pvp bonus.

Changing the PATK from 870 to 855 drops the scaling factor from:
1.13577023498694516971
to
1.11618798955613577023

Which means the pvp bonus is:
50087 / 40617 = 1.2331 or 23.31% instead of ~25%

Still pretty ******* strong.

If we consider that each SA gives 5% then we have four 5% boosts.

If they are strictly additive then we have a 3.331% damage gap to account for.
If they are multiplicative then we have a 1.76% damage gap to account for. Juji's server does not have damage variance so SOMETHING is adding to this as i will assert that the devs did not add a static boost of 23.315360563310928921% to this weapon and that it is the combination of multiple components.

Very interesting none the lesse.
and with that set up Tauti weapon would give the user 550 elemental attack power so lolz

600 element with +30 Dark Weapon.

And I do have a SB with +30 Dark Weapon :)
Hero weapons give +15%.


Interesting, we will however need proof for this to be taken as fact.

Please do the following to validate your claim:

1) Win Hero
2) Take a Warrior Hero Weapon
3) Drop Clan and unequip any PvP/SkillPower/raw damage % Adjusting items
4) Mega Strike a target with an UN SA'd unelemented weapon (preferably whos PATK is not too different from the hero weapon, we can scale calculate but closer is better)
5) Mega strike the same target with the hero weapon.

Note the damage difference.

Do this and we can accept your statement.

My information was based on testing with hero weapons in High5, admittedly things may have changed so we need you to prove your statement.
With all Respect... but this test isn't that usefull now... :p How many people have tauti weapon or R99 Dark? So many requests before this one and way more usefull to everybody.

The same reason why people like to talk and discuss high end race cars, fighter jets and other exotic things.

Talking about your 1982 Beige Yugo that you got from your parents to drive around in doesn't quite have the same captivating factor
Diego Vargas:

nobody cares about an underpowered boss weapon that you got stuck with.

You cant beat anyone good on server with it so get some L2 propaganda up so you can sell it :) thats smart.

Juji: this weapon cant even compare to a 95 weapon...so why do you post such BS about it being good...obviously you do test with proper armor and buffs, you just half *** sheet.