Mentoring System

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I see last few weeks we have a new fashion to racket, extort and blackmail mentors.
So called mentees cry everywhere on server for mentor and after they get invite the extortion begins. "Or u give me 4-5 mil for shots or i leave". One even asked for 10 mil. Got already 5 penalties on 2 chars because of this as....les. I mean wtf is happening here? They get 24/7 buff and free R grade gears after awakening and mentor must pay them for all this?

Think NC must change penalty system. If mentee leaves by himself he gets penalty not mentor.
That's not something new.It has been happening for years.That's why i never mentor anyone,i'm also not on 7/24.I also kicked many mentors because i said persistently '' Looking for mentor 7/24. '',when i log in he is off so it's my right to kick him off.

I also agree that mentor shouldn't receive a penalty for being kicked.It's dumb.It's even more dumb that when i have 3 mentee's one of them awakens and i get 2 days penalty again and can't replace new one.

No one should get a penalty,neither mentee or mentor if you ask me.
I see last few weeks we have a new fashion to racket, extort and blackmail mentors.
So called mentees cry everywhere on server for mentor and after they get invite the extortion begins. "Or u give me 4-5 mil for shots or i leave". One even asked for 10 mil. Got already 5 penalties on 2 chars because of this as....les. I mean wtf is happening here? They get 24/7 buff and free R grade gears after awakening and mentor must pay them for all this?

Think NC must change penalty system. If mentee leaves by himself he gets penalty not mentor.
How bold of them!

Seriously, if they don't get paid they will stop doing it. Hopefully. Maybe.

...No, I believe there's always someone dumb enough to fall for that. I understand that making adena is harder now, especially pre-85 where adena drops and rewards have been basically nullified, but from this to demanding money for the "privilege" of having a mentee...
That's not something new.It has been happening for years.That's why i never mentor anyone,i'm also not on 7/24.I also kicked many mentors because i said persistently '' Looking for mentor 7/24. '',when i log in he is off so it's my right to kick him off.

I also agree that mentor shouldn't receive a penalty for being kicked.It's dumb.It's even more dumb that when i have 3 mentee's one of them awakens and i get 2 days penalty again and can't replace new one.

No one should get a penalty,neither mentee or mentor if you ask me.

I got many mentees before and never got problems, but last 2-3 weeks this is something hilarious no normal mentees left only complete as..oles.

I understand that making adena is harder now, especially pre-85 where adena drops and rewards have been basically nullified

I leveled few chars to 85 after this nerfs. It is not really hard.
I got many mentees before and never got problems, but last 2-3 weeks this is something hilarious no normal mentees left only complete as..oles.

Maybe you should try kamael archers :p They don't kick and progress faster than anyone lol.
Adena sink didn't start because of adena nerf.No one made adena by picking them from floor.It was item drops,sold to npc or ah.1 or 2 updates before,i got 350kk from 78 to 80 in dragon valley by picking only dynasty weapons and selling them to grocer.Now nothing ever drops from 1 to 85 at all.
who cares ... if you 're gonna mentor randoms mentor them with the whatever toon you have fishing all day like everybody else does, if they ask for stuff kick them
I leveled few chars to 85 after this nerfs. It is not really hard.
Not hard for you or me because we know the tricks of the trade and got toons to support ourselves, but new players don't have all of this.
Not hard for you or me because we know the tricks of the trade and got toons to support ourselves, but new players don't have all of this.

I remember you were telling all players,including newbies to one-shot all mobs with an oed bow in order to be able to deal with griefers.What happened now ?
You have learned to empathise just now ?
Free EWB, free EWB everywhere.
I remember you claiming that i can't deal with summoner griefers,yes i can't,like most,while you can.Because you one-shot every mob from 40 to 85 with your oed bow.
Now you can see the contradiction right ? Ding ?
I also would like to see your slide-show one shotting mobs from 40 to 85 and don't hesitate to send a dragon valley one :D
Post delete,oww that was dumb :D
It's not my fault you don't have a 99 healer or iss to bring around to discourage griefers.
That's how I deal with the rare griefers.

Or you may want to change servers.

Or you may want to roll a Phantom Ranger or a Sayha's Seer. Which one-shot mobs from 40 to 85, but I guess this escaped you.

Because you aren't a new player, right?

Also eh, tell me how hard is to enchant a B grade bow with the free scrolls you get from quests.


P.S. I'm sorry if I changed the post to prevent another useless flamefest with you, but it seems that you can't stop poking people just to annoy them.
But please, continue in your long line of forum fails, in the meantime I can go XP my mentees without fearing griefers.
It's not my fault you don't have a 99 healer or iss to bring around to discourage griefers.
That's how I deal with the rare griefers.

Or you may want to change servers.

Or you may want to roll a Phantom Ranger or a Sayha's Seer. Which one-shot mobs from 40 to 85, but I guess this escaped you.

Because you aren't a new player, right?

Also eh, tell me how hard is to enchant a B grade bow with the free scrolls you get from quests.

Not hard for you or me because we know the tricks of the trade and got toons to support ourselves, but new players don't have all of this.

Would you like to tell us how many free ewb a toon gets from kekropus quests ?
Would you like to tell us how many b grade weapon a newbie can get with his coins to be able to make it an oed one ?
You don't consider an +4 bow as oed right ?
Would you like to tell new players,how they can have an 99 healer or iss to discourage the griefers ?
Since you told it,i would like to see your phantom ranger one shotting mobs with an oed b grade bow from 40 to 85,do not fear to send a dragon valley one :p
Normally i don't quote trolls,But you seem to play tricky like deleting posts :D
And in addition for classes,if people has to choose only a few classes to be able to deal with griefers,i would recommend them to pick the class which doesn't take aggro from mobs and immune against mark griefers.Think about it :D
P.S. I'm sorry if I changed the post to prevent another useless flamefest with you, but it seems that you can't stop poking people just to annoy them.
But please, continue in your long line of forum fails, in the meantime I can go XP my mentees without fearing griefers.

Don't get so angry.Since i am waiting a stuff to be sold,i come here to find a troll to entertain me some.It gets so funny when a troll is actually annoyed and gets serious :D
New category: fake new player.

Meh, actually a lot of the toons currently going around are alts of well established players. Except the one above, who doesn't own an OEd bow (and btw, I got a +6 B grade bow and it's enough to 1/2-shot mobs) despite saying he got one, doesn't have an awakened toon to act as a bodyguard despite saying he got a Wynn, and doesn't have friends to help him.

You look so sad, wanna me to roll on Chronos so you can take revenge on me with your Wynn? :°(

P.S. You forgot about the steel door coins from the store :D

Don't get so angry.Since i am waiting a stuff to be sold,i come here to find a troll to entertain me some.It gets so funny when a troll is actually annoyed and gets serious :D
*shakes head with a sad expression, almost crying because of the loneliness oozing from this post*
Actually you have included all players by throwing your crap about oed weapon thing.So it doesn't matter fake or not.You were one-shotting now it has become two-shot,well that's a progress.It's has already been told many times,while you have 1 hp it won't save newbie from death even if the whole server is escorting him,so a bad trial of trolling.
No i haven't forgot about 500 free steel coins,now you can make the calculation including them,do not hesitate to provide the information how many free ewb a toon would need and would get :D
Btw wts +16 shyeed's bow,which can not one shot in dragon valley.
BTW I agree that counter-trolling trolls is fun.

But are you that dumb to hunt in DV with a warrior? I thought better. Did you even read the monsters data?

Also, I one and two-shot mobs easily in Ketra Orc Outpost, Varka Silenos Stronghold and Plains of the Lizardmen, all the while without STR dyes... I don't know if you knew this, but Phantom Rangers and Ghost Sentinels crit hard, very hard, and with Iss buffs they crit basically every 2 hits (in case you don't one-shot already, that is).
Wts +16 shyeed's bow which can not one-shot auto provoked varka silenos warriors.
Wts brain for those who think mobs at dragon valley are weaker against magic.
Wts knowledge for those who still haven't learned that best classes for dragon valley are dagger and ertheia fighters,which are warrior types.
Wts brain for those who think mobs at dragon valley are weaker against magic.
Oh...my...god...

You made my day sir. I'll keep this post forever in my memory!
Adena sink didn't start because of adena nerf.No one made adena by picking them from floor.It was item drops,sold to npc or ah.1 or 2 updates before,i got 350kk from 78 to 80 in dragon valley by picking only dynasty weapons and selling them to grocer.Now nothing ever drops from 1 to 85 at all.

Ah you're wrong, very wrong.
Actually there are no big science out there ore some secret tricks. Till 40 u get shots from NPC, after 40 u buy shots for adena which u get from selling armor, weapon enchantment scrolls. Only for C grade weapon enchants u can get about 10 kk.
If someone griefs you, you have a few options:

1. If you are strong, kill the griefer.
2. If you are weak, move to a different spot, or even a different location, exp is exp wherever you can get it.
3. Call a friend who is strong, or a clannie, if you are social enough to be in a clan.

Back on topic: Havent had that problem with mentees yet, but its not like you are losing something not having one either. Who cares if you have a penalty for 2 days, maybe the next mentee sticks?
There was a guy in aden, not long time ago, shouting lf mentor, lf mentor. I mentored him, he imediately removed me and blocked me, then others did it too, and not after a long time there was only shout insults instead of trade shouts over there :D
check day time/night time monsters, you are both right and both wrong at the same time

You fail.Lazy for it now.
Check yourself
http://l2wiki.com/Dragon_Valley
check day time/night time monsters, you are both right and both wrong at the same time

actually nighttime mobs are even worse for mages, when ertheia launched if you run through DV after midnight ingame they 'd be a few dozen dead ertheia mages strewn around ... they are very high mdef and the skeleton archer thingees mow mages down
I don't want to humiliate you that much.Why do you still insist lol ?
Did you also notice the "strong pdef" icon?

And you wondered why a +16 A grade bow can't munch these mobs?

But w/e, only you would try going there with a bow instead of, who knows, Plains of the Lizardmen.
Wow,wow clever boy.Now lets check what you said :

BTW
But are you that dumb to hunt in DV with a warrior? I thought better. Did you even read the monsters data?



What does it mean ?
- Warrior types can't kill there,because mobs at dragon valley are weaker against magic.

And i 've just shown you that these mobs have both p.def and m.def resistance.So it's dumb thinking mobs at dragon valley are weaker against magic and if you even bothered to play any class except phantom ranger,you could have also noticed that best classes for dragon valley are,daggers - thanks to half kill and ertheia fighters - thanks to heavy punch.

Now go play hello kitty island.This one is pretty complicated for you.
Ahah well, I initially totally forgot that DV was reworked. In case you don't know, it used to be a mage hunting ground.
Contrary to you I can admit where I fail, but it seems that self-reflection is a very hard thing to do for you, much harder than playing Hello Kitty Online :D

Now please, if you think that melee toons can kill with ease in DV, why do you it with a bow? That's something I keep wondering.
Or rather, why do you hunt with archers if you can go in a safer and easier zone? You know, mobs give XP, it's not only about daily quests. But I guess you're one of those pampered players...

tl;dr I guess you fail at playing this game with every class if you're hunting with the wrong classes/weapons practically everywhere.
Fail boy fail.I would have admired your resignation if you hadn't insisted on failing again and again and i see you still fail again ; How ? - Listen here :
I 've never said meele toons,i said ertheia fighters and dagger which have instant damage boosts depending on luck,since you now know p or m def doesn't matter,you know right ?
If you say meele,tank,tyrr,iss,summoner these 4 classes sux at dragon valley too,compared to dagger and eviscerator of course.Safer you mean where ?
Varka ? There you don't one shot all and griefers too.Shrine of loyalty ? There you don't one shot all and griefers too.Lizardman ? I rather dv than lizardman at these level.You know why ? Dv mobs give huge exp now,and lizardman are for higher levels which will make you lose time and prone to be griefed also.

After that many failures,you shouldn't even try to tell that i fail at anything.
It's looks even more funny.You are just humiliating yourself.
Fail to react to griefers, boy.

You have been crying about content for more days than it takes to lvl past it. How can you not be 85 already?

Geez.
Fail more kid,with your false assumptions.
Still haven't learned how to deal with bots and putting your all hope on a glitch.Bots are clever than you i guess,since you cried way too much to not lose your only hope to be a match for them ( with a bug ).
Listen here :
I 've never said meele toons,i said ertheia fighters and dagger which have instant damage boosts depending on luck,since you now know p or m def doesn't matter,you know right ?
You realized they're melee toons... right?
So why do you use a bow to XP there?

Summoner a melee toon? Oh boy.
You know, pets don't count as player characters.

Did you manage to get a second twilight recipe yet?
Fail more kid,with your false assumptions.
Still haven't learned how to deal with bots and putting your all hope on a glitch.Bots are clever than you i guess,since you cried way too much to not lose your only hope to be a match for them ( with a bug ).

The day I make a cry thread about something I cant deal with, I will also fail.

So far thats You 2 - Me 0.

You go girl :D
You realized they're melee toons... right?
So why do you use a bow to XP there?

Summoner a melee toon? Oh boy.
You know, pets don't count as player characters.

Did you manage to get a second twilight recipe yet?

LoL have you not shame ?



if you think that melee toons can kill with ease in DV, .
You have said all meele toons here,while i said dagger and ertheia fighters are best for dragon valley (not all meele toons lol ! ).

Summoner pre-awakened is pretty much a meele toon,considering he is doing %90 meele damage.

Fail more.
The day I make a cry thread about something I cant deal with, I will also fail.

So far thats You 2 - Me 0.

You go girl :D

You don't have to make a thread,you already cry a river in everyone's thread.
Still LF explanation on why do you use a bow in DV if you think that melee toons such as Eviscerator and dagger can melee their way through it.

And if you go full melee with a pre-83 summoner... go for it, boy! I ain't stopping you from failing further.
Maybe because not all toons are dagger and eviscerator huh ?
Fail more kid.
So, why do you use a bow on whatever melee toon you're using if you complain you can't oneshot mobs.

Looks like you're using griefers as an excuse not to go XP in odd zones.
So you now want to say that you can also one shot all mobs with an oed sword,spear,axe,SHIEL ? lol.
Fail more.
No. I'm saying that you insist you can't oneshot mobs nor cope with griefers.

You can, if you go to the appropriate hunting zones.

But please, keep crashing into the same wall over and over again, the brain damage is going to affect you, not us smarter players.
Looks like you keep crashing the same wall over and over again.Since you insist on asking same stupid questions which have already received the answer required again and again.I hope you are trolling,because if you are not,it means a serious mental problem.
I have listed all appropriate zones already and even compared them with each to show your empty brain,which is more appropriate.Yet you still insist on failing harder each time.Cry more.