So in Russia/Korea 100-101 is less XP than 99-100, Russia claims it's about 2.3 trillion xp to hit 101.
At 99 I was making 1.45%/hour with effective 6x XP from items.
At 100 I'm making 0.56%/hour with effective 8x XP from items and server settings.
This is in exactly the same location. 1billion XP from a mob only put me up 0.01%.... Something seems wrong.
Have you seen the disaster that this patch is in more ways than that? Just saying everybody is feeling something.
There's tons of issues people are having, but 101 going from 2.3 trillion XP in Russia to ~10 Trillion XP in our version is a BIG difference.
If it were how it is in Korea/Russia then I'd happily buy vit etc and grind through it.... as it is it's just far too slow to bother trying to hit 101 with vit/runes.
There's tons of issues people are having, but 101 going from 2.3 trillion XP in Russia to ~10 Trillion XP in our version is a BIG difference.
If it were how it is in Korea/Russia then I'd happily buy vit etc and grind through it.... as it is it's just far too slow to bother trying to hit 101 with vit/runes.
Yeah someone else did a raid for 8b exp and only got 0.08% which would put 100-101 at around 10T. Seems they tweaked our exp tables a bit... Wonder what else they tweaked....
Yeah it was worth buying exp stuff to power through to 101 but with the changed exp requirements I am majorly discouraged from doing so.
with this patch they made the game easier on xp on the oficial version(korea), that's why.
But like always, they dont give ous the full update....
It's good as it is anyway. Wherever wants to get there (101+), will buy runes and other boosts.
We are probably not getting anything new until next patch in 6-8 months.
Where you make 1,45 % / h on 99? Thanks for advice ^^
Just soloing Dim Warp.... a little slower now on healer though, they nerfed hell outta our nukes.
Back on topic...
I'm hoping this isn't intentional, but rather a bug related to the emergency maintenance they did to adjust the XP curve.
I've never heard of a case where there's been a different xp curve in different territories before. Considering 101 has new skills and the next level of skill expansion for many classes having 10 trillion xp from 100->101 is pretty insane, people are already burned out after doing 99->100.
They will take 6 monts to look at the issue and fix 1 month before new update.
All in the name of $.
They're most likely not gonna fix it. The more xp you need the more brainless will buy runes. So for them is not a bug,and is probably intended.
GGWP NCWest once again,this is why we can't have good things. And feel free to removed my post again (like the 50th time in 1 month) and give me another "penalty" lol.
looks like a 30 day grind to 101 with a top party in new hunting areas. I dont think avg geared toons would do well. that 30 days, doubt many will be running all vit/pots for entire month.
looks like a 30 day grind to 101 with a top party in new hunting areas. I dont think avg geared toons would do well. that 30 days, doubt many will be running all vit/pots for entire month.
too bad, if this done on purpose.
Yeah, I was planning on hitting Dim hardcore on my healer with pots etc to get 101, then play summoner. With the XP as it is I'm not wasting that kind of cash on pots, I'll just get my summoner to 100 instead.
0.6% an hour with pots and server settings giving 9x base xp is just horrible. It's certainly going to make pvp different, so many people cutting down on pvp because of the XP loss.
It isn't brilliant, it's overstepping the boundaries of greed. There is a fine line between dedication and insanity - getting 99 with 16AP was dedication, expecting someone to get 100,000,000,000,000 XP for one level, while spending money to increase XP 800%, and only giving them .56% per hour is beyond insanity. NCSoft should really be ashamed, they are playing you guys like a fiddle.
It isn't brilliant, it's overstepping the boundaries of greed. There is a fine line between dedication and insanity - getting 99 with 16AP was dedication, expecting someone to get 100,000,000,000,000 XP for one level, while spending money to increase XP 800%, and only giving them .56% per hour is beyond insanity. NCSoft should really be ashamed, they are playing you guys like a fiddle.
getting 79 -> 80 on 0% bonus was the real dedication. anything after that is overkill of life time.
Can we assume from the lack of replies from NCSoft that the current XP table is the one we suppose to get?
EDIT: As most of the players here, not planning on investing anything to get to 101 in this conditions. Specially after finding out that the new areas are worst XP/SP places then the ones we already have.
Can we assume from the lack of replies from NCSoft that the current XP table is the one we suppose to get?
EDIT: As most of the players here, not planning on investing anything to get to 101 in this conditions. Specially after finding out that the new areas are worst XP/SP places then the ones we already have.
You're wrong on that, many many people already invested in runes, scrolls and pots.I know at least 12 that did. Many more for sure doing it.
The xp at EV duo/solo is way faster than most other old places, including DW.Also if your group can handle AOE in the fortress, then it's a heaven for xp.
It isn't brilliant, it's overstepping the boundaries of greed. There is a fine line between dedication and insanity - getting 99 with 16AP was dedication, expecting someone to get 100,000,000,000,000 XP for one level, while spending money to increase XP 800%, and only giving them .56% per hour is beyond insanity. NCSoft should really be ashamed, they are playing you guys like a fiddle.
If you've made it to level 100, then you already farmed a level that required over 6.5T XP, what's the problem? Just be a good client, buy boosts.
You're wrong on that, many many people already invested in runes, scrolls and pots.I know at least 12 that did. Many more for sure doing it.
The xp at EV duo/solo is way faster than most other old places, including DW.Also if your group can handle AOE in the fortress, then it's a heaven for xp.
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About the areas, we tried aoe on the fortress, it is a decent place (if you can tank, witch i think no tank in my server can) but doing 2 pits on LOC still better then that.
You're wrong on that, many many people already invested in runes, scrolls and pots.I know at least 12 that did. Many more for sure doing it.
The xp at EV duo/solo is way faster than most other old places, including DW.Also if your group can handle AOE in the fortress, then it's a heaven for xp.
If you've made it to level 100, then you already farmed a level that required over 6.5T XP, what's the problem? Just be a good client, buy boosts.
NTY, I stopped throwing money at this game a long time ago, I do enjoy coming here though just to laugh at everyone while I look into my wallet.
Some fast tests ferine.
All boosts on.
Conan on titan for solo tests.
Solo loc 2 pits = 4.2 % per hour in 99
Solo loc 2 pts =1.9 % per hour in 100
solo dm = 2.8% per hour in 99
solo dm = 1.3-1.4% per hour in 100
group dm 30 stage = 1.6% per hour in 100
aoe in the fortress =2% per hour in 100 (proper grp)
Some fast tests ferine.
All boosts on.
Conan on titan for solo tests.
Solo loc 2 pits = 4.2 % per hour in 99
Solo loc 2 pts =1.9 % per hour in 100
solo dm = 2.8% per hour in 99
solo dm = 1.3-1.4% per hour in 100
group dm 30 stage = 1.6% per hour in 100
aoe in the fortress =2% per hour in 100 (proper grp)
Greetings Conan
That's awesome, thanks Conan. Are these results with 2 toons in the same party after update, or are you comparing pre-update to post update (we have +50% base XP on at the moment)?
Either way it shows that 100-101 is just over double 99-100 in our version.
tests are with solo tyr on dm not duo. 1 good option is active iss out of party debuffing.second option is duo with iss debuffing and clean second room also before port out .
If want my opinion i think 100-101 is x2.5 - x 3 to do 99-100 .
Also with a fast count if you dont get 7 days rune 200% or 1 month 100% and play with 1 hours runes. its 700 coin per 1-2% per hour in 100 lvl else is 320 + coins per hour (WTF???).
I think whoever keep playing that game will make ncsoft earn millions $$ just for 1 lvl ! (100-101)
NCSOFT FIX THIS ! MAKE 100-101 AT LEAST X1.5 GOING 99-100 NOT X2.5
tests are with solo tyr on dm not duo. 1 good option is active iss out of party debuffing.second option is duo with iss debuffing and clean second room also before port out .
If want my opinion i think 100-101 is x2.5 - x 3 to do 99-100 .
Also with a fast count if you dont get 7 days rune 200% or 1 month 100% and play with 1 hours runes. its 700 coin per 1-2% per hour in 100 lvl else is 320 + coins per hour (WTF???).
I think whoever keep playing that game will make ncsoft earn millions $$ just for 1 lvl ! (100-101)
NCSOFT FIX THIS ! MAKE 100-101 AT LEAST X1.5 GOING 99-100 NOT X2.5
So did you make the lvl 99 XP tests after update or before?
We have 1.5x xp event on at the moment. If you were making 4.2%/hr at 1x xp on 99, but only 1.9%/hr at 1.5x XP on 100 that makes it over 12 Trillion XP from 100-101!
after update .
with fast calculations 100-101 its 8-9 trilion xp . :(
i will recheck today loc :) dont gang me :)
Hehe, don't worry, I'm in work. I'm mostly in grind mode at the moment now anyway, not sure whether to take summoner to 100 or work on 101 on healer. :P
it will be extremely expensive to level with boosts. I am glad to see conan uses proper parties, cause if you dont its even more expensive.
once the event over, I see many quitting.
but I dont care, sooner game end, sooner I go play another. definately wont be a Korean game again.
dont even want to think about lvl 102+
these new hunting zones suck for xp imo compared to loc. but maybe its just the parties I am in are weak.
I only get .5% an hr with vit/erupt/200% rune. so last 10 hrs of play got my 5.15% and cost me 50+ dollars. I need to get in conans proper party so I can save some money! 2%/hr vs .5% would save me thousands of dollars by lvl 103 :)
Why does GM never answer ppl questions?
Why don't you put exact patchnotes from korea in here, all you do is nerf skills and xp and drops and like everything. just wtf this is boring
The xp tables were changed when update went live. Then too many ppl comlpained and they adjusted it.
Now ppl complain again..... should not have complained in the 1st place.
Also remember that russian / european xp table never was same as in NA. It was easier there then here.
No, people complained because there was "no change below level 100" to the xp and everyone at 99 logged in with 4% missing, with many who were 99 and low % being deleveled to 98.
The XP gains at lower levels (some even gaining levels) most thought was ok.
What they need to do is adjust the XP table and not screw people over. You worked for the % you were at, keep it at that % and adjust the xp number accordingly.
The huge mess that is the 100-101 (An who knows how bad 101+ will be) is absolutely something that needs to be fixed.
I made a thread about the fact that they changed the exp tables to pre-patch tables, and they simply deleted my thread. Getting to 99 is supposed to be a lot easier, and right after the maintenance I noticed the difference. And of course right after the emergency maintenance it became as hard as before. All thanks to the crying people who lost their 4% on 99, now you will take forever to get to 100 or 101. I would have taken the 4% loss instead.
I made a thread about the fact that they changed the exp tables to pre-patch tables, and they simply deleted my thread. Getting to 99 is supposed to be a lot easier, and right after the maintenance I noticed the difference. And of course right after the emergency maintenance it became as hard as before. All thanks to the crying people who lost their 4% on 99, now you will take forever to get to 100 or 101. I would have taken the 4% loss instead.
Exactly my point, i lost the lvl but didn't care too much coz those extra % was easy to take again.
Exactly my point, i lost the lvl but didn't care too much coz those extra % was easy to take again.
Im not going to bother to grind non stop to level up, unless they change it back to the way its supposed to be in the new update. I'll just be another person that quits. (And stops buying nc coins)
I made a thread about the fact that they changed the exp tables to pre-patch tables, and they simply deleted my thread. Getting to 99 is supposed to be a lot easier, and right after the maintenance I noticed the difference. And of course right after the emergency maintenance it became as hard as before. All thanks to the crying people who lost their 4% on 99, now you will take forever to get to 100 or 101. I would have taken the 4% loss instead.
Uhm, Whatever xp table they had when people lost 4% was actually harder to hit 99. The reason people lost the 4% is because their XP amount stayed the same, but the requirement to get to 100% would've increased, so they were 4% away from the new requirement.
They actually just reverted it back to what it was originally, easier to 99.
Uhm, Whatever xp table they had when people lost 4% was actually harder to hit 99. The reason people lost the 4% is because their XP amount stayed the same, but the requirement to get to 100% would've increased, so they were 4% away from the new requirement.
They actually just reverted it back to what it was originally, easier to 99.
No, it is much easier with the new exp tables to go from 85-99, get your facts straight.
No, it is much easier with the new exp tables to go from 85-99, get your facts straight.
What are you on about? 1-99 isn't any different from how it used to be, otherwise my pre-99 toons would've gained %%.
On the xp tables where people lost 4% it was definitely eaiser to xp 1-96+ as my lowbies gained XP. 99-100 was defnitely harder though since people including myself lost 4%.
The amount of XP on our toons has never changed, just the requirements that define what level we are, for a brief period before it was patched.
The amount of XP on our toons has never changed, just the requirements that define what level we are, for a brief period before it was patched.
actually if they changed the requirements of levels, they would have to correct the character xp either up or down so the % would stay the same.
that is what I think happened.
they moved the bars for some levels throught the xp amount and forgot to adjust the xp so that nobody would have any change on their % "progress".
When they changed the XP curves before GoD, all people kept the same level and %. This means they needed to adjust the amount of XP a char had in order to mantain the char level and %.
From a business perspective, it's brilliant. Shameless, but brilliant.
Where do u see brilliance here ? I bought 200% rune and i was about to buy more . But when i realised that i need ~20x 200% runes considering 20x50$ . No thx im gonna just pass this oportunity and wont buy anymore . My opinion every self respecting person will do the same. And thats majority of ppl. So instead selling runes 2-3 per account they will sell 1% of that.
I would carefully think about this tweak if it be me in NCwest place.
What are you on about? 1-99 isn't any different from how it used to be, otherwise my pre-99 toons would've gained %%.
On the xp tables where people lost 4% it was definitely eaiser to xp 1-96+ as my lowbies gained XP. 99-100 was defnitely harder though since people including myself lost 4%.
The amount of XP on our toons has never changed, just the requirements that define what level we are, for a brief period before it was patched.
I did gain xp on all my toons. And afterwards lost it.
What is the big deal of trying to get to 101 so fast? take your time
People are idiots, don't mind them.
If you can go 100-101 with 50 hours of xp people are just crying and ungrateful. Mind you that's with full runes, costs a few hundred dollars but here's a hint.
YOU DON'T NEED TO BUY THE RUNES.
This is a Korean grind fest, it used to be that way and I actually don't have a problem with them going back to that style. It will root out the people who like to complain or cant advance their pve parties and maximize their xp. It gives reasons for people to be out ganking as well, which is a very old concept, many of which here have no probably no clue about.
I have spoken with the dev team about the XP table for our version and other F2P territories (based on the table from the link another player provided). The main difference is the distribution for XP needed for levels 100 to 102, which comes out to roughly 37 trillion regardless of territory. In the end, the amount of XP needed is the same. I hope this clears up the confusion.
NCWest:
Level 100 to 101: 10 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 26 Trillion
Other F2P Territories:
Level 100 to 101: 2 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 35 Trillion
Well, but 101 lvl is important because of new skill which you get. So I think most of the people will prefer 2 trillion and then 35 trillion. But it is just my opinion.
Where do u see brilliance here ? I bought 200% rune and i was about to buy more . But when i realised that i need ~20x 200% runes considering 20x50$ . No thx im gonna just pass this oportunity and wont buy anymore . My opinion every self respecting person will do the same. And thats majority of ppl. So instead selling runes 2-3 per account they will sell 1% of that.
I would carefully think about this tweak if it be me in NCwest place.
What crawled up your skirt? There will always be a market for runes, from hardcore players that have a hard-on for being ahead and fear from getting left behind. I will not pretend I know how many. And besides, you post as if runes are a standard for gaining xp.
Potential loss of revenue? There's no need to earn more if one earns enough, as long as it meets the demands of the main office.
I have spoken with the dev team about the XP table for our version and other F2P territories (based on the table from the link another player provided). The main difference is the distribution for XP needed for levels 100 to 102, which comes out to roughly 37 trillion regardless of territory. In the end, the amount of XP needed is the same. I hope this clears up the confusion.
NCWest:
Level 100 to 101: 10 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 26 Trillion
Other F2P Territories:
Level 100 to 101: 2 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 35 Trillion
Thanks for the confirmation Juji.
In some ways it's a better xp curve since people won't just go to 101 quickly then quit since 102 would be sooooooooooo long..
However I'm not 19 nor in school anymore, so don't fancy a 1000 hour grind for 1 level.
Solo on full boost items I can do 0.7%/hr, that's about 9x base XP due to event. That's 142 hours at ~$10/hr, $1420, or 3 Apple watches. Without boosts or event it'd be 1285 hours...
Decision time I guess, I can still level my summoner at a bearable rate though.
I have spoken with the dev team about the XP table for our version and other F2P territories (based on the table from the link another player provided). The main difference is the distribution for XP needed for levels 100 to 102, which comes out to roughly 37 trillion regardless of territory. In the end, the amount of XP needed is the same. I hope this clears up the confusion.
NCWest:
Level 100 to 101: 10 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 26 Trillion
Other F2P Territories:
Level 100 to 101: 2 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 35 Trillion
So what exactly makes us deserve this special "grind" version?
Most people only want to get to 101 for the new skills, but with the 5X regular xp required it will take many many months or cost 1000s of dollars in xp items.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm done buying xp items because it just doesn't make sense anymore. It's impossible to justify spending 100 dollars a month on progress that is barely visible.
100-101 being harder makes sense. If it were easy people would just do it and quit at 101, harder may mean more people attempt it.
The main problem I see is that:
A) XP Boosts cost a LOT of money.
B) 101 makes a huge diff for skills, especially buffs.
I remember when there was a huge grind for level 80. A large percentage of players turned to botting for XP, many people quit before making 80. They eased on the requirements and people came back.
100-101 being harder makes sense. If it were easy people would just do it and quit at 101, harder may mean more people attempt it.
The main problem I see is that:
A) XP Boosts cost a LOT of money.
B) 101 makes a huge diff for skills, especially buffs.
I remember when there was a huge grind for level 80. A large percentage of players turned to botting for XP, many people quit before making 80. They eased on the requirements and people came back.
It's still a slap in the face when it's much easier literally everywhere but here.
Everyone was looking at it and it's basically, "Oh hey, 100 was a pain, but we're giving you a break to 101 and some nice skills, then dig in for 102+".
And then we get it and get shafted. 100 was already a very far goal for many. 101 is just going to be a pipe dream, let alone beyond it.
It's still a slap in the face when it's much easier literally everywhere but here.
Everyone was looking at it and it's basically, "Oh hey, 100 was a pain, but we're giving you a break to 101 and some nice skills, then dig in for 102+".
And then we get it and get shafted. 100 was already a very far goal for many. 101 is just going to be a pipe dream, let alone beyond it.
Yeah. But I know many people wanted the quick ding to 101 and would've just got fed up and quit going for 102. Maybe they'll get fed up and quit earlier for 101 now?
One of the main problems is the gap between those who can xp fast and those who can't. It's always been there, but even more now with all the runes you can buy.
I can make 3-3.5%xp, 400m SP/hr solo at 99 with these rates, most people make 1%/hr max. Others can make even more.
At max XP 100-101 will be hard, but not terrible, at reasonable xp 100-101 will be terrible, with standard gear and only a 100% rune (destiny pack) 100-101 will be a nightmare.
Yeah. But I know many people wanted the quick ding to 101 and would've just got fed up and quit going for 102. Maybe they'll get fed up and quit earlier for 101 now?
One of the main problems is the gap between those who can xp fast and those who can't. It's always been there, but even more now with all the runes you can buy.
I can make 3-3.5%xp, 400m SP/hr solo at 99 with these rates, most people make 1%/hr max. Others can make even more.
At max XP 100-101 will be hard, but not terrible, at reasonable xp 100-101 will be terrible, with standard gear and only a 100% rune (destiny pack) 100-101 will be a nightmare.
No doubt. But 101 was achievable. It's like being rewarded after hitting 100. And those 101 skills are tempting. Many people I knew were basically gearing up to get to 101, get the skills, put a bit in, and then work on their dual/alts up to 101.
102+ was basically the "well, when I get the rest done I'll start working on that".
Very few I talked to thought 105 was going to ever be reached by them. It was basically going to be the no lifers and bots to do that.
But now a lot are basically wondering what's the point? Even if they are 99 now, or were going to push for it. It's just never going to get better. Why spend money when you won't even get anywhere important without spending hundreds of dollars worth of ncoin to get there?
Some still will, absolutely. But I've seen a lot more people frustrated by this, especially since it's JUST us, than I've seen say "well, at least 102 is a bit easier".
No doubt. But 101 was achievable. It's like being rewarded after hitting 100. And those 101 skills are tempting. Many people I knew were basically gearing up to get to 101, get the skills, put a bit in, and then work on their dual/alts up to 101.
102+ was basically the "well, when I get the rest done I'll start working on that".
Very few I talked to thought 105 was going to ever be reached by them. It was basically going to be the no lifers and bots to do that.
But now a lot are basically wondering what's the point? Even if they are 99 now, or were going to push for it. It's just never going to get better. Why spend money when you won't even get anywhere important without spending hundreds of dollars worth of ncoin to get there?
Some still will, absolutely. But I've seen a lot more people frustrated by this, especially since it's JUST us, than I've seen say "well, at least 102 is a bit easier".
I must admit, I was planning 101 on main, 101 on dual then 101 on ISS box and maybe Feoh box.... now I'm just doing 100 on dual then maybe main to 101, boxes can stay there.
I have spoken with the dev team about the XP table for our version and other F2P territories (based on the table from the link another player provided). The main difference is the distribution for XP needed for levels 100 to 102, which comes out to roughly 37 trillion regardless of territory. In the end, the amount of XP needed is the same. I hope this clears up the confusion.
NCWest:
Level 100 to 101: 10 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 26 Trillion
Other F2P Territories:
Level 100 to 101: 2 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 35 Trillion
Ok this now officially sucks if I was to last 3 months to get to 101 now its going to be 1 year and 3 months !!! I had given up on 102 already, I though to myself 101 to be achievable in a rational amount of time but now you tell us everyone else get to get 101 and new skills will be 5 times what was supposed to be, and is already for the rest of lineage servers/players ? Are you trying to kill your own company and make them move to In Nova?
So you dont get 101 most people wont get there also. You can enjoy the game just being 100 and slowly getting xp.
And using a lot of runes to get it fast is stupid because people like me who use very little will catch to you sooner or later anyway when you get stuck at 101.
So you dont get 101 most people wont get there also. You can enjoy the game just being 100 and slowly getting xp.
And using a lot of runes to get it fast is stupid because people like me who use very little will catch to you sooner or later anyway when you get stuck at 101.
Problem is those people going fast will hit 101, get an advantage, hit 102/103/104 etc before others who have less time/money.
It basically just stacks more advantages on those who already have quite a few. Others will catch up sure, but it will be a long time after they have already established themselves (raids, oly, etc).
That was too much...
As soon as it was confirmed that one need 10trillion xp to hit 101 instead of 2,2 trillion i was certain what has to be done...
Canceled my sheduled payments and wont buy any further ncoins.
Checked my Billing Summary which showed me that i payed around 850$ during the last 180 days. You wont be seeing that kind of money in the next 180 days!
Oh and because ppl were comparing this grind style to back in the days around lvl 80...
All i can say is that you guys might be right about the fact that the xping also took as long as noways.
BUT you didnt have to spend 10 usd an hour to gain the same amount of xp as back then. One only had to pay the monthly fee of 12 usd for the account...
lots of people who spend cash want some sort of goal/instant gratification. lets see if 10trillion to lvl 101 gets ncwest the $$$.
based off my friends who many spend alot arent going to spend as much based off of this table of xp.
thanks for making it published.
Man, so many people are disillusioned into the thought that they are entitled to instant gratification. Seeing you're at 25% of a major level after 5 or 6 days isn't instant gratification? That's a cake walk people =/
Again, I cant stress the fact that 101 is where I imagine most NA players will peak, and a few players getting their ahead of you doesn't change anything in the bigger picture. Stop wasting so much time on these forums and go figure out how to maximize your xp so that you can cut down on runes. I imagine i'll make 101 with less than 200 dollars spent. I'll keep a running tally for anyone interested :D
Old days were hell, especially as a Dominator which often only got pity parties unless the perfect group was available. 79-80 took me 2 years, by then they'd nerfed hell out of clan invincibility.
If 100-101 could be done in 100 hours with only a destiny pack and the occasional vit pot it wouldn't be too bad, making it too fast would suck.
I couldn't be bothered with 0.3%/hr in a good group again though. I'm not in college anymore, I have a family and even when I didn't it was just plain horrible.
Remember there's still 102+ to hit, pvp, oly, quests, raids and losing time making parties and being ganked. That 0.3%/hr ends up as 2%/week playing 4+h every day.
Old days were hell, especially as a Dominator which often only got pity parties unless the perfect group was available. 79-80 took me 2 years, (..)
it took you 2 years because you where drunk and crashed your gear and quit for 1,5years ^^ ... and if i remember correct your clan gave you a zariche and the protection to level up fast with it.
it took you 2 years because you where drunk and crashed your gear and quit for 1,5years ^^ ... and if i remember correct your clan gave you a zariche and the protection to level up fast with it.
Haha, I was 73 when I blew up all my gear and quit. That was another time of XP hell, making 0.3%/hr in blazing swamp solo.
After I came back at 75 or 76 I began chasing the Zariche like mad and got from 75-78 in just a few rounds with it, with protection from clan and other sources I was very grateful of.
Come 79 I got to like 50% after months of mixes parties/solo then we all moved to bartz. None of the geared players were bothered about helping anyone level and we were just constantly ganked. I tried to go at it solo but it sucked so I quit again for another year or so. :P
You can make 0.4 to 0.7 trillion xp PER HOUR in the new hunting zones if you use full items with a strong party. Even soloing in EV with just a 100% rune and vit maint you can make 30-35 billion / hour soloing on an enchanter.
No more QQ. If you want the grind to go quickly then buy the items, otherwise remember what game you are playing.
You can make 0.4 to 0.7 trillion xp PER HOUR in the new hunting zones if you use full items with a strong party. Even soloing in EV with just a 100% rune and vit maint you can make 30-35 billion / hour soloing on an enchanter.
No more QQ. If you want the grind to go quickly then buy the items, otherwise remember what game you are playing.
Nah man, 101 is hard and we should ragequit until ncsofts reverses it !
What kind of gear do you need to do that? :confused:
You would need to kill 4 monsters per minute to achieve that amount of exp with vitality and 100% rune.
Sounds unlikely any normal iss could do that.
But yeah of course, if you use high enchanted PVE weapon with full STR dyes it could be possible, but the way he says it sounds like anyone can do it..
I kill 6~7 per minute there on my yul with hero bow.
You would need to kill 4 monsters per minute to achieve that amount of exp with vitality and 100% rune.
Sounds unlikely any normal iss could do that.
But yeah of course, if you use high enchanted PVE weapon with full STR dyes it could be possible, but the way he says it sounds like anyone can do it..
I kill 6~7 per minute there on my yul with hero bow.
RIght, "normal" 99 lvl enchanters with +4 gear cant solo EV at all , they ll run out of mp after a few mobs....
I like this version, having to get so much xp will make it easier to find and ban the bots! Good Job ncsoft I love the xp tables . GO Go mister bot and get the banhammer you deserve. :)
I have spoken with the dev team about the XP table for our version and other F2P territories (based on the table from the link another player provided). The main difference is the distribution for XP needed for levels 100 to 102, which comes out to roughly 37 trillion regardless of territory. In the end, the amount of XP needed is the same. I hope this clears up the confusion.
NCWest:
Level 100 to 101: 10 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 26 Trillion
Other F2P Territories:
Level 100 to 101: 2 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 35 Trillion
The amount of XP might be the same, but the time needed is now quite different as NA has to spend 5 times as long as a level 100 which could change cons and quest availability. This also screws up PvP as it now takes way longer for people to catch up to those who hit level 101 first and it takes 5 times as long to get those level 101 skills and skill upgrades.
Also, stop bloody making new spells use consumables. This is completely stupid as it now makes those new spells pointless as we can no longer use them if we aren't rich, especially considering how little adena drops from mobs. There is absolutely no point or value in making spells cost adena to use and this doesn't make sense from a story perspective either. I think bad Korean devs are the only ones who failed to get the memo that requiring consumables to use a spells is completely stupid. Everyone else has moved away from this.
From a business perspective, it's brilliant. Shameless, but brilliant.
actually it is the opposite. Driving customers away, making them angry and resentful? Very poor business and as you can see that is why NCSOFT is performing so poorly as a company.
Make people feel good about spending money and they keep coming back, do opposite and they just leave.
Alot of the stuff in this game is badly overpriced so people dont buy. Like vitality go so fast at high levels I am not going to pay for a vitality pot that last 1 hour for 1 dollar. Now if it lasted 8 hours for 1 dollar of vitality, I would buy it to ensure i have vitality everytime i played.
So NCsoft right now get 0 money from me, as opposed to constant revenue from me.
I would subrcribe 9.99 a month for perma vitality.
He means the other 99% of the player base. You can't hit 101 in a week without massively stacked toons and $$$.
Id say over 30% of the playerbase is in an endgame clan capable of getting good xp. Of course you probably wont be getting it in a week, but get out of here with the idea that xping to 101 is going to take people years.
Id say over 30% of the playerbase is in an endgame clan capable of getting good xp. Of course you probably wont be getting it in a week, but get out of here with the idea that xping to 101 is going to take people years.
I think you might be a bit fooled by the people you surround yourself with. A more likely figure is 5% of the playerbase, or maybe 30% of the players of the top pvp clans.
Most people (non top pvp clans) aren't even 50% into their 99 yet and the average AP is probably 10 or less.
For a laugh go try xp with regular +4 armor, a +4-6 r99 weapon 1sa, only 1-2 lower epics, desire, +3 brooch jewels. That's the average gear. Good luck doing fortress or even dim warp with that.
I think you might be a bit fooled by the people you surround yourself with. A more likely figure is 5% of the playerbase, or maybe 30% of the players of the top pvp clans.
Most people (non top pvp clans) aren't even 50% into their 99 yet and the average AP is probably 10 or less.
For a laugh go try xp with regular +4 armor, a +4-6 r99 weapon 1sa, only 1-2 lower epics, desire, +3 brooch jewels. That's the average gear. Good luck doing fortress or even dim warp with that.
You think only 5% of the playerbase is capable of getting good xp? I think you're confusing me saying good with the best xp. Mediocre(Better word?) xp would still get people to 101 in less than two years.
Just for your information btw, I play with gear equivalent to what you stated, worse if you count weapons :D
Yes jarpo ppl hit 101 but feohs... Ppl who made mobs are really braindead beacuse my full geared pt can't handle group on new loc, beacuse we have yuls/otherls, ofc fat evey can hit 101 with 20 feohs arround kkkkkk here is no spot for fast XP warriors
Im fine with the grind had to grind from 2004 to hit all my lvls I am lvl 100 and dual class is needing 45% to hit lvl100. Ncsoft just need to make checks that the bots are not doing it 24/7 which would ofc not make it fair to the ones that actually do the grind.
with a 200% rune 1% xp an hour is quite easily achievable for average groups.
1% an hour really isnt that bad, really we are already spoiled with fast xp rates nowadays.
I have spoken with the dev team about the XP table for our version and other F2P territories (based on the table from the link another player provided). The main difference is the distribution for XP needed for levels 100 to 102, which comes out to roughly 37 trillion regardless of territory. In the end, the amount of XP needed is the same. I hope this clears up the confusion.
NCWest:
Level 100 to 101: 10 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 26 Trillion
Other F2P Territories:
Level 100 to 101: 2 Trillion
Level 101 to 102: 35 Trillion
why you have to change only the game in NA? was sux.
the problem is that this way everyone who has a life outside of the game or do not have much money to buy a lot of xp boost will not get lvl 101 never really this game is 100% commercial as many say.