Yesterday I was roaming through GF looking for Dimensional chests and avoiding those insane archers when I saw something on top of the glowing orb tower. Then saw some red summons and got the name of the red toon. Somehow the red is on top of the tower and cant be attacked, but he can attack others to protect his 24/7 auto party (If you know what I mean). I feel it is a terrain exploit as he can attack others but can't be attacked. I sent in a ticket with a screenshot.
Just asking for the guy to be moved off the tower where he can be dealt with.
Yesterday I was roaming through GF looking for Dimensional chests and avoiding those insane archers when I saw something on top of the glowing orb tower. Then saw some red summons and got the name of the red toon. Somehow the red is on top of the tower and cant be attacked, but he can attack others to protect his 24/7 auto party (If you know what I mean). I feel it is a terrain exploit as he can attack others but can't be attacked. I sent in a ticket with a screenshot.
Just asking for the guy to be moved off the tower where he can be dealt with.
Thanks.
not an exploit
theres a button called "My teleports" next to your minimap
you can save the xyz loc from the top of the tower to your teleports pack , so its not an exploit
It is not a teleport spot. Somehow through a glitch I assume he ended up on "top" of the glowing orb tower in GF. He stays there and summons his cats and attacks players and/or other bots that are in his bots area. I saw his bots buff the cats, only the cats because he is out of reach for buffs and likewise to be attacked. Therefore it is an exploit rather he somehow did it on purpose, or logged in and was glitched there.
yep its not a teleport spot but it can be easily done with a force move + restart
there is a lot of korean/japanese/asian/hindu/rice videos where people are porting with my teleport pack and they are on the top of the buldings/towers
if this would be an exploit or a bug it would be fixed after 10 years
bug maybe.
exploit not until it becomes an issue.
like when you used to climb mountains and attack mobs from range and they would lazily walk in your direction but not up the cliff at you.
i remember taking advantage of the stairs of execution grounds where the rock golems would not be able to go up the steps.
ok, i did that one time, but if i was better at it, i would have done it more often, but at the time i was way too low level, and it took more than an mp bar each.
they fix things.
but only after it becomes a problem.
yep its not a teleport spot but it can be easily done with a force move + restart
there is a lot of korean/japanese/asian/hindu/rice videos where people are porting with my teleport pack and they are on the top of the buldings/towers
if this would be an exploit or a bug it would be fixed after 10 years
Ok if it is possible be do this without it being an exploit, let me in on how I can get my toon on top of the tower then. I will log out there and when I see the red cats out I will log back in and kill his ****. That's all I need from this discussion. If it's deemed an exploit, have a GM move him. If it's not, show me how he did it so I can do it. That's all.
Before i start:
Is it an exploit if i shoot you from higher ground where you cant reach me? (imagine you're a melee class).
Is it an exploit if i summon my servitors and attack you with them, while running in a circle around some object to avoid you?
How he can get on top of something...
Everyone can take a fortress, and use a wyvern, you'll be able to go anywhere.
Logging out of sayune, many people dont know about this, but if you logout while using sayune, you will end up at the spot where you jumped. (now if this is a sayune spot idk, but just saying).
(I.e if you jump from A>B>C>D etc, and logout at "C", you will spawn at C when you login)
Now, combine these two with teleport from l2store, and you can go pretty much anywhere.
Not really necessary, but you wont have to fly back etc, which makes it easier for the future.
Before i start:
Is it an exploit if i shoot you from higher ground where you cant reach me? (imagine you're a melee class).
Is it an exploit if i summon my servitors and attack you with them, while running in a circle around some object to avoid you?
How he can get on top of something...
Everyone can take a fortress, and use a wyvern, you'll be able to go anywhere.
Logging out of sayune, many people dont know about this, but if you logout while using sayune, you will end up at the spot where you jumped. (now if this is a sayune spot idk, but just saying).
(I.e if you jump from A>B>C>D etc, and logout at "C", you will spawn at C when you login)
Now, combine these two with teleport from l2store, and you can go pretty much anywhere.
Not really necessary, but you wont have to fly back etc, which makes it easier for the future.
All that is fine and dandy, but, If you are perched on top of an object where you are safe reguardless of what class tries to attack you is that an exploit? This person is perched on top of the tower where I can not get my toon. I can not attack him reguardless of what class I use. It is not a teleport spot using sayune or scrolls or GK. It is a glitch or a bot function or something that I don't know about. I can't get my toon up there. He can still summon his pets and kill from that spot, when his pets die he just resummons them and continues to kill. He has support bots that buff his pets while he stays safe on top of the tower where I can't kill him. Killing his pets is no loss to him. He can't be killed by any class from anywhere. Now, is that an exploit or no? If not I will find out how to do it and the bots around there may as well move to another place because I will kill them repeatedly until they do. I appreciate the comments from people that know everything there is to know about L2 but I myself think this particular issue IS an exploit.
Before i start:
Is it an exploit if i shoot you from higher ground where you cant reach me? (imagine you're a melee class).
Is it an exploit if i summon my servitors and attack you with them, while running in a circle around some object to avoid you?
How he can get on top of something...
Everyone can take a fortress, and use a wyvern, you'll be able to go anywhere.
Logging out of sayune, many people dont know about this, but if you logout while using sayune, you will end up at the spot where you jumped. (now if this is a sayune spot idk, but just saying).
(I.e if you jump from A>B>C>D etc, and logout at "C", you will spawn at C when you login)
these examples if used to hunt monsters or pvp protected from attack...
are called Exploits. no, it's not an exploit that can get you +25 weapons.
or an exploit that can make you 10,000,000 adena a second.
but they are exploits.
do you know what exploit means?
i mentioned above that for the most part that this is not an issue.
therefore it goes un fixed or undetected.
but when something becomes exploited, in this case a pk character who can't be hit, and has free roam to gain xp, or kill unsuspecting players...
without risk of personal injury or harm.
if you find a spot like this it should be reported to a GM at once as an exploitable location.
because if the area is out of any serious pvp or pve location, then it is not harming anyone. but once it starts to harm the play, it becomes more than a casual harmless bug, and becomes an exploit.
these examples if used to hunt monsters or pvp protected from attack...
are called Exploits. no, it's not an exploit that can get you +25 weapons.
or an exploit that can make you 10,000,000 adena a second.
but they are exploits.
do you know what exploit means?
i mentioned above that for the most part that this is not an issue.
therefore it goes un fixed or undetected.
but when something becomes exploited, in this case a pk character who can't be hit, and has free roam to gain xp, or kill unsuspecting players...
without risk of personal injury or harm.
if you find a spot like this it should be reported to a GM at once as an exploitable location.
because if the area is out of any serious pvp or pve location, then it is not harming anyone. but once it starts to harm the play, it becomes more than a casual harmless bug, and becomes an exploit.
So, if you and i are fighting at parnassus, and you fall down.
My servitors chase you.
I stay up.
Am i abusing an exploit?
Afterall, im really high up and you cant reach me in any way, but my servitors are able to attack you.
It WOULD be an exploit if he was unattackable while still being able to attack PERSONALLY, then it is a terrain exploit, right now he is just smart and attacking from a distance, its NOT against the rules to HIDE while attacking with servitors.
The location he is hiding in is irrelevant.
Just because you dont know how to get there doesnt mean its an exploit.
Report these spots?
these spots are literally everywhere, anywhere you can fly, you can "exploit".
I dont see the problem either way, protecting his 24/7 bot party with 100 dmg from servitors?
So, if you and i are fighting at parnassus, and you fall down.
My servitors chase you.
I stay up.
Am i abusing an exploit?
Afterall, im really high up and you cant reach me in any way, but my servitors are able to attack you.
It WOULD be an exploit if he was unattackable while still being able to attack PERSONALLY, then it is a terrain exploit, right now he is just smart and attacking from a distance, its NOT against the rules to HIDE while attacking with servitors.
The location he is hiding in is irrelevant.
Just because you dont know how to get there doesnt mean its an exploit.
Report these spots?
these spots are literally everywhere, anywhere you can fly, you can "exploit".
I dont see the problem either way, protecting his 24/7 bot party with 100 dmg from servitors?
I saw him up there as well. There is no way to get to him and no way to get up there to get him. He is not at a location where you can teleport, run to, or fall to. I invite you to come mess with his bots until he logs in and kills you. You will see what we are talking about.
So, if you and i are fighting at parnassus, and you fall down.
My servitors chase you.
I stay up.
Am i abusing an exploit?
Afterall, im really high up and you cant reach me in any way, but my servitors are able to attack you.
It WOULD be an exploit if he was unattackable while still being able to attack PERSONALLY, then it is a terrain exploit, right now he is just smart and attacking from a distance, its NOT against the rules to HIDE while attacking with servitors.
The location he is hiding in is irrelevant.
Just because you dont know how to get there doesnt mean its an exploit.
Report these spots?
these spots are literally everywhere, anywhere you can fly, you can "exploit".
I dont see the problem either way, protecting his 24/7 bot party with 100 dmg from servitors?
Sounds like this guy might be you, as much as you defend what he is doing. It is relevant where he is if no one else can get to him to kill him. He is not in a hiding place, he is at a place where no one should be able to be. I'm pretty sure he did not ride a dragon to this spot. Haven't seen anyone with his toon's name own a castle yet. If he had fallen off a cliff and landed on top of the tower I could fall off the same cliff and get to where he is myself. That IS NOT THE CASE HERE! He is up there by some glitch and he needs to be moved, nuff said Zipperhead.
You can fly there with a a wyvern from a FORTRESS.
Again, it is not an exploit because he can not attack personally.
If i run up a mountain on my wynn, fall down into some "hole" half way down the mountain, no one would be able to attack me (unless they take the same route down), but my summons would be able to attack you.
Same situation as with wyvern, you cant reach me in a "easy way", but you can still reach.
Deal with it.
Either fly there and kill him, or run out of the attack range of his servitors.
Edit* An exploit would be if he is standing, say inside the tower, casting marks on people running by, while being safe from attacks.
That would be an exploit.
This is just clever tactics, if you may call it that.
You can fly there with a a wyvern from a FORTRESS.
Again, it is not an exploit because he can not attack personally.
If i run up a mountain on my wynn, fall down into some "hole" half way down the mountain, no one would be able to attack me (unless they take the same route down), but my summons would be able to attack you.
Same situation as with wyvern, you cant reach me in a "easy way", but you can still reach.
Deal with it.
Either fly there and kill him, or run out of the attack range of his servitors.
Edit* An exploit would be if he is standing, say inside the tower, casting marks on people running by, while being safe from attacks.
That would be an exploit.
This is just clever tactics, if you may call it that.
You falling into the hole would be something everyone can do, sitting on top of the tower isn't. If you are doing something that gives you an unfair advantage over everyone else, even if you got to that spot legitimately, it is exploitative. He is exploiting because he sits there knowing others can't touch him without having a wyvern. Just because it is possible for a select few to get to him, doesn't make it any less of an exploit. Also the exploit would be that he is abusing the spot in combination with his summons, not being in the spot itself.
Znipoo, stuff like this has actually occurred in the past and it is actually an exploit, including if you get there from a wyvern/falling, NC said it was a bannable exploit way back when.
To the OP, SS it and report it, as stated its a exploit, they will at worst warn him to knock it off, at best ban him, either way, problem solved.
Well now it seems there are several PKers up on the towers that connect the GF walls. I can target them but still can't attack them. Some of the PKs even have a buffer on the wall tower with them. Since it appears that the only way to get up there is to ride a wyvern can I get a rental? I promise to return it with very few scratches!
All Kidding aside though, the botters are now almost stacked on top of each other and are using the PKs to kill other groups of botters that invade their spots. Juji needs to make another run through there and have another coliseum death pile PLEASE! Everyday there is another bot party added. They are almost to the point of waiting for mobs to respawn like WOA.
you can actually get a rental.
it's from the PC points.
for a mere 2000 you can ride a wyvern for 5 minutes.
it's how i managed to get on top of Aden castle.
if you look around enough i'm sure you could find the pictures... but that's not important.
you can actually get a rental.
it's from the PC points.
for a mere 2000 you can ride a wyvern for 5 minutes.
it's how i managed to get on top of Aden castle.
if you look around enough i'm sure you could find the pictures... but that's not important.
I thought they removed pc points. I could never figure out how to get the store for them anyways