Anyone else sucking more now

Wynn Summoner Started Last reply 12 posts
ive noticed its harder to keep my summons from dying with erthia, same gear as before lvl 99 summoner, but even with spectral rage lvl 5 now i can barely solo GF now.
I'm bad with Acronyms. What is GF? Did you mean HF?


I haven't noticed anything much different than before the update.
Guillotine fortress, aka the old Executions ground.

I have not noticed what the op is talking about, if anything, my pets stay alive easier now.

I'm also 99 summoner. No eternal yet either, +6 seraph leather and all str tats, just a box for raids mostly.
only issue ive had in gf is wartags =p. Killing mobs just as easy. But im a arcana lord don't know if that matters or not.
why solo in GF? pagen is a lot better and Sp and xp there has been boosted there a lot.
they removed the barrier system in gf some time ago right?
so you'd think it would be easier now.
i'm sure you're just forgetting something.

which summons are you using?
are you using soul shots and spirit shots?
the barrier still exists, i was able to do this easily before and chose this spot to play with stacking the spectral rage (pagan mobs die to easy and hard to track DPS and target and spam the skill)

i was using souless's (we can argue over dps but if you do the math in nearly every situation 1100 range> the 200 additional atk speed of the lords.)

shots were on im fairly certain, its not like me to forget that and had lvl 3 buffs.


i was certain with the rage that they would be MUCH easier than before to kill not nearly the same but harder to keep my summons alive.
I think you're overestimating the effect of the P.Atk and Crit Dmg the Rage Buff adds. It's a nice addition, but it doesn't make them much easier to kill, IMO, especially since the Chaos Shield basically reduced dmg on the MOBs by 80-90% until it fades. Something like that, it's a lot.


Most of your qualms aren't with the damage you're doing, but with the damage the pets are taking - looking back at your OP. The Ranged Pets take more damage than the melee pets. I've never really found them hardy enough for GF, especially if you get a Scaldisect the Furious or pull some of the harder MOBs that use skills or AoEs that hit very hard...


I'm not sure if they adjusted the damage the MOBs there do since the update. I don't think they did, personally.
I haven't noticed anything much different than before the update.

I noticed just one thing: before the update, I was able to do ok in the Olympiad, sometimes I lasted long enough against tyrs and daggers, etc.
With crappy gear, I managed to made it to the top 3 on Chronos almost every month.

After the update, I have a feeling my summons are made of paper, even enchanters now kill them within seconds. I can't heal the summons fast enough, they die like moth.

I check other players' Oly stats regularly, and I see that other summoners do have the same problem: the same players that used to score over 100 pts every month now are stuck with pitiful 10-20 pts. Only a few uber geared summoners (those with +8 sets and other shiny thingies) are still able to score considerable numbers of points, all the rest have gone to the bottom of the Olympiad food chain by now. :(
I wish they would give us our 3rd (4th) pet back. I miss having 3 cougars or reaper behind me!
I noticed just one thing: before the update, I was able to do ok in the Olympiad, sometimes I lasted long enough against tyrs and daggers, etc.
With crappy gear, I managed to made it to the top 3 on Chronos almost every month.

After the update, I have a feeling my summons are made of paper, even enchanters now kill them within seconds. I can't heal the summons fast enough, they die like moth.

I check other players' Oly stats regularly, and I see that other summoners do have the same problem: the same players that used to score over 100 pts every month now are stuck with pitiful 10-20 pts. Only a few uber geared summoners (those with +8 sets and other shiny thingies) are still able to score considerable numbers of points, all the rest have gone to the bottom of the Olympiad food chain by now. :(
I don't do Olympiad, so I cannot really comment on that :-( MOBs don't seem to kill my servitors any faster now than before the update.
I wish they would give us our 3rd (4th) pet back. I miss having 3 cougars or reaper behind me!
Taking away the 3rd/4th Summons is what messed up Summoner Scaling. Wynns got the 4th DPS summon around level 95, which is right around the point when other classes start to get considerably better.


They also AoE'd better at high levels with 4 Reapers than they do now with 2 Ranged Summons. Quite a bit better.
I don't do Olympiad, so I cannot really comment on that :-( MOBs don't seem to kill my servitors any faster now than before the update.

Taking away the 3rd/4th Summons is what messed up Summoner Scaling. Wynns got the 4th DPS summon around level 95, which is right around the point when other classes start to get considerably better.


They also AoE'd better at high levels with 4 Reapers than they do now with 2 Ranged Summons. Quite a bit better.

It will probably take a few more updates to Balance things out. Or they will just leave us to be raid boss support and party teleporters. :-)