Since i submited a ticked with this exploit and nc soft team suggested me to dicuss this with other players, i hope that more people take my side. Here is the exploit.
I see some players keeping the skill Mystic immunity from 3rd class skills, and stack that with Angel's touch, which is permanent debuff immunity.... I think that this is huge exploit of that skill , and should be erased when awakened or at least replaced with Angel's touch, which does the same effect.
Since i submited a ticked with this exploit and nc soft team suggested me to dicuss this with other players, i hope that more people take my side. Here is the exploit.
I see some players keeping the skill Mystic immunity from 3rd class skills, and stack that with Angel's touch, which is permanent debuff immunity.... I think that this is huge exploit of that skill , and should be erased when awakened or at least replaced with Angel's touch, which does the same effect.
Its not an exploit, its an oversight by NCsoft in regard to keeping certain skills over others for example as an EE keeping both Return and PR instead of changing to the new PR which only allows you to PR instead of letting you do both PR and individual recall.
I don't find it unfair. Rarely people have this unless they have the pure intention of PvP'ing and having 1 leg up on the competition.
No exploit there. And they dont stack. There would be no reason also to try to stack them.
And no logical reason to make Angels Touch to be teh one to replace MI, since nobody would trade it.
It is exploit, They increased Angel's touch reuse time just because it could be used TOO often, not to speak of permanent immunity. Try pvp in olympiad with permanent immuned ... really you'd be even more pis-sed than me. By stack i mean use one afetr another.
It is exploit, They increased Angel's touch reuse time just because it could be used TOO often, not to speak of permanent immunity. Try pvp in olympiad with permanent immuned ... really you'd be even more pis-sed than me. By stack i mean use one afetr another.
It isn't. They kept it in game with the intention to choose some 3rd class skills over new awakening skills.
If you're trying to win Oly or CoC, forget it...to many script users and RMT geared peeps.
Im not trying to win anything, its just one of the things that bother me.
I agree to choose 3rd class skill over new awakening one, but with the same effect. :p
Im not trying to win anything, its just one of the things that bother me.
I agree to choose 3rd class skill over new awakening one, but with the same effect. :p
They won't change it...or rather NCWest can't unless Korea says yes
what do you not take by keeping mystic immunity?
ncsoft intended for all the old skills to be removed upon awakening.
they didn't consider that we really like our old skills.
and due to popular demand, they have not removed the old skills.
however if you accidentally remove the skill yourself they will not help you get it back.
my ee sub i goofed and took party return thinking it would have a quicker recycle... and on enchanter i took party celest thinking it affects party, it's more useful than clan wide... only to find out it has a long debuff attached to it.
we survive with the new skills, even though we despise the company for forcing us to keep that which we accidentally took.
what do you not take by keeping mystic immunity?
ncsoft intended for all the old skills to be removed upon awakening.
they didn't consider that we really like our old skills.
and due to popular demand, they have not removed the old skills.
however if you accidentally remove the skill yourself they will not help you get it back.
my ee sub i goofed and took party return thinking it would have a quicker recycle... and on enchanter i took party celest thinking it affects party, it's more useful than clan wide... only to find out it has a long debuff attached to it.
we survive with the new skills, even though we despise the company for forcing us to keep that which we accidentally took.
The existence of Mystic Immunity on awakened chars is the first step to realize how the debuff system is screwed and had no smart heads pondering over it.
It's like carrying a pocket-hero-maker that enables half-hero on you for 45 seconds.
Ofcourse its exploit, it even extends with the current bugged system with Chaos Essence.
So you roll(bot) w/e Prophet, make it 85 or so, change to BD Iss or SWS iss or w/e and keep Mystic Immunity, so you got a char that is usless in party cos no BR, but these somehow got lvled to 99 (you know how).This way you just stomp all other toons that changed it for BR or they EVEN DIDNT HAVE A CHANCE to have it.
Learn what expliting means, then comment not being exploit lol.
Imo remove all 3rd class skills -> add 4th class ones, no more exploiting of this inbalance.
Ofcourse its exploit, it even extends with the current bugged system with Chaos Essence.
So you roll(bot) w/e Prophet, make it 85 or so, change to BD Iss or SWS iss or w/e and keep Mystic Immunity, so you got a char that is usless in party cos no BR, but these somehow got lvled to 99 (you know how).This way you just stomp all other toons that changed it for BR or they EVEN DIDNT HAVE A CHANCE to have it.
Learn what expliting means, then comment not being exploit lol.
Imo remove all 3rd class skills -> add 4th class ones, no more exploiting of this inbalance.
Agreed. But NCKorea's management is just really rtarded.
Just give NCWest their own rights to modify the game for NA and SA...problem solved...
real Hierophant Isses give up on BR to keep MI... for some carebears around, they r ready to tear their as.s off if they invite an iss without BR to their party, but if the iss have some balls, its ok. Imo, no worth keeping it unless you are making a extremely oly-oriented character and oly point farmer.
My doubt is: if I do lvl a PP to 85, awaken as Hiero iss class, then change to any other (bd/sws/wc) before 89, would I keep the MI while being able to learn BR, since I think others classes of isses dont need to trade 3rd-class skills for BR? If y, then THIS would be an exploit.
When u keep duelist spirit from duelist and change to maestro/warlord, you trade in duelist spirit for berserk, so i dont think u can do that. The thing with BR, is that usualy when u pop BR, other pt goes party rescue/pt UD/cele/ w/e else. With MI, u keep constantly on the defense allowing for better offense, and it can counter some of the most annoying /strongest debuffs in the game + angelic touch, tank/wynn/iss are specially affected by this.
If the replace of the 3rd class skill is with the same effect as 4th, i dont see problem to choose. Its bug itself to have a skill on 3rd class with longer effect duration and less or same cooldown than the 4th class skill @.@ Also MI was with 15min reuse or so before GoD.
Imo they should keep all 3rd class skills and upgrade them to 4th class skill effect OR erase them after awakening. And yes its very annoying, because its exploit of the gameplay. Everyone started rerolling to other classes according to that bugs.
how you get 99 iss without br? its simple go bot.
So you leveled you char by hand 2 years? well delet it and bot a new iss hiero
dont expect nc fix this, is not gona happend
how you get 99 iss without br? its simple go bot.
So you leveled you char by hand 2 years? well delet it and bot a new iss hiero
dont expect nc fix this, is not gona happend
You'r misunderstanding the whole thing. You dont need really to bot just to be able to keep MI with the Hiero Iss. Although, you'll need a stable, well geared constant party, strong enough to no rely on the BR buff to get things done.
If someone wanna level a hierophant only for the sake of dualboxing or to be a pve char, better avoid all the trouble and get BR, as it will be more useful than keeping MI on the skill set.
If you think the thread is because I envy that i dont have it, then you're totaly wrong.
The logic could be same if as Doomcryer 3rd class i keep Chant of Victory and have at the same time Drum Melody. Both skills have same/similar effect.
Or imagine summoners have "summon friend" and "summon teammate". Tyrrs have "Frenzy" and "Berserk" ...