Is it Possible to be Legit?

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Is it Possible to be a Legit player, reach the max level without botting or buying adenas? Spending the least amount of real money on NCstore? Just playing the game, how it was meant to be and having fun with it?
It should be possible. However, I have no clue how true my statement is for the characters created after Lindvior's launch. Since my character was created in November 2011, I had time to gather money and resources to keep sustaining myself without even spending a dime in the store, but things went downhill after each update.
It should be possible. However, I have no clue how true my statement is for the characters created after Lindvior's launch. Since my character was created in November 2011, I had time to gather money and resources to keep sustaining myself without even spending a dime in the store, but things went downhill after each update.


Ive made more money in Lindvior than i made before, so it is possible to get enough adena/items.

And yes, it is possible.
If you want to play game and just enjoy the game as it is then it is possible.
If you want to be in factor PvP clan then no.
If you want to be in factor PvP clan then no.

wrong !
Since the botting is getting ever worse and NCWest refuses to delete the accounts of adena-buying "normal" players, thus removing the illegitimate wealth from the server, there is more and more adena around, prices are only ever going up. This means that by playing the auction house and other business activities you can accumulate wealth in a seemingly legit way.

But since most of the adena on the server is botted, any interaction with other players means that you directly or indirectly benefit from the use of 3rd party software. A truly legit player does not join any parties, stays away from clans, only sells to NPCs, only buys from NPCs and only has the equipment he has personally dropped or crafted with materials he has personally spoiled. Because of the nerfed drop rates this means that for post-Lindvior players it is technically not possible to be legit, even if you just want to do a bit of casual PvE.
wrong !
I dont want to take your imagination away. Over 90 % of people in factor clans have some kind of technical support.
Lets dont be hypocrites.
Is it Possible to be a Legit player, reach the max level without botting or buying adenas?
Yes it's possible.
Spending the least amount of real money on NCstore?
You don't have to spend a penny on the NCstore. Ever since the game went free I didn't really buy much from the store, other than occasionally splurging on myself. This is something that is up to you though.
Just playing the game, how it was meant to be and having fun with it?
Yes, you can play this game how it was meant to be played, to have fun. Although, some people seem to have forgotten that.
Short answer: YES! :D

Do your main and create a spoiler on another account, make a clan with then (this will allow you to play CoC on 85+).

Take both to 85 (this will give craft skills to your dwarf, maestros are useless), get the SSs BSSSs recipes and keep yourself sustained.

Begin to play Ceremony of Chaos as soon as possible (probably you'll never get a boss jewel, so the CoC jewels will be the better legit accessories you'll get).

Save the materials from lvl 81 quests with you (you could try to craft something)!

Dual your main on whatever you want, but get ISS on your dwarf, on the way, nobless both to do Olys (that pays 2 GEs by each 10 combats where you are punchbag to veterans and anyone that could afford better gear than you).

Meanwhile, chat! Get parties to daylies and know people! Many guys on this community are great and main reason to get some fun on the insane grind. ;)

It's what I did*, I think that in one year or two I'll be 99. Cheers!

*Edit: Except by the spoiler thing, I created a Maestro and discovered too late that a spoiler gets craft at 85, while the opposite is not true :(
me need 20 mounts total legit, 0 xp runes or other nc store item, 0 rtm total casual active (out of town/in instance/rb...) play ~20h in weak, + x2/3 more h in town to make adena/to chat... i'm sure if some1 decide to be legit and play 6-8h in day active may up 99/85/80/80 in 8-10 mounts if you have 7ppl CP all time
Is it Possible to be a Legit player

Short answer: yup.



It's all about patience, and dedication. If you just can't wait, and / or piss and moan about having to "work" for goals, then it'll be impossible.
Yes it is, you need just work hard for it and get a nice cp. Alone u can nothing.
Btw, lindvior ate all drops and this really destroyed so good economy making game way harder for new players.
when you see it the way Yidao does, it almost never was and never will be possible, as botting/rmt is hitting the economy hard in one way or another. And at some point of your gameplay you will have to interact with other players .. you will want to buy something, or want to craft something, or want buffs or a rezz or a mentor (etc) ...

On Innova with an activ staff fithging bots/rmt the AH-prices are way lower then here, and your chances are better to play the game "legit".
Well I guess it depends how you define non-legit.

To me it's using 3rd party programs to automate game play for whatever reason intended, be it XP,loot, or PvP. Buying adena,leveling services and buffs.

There are some instances where you can't control aspects of cheaters. You might earn all your adena legally and honestly,but unfortunately you don't know where your item(s) comes from. You don't know if the stuff you sold was bought with adena from bots.

And then there's parties. It isn't always easy to determine if a member is using a program or is live. The times I have caught people doing it, I ask the party if they want to let it die and leave it,if agreed that person is left for dead and kicked.

Yes you can play as honestly as possible,make sure your clan has a strict no bot policy that is regularly enforced. One way is to have people in vent. After awhile you learn their routines and they eventually slip up.

The L2 store is sadly a way to make adena for yourself. It's legit and perfectly acceptable to do.
L2 has always been a choice between lvling fast and be poor or lvling slow and have more adena to spent..

if the question is here can you hit lvl99 without cheating yes no problem just don't expect to achieve it within 6 Months though as this game is a grind fest and has always been like that.

go play another game if you expect to be able to reach max lvl in a matter of dayz as then L2 isn't the game for you.
L2 has always been a choice between lvling fast and be poor or lvling slow and have more adena to spent..

if the question is here can you hit lvl99 without cheating yes no problem just don't expect to achieve it within 6 Months though as this game is a grind fest and has always been like that.

go play another game if you expect to be able to reach max lvl in a matter of dayz as then L2 isn't the game for you.

Too true. It can be fun with the right people. If I was an entirely new player walking into this game I'd probably not even bother. I hate to say that,but there's so many thing that would turn me off as a new player.
Is it Possible to be a Legit player, reach the max level without botting or buying adenas? Spending the least amount of real money on NCstore? Just playing the game, how it was meant to be and having fun with it?

Yes it is.
Is it Possible to be a Legit player, reach the max level without botting or buying adenas? Spending the least amount of real money on NCstore? Just playing the game, how it was meant to be and having fun with it?

Yes, I been legit since 2004, it is possible.
If you try to grind levels and adena traditionally? No. You'll either quit or breakdown and pay the russians their due. Level 98 mobs having the same financial worth of level 74 mobs is disgusting.

However, I found a few places that are what the NC devs would call "unbalanced". If you should find them with a reasonably well put together party, you can progress very quickly. Good luck finding them, and tell no one when you do.
Said shortly: Yes it is.
Said a bit longer: Yes it is, but you gotta have time and desire to progress.It's a huge pain and its not for everyone.
Is it Possible to be a Legit player, reach the max level without botting or buying adenas? Spending the least amount of real money on NCstore? Just playing the game, how it was meant to be and having fun with it?

LOL it's possible and easy, most easy now
I spend 10 months in dailys everyday w/o runa/powerlevel or anything, but it before spicula, now u can be lvl 99 in 6~7 months w/o bot/runa, just doing daily. Or in 4~5 if u want be hard play and stay solo xping for 5~6 hours/day
Well, I'd say yes. I've been slowly plugging away at it since 2004 (yes Splatter was a hero of mine...). Its all about what you are trying to get out of the game. I'm getting there slower, but I have fun (and we play games for that don't we??). I'm hitting all of my personal goals, making good money (not stupidly huge amounts, but enough to keep me fairly well equiped) and I get to talk with the friends I have developed over the years.

Inch.
Is it Possible to be a Legit player, reach the max level without botting or buying adenas? Spending the least amount of real money on NCstore? Just playing the game, how it was meant to be and having fun with it?

I'm legit, playing since 2006, but in fact my top is just 96 :P
Theorically, be legit at 99 it's possible nowadays, but so boring, repetitive and exhausting that I hardly believe it.
Is it possible to be legit? Nah. NCSoft's ability to police the servers prevents you from being legit. You get banned for botting, make a new toon. You get banned for being in the same party with a botter. The word "favoritism" gets toss around a lot and always get questioned. The players get tired of getting owned and start using programs just for the "radar" feature and not a GM bats an eye.

So, no, it is not possible to be legit in this game. You will be accused of being everything but being legit. You are better off playing something else that has a better system of playing fair.
Well, I'd say yes. I've been slowly plugging away at it since 2004 (yes Splatter was a hero of mine...). Its all about what you are trying to get out of the game. I'm getting there slower, but I have fun (and we play games for that don't we??). I'm hitting all of my personal goals, making good money (not stupidly huge amounts, but enough to keep me fairly well equiped) and I get to talk with the friends I have developed over the years.

Inch.

Howdy....
Yes, you can. But when you beat 99 16AP /99 16AP /80/80 you will plan to start "pvp" and now you will need bot. The game end.
Is possible .... wasting a feeeewwwwww years xP.
Is possible .... wasting a feeeewwwwww years xP.

You could technically level legit to 99/99 or 99/99/80/80 in a month easy, WELL under that in fact in some cases. But most will not have the support of people to do that kind of thing, nor would they be willing/able to shell out the money for ncoin to make it so fast.

But for somewhat quick and still legit? Absolutely. You can get to 99 in a few months just doing dailies and getting a few xp/vit items when you have the time/money. Especially if you use them at an advantageous time like if the nevit buff is up.

Using absolutely nothing at all from the ncstore... it's going to be awhile unless you nolife the game and grinnnnnnnddddd away.
easiest way to be legit is play a support toon like iss/healer. make friends, join a clan, farm some instances, do raid bosses then ask for drops. I have seen so many healers get top drops just cause they support-even tho they suck. Then said healer quits game and sells all gear for some quick cash. seen it so many times.
im a legit player 99/98/80/80 it took me more than 2 years w/o rune, bot, pwlvl not even the birthday potions or farm, plus some months of playing so little or nothing...
im not a hardcore player, but not casual either
i remember i leveled from 97 to 98 doing just Kartia solo(coz in that time i was bored of the game and i was playing tera)
my dual class could have been 99 months ago, but im focused on get AP first(i think i will get 16 in march 2015)

so if you have patience, and don't get so bored you can perfectly be legit XD
right now if you have a good party, you can be 99 in a couple of months(mobs and farms zones give a lot more exp right now than in some previous updates)
You could technically level legit to 99/99 or 99/99/80/80 in a month easy, WELL under that in fact in some cases. But most will not have the support of people to do that kind of thing, nor would they be willing/able to shell out the money for ncoin to make it so fast.

But for somewhat quick and still legit? Absolutely. You can get to 99 in a few months just doing dailies and getting a few xp/vit items when you have the time/money. Especially if you use them at an advantageous time like if the nevit buff is up.

Using absolutely nothing at all from the ncstore... it's going to be awhile unless you nolife the game and grinnnnnnnddddd away.
U must be new around here, now is impossible to be 99/99/80/80 in a month without buying runes ... ie. kartia group 95 in lvl 98 and just gain a 0.20% aprox... 0.20 X 30 days = 6% in a month. And you gonna be 99/99/80/80??? xDDDDD from lv1 ... u're crazy bro =P
Sure is possible, i know people that got 99 legit in ~1yr+ ...
But dont forget about the 16APs, if want to be something at the game other than meatshield.

Trying get equips without spending nothing is kind hard.
and Today events are all based on P2W, or put some cash or cry about it xD

Cya!
If you want to play on the top, then no. It is not possible. And whoever says yes is hypocrite.
Its debatable, because the cost of using BSSR is a serious issue for casters. Sure you can use no BSSR and take a little longer, but the time difference between using BSSR and not using it is months.

Even melee characters using SSR don't even break even if they spam it.

Even if you find a decent spot to make money, guess who will be there in force?
You can be as legit as you want to but it gets ever harder to stay sane with the L2 store raking in money. If L2 is your hobby and you have the cash then by all means use the Store but if you want items that cost billions in the AU well.. how much are you tempted by RMT?
It is possible to Play the PvE part in this game w/o any programs or NCCoin usage.
It's not even that bad now if u have some friends who are not totally afraid to grind (at least while Dragonbuff is up).
Only with Instances it will still take a while. I tested both
I leveled my Archer from 86 to 99 in like 11 months but i had some Birthday pots and stuff cause i play L2 alrdy since 2005. W/o those i would say 1-2 months more.

And lately cause i didn't have much time to spend for L2, i used NC Coins for my new Ertheia and leveld it up to 99 in like 2-3 months (last two weeks i was slacking).
But this char till 99 had alrdy a worth of about 200 - 300 Dollar on NCcoins where my Archer was at 0$.

As soon as u start doing PvP AND want to be successfull (not even talking about beeing Hero or a big factor, just be able to kill someone and dont die one hit to all those Rangers and Towers) u will have to use NCcoins for items like Brooche, Shiny Cloak, Talisman, Agathion, Enchant Stones....
U must be new around here, now is impossible to be 99/99/80/80 in a month without buying runes ... ie. kartia group 95 in lvl 98 and just gain a 0.20% aprox... 0.20 X 30 days = 6% in a month. And you gonna be 99/99/80/80??? xDDDDD from lv1 ... u're crazy bro =P

You must not be able to read because I said you had to use money to go fast.

You aren't going to go fast just doing instances. You won't even go fast just grinding.

There are 100% legit ways you can get 99/99 in around a few days and with the cost of only a ncoin items during those days. But the vast majority of people won't have the capability or support needed to do that.
You must not be able to read because I said you had to use money to go fast.

You aren't going to go fast just doing instances. You won't even go fast just grinding.

There are 100% legit ways you can get 99/99 in around a few days and with the cost of only a ncoin items during those days. But the vast majority of people won't have the capability or support needed to do that.

"Originally Posted by Asynjahttp://boards.lineage2.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3462844#post3462844)
You could technically level legit to 99/99 or 99/99/80/80 in a month easy,"

You're insane bro =P

The instance % that i mention it is just an example,
Anyway IE. yesterday i do kartia solo, kartia group, baylor, emerald (5 times) soh (3 quest) and just gain around 1% (98 to 99) is TECHNICALLY impossible legit and "WHITOUT" spend cash goes 99/99 in a month..
Like others says... maybe in a year or more.
Another example.. a few days ago i was in gainak around 3 hours, and without vita gain around 1.50%, so ... if i do the instances (around 3 hours) and the 3 hours gainak just ... 3% aprox =S
Yes its possible, of course a lot harder but thats what playing a game is all about isnt it , a challenge? Well for most people I think. What helped me a lot with Adena was some of the events that they do, like the first Draco event, omg that made me so rich. Unfortunately they have been doing crappy events the past year, but you can still make adena from them.