At first was this , http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=271476 .
Now I have to report that in Shilen after January 1st people from my constant party helping a member go for CoC hero by signing together with him ( not immediately but after few seconds when our candidate would say to do so so to maximize the chances to enter the same arena and help each other out ) got banned with reason being
" Your account benefited from access to Ceremony of Chaos instances at a rate that is impossible without automation assistance. This occurred within 24 hours of Jan. 2, 2015. "
The player that got this answer had infact signed 3 times at around 1am(gmt+2) on January 1st and 6-7 times on January 2nd from the time it started , always NOT auto-signing and always after candidate would count down on ventrillo for the rest ( including me ) to sign and try get him inside and got banned on Jan 2nd.The other player got banned today after making coc yesterday for a max of 2 hours between 11 gmt+2 - 1 am. Nor the number of signs nor the amount of signs dictate or even at the slightest hint that we actually abused ANYTHING in any shape or form to enter CoC and get an unfair advantage. I am writing this mainly to bring the attention of the community to this matter. I respect ncsoft trying to cut down the plague that is auto-signing coc bots and finding an auto way to keep them on a leash but something has gone HORRIBLY wrong with this. Getting banned member after all these years and after all these money poured into this game buying coins for such an unreal reason is something I find this absolutely outrageous to be honest and I can only hope this is resolved soon.
At first was this , http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=271476 .
Now I have to report that in Shilen after January 1st people from my constant party helping a member go for CoC hero by signing together with him ( not immediately but after few seconds when our candidate would say to do so so to maximize the chances to enter the same arena and help each other out ) got banned with reason being
" Your account benefited from access to Ceremony of Chaos instances at a rate that is impossible without automation assistance. This occurred within 24 hours of Jan. 2, 2015. "
The player that got this answer had infact signed 3 times at around 1am(gmt+2) on January 1st and 6-7 times on January 2nd from the time it started , always NOT auto-signing and always after candidate would count down on ventrillo for the rest ( including me ) to sign and try get him inside and got banned on Jan 2nd.The other player got banned today after making coc yesterday for a max of 2 hours between 11 gmt+2 - 1 am. Nor the number of signs nor the amount of signs dictate or even at the slightest hint that we actually abused ANYTHING in any shape or form to enter CoC and get an unfair advantage. I am writing this mainly to bring the attention of the community to this matter. I respect ncsoft trying to cut down the plague that is auto-signing coc bots and finding an auto way to keep them on a leash but something has gone HORRIBLY wrong with this. Getting banned member after all these years and after all these money poured into this game buying coins for such an unreal reason is something I find this absolutely outrageous to be honest and I can only hope this is resolved soon.
Whats more HORRIBLE is the way u and ur cp are totally automated at gainak most part of the day. Now considerating that i would not doubt u guyz cheating at coc aswell. Once cheaters forever cheaters. Enjoy ur time at banana.
Only fail i see is,rest of your '' Constant '' party not being banned.
Ceremony of '' Chaos ''.Everyone is enemy.No one should know any other inside.That's how it is supposed to be.
Strangely,all the people crying here about coc ban,end up entering the same wave,knowing each other inside and technically partying there,which is totally against the theme.
That bans are well deserved in my vision.Even if the reason '' 3rd party '' is a bit misleading,consequence is what it should be.
Only fail i see is,rest of your '' Constant '' party not being banned.
Ceremony of '' Chaos ''.Everyone is enemy.No one should know any other inside.That's how it is supposed to be.
Strangely,all the people crying here about coc ban,end up entering the same wave,knowing each other inside and technically partying there,which is totally against the theme.
That bans are well deserved in my vision.Even if the reason '' 3rd party '' is a bit misleading,consequence is what it should be.
Mr smarty pants , we enter same wave because we wait a bit before entering and count in ventrilo to enter together. After entering it's easy to tell each other which are a are you in and to find each other since armors are not changed and it's quite easy to tell each other apart ( in fact people that frequent coc can tell exactly who the other person is by this factor alone, if that person is anyone that matters of course ). If nc soft didn't want this they could easily cloak players appearance also not just weapons , so like it or not THIS is not ban able and to begin with incase you can't understand what you read you can see the reason of ban was other and that it was in fact 100% uncalled for .
Whats more HORRIBLE is the way u and ur cp are totally automated at gainak most part of the day. Now considerating that i would not doubt u guyz cheating at coc aswell. Once cheaters forever cheaters. Enjoy ur time at banana.
We only do Gainaks the part of the day our cp is active , I assume though that during those times you cannot even compete for it and that's why you re mad. What I'm saying is there is no logical point behind cheating entrance to coc , in fact using anything to automate that would be counter productive to supporting our cause ( getting the coc hero ) so I don't even know that's not crystal clear to you .
We only do Gainaks the part of the day our cp is active , I assume though that during those times you cannot even compete for it and that's why you re mad. What I'm saying is there is no logical point behind cheating entrance to coc , in fact using anything to automate that would be counter productive to supporting our cause ( getting the coc hero ) so I don't even know that's not crystal clear to you .
Automated most part of the day at gainak. (can provide u video if u need with all toons on follow and assist of ur toon >Godforgives). idty and seliniasmenos deserve to be at banana. Just hope u and the rest of ur cp will join them soon
Getting banned member after all these years and after all these money poured into this game buying coins
Hm, hm, so even his money did not save him from ban, that is nice thing to see, NCsoft! Keep going. That is what must be done. No botters should feel themselves safe only because they buy coins.
Hm, hm, so even his money did not save him from ban, that is nice thing to see, NCsoft! Keep going. That is what must be done. No botters should feel themselves safe only because they buy coins.
Except we did NOT auto sign CoC as that would on top of everything be counter-productive for what we wanted to do ( get hero coc ) and as paying customers getting ban for something random that is not true , oh boy that stinks.
Nice to see this botters that try to be "legit" going down
NJ NCSoft and Happy 2015! =D
This envy and feeling happy for somebody's loss is basic human nature but I can only wish you re never in the same position of being banned for something that doesnt hold true.
You are pathetic dude... 24/7 afk on gainak with follow and assist and run betwen spots, auto targeting on monitored zones and sending XX packets to server, You are just dumb, thats why you are banned dude... It happen when someone play 100% automated and afk and even with it is so bad...
You are pathetic dude... 24/7 afk on gainak with follow and assist and run betwen spots, auto targeting on monitored zones and sending XX packets to server, You are just dumb, thats why you are banned dude... It happen when someone play 100% automated and afk and even with it is so bad...
We re never playing 24/7 , let alone 24/7 afk. I dont know what you re writing there but I guess selling scripts for a living you know better about botting than I do.
p.s. I'm not banned and I guess I wont play CoC at all to avoid getting banned from this fail system
We re never playing 24/7 , let alone 24/7 afk. I dont know what you re writing there but I guess selling scripts for a living you know better about botting than I do.
p.s. I'm not banned and I guess I wont play CoC at all to avoid getting banned from this fail system
Never played afk, and your afk party in gainak ? pathetic guy, stop cry about ban ;]
Turn off Z and i can promise you can play safe 100% :) or you can't w/o z?
Never played afk, and your afk party in gainak ? pathetic guy, stop cry about ban ;]
Turn off Z and i can promise you can play safe 100% :) or you can't w/o z?
I dont have an afk party anywhere, doubt you can say the same , not using anything on your main ( if true ) doesnt make you any less guilty if you re a script seller at the end of the day so please get the **** out if you dont have to comment anything useful here. Thanks for the free scripting lessons provided in your previous reply but I dont need any and they re irellevant with the topic being that toons on more than one occassion got banned for automating signing CoC which is nowhere near the truth.
Mr smarty pants , we enter same wave because we wait a bit before entering and count in ventrilo to enter together. After entering it's easy to tell each other which are a are you in and to find each other since armors are not changed and it's quite easy to tell each other apart ( in fact people that frequent coc can tell exactly who the other person is by this factor alone, if that person is anyone that matters of course ). If nc soft didn't want this they could easily cloak players appearance also not just weapons , so like it or not THIS is not ban able and to begin with incase you can't understand what you read you can see the reason of ban was other and that it was in fact 100% uncalled for .
Clever boy.Can you tell us how many seconds you count ? Because after 5 or so seconds it gets full and won't let you participate anymore.
Some people may have unique look on their characters which can represent their true idendity.That can be done by chance,maybe once or second time if you are so lucky,sparing a friend inside.But,you yourself admit that you are entering same wave all the time with so many people informing each other about who is number what ... completely abusing the system.
What you are doing seems wrong from all perspectives ; Partying in a place over and over again,where everyone should be enemy,also being able to enter the same wave over and over again,which seems quite fishy ...
Go cry more.
Clever boy.Can you tell us how many seconds you count ? Because after 5 or so seconds it gets full and won't let you participate anymore.
Some people may have unique look on their characters which can represent their true idendity.That can be done by chance,maybe once or second time if you are so lucky,sparing a friend inside.But,you yourself admit that you are entering same wave all the time with so many people informing each other about who is number what ... completely abusing the system.
What you are doing seems wrong from all perspectives ; Partying in a place over and over again,where everyone should be enemy,also being able to enter the same wave over and over again,which seems quite fishy ...
Go cry more.
If you were clever yourself you would log any week day on Shilen ( or any lower populated server for that matter ) and see that even 1minute after pop-up it still isnt full.
I never said we inform anyone who is number what and fyi those numbers are different to everyone inside but its easy to speak on ventrillo and say in which arena you are and if in the same arena to help the hero candidate if he is in the same with you. If you have issues with how CoC work petition the Koreans to change , the topic isnt this , the topic is that 2 ( more ) players got banned for something that simply isnt true ( joining coc automatically ).I suggest if you have any time left to go cry yourself.
we enter same wave because we wait a bit before entering and count in ventrilo to enter together.
I can see how "signing at the same time" may help to get in the same wave in the Olympiad, but your story of using the same approach in CoC sounds like complete bullcrap.
There are 6 arenas that usually get filled in less than 2 seconds, players get in there randomly, and you can't control that process unless you've found some unlegit way to exploit the system.
If you have issues with how CoC work petition the Koreans to change , the topic isnt this , the topic is that 2 ( more ) players got banned for something that simply isnt true ( joining coc automatically ).
Based on what I've witnessed in the past (when Nova was on Chronos), let's guess which unfair tactics could have been used to "help your hero candidate":
- once your "team" is in, automatically sign up a hundred of bots to prevent your opponents from participation;
- program your bots to use lethal books against the opponents;
- program your bots to run to your candidate as soon as the match starts so that he can get a bunch of free kills within seconds.
What if the players in question have been involved in that activity? Involved as the owners of those bots, for example.
It's just speculation, but we may never know for sure... yet the GMs should.
I can see how "signing at the same time" may help to get in the same wave in the Olympiad, but your story of using the same approach in CoC sounds like complete bullcrap.
There are 6 arenas that usually get filled in less than 2 seconds, players get in there randomly, and you can't control that process unless you've found some unlegit way to exploit the system.
In naia chronos , it is filled in 2seconds , in lesser population servers you can wait even a minute to sign and you can check this yourself.Signing on same time seems to work for us so far most of the time.
Based on what I've witnessed in the past (when Nova was on Chronos), let's guess which unfair tactics could have been used to "help your hero candidate":
- once your "team" is in, automatically sign up a hundred of bots to prevent your opponents from participation;
- program your bots to use lethal books against the opponents;
- program your bots to run to your candidate as soon as the match starts so that he can get a bunch of free kills within seconds.
What if the players in question have been involved in that activity?
It's just speculation, but we may never know for sure... yet the GMs should.
No such thing happened or anyone implied of happening here . I think requesting people to read starting post is too much for most.
" Your account benefited from access to Ceremony of Chaos instances at a rate that is impossible without automation assistance. This occurred within 24 hours of Jan. 2, 2015. "
You called it a basic human nature,feeling happy for somebody's loss.
I call it a basic human (Most basic ones) nature,trying to take advantage of any opening they can find.
You abused the system with your useless rout,took advantage over other people to give the stupid evil smile on your face,felt all happy for easily being able to best others without any risks.
At first was this , http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=271476 .
Now I have to report that in Shilen after January 1st people from my constant party helping a member go for CoC hero by signing together with him ( not immediately but after few seconds when our candidate would say to do so so to maximize the chances to enter the same arena and help each other out ) got banned with reason being
" Your account benefited from access to Ceremony of Chaos instances at a rate that is impossible without automation assistance. This occurred within 24 hours of Jan. 2, 2015. "
The player that got this answer had infact signed 3 times at around 1am(gmt+2) on January 1st and 6-7 times on January 2nd from the time it started , always NOT auto-signing and always after candidate would count down on ventrillo for the rest ( including me ) to sign and try get him inside and got banned on Jan 2nd.The other player got banned today after making coc yesterday for a max of 2 hours between 11 gmt+2 - 1 am. Nor the number of signs nor the amount of signs dictate or even at the slightest hint that we actually abused ANYTHING in any shape or form to enter CoC and get an unfair advantage. I am writing this mainly to bring the attention of the community to this matter. I respect ncsoft trying to cut down the plague that is auto-signing coc bots and finding an auto way to keep them on a leash but something has gone HORRIBLY wrong with this. Getting banned member after all these years and after all these money poured into this game buying coins for such an unreal reason is something I find this absolutely outrageous to be honest and I can only hope this is resolved soon.
For this stupid post í would only want to say, Ú ALL SHOULD BÊ BANNED.
1st thing that says in coc when ú enter : " Here are no allys"
Respect Game , and game will respect ú for sure.
Regards,
lol for the people crying that they help each other in COC and should be banned for that? shut up lol. This is a team game and although it says you have no allies when you enter you know that you do. Anyone going to COC hero is going to have their clan help them. You would be stupid not to.
As for Eternaldark or whoever is posting here, you are wasting your time making this post. The only chance that you have of your members getting unbanned is for them and only them to make a support ticket. If the GM does not side in your favor well then sorry nothing more you can do.
ncsoft staff dont play the game, they dont know a **** thing about l2, its just a job, its like that episode from southpark were the owners said that have a life and never played wow.
they cant detected bot, they dont know a **** thing about pvp/bot/pvpbot/pve/pvebot, even when we show and post on forum.
and now this........... thats a joke....... really..... they ban ppl from the same clan that sign at same time at coc?
man i felt bad when i think i didnt quit when the game turned f2p and i pay for it, 2 years geting sick watching the best game ever turn into this ********.
please, ******* ******** give us a subscription server!!!!!!!!!stop this madness, staff should have interest in the game that give them money.
btw, about the elder´s wife problem, MANNN ELDER WAS EVER ON LOWGEAR, AND MOST OF HIS MEMBER, WTF NCWEST............A BOT USER LL NEVER BE ON LOWGEAR.
ncsoft staff dont play the game, they dont know a **** thing about l2, its just a job, its like that episode from southpark were the owners said that have a life and never played wow.
they cant detected bot, they dont know a **** thing about pvp/bot/pvpbot/pve/pvebot, even when we show and post on forum.
and now this........... thats a joke....... really..... they ban ppl from the same clan that sign at same time at coc?
man i felt bad when i think i didnt quit when the game turned f2p and i pay for it, 2 years geting sick watching the best game ever turn into this ********.
please, ******* ******** give us a subscription server!!!!!!!!!stop this madness, staff should have interest in the game that give them money.
btw, about the elder´s wife problem, MANNN ELDER WAS EVER ON LOWGEAR, AND MOST OF HIS MEMBER, WTF NCWEST............A BOT USER LL NEVER BE ON LOWGEAR.