I know enchanting is bad for adena making...and I've said so...in my previous post telling newbies to stay away from enchanting....
But I AM BORED!
and I happen to have some extra adena that I don't really need...
especially now that I have all the gears I wanted for my level..at least for now.
Just wanna ask everyone.
What will be the best and smartest way for enchant success in L2?
I see stuff like +12 blessed R95 weapon, +17 dark R99 bow(chronos),
+8 blessed twilight set, +8 seraph set, + 8 dark eternal set...etc.
and I've been wondering how people do it!
How do you make them?
Any smart way of making this happen?
Should I just enchant them straight up cuz they are all just random chance?
or any secret method people use?
I heard stuff like pyramid which I've used myself before but I'd
like to know what other people are doing...
Let's start with...Blessed +12 specter weapon...
What will be the best way to get this?
Pray?
Go to the highest mountain in Aden World?
Make shots with warsmiths....until i get 'Lucky Lady smiles on YOU' buff
then enchant?
Get D-grade weapon + EWDs and use them as sacrifice?
Enchanting in L2 is not random but has a pattern....
it's not Success-Fail-Success-Fail..
they are more like FFF-S-FFFFF-S-FF-S-FFF-S
so i enchant Ds and wait for 3-4 consecutive fails and just when
I get 1 x Success, I do my R95 enchant right away?
Or is enchanting time based?
like... if I do it at a certain exact time of the day or clock...I get Success?
Just wanna ask some wise people who make high enchants all the time...
Alright today im in good mood so i share something with you. but keep that in secret :D !
Rules of enchanting:
1. Maphr +7 shirt is a must. u need get that one 1st.
2. any gear OE starts at +2 with Giants scroll. Its simple as that to understand u can get straight +5 item right ? :) Well if it poped to +3 +4 use 1 or 2 blessed enchant scrolls. so it goes +5 or it goes back to start where you take +2 and use again Giants scroll.
3. +5 and more .Well this rule depends on your $ amount in ur wallet :) . Basically you can just take giant stone +10% success rate and pop again normal giants scroll. Yah it can crystal item (but u want +8 do u ? ) :D. If item is dark you need to use blessed giant stones for sure . They are bit expensive thou.
4. To Oe you need have ballz and you need to clearly understand that you might lose your money or you might win some nice amount of money.
5. You need create dorf and pop up as much luck stats as you can.
6. when u craft shots count how many times u click it before lucky lady pops up . So what u do is pop shots and predict the moment when it has to pop . :) it basically goes between 10¬20 clicks.
7. Also there is account. Have no idea why but some accounts have high rates of success some have bad rates. you need to find one good rates dorfy . How to do that ? many months of tests is only way to figure. so peoples who enchant gears makin money of it ).
8. And yah everytime before you press enchant scrolls Pray . Gl in enchanting.
Alright today im in good mood so i share something with you. but keep that in secret :D !
Rules of enchanting:
1. Maphr +7 shirt is a must. u need get that one 1st.
2. any gear OE starts at +2 with Giants scroll. Its simple as that to understand u can get straight +5 item right ? :) Well if it poped to +3 +4 use 1 or 2 blessed enchant scrolls. so it goes +5 or it goes back to start where you take +2 and use again Giants scroll.
3. +5 and more .Well this rule depends on your $ amount in ur wallet :) . Basically you can just take giant stone +10% success rate and pop again normal giants scroll. Yah it can crystal item (but u want +8 do u ? ) :D. If item is dark you need to use blessed giant stones for sure . They are bit expensive thou.
4. To Oe you need have ballz and you need to clearly understand that you might lose your money or you might win some nice amount of money.
5. You need create dorf and pop up as much luck stats as you can.
6. when u craft shots count how many times u click it before lucky lady pops up . So what u do is pop shots and predict the moment when it has to pop . :) it basically goes between 10¬20 clicks.
7. Also there is account. Have no idea why but some accounts have high rates of success some have bad rates. you need to find one good rates dorfy . How to do that ? many months of tests is only way to figure. so peoples who enchant gears makin money of it ).
8. And yah everytime before you press enchant scrolls Pray . Gl in enchanting.
Some of this I agree with, some I don't.
Let's start with Maphr's shirt; I have one and it really isn't that great. An official test has never been performed on how a Maphr's works but from my own test I believe it increases BASE enchant success rate by 10% and does NOT increase the OVERALL enchant success rate by 10%.
R Grade armor has set enchant success rates that diminishes as enchant value increases (this has been confirmed with official test from ****** GM's and Juji).
For example, going from +5 - +6 has a 25% success rate (some info says 27% but w/e). A Maphr's shirt DOES NOT increase the success rate to 35%, it only raises the base rate of 25% by 10% (25% + 2.5% = 27.5%). So, Maphr's has diminishing returns. On the other hand, it seems as though Lucky Enchant Stones actually add a flat % increase. So using a High Grade Stone on a +5 armor piece would increase the success rate to 55% (25% base + 30% Stone).
I have made 5 +8 Immortal Sets, 2 +8 TW Sets, 1 +8 r95 set, 1 +7 r99 set, and 1 +9 Immortal Set. I always use lucky stones and even though I never kept exact records, my own experience bares this out (enchanting before and after having Maphr's showed no noticeable difference).
On Immortal/TW I used regular stones (not blessed) as these are abundant from events and Immo/TW is cheap so it's not a big deal if you blow it up. I usually buy 10-12 of an armor piece and go down the line. When I made a +8 r95 set I used bless stones but now I would probably use regular ones if I made another because of how cheap r95 has gotten.
Use Giants at +2 AND +3 if you are enchanting high volumes (+3 - +4 has a high success rate and you could go straight to +6). If you are doing r99 then just use giants at +2 and bless after that with stones.
Weapons are a different beast altogether. I suppose with how cheap r/r95 has gotten you could probably enchant weapons in volume but it is still expensive. For r+ weapons (really only r99 as anything else is a waste) you can usually get to +7/+8 using BEWR and Bless stones but after that you have to use Divine/Destruction scrolls to get really high items. The adena amounts just become too restrictive trying to use BEWR and Stones to go above +8 (Failing a +8 weap is at a MINIMUM a loss of roughly 1 bil in BEWR/Stones).
If you just want to have fun and make really high stuff enchant S grade items with stones from mentee coins. S grade has a higher base success rate :).
D-S weapons have the same success rate
R weapons and armor are way different with different success tables depending on enchant
The belief that blowing a low grade weapon and hope for a success in the targeted weapon/armor is complete BS.
The belief that reloging every time you succed an enchant to keep it as a next successful is complete BS.
The belief that closing the OE box every time you do an enchant to "reset" the weapon OE rate is complete BS.
The belief that doing OE in a church to help OE is complete BS. (lol)
The belief that failing 2-3 times in a row will secure a succesfull enchant in the targeted weapon is complete BS.
There is no "buff" from lady luck after creating anything and that legends appear, it only applies in that certain craft you made to make it appear.
Maphyrs shirt does increase obviously in the targeted NATURAL or BASE success rate, f.e. R melee weapon is 50% so 10% goes to 55% not 60%. same thing as with weapon stones.
S grade though, has 66.6% rate, with 10% mentee coin its 73.25% + Maphyrs another 6.66% added to a total of 79.90% or 80% which is good.
The lower the grade of the item, the better success rate mentee stone is.
ALL the high +++ R grade weapons you see around are not made any day, events like the old destruction scroll from L2 store, or Red save cards or even the +2-+4 giant stone helps a ton, which IMO are the only way to get high R grade weapons, you will blow all your adena using the blessed stones going 1 enchant at a time and hoping you dont ruin it.
No one has talked about LUC stat, but having +20 LUC increases the OE success rate about 5% (Overall % afaik, not dependant of base or natural success rate) Which in the end, enchanting S grade would be close to 85% which is absolutely Worth the risk.
And if shadow weapons have the same success rate as normal R grade, going from 4-6 is piece of cake, after that, 7 and above hell is unleashed, around 25% rate if not lower from my own experience OEing around 400 shadow weapons. (Though all shadow weapons, melee/mage ones have the same rate, normally R mage weapons have way less rate than melee R)
you just broke my plans to get rich :)
ontopic alien nano supliments can help you with 6 luck, you can add luck on the dimension bracelet, i see we got hats with luck also
gl enchanting
and everytime u OE a armor chance decrease.
+3 to +4 will be easyier than 4 to 5 and 5 to 6 etc etc
if u had luck stone 30% and mahpr 40% from base rate, then u got high chance to get +6 easyily. then for +7 and +8 u'll have round 1/3 chance to succes
but all depend on ur luck tho, i made 3 part of my set from +6 to +8 without any fail and i failed like 15 Seraph BP before getting +8, so good luck :D
(rumors says that, in NA timezone u got more chance to succes!!)
the increase enchant chance ofcourse help but they dont tell u the lil math behind it that the chance is not +10 or +30% at all
top of that its just 50/50 all the time, did +10 > +15 few days ago failed 1 time rest kicked in.
many people made +12 weapons with heavenly scrolls or w/e which couldnt fail at all was just 100% OE to +12.
the increase enchant chance ofcourse help but they dont tell u the lil math behind it that the chance is not +10 or +30% at all
top of that its just 50/50 all the time, did +10 > +15 few days ago failed 1 time rest kicked in.
many people made +12 weapons with heavenly scrolls or w/e which couldnt fail at all was just 100% OE to +12.
Yah ... but mage weapons had +7 max what is rly sad :D . Hate NCsoft. :mad:
being smart and too carefully sometimes stopping you going forward :). Ability to risk is absolutely necessary for human being .
As someone said "who don't risk don't drink champagne" .
You can lose everything but you have to be strong enough to stand up and try it again . Other way gl in your life smart boy :).
correct but if people think 90% of server did it with bewr or whatever keep dreaming :p
dont think many people have hit +10 OE with just normal scrolls
either way people with +12 or above weapon used either DEWR or heavenly scrolls to not lose their weapons on failure and keep their enchant lvl(dewr)
Got my specter retri to +6 then used heavenly for +7. Got it to +9 using dewr's but has failed +10 3 times now. Stupid mage weapons. Where are ppl getting those dewr's now anyways.
Got my specter retri to +6 then used heavenly for +7. Got it to +9 using dewr's but has failed +10 3 times now. Stupid mage weapons. Where are ppl getting those dewr's now anyways.
i had some left never pump ur dewr into first weapon u have ;)
u know that ncsoft will always ram a update around corner sooner or later that makes ur weap useless. but ye pretty much made 1 bow from +8 > +14 back in the time with dewr ofcourse and few days ago +10 > +15.
still have dewr left but imo if i was you i wouldnt bother oe the r95 weap alot im not playing anymore and i dont really care what you do :p but when u get r99 weapon its far better.. one day you might get weapon PvE or PvP stone and your r95 retri would have felt like big waste of scrolls ;)
i had some left never pump ur dewr into first weapon u have ;)
u know that ncsoft will always ram a update around corner sooner or later that makes ur weap useless. but ye pretty much made 1 bow from +8 > +14 back in the time with dewr ofcourse and few days ago +10 > +15.
still have dewr left but imo if i was you i wouldnt bother oe the r95 weap alot im not playing anymore and i dont really care what you do :p but when u get r99 weapon its far better.. one day you might get weapon PvE or PvP stone and your r95 retri would have felt like big waste of scrolls ;)
Oh yea, I'd like a +12 dark amaranthine retri but can't afford it. It's a fairly nice weap for R95.. +9 blessed, 2 SAs, and Lv3 Clarity augment.
still have dewr left but imo if i was you i wouldnt bother oe the r95 weap alot im not playing anymore and i dont really care what you do :p but when u get r99 weapon its far better.. one day you might get weapon PvE or PvP stone and your r95 retri would have felt like big waste of scrolls ;)
Not really, the journey from 85-99 is long for a 2-3 hr daily player, so if he/she has a high OE even R grade weapon its worth the while, its not like all the 99s have spare 10B to buy a bloody or dark stone for their weapons PLUS starting a new weapon.
Not really, the journey from 85-99 is long for a 2-3 hr daily player, so if he/she has a high OE even R grade weapon its worth the while, its not like all the 99s have spare 10B to buy a bloody or dark stone for their weapons PLUS starting a new weapon.
Totally agree... just because it's R99 doesn't mean it's better unless you have maybe 20bil or so lying around to OE it, and make it dark/bloody. That's why even at lvl 100 I decided to stay with my +9 Spec Retri. With it being blessed, having 2 SAs and lv3 Clarity passive augment it's better than a lot of the R99's out there.
Got my specter retri to +6 then used heavenly for +7. Got it to +9 using dewr's but has failed +10 3 times now. Stupid mage weapons. Where are ppl getting those dewr's now anyways.
1. why would u need clarity this update ? oO i think there is no need for mp savings anymore.
2. Pop up Dewr on r95 is rly rly rly bad idea. You wont go +15 anyway and +7 - 8 its not so expensive thou. So why would you waste 2-3 bil wtf lol.
1. why would u need clarity this update ? oO i think there is no need for mp savings anymore.
2. Pop up Dewr on r95 is rly rly rly bad idea. You wont go +15 anyway and +7 - 8 its not so expensive thou. So why would you waste 2-3 bil wtf lol.
Did I say I was going any further??? And you obviously don't know anything about mages regarding saving mp. Go away. I'm not in a good mood.
Did I say I was going any further??? And you obviously don't know anything about mages regarding saving mp. Go away. I'm not in a good mood.
3x Hero feoh here . I know about mp more than u think. :). And i can asure you enchanting with dewr 95 weapons is useless and having passives for mp is also useless.
If you runing out of mp at exping u don't spam btm good enough. If its hard to spam btm for you or u not able to enchant it then get lvl 3 aquamarine and stop overwight yourself .
I'm sory that you cant controll your mood )))))
However, I didn't get to enchant anything at all...
I've been so busy with other stuff in real life; so instead,
I ended up buying a KELBIM - enchanting, augmentation not possible.LOL!
I had to pay tens of billions for a KELBIM but I think I will save money
in the long run cuz I can't enchant it at all!
But in future, I shall use your knowledge and experience when I really
want to go for high enchants myself!