M.Crit Rate

Feoh Wizard Started Last reply 23 posts
Ok so I just concluded a mini test of crit rate's and am disgusted.


first I am 99 dark elf feoh storm screamer full eternal gear +4 ama retri acu +15 int -1 wit tats, +7 shiny elemental shirt, 14 day boss jewl pack, coc earing lvl 3 opal sapphire emarld jewls, enhanced oct bracelet and annilation tailsmen.


sub skills = lvl 4 m.atk lvl 4 cast speed lvl 4 m.crit
dual skills = lvl 2 p.atk/m.atk
2 ap points in nobles empower


unbuffed M. Critical stat = 138


lvl2 clan hall buffs + wiz spirit M. Critical = 246


now I did 1000 hits on clan hall npc unbuffed and got a 31.3% crit rate


Then 1000 hits with buffs and got 31.1% crit rate


did I do something wrong or is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless and should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else.




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Erm, I don't see what you are complaining about here ? Did you just start playing and for some reason think you should crit on every hit, or every other hit ? A almost one out of three crit rate is good, you can up it a bit by adding a Valaka's into the mix, but I really can't see what the heck you are complaining about.

Do you think we should be blasting out 50k + hit nukes at will ? Do you somehow consider that to be fair to others ? :confused:
Erm, I don't see what you are complaining about here ? Did you just start playing and for some reason think you should crit on every hit, or every other hit ? A almost one out of three crit rate is good, you can up it a bit by adding a Valaka's into the mix, but I really can't see what the heck you are complaining about.

Do you think we should be blasting out 50k + hit nukes at will ? Do you somehow consider that to be fair to others ? :confused:

Reading comprehension problems :confused:
Reading comprehension problems :confused:

No, not really, I get he is upset that he isn't criting more ( that small down variance can also go up if he did it again, can very well top off at 32-33% ) when buffed as opposed to non buffed, what I said still stand's, any question's ?

Do you also think we should be criting every 1-2 hit's or something as well ?
No, not really, I get he is upset that he isn't criting more ( that small down variance can also go up if he did it again, can very well top off at 32-33% ) when buffed as opposed to non buffed, what I said still stand's, any question's ?

Do you also think we should be criting every 1-2 hit's or something as well ?

Try reading the first post 10 times, maybe (not very probable) you'll understand.
Try reading the first post 10 times, maybe (not very probable) you'll understand.

God you are dense, once again, read my first post, it answer's his question, and I stand by the rest, I said any question's, not moronic tries at comeback's. :o
God you are dense, once again, read my first post, it answer's his question, and I stand by the rest, I said any question's, not moronic tries at comeback's.

Why would I read your irrelevent, illogical and absolutely useless post more than once?

Ok so I just concluded a mini test of crit rate's and am disgusted.


first I am 99 dark elf feoh storm screamer full eternal gear +4 ama retri acu +15 int -1 wit tats, +7 shiny elemental shirt, 14 day boss jewl pack, coc earing lvl 3 opal sapphire emarld jewls, enhanced oct bracelet and annilation tailsmen.


sub skills = lvl 4 m.atk lvl 4 cast speed lvl 4 m.crit
dual skills = lvl 2 p.atk/m.atk
2 ap points in nobles empower


unbuffed M. Critical stat = 138


lvl2 clan hall buffs + wiz spirit M. Critical = 246


now I did 1000 hits on clan hall npc unbuffed and got a 31.3% crit rate


Then 1000 hits with buffs and got 31.1% crit rate


did I do something wrong or is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless and should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else.




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Should I draw it for you next time in the vain hope to deduct something out by yourself?
Why would I read your irrelevent, illogical and absolutely useless post more than once?



Should I draw it for you next time in the vain hope to deduct something out by yourself?

Ah, your right I didn't see that 14 day pack thing, I take it that include a Valaka's ? Just came back, so I have no clue if it does or not. If it does, you got me on this one, be proud, I don't lose many. :cool:

To make my answer simpler, not unless he want's to lose a bit of his crit rate.

We all assign those skill's to taste though, there is no one right way.
Ah, your right I didn't see that 14 day pack thing, I take it that include a Valaka's ? Just came back, so I have no clue if it does or not. If it does, you got me on this one, be proud, I don't lose many. :cool:

To make my answer simpler, not unless he want's to lose a bit of his crit rate.

We all assign those skill's to taste though, there is no one right way.

And yet again you don't get it! Either troll or serious reading comprehension issues. Is English your first language?
u for real bro

u testing crit rate on normal npcs? even a fighter with just 100 crit rate (10%) lands crits on various NPCs almost every swing.

U do tests on punch bag npc on aden or on players. Prefered on players.
And yet again you don't get it! Either troll or serious reading comprehension issues. Is English your first language?




did I do something wrong or is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless and should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else.


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Never mind, you are just incredibly dense. He asked a question, I answered him, my primary language is indeed English, unlike yourself.
but I really can't see what the heck you are complaining about.

Ok, let me try explaining it to you one last time.
He's complaining that having almost twice the listed magical critical, there's no difference in the amount of magical critical hits (according to his test).
M. Critical stat = 138 and got a 31.3% crit rate.
M. Critical stat = 246 and got a 31.1% crit rate.
See? This is what's it's all about.


Do you think we should be blasting out 50k + hit nukes at will ? Do you somehow consider that to be fair to others ? :confused:

And your assumptions were so comical that I felt obliged to intervene.
Ok, let me try explaining it to you one last time.
He's complaining that having almost twice the listed magical critical, there's no difference in the amount of magical critical hits (according to his test).
M. Critical stat = 138 and got a 31.3% crit rate.
M. Critical stat = 246 and got a 31.1% crit rate.
See? This is what's it's all about.
No, not really, I get he is upset that he isn't criting more ( that small down variance can also go up if he did it again, can very well top off at 32-33% ) when buffed as opposed to non buffed, what I said still stand's, any question's ?

Do you also think we should be criting every 1-2 hit's or something as well ?
And yet you have the gall to accuse me of lack of reading comprehension ? I am sorry I possess the ability to break down a wall of text and number's into seven word's and you do not. :(

did I do something wrong or is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless and should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else.



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And no, when there is a question at the end of it all, that is what it's all break's down to, or is "about".

And my assumptions were so comical that I felt obliged to post so you would intervene, TY..

YW. :D
And no, when there is a question at the end of it all, that is what it's all break's down to, or is "about".

It's not A question, it's in fact three questions, but.. (yet again reading comprehension, but it's not your fault after all. Just bad genes :D ).
It's not A question, it's in fact three questions, but.. (yet again reading comprehension, but it's not your fault after all. Just bad genes :D ).

No everything leading up to the question are statement's, but with your lack of intelligence it's a given you don't understand this, as everything in life must seem to be a question to you. You are forgiven, blessed are the obtuse, for them life's wonder's will have no end, go in peace my son and rejoice for you are one so chosen ! :D
did I do something wrong (question number 1) or is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless (question number 2) and should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else (question number 3).


Congratulations! You've just failed to count to three. And your mocking attempts are rather pathetic. Better try posting some pictures.
Congratulations! You've just failed to count to three. And your mocking attempts are rather pathetic. Better try posting some pictures.

Yeah if you lived in a world that you get to parse someone else's question anyway you please to suit yourself I guess, but in this world the English language doesn't work that way, the way he asked it, in this form it is one question :



did I do something wrong or is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless and should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else.


:confused: :confused:

It only becomes three question's if you do this ( and I had to remove word's as well ) :




Did I do something wrong ?

Is the M. crit rate stat utterly meaningless ?

Should I re-assign my lvl 4 crit rate sub class skill to something else?


:confused: :confused:

But in your own little world you can do whatever you wish I suppose, you do slightly better on this acct then on Genocide200 I guess, but your still a failure. Heck I even tried to hand you the victory since I really did bypass that whole boss jewel pack, but no you had to bludgeon us with your failure until I had no choice but to reclaim victory.

Anyway's I'm done arguing with the mentally deficient for today, spin it in your head any way you want so you can claim victory in your own little world, as requested here's your picture ! :D

http://i57.tinypic.com/2nlae7s.jpg

NN pigeon. :D
Guys please, there is no reason to bicker back and forth.

I am NOT complaining about anything,

Im attempting to find out Fact's. so i don't waste sub skills/dual skills/ap points.
If indeed that stat has no real effect on m.crit rate

plz constructive information guys lets keep this professional

also the 14 day pack has blessed antharas blessed valakas earth worm and tauti

As for testing of crit rate i was unaware there would be any diffrence between what your hitting as to how often you crit on each thing, this is usefull information thank you i will test on punching bag or soemthing.

Also i am not stupid i do not expect to crit 50% of the time, what i was expecting from the test was at the lower crit rate stat to crit LESS not practically the same at the higher rate. which lead's me to believe if the crit rate stat doesn't actually change crit rate, there is no point in wasting those sub skills dual skill ap points on trying to up the crit rate stat.

I do not understand where anyone one could have got the idea i was complaining from my original post, as it had only information on my toon and stats and the test i did and what i thought where simple question's. i suppose next time i will try to make a better effort at not giving this conclusion

for those he gave usefull informational responses thank you.
If you change your sub skill's, yes you will lose some of your crit rate, it does matter. That's as simple as I will put it. We all assign our skill's to personal preference though, it's your build, its really up to you. Here's a test they did not long ago you may want to take a look at boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108, was waiting until you responded to see what you would say, anyway's there's the link. :cool:

Don't worry about the "fight" that happened in your thread, that's just some random that makes a lot of different random forum acct's to stir thing's up and wind's up outwitting himself in the process, it's just fun to mess with him sometimes. :cool:
i have looked at the post before and is useful for knowing how wit effect's m.crit stat but does not show how m.crit stat effects the actual crit rate.

if i conducted my test wrong, what do i need to change in order to have a more accurate test?

From the test I did my conclusion is crit rate stat does not actually change the crit rate, which would make putting anything into this stat a waste of points money gear ect. i'm not trying to ask how i should build my toon and what skills i should take, if this is how my original post came across i apologize.

my intent is to find out if my test is correct or not, if the m crit stat does not actually change crit rate, then i am disgusted a stat would be in game that is only misleading ppl to waste time effort skills ect in order to increase a stat that does nothing.

yes i know we all build are toon's to our taste and i have built mine for maximum dmg output and will continue to do so, i've always been partial to the glass cannon :-)

PS: I LOVE the Arguing with ******s picture hahahaha
Looks likely magic critical rate is broken and a static value is implied (Aprox ±30%) regardless the value shown on our character status.
Erm, I don't see what you are complaining about here ? Did you just start playing and for some reason think you should crit on every hit, or every other hit ? A almost one out of three crit rate is good, you can up it a bit by adding a Valaka's into the mix, but I really can't see what the heck you are complaining about.

Do you think we should be blasting out 50k + hit nukes at will ? Do you somehow consider that to be fair to others ? :confused:

No, not really, I get he is upset that he isn't criting more ( that small down variance can also go up if he did it again, can very well top off at 32-33% ) when buffed as opposed to non buffed, what I said still stand's, any question's ?

Do you also think we should be criting every 1-2 hit's or something as well ?

God you are dense, once again, read my first post, it answer's his question, and I stand by the rest, I said any question's, not moronic tries at comeback's. :o

Ah, your right I didn't see that 14 day pack thing, I take it that include a Valaka's ? Just came back, so I have no clue if it does or not. If it does, you got me on this one, be proud, I don't lose many. :cool:

To make my answer simpler, not unless he want's to lose a bit of his crit rate.

We all assign those skill's to taste though, there is no one right way.

Never mind, you are just incredibly dense. He asked a question, I answered him, my primary language is indeed English, unlike yourself.

And yet you have the gall to accuse me of lack of reading comprehension ? I am sorry I possess the ability to break down a wall of text and number's into seven word's and you do not. :(



And no, when there is a question at the end of it all, that is what it's all break's down to, or is "about".



YW. :D

No everything leading up to the question are statement's, but with your lack of intelligence it's a given you don't understand this, as everything in life must seem to be a question to you. You are forgiven, blessed are the obtuse, for them life's wonder's will have no end, go in peace my son and rejoice for you are one so chosen ! :D

Yeah if you lived in a world that you get to parse someone else's question anyway you please to suit yourself I guess, but in this world the English language doesn't work that way, the way he asked it, in this form it is one question :


It only becomes three question's if you do this ( and I had to remove word's as well ) :



But in your own little world you can do whatever you wish I suppose, you do slightly better on this acct then on Genocide200 I guess, but your still a failure. Heck I even tried to hand you the victory since I really did bypass that whole boss jewel pack, but no you had to bludgeon us with your failure until I had no choice but to reclaim victory.

Anyway's I'm done arguing with the mentally deficient for today, spin it in your head any way you want so you can claim victory in your own little world, as requested here's your picture ! :D

http://i57.tinypic.com/2nlae7s.jpg

NN pigeon. :D

If you change your sub skill's, yes you will lose some of your crit rate, it does matter. That's as simple as I will put it. We all assign our skill's to personal preference though, it's your build, its really up to you. Here's a test they did not long ago you may want to take a look at boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108, was waiting until you responded to see what you would say, anyway's there's the link. :cool:

Don't worry about the "fight" that happened in your thread, that's just some random that makes a lot of different random forum acct's to stir thing's up and wind's up outwitting himself in the process, it's just fun to mess with him sometimes. :cool:

http://motivationalposters.yolasite.com/resources/stupidity.jpg
Hahahah bigdonkey still trying to prove himself that he is still a factor by becoming a forum clown warrior...
So sad that this h0m0 can only pvp here and not in game. Hahhahha
Come donkey, bring it all!!! Hahhaaah