I am here to ask help trying to figure out what is happening after Infinite Odyssey update.
Before this update it was possible for a Tank to beat a Tyr in combat, mainly in Oly. Now, the only option is to hit and run.
My brother has a Knight level 99 with 16 AP and set full Dark. Weapon Dark +15. He plays Oly since 2009 and is very skilled. He got Hero few times in the past. I was watching his matches, he can win Oly matches only hitting and running until the time is over.
It is not possible to face 1x1 anymore. Mainly because Tyrs now can active Berserker and Boost few times in Oly.
His APs are configured to increase Pdef and HP and he has full Epic jewels.
The general rule, from ages ago, was Tank > Dagger > Warrior > Tank.
The problem tanks have against warriors, is that warriors have enough HP to not die quickly, while the warriors themselves have very decent damage.
Say, if said tank fought a dagger, the tank would have abit of a chance because of the much lower HP.
There also the versatility of warriors via their totems which makes them one of the most all rounded class in the game. They can tank (a little), deal out decent damage, run fast (to catch or escape) and have AoEs & single target skills. They don't excel in any one aspect, but do do very well in most situations.
Comparable gear/ability, tank has no chance. Only way tank wins is if they are in a favorable map, interrupt Tyrr zerk/barrier, only attack under UD and kite for rest of the match. Even then there is no guarantee they will win. Any decent Tyrr will literally kill a tank in oly (ie. not win on damage but actually kill them).
Tank is broken. No damage, less pdef than tyr. Since Valliance useless class imo. In pve it can have some place but in pvp now no use at all. Hates land less than ever (i have them +10 chance and dual class skill that increase physical atack landing rate) Since IO other classes that were no problem in oly give you hard time, even kill you if you do not play very well (and have good gear).
. Guild wars 2 seems better game in class balance and pvp, gameplay, etc.. OTher year will be out crowfall a very interesting option for pvp gamers. If you have a main tank and have invest on it time and money my advice change game. YOu will finde that there are better options that this crap. This is not the first neither the last time this ****ing developers do this. besides they do not correct this till other big update comes out and the they can screw things even more. Game support is crap in other games they fix **** like this on the go, do not wait "big updates". And they earn a lot of money with this and invest none. **** you l2
in an equal geared tank/tyr fight the tank will only win if he has active & passive reflect augment
those 2 augments are vital for a tank that's serious about Oly/CoC and PVP in general
Sure and return 15% of the dmg you take. Any decent Tyrr has Longing, CoC belt or RA, 7s, Aug, tauti ring.....gl reflecting lol.
From personal experience if you are on the same gear, the tank has no chance. He literally gets killed or lose by high dmg margin.
maybe on your server but on Naia not many Tyr's actually have all of that, the serious hero candidates sure but besides that I doubt there's more then 5 other Tyrs running around with AND a COC belt AND tauti AND 7s Tali AND +7 Shiny shirt etc etc.
btw pending on a tanks build and proper skill usage hw can still over come all off that but ok fair enough such tanks are maybe even more rare then Tyr's with the gear you mention :P
also it's much easier for a Tyr to get 101+ then it is for a tank but I do wonder how fights go when both are 101+ as Tanks get a decent boost, even more so at lvl 102 with their next passive skills learn level but that's a long way to go for like 99.9% of all tank players ^^"
maybe on your server but on Naia not many Tyr's actually have all of that, the serious hero candidates sure but besides that I doubt there's more then 5 other Tyrs running around with AND a COC belt AND tauti AND 7s Tali AND +7 Shiny shirt etc etc.
btw pending on a tanks build and proper skill usage hw can still over come all off that but ok fair enough such tanks are maybe even more rare then Tyr's with the gear you mention :P
also it's much easier for a Tyr to get 101+ then it is for a tank but I do wonder how fights go when both are 101+ as Tanks get a decent boost, even more so at lvl 102 with their next passive skills learn level but that's a long way to go for like 99.9% of all tank players ^^"
Meh, on Shilen there are exactly 2-3 such Tyrrs, thre rest are just avg.
It's true also that with some proper timing and a bit of luck the tank can minimize the dmg he takes, but nowdays a tyrr can use berserk at least twice and boost 3x in a single match, which limits the tank's ability to drag, mesmerize and so on, which is one of his main advantages.
After 101 the gap becomes even bigger, since the old auras doesn't stack with the new ones, so the effect is kind of partial at best.
On the other hand you have the new skills of the Tyrr that stack with everything and some of them (Glad, GK, Titan) are really OP (hey archers!).Specially the Duelist becomes a real monster.
i think tyr always had some advantage against sigel(more attack, more def, more skill power, more speed)..
maybe reflect and immunity to debuffs were an issue, but u can see that things on your target
and since god update tyrs got much more improvements than tanks
i can win against tyrs who have gear similar to mine, but i dont have any high end game gear, but i have 2 reflects and lv3 topaz and even with that i just can kill them if they hit me a lot w/o watching my buffs.
i can win against tyrs who have better gear than me too, but i need to run a LOT and just attack when they got paralyzed, and sometimes it takes just 1 knockback to lose the advantage or simply die...
and yeah i agree that the gap will be even bigger on 101.