Compound Rate Changed ???

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Well,

I'd like people that bought la La Vie en Rose Jewels from the first time event to comment here if u're trying to compound again on the return of event and what are u thinking about the RATE cuz im seeing many unsatisfied people from 2 big clans commenting in clan chats about compound experience today...

They most say that is beeing hard to reach even a lvl 2 jewel (obsidian, ruby, etc...)


Lets do some math... and help each other:(

well im editing my post after buy 80 chest pack

i got :
4 X RUBY
6 X SAPHIRE
1 X TOPAZ
14 X EMERALD
17 X AQUAMARINE
12 X DIAMOND
8 X OPAL
14 X PEARL
4 X OBSIDIAN

TOTAL 80
Do you even now what was the original success rate? (for lvl 4/5 jewels)
Ruby has basically decided to tell me to go do inappropriate things with myself. You barely get any from the random boxes, and with those you're lucky if you manage to get one to go to 3.

Obsidian was the next worst of the ones I tried.
Do you even now what was the original success rate? (for lvl 4/5 jewels)

First round I never got any 5's. Neither did anyone I personally knew. Pretty crap rate.

But I got a few 4's then, and it took a LOT more this time to even get 3's, let alone 4's.
to me it feels like the rates have dropped if thats the case then i wont be buying any more jewls
Ruby has basically decided to tell me to go do inappropriate things with myself. You barely get any from the random boxes, and with those you're lucky if you manage to get one to go to 3.

Obsidian was the next worst of the ones I tried.

34 ruby boxes got me a lvl4 which isn't that bad but of course it failed to lvl5 when I tried to combine it with the lvl4 I had from last event.. makes my total of lvl4 ruby's to 3 spread over 2 events with 2x fail.. :(

expecting a lvl5 out of anything less then 100+ boxes is naive as almost nobody is that lucky except for 1 orc I know but she's a different story..
34 ruby boxes got me a lvl4 which isn't that bad but of course it failed to lvl5 when I tried to combine it with the lvl4 I had from last event.. makes my total of lvl4 ruby's to 3 spread over 2 events with 2x fail.. :(

expecting a lvl5 out of anything less then 100+ boxes is naive as almost nobody is that lucky except for 1 orc I know but she's a different story..

I'd settle with a 4. But more boxes than you and still only level 3 (and I had a 2 coming into this event already).
The compound rates have not changed from last year.
Do you even now what was the original success rate? (for lvl 4/5 jewels)

i heard 4 to 5 lvl is 2,5% chance so its almost impossible...

i tryed few to lvl 5 on the begining and stopped on first time event... not now
The compound rates have not changed from last year.

so everyone have bad luck this year Vali ?
Cuz i got 1 topaz in 80 boxes... and i think yes rate was changed since im talking to many people, some didnt even get topaz in 80 boxes, and i remember i used to got 1 to 3 topaz in each 40 boxes on first time event...
so everyone have bad luck this year Vali ?
Cuz i got 1 topaz in 80 boxes... and i think yes rate was changed since im talking to many people, some didnt even get topaz in 80 boxes, and i remember i used to got 1 to 3 topaz in each 40 boxes on first time event...

320 boxes, 3 topaz.
Only a handful of rubies.
320 boxes, 3 topaz.
Only a handful of rubies.

So yeah, Vali will not convince me that they didnt change rate cuz with 320 boxes on first time event u could get at least 6 topaz even with the worst luck like me...

also to get lvl 3 or 4 i think rate was decreased...
320 boxes only 2 topaz and 35 ruby, using the 35th for my buy shop as I'm a die hard ^^"

btw it took me ~130 boxes to make a lvl5 Opal last event which imo is adding more dps then a lvl5 ruby/sapphire when stacked with fishing agethion and/or 16th AP skills and/or 7sign Talisman

it's a huge boost in dps when you have more elemental patt then your target has in resist - pve & pvp
320 boxes only 2 topaz and 35 ruby, using the 35th for my buy shop as I'm a die hard ^^"

btw it took me ~130 boxes to make a lvl5 Opal last event which imo is adding more dps then a lvl5 ruby/sapphire when stacked with fishing agethion and/or 16th AP skills and/or 7sign Talisman

it's a huge boost in dps when you have more elemental patt then your target has in resist - pve & pvp

It is, but it varies greatly depending on just how much you can add, and who/what you're fighting. If anyone/thing has just a bit more than usual of your attack element it nerfs your damage pretty bad.

The ruby/sapphire are just nice since it's not reliant upon anything like that.
not many players/mobs have more then 560 elemental resist which you can get with what I mention and even 20 more if you use the Mysterious Wind Scroll from the NC Store or 150 more when using a Tauti weapon (but can't recommend the latter as the lack of decent oe/patt hurts dps more then the 150 ele boost makes up for)

btw how would it nerf dps if you miss to beat elemental resists when without stacking like above you will be default never overcome said resists in the first place ?

w/e obviously having a lvl 4 or higher opal & ruby/sapphire (PVE only add: Emerald) combi is the best to get
by the way, speaking of compounding.
does the rate of cancellation go up with the level of the Topaz? or is it always 100%?
good question, I thought it was 100% but 2 Dim Sieges ago I topazed a castle scribe attempt from FS and it failed to interrupt the cast so that was quite bizar
400 boxes

9 topaz
32 ruby
19 saph


think i am gonna sell all these boxes as my luck is horrible

whats the goin rate? is it better to sell now or later?

someone said it costs close to 800 boxes to make all level 4's...guess if you focus on just 1 jewel you might be able to make a 5 for 500 bucks.
good question, I thought it was 100% but 2 Dim Sieges ago I topazed a castle scribe attempt from FS and it failed to interrupt the cast so that was quite bizar

It's not a guarantee, I've seen it not block many times. But exactly what affects it, I have no idea.
During the previous event I opened 100+ jewel boxes: out of them I got 0 Topaz, 2 Ruby, something like 60+ Aquamarine, and a handful of other jewels.

In average it took me 10-15 of lvl 1 jewels to make a lvl 3 jewel.
Since I knew the success rate on higher level jewels was pretty low, I never tried to go above lvl 3.
400 boxes

9 topaz
32 ruby
19 saph


think i am gonna sell all these boxes as my luck is horrible

whats the goin rate? is it better to sell now or later?

someone said it costs close to 800 boxes to make all level 4's...guess if you focus on just 1 jewel you might be able to make a 5 for 500 bucks.

even with alot of boxes its luck, not 100% sure u will get a lvl 5... idk when they will bring event again after this one, so better wait some months... if u wanna make money...
not many players/mobs have more then 560 elemental resist which you can get with what I mention and even 20 more if you use the Mysterious Wind Scroll from the NC Store or 150 more when using a Tauti weapon (but can't recommend the latter as the lack of decent oe/patt hurts dps more then the 150 ele boost makes up for)

btw how would it nerf dps if you miss to beat elemental resists when without stacking like above you will be default never overcome said resists in the first place ?

w/e obviously having a lvl 4 or higher opal & ruby/sapphire (PVE only add: Emerald) combi is the best to get

That's why I said depending what you can put into it. If it's just from the jewel (level 2-3), it's not really worth it.
If it's a level 5 + ap, + other stuff it will. But for a lot of people they would only be getting the addition of a 1-3 opal... which is going to be pretty easy to negate vs the state element independent damage from the ruby/sapphire.

I do agree however that stacking element is a nice way to go, but you sort of have to build around that specifically. It's like having a higher patk tauti weapon (just with less extra pvp damage from the SA's).
does the rate of cancellation go up with the level of the Topaz? or is it always 100%?

In my case, the rate of cancellation is 0%. :p

I have a lvl 2 Topaz and all I ever see in the system chat is "<player> has resisted your Topaz: Spiritshot."
320 boxes is close to 400 buckeroos. DAAAAAYAMN! Great marketing strategy, NCSOft West. It's practically up there with New Coke going back to Coke Classic. Hummers for Hummers. And the RMT guys made out like bandits, too. Nice :D
320 boxes is close to 400 buckeroos. DAAAAAYAMN! Great marketing strategy, NCSOft West. It's practically up there with New Coke going back to Coke Classic. Hummers for Hummers. And the RMT guys made out like bandits, too. Nice :D

As if there was any doubt there would be a ton spend on it. I would have preferred to not spend as much to be sure. But I also know there will be people spending way more. Hero's are buying a LOT of some of the boxes, people are looking to cash in some ncoin for a bunch of adena.
As if there was any doubt there would be a ton spend on it. I would have preferred to not spend as much to be sure. But I also know there will be people spending way more. Hero's are buying a LOT of some of the boxes, people are looking to cash in some ncoin for a bunch of adena.

If you want to keep up with the competition, you have to pay into the system. The other alternative is to break the system, but that would only get you tossed. Between having 400 dollars US in my pocket or tossing it into a game with spotty service, I'd pick the sure thing and that is something that has substance and meaning.
I really should not have stayed up and peer-pressured to buy the $100 event brooch jewel packx80. Perhaps I would have made more profit from selling, instead of compounding them to dust.

$100 got me a bunch of single lvl 3 jewels. Failed 5-10x going to lvl 4.
So I'm guessing on average percentage...unless you're just flat out lucky, you'd need to spend $300-500 for around 1-5x lvl 4 jewels. and close to $1000, for some chance at lvl 5s.

That's just sad. lol
i think the changed samthink is not normal at 80 box take 1 topaz ..

old event is better i think

and 100$ for 80 box :eek::eek:
I really should not have stayed up and peer-pressured to buy the $100 event brooch jewel packx80. Perhaps I would have made more profit from selling, instead of compounding them to dust.

$100 got me a bunch of single lvl 3 jewels. Failed 5-10x going to lvl 4.
So I'm guessing on average percentage...unless you're just flat out lucky, you'd need to spend $300-500 for around 1-5x lvl 4 jewels. and close to $1000, for some chance at lvl 5s.

That's just sad. lol

It's typical l2 random, meaning it's VERY heavily weighted "random". You're going to find a few people who used like $20-$40 worth of jewels and wound up with a level 5 of something, or a few level 4's. And there's going to be plenty that used a decent chunk over $1k worth of Jewels and don't have a single level 5 to show for it (and may not even have many level 4's either).
Fix me if i'm wrong but i think the rates are/were:

Lv 1 -> Lv 2 = 60%
Lv 2 -> Lv 3 = 30%
Lv 3 -> Lv 4 = 10%
Lv 4 -> Lv 5 = 03%
Fix me if i'm wrong but i think the rates are/were:

Lv 1 -> Lv 2 = 60%
Lv 2 -> Lv 3 = 30%
Lv 3 -> Lv 4 = 10%
Lv 4 -> Lv 5 = 03%

I didn't get anywhere near that success rate for 1-2 on rubies (closer to 20%). And obsidian was closer to 30-40%. But 60% sounds about right for the others I tried.

2-3 was similarly lowered for ruby/obsidian for me, but 3-4 sounds right. Never had any go to 5, so for me it's 0% so far. :)
Spend 100 bucks 80 boxes got me
3 topaz
7obsidian
17 diamond
12 pearl
7 ruby
9 ish opal
and the rest I cant remember
topaz failed ofcourse.
with lvl 3 diamond I had from last year Igot to lvl 4
opal I had lvl 3 from previous that vent to 4
Obsidian i spent 1 bill and the 7 I got never vent to 4 think failed like 5 times if not more
Maybe we wont see that many topaz lvl 4-5 after all.
I didn't get anywhere near that success rate for 1-2 on rubies (closer to 20%). And obsidian was closer to 30-40%. But 60% sounds about right for the others I tried.

2-3 was similarly lowered for ruby/obsidian for me, but 3-4 sounds right. Never had any go to 5, so for me it's 0% so far. :)

yeah me neither, tried like 10 times to make a ruby Lv 3... none :O
Fix me if i'm wrong but i think the rates are/were:

Lv 1 -> Lv 2 = 60%
Lv 2 -> Lv 3 = 30%
Lv 3 -> Lv 4 = 10%
Lv 4 -> Lv 5 = 03%

I believe too that the success rates depend on the jewels that you compound. However I believe there is some truth on the rates you provide too.

Does LUC affects the success rate of compounding items ?
I believe too that the success rates depend on the jewels that you compound. However I believe there is some truth on the rates you provide too.

Does LUC affects the success rate of compounding items ?

I don't think luck triggers on compounding, think only at crafting
lolz to all the QQing. from my tests, the rates are the same. people are just used to combining the venir talismans. you guys really think they would put in the same success rates as the first time venir's came out? keep dreaming
Fix me if i'm wrong but i think the rates are/were:

Lv 1 -> Lv 2 = 60%
Lv 2 -> Lv 3 = 30%
Lv 3 -> Lv 4 = 10%
Lv 4 -> Lv 5 = 03%
From my Personal Experience from Brooch Event last year:

Lv 1 -> Lv 2 = 50% Success (1/2) [3 Average] // Piece of Cake
Lv 2 -> Lv 3 = 33% Success (1/3) [10 Average] // Easy
Lv 3 -> Lv 4 = 20% Success (1/5) [50 Average] // Doable
Lv 4 -> Lv 5 = 10% Success (1/10) [500 Average] // Better spend Adena on Anakim or COC Belt.

[Average] = Amount of Jewelry Boxes same Type.

Cheers,
Bennie
lolz to all the QQing. from my tests, the rates are the same. people are just used to combining the venir talismans. you guys really think they would put in the same success rates as the first time venir's came out? keep dreaming

Well i agree that it shouldn't be 100% like venir :)
And i also agree those thingies are WAY OP on Lv4 and Lv5 so, i'm fine with the rates :)
I just won't FOCUS all my money/adena on it :P
The compound rates have not changed from last year.

Could you give a detailed explanation to the compound rates? Are they static all the way up, or is it lower as you progress? What are the percentages?
560 box and I did:

lvl 5 Opal
lvl 5 Sapphire
lvl 4 Obsidian
lvl 4 Ruby
lvl 4 Emerald
lvl 4 Aquamarine
lvl 4 Diamond
lvl 4 Pearl
lvl 3 Topaz

Spent a lot but I'm happy :D
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