During next week’s maintenance, we will be making changes to how GameGuard works with the game. After the maintenance on September 2nd, GameGuard will be need to be installed and running in order to start the game. This is being done as part of our efforts to combat bots, hacks, and other illicit activities.
So far, we’ve been able to suspend and/or permanently close over 8,000 accounts engaged in illicit activities this week, and we are continuing to expand and improve our detection and prevention methods.
If you have any questions about this particular change, we will do our best to answer them. If you need a refresher on how to reinstall GameGuard, please see below:
If you’re currently only using the integrated Game Guard version, we recommend you start by deleting the Game Guard folder.
To do this:
First, locate your Lineage II directory. By default, Lineage II installs to [LocalDisk]:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II. Within the System folder, there is a subdirectory titled GameGuard. Delete the GameGuard folder and re-launch LineageII.exe. Let it re-download these files, and then launch the game.
If this does not resolve the issue and the error messages persist, you should verify that you have all firewall or Internet security software disabled. If you are able to connect with your firewall software disabled, then you will need to add exceptions to your firewall rules for the following files: LineageII.exe, L2.bin, GameGuard.Des and GameMon.Des.
These files are by default located in the following directories:
For 32-bit versions of Windows:
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\L2.bin
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard\GameMon.des
For 64-bit versions of Windows:
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\L2.bin
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard\GameMon.des
If after trying all of these adjustments the issue still occurs we recommend trying the following steps:
MSCONFIG
Game Guard errors can sometimes be caused by 3rd party programs interfering with the game client. If you’re experiencing crashing or freezing we recommend you try disabling all 3rd party programs to see if it has any effect on your issue. For instructions on how to do this please reference the KB article here.
Router Bypass
Sometimes Game Guard errors can be caused by the way your network is configured. If disabling the 3rd party programs and security software was unsuccessful, we recommend you attempt to bypass your router and connect directly to your modem as a temporary troubleshooting step in an effort to rule out potential router problems. To do so please reference our KB article here.
Open a Technical Support Request
If your issue still persists after trying all the suggested steps please submit a Technical Support Request. We recommend you run our Game Advisor application first and attach the results to your support help request. For help with how to do this, please reference the KB Article here. https://support.lineage2.com/hc/en-us/articles/204360949-Game-Guard-Errors
ok so after copy pasting and reading without italics, I got a question. Windows 10 you can't disable windows defender, last I heard microsoft considers gameguard malware since its too intrusive and causes issues outside of lineage... Is this gonna make Lineage unplayable / get alot banned for no reason?
A) All we got to do is delete GameGuard folder before we update next wednesday and it will do the rest itself or we have to download and install gameguard ourselves as a seperate program?
B) Is there any way that this new system affects the LEGALS in ANY way? like for example clicking too fast to enter CoC resulting in getting mixed up with bot user etc? are we safe or is it just a trial that will result in more problems than it will solve?
C) Is this fix gonna finaly protect us for more than a week?
Thanks in advance, looking for official answers and not other players' guesses.
I really hope that this work brings good results and that returns the drops as they were in the game because nowadays we do not drop anything, fortune and many other dgs are just abandoned so xp and horrible and there but drops, octavis you spend a long time to kill him and drop only rune stone, instina the same thing, but this game every day but horrible.
Sincerely expect that developers end up with these bots and return the drops we had previously impossible to collect because this adena on the server or drop something useful.
If you have any questions about this particular change, we will do our best to answer them.
Do you imply that GameGuard from now on will really be able to detect bots, scripts, etc.?
This sounds like a great news... probably too good to be true. ;)
Unfortunately, the GameGuard developers' team has no credibility. During the years spent with GameGuard we've learned that it never updates itself smoothly and causes lots of troubles to legit players first of all. I bet that after this update there will be times more players unable to start the game due to GG errors, there will be times more false alerts and game crashes than before.
Are you sure you have tested this new version properly? Can you guarantee it's compatible with all versions of Windows at least? And with all types of routers, VPN connections, and lag-reducing services?
Relying on software is not going to fix any "illegal" activities. Wonderful that you suspended/closed 8,000 accounts this week. Still have 200 bots running around Wall of Argos, still have 7 man bot parties in GoS. You guys need an active GM staff. Heck, they don't even have to come into an office, they can just work from home. What about all those people that are having GameGuard issues because it doesn't like MSPaint or PhotoShop(These are examples of programs, and used as examples. I do not know anyone that is technically having issues like this.)? So those players have to wait for a magical GameGuard fix that will probably never come? I'm sure more people will voice concerns over this as word spreads. You guys are pretty much pulling the plug on the life support and the flat line is coming.
After the maintenance one September 2nd, GameGuard will be need to be installed and running in order to start the game.
"Out game" bots do not use game client to play at all - they play directly communicating with server.
Do you want to say that after this Wednesday all "out game" software will get auto ban during login attempt? Or warning first? (Like it was back in year 2010, when players avoiding GameGuard received a warning mail from support first)
What will happen to people that don't update their Gameguard; due to lack of pc use knowledge or due to lack of good english knowledge?
You have to admit the way we have to update this worthless program isn't the easiest for people that doesn't know how to use pc well.
This is a valid point.
Buster, can you maybe ask your technical colleagues to come up with a script that installs the new version of GameGuard automatically when we update the game via the Launcher on Wednesday?
And good job on the 8000 bans! Hunting Ketra Orcs this morning was a pleasure :)
Why do I have to do your work? Should remove/repair automatically. Thanks for the directions but your telling me how to do your job, I'm the customer, remember?!?
so basicly you will make the same stuff like the offi EU server, by launching the "protecting" software before the game
sadly i heard it can be bypassed, but let`s talk when the time comes
as few people pointed before me, we`re the users and (usually) we don`t modify the item we are buying, therefore it`s best for everybody just to add it on an update, because when people check for updates and there are none, and they can`t log in, they start to write complains in the boards :)
Would like to know this as well. Using an integrated version is one thing but making use download and install a third-party program is pushing it.
it`s like downloading cracked version of any game just to see what is inside :)
the problem here will be different :)
Would like to know this as well. Using an integrated version is one thing but making use download and install a third-party program is pushing it.
To be clear, you only need to do this if you don't currently have GameGuard installed/enabled. If you do, and it runs when you launch the game already, then you're set.
Also, you don't need to go and install GameGuard separately. If you need to reinstall it just delete the folder and the next time you launch the game it will automatically reinstall it for you.
To be clear, you only need to do this if you don't currently have GameGuard installed/enabled. If you do, and it runs when you launch the game already, then you're set.
Also, you don't need to go and install GameGuard separately. If you need to reinstall it just delete the folder and the next time you launch the game it will automatically reinstall it for you.
If you are LEGIT you don't need to care. Just update your client and keep it on.
(Please, Don't be FOOL and tell us that you got banned because WTFast. ALL WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CHEATER WITH ZRAN** SCRIPT AND IS A LOOSER THAT DON'T ASSUME THAT !!!)
If you are a botter.
GO CRY TO YOUR BOT PROVIDER AND STOP TO CRY HERE IN THE OFFICIAL FORUMS !! KK ty bye bye
A) All we got to do is delete GameGuard folder before we update next wednesday and it will do the rest itself or we have to download and install gameguard ourselves as a seperate program?
B) Is there any way that this new system affects the LEGALS in ANY way? like for example clicking too fast to enter CoC resulting in getting mixed up with bot user etc? are we safe or is it just a trial that will result in more problems than it will solve?
C) Is this fix gonna finaly protect us for more than a week?
Thanks in advance, looking for official answers and not other players' guesses.
Any answer to the other questions?
It's not a new system, it's the existing GameGuard system that the game has always had just now it will be 100% required to be installed and enabled in order to run the game. So, if you've been playing normally this far and haven't uninstalled or disabled it previously nothing should change from your perspective.
For question "C", I can't really make any promises there. Catching bot programs and hackers is a cat and mouse game and every time we change something they do as well. We'll keep making progress but there's no way to promise that 1 fix will 100% protect the game forever.
Any chance of finaly having an active gm to monitor things a bit better? is there an official line as for why there isnt one?
It's a couple of factors, but ultimately it comes down to the fact that just having a person run around in game is not as effective as it may initially appear to be.
Because even though it may seem obvious that another player isn't legit, it's still required that we do our due diligence on the back end and properly investigate before enacting a suspension or ban; and this requires more time out of game in order to minimize punishing innocent players.
I know it seems slow, especially when it seems as though you see same bots day after day, but the best thing all of you can do to help us out is keep reporting them.
i can understand all that, but if you ever go online, you will be able to see that we dont even have spots to do our daily quests, starting from level 40 up to level 99, everywhere there are bots. worst part atm i think is Guillotine fort where every1 can understand that 4summoners 1iss 1tank and 1heal with same names, waiting at the tank to take aggro, attacking and then moving back to the exact same spot is a bot. perhaps a gm wouldnt ban them for obvious reasons (no proof = no bot) but at least try smth to help us, like port them somewhere or smth.
It's not a new system, it's the existing GameGuard system that the game has always had just now it will be 100% required to be installed and enabled in order to run the game. So, if you've been playing normally this far and haven't uninstalled or disabled it previously nothing should change from your perspective.
For question "C", I can't really make any promises there. Catching bot programs and hackers is a cat and mouse game and every time we change something they do as well. We'll keep making progress but there's no way to promise that 1 fix will 100% protect the game forever.
if all you 're doing is client side then it will be bypassed. You need server side checks that GG is indeed running, else Defcon 1 level alerts sound in your office if your intention is for this to be effective.
I assume the version of game guard will be updated as well. Can we get a changelog from INCA on what we can expect from the new version? I and many others have submitted many tickets for improved compatibility/fixes for our other programs, would be nice to see what the new versions do and what the known issues remaining are.
So long story short, if you're like me, and have no funny stuff on your pc, use a plain old mouse, sit here and click with your hand, get frustrated because so many other people bot and rmt and do all kinds of crazy shhh and you stay legit and get no perks and have a tiny adena pool, then we have nothing to worry about. Just log in as usual and it'll all automatically roll along.
last time i deleted GG folder i couldn`t log in because of a GG error, what makes you, Buster, to think that most of the people are disabling GG?
And another joke you said, what about the dec.2012 bans, was they on purpose or they were investigated with months (as you say)
everything in this thread is wrong
why should legit gamer do any changes to the game files, even erasing them
why does we have to bother about your job, which in particular you are doing well (sadly only in the forum), but nobody from the dev team can`t do
this server is starting to looks like private or pirate server, all for cash and all for few months
I hope this works. You have already deleted my 93+ ISS account with all my adena and Blessed gear. I would hate to have paid all the money for nccoins to loose my lvl 97+ account.
I truly think you should have someone in game going from each hunting area to determine if they are Bots or not and ban them by there in game name. Bots have the ability to change IP address and come right back in to mess up play for all of us legit players.
Oh, and all those high lvl players who protect their Bots hunting in specific areas should be ban from game. shure wish I had my 93+ ISS account back, I would be 99+ on my main by now.
123, Nice! Then I hope that there will be a merge of 5 servers into 1 soon for fun.
It's not a bad idea (but beware latencies)
I hope this works. You have already deleted my 93+ ISS account with all my adena and Blessed gear. I would hate to have paid all the money for nccoins to loose my lvl 97+ account.
I truly think you should have someone in game going from each hunting area to determine if they are Bots or not and ban them by there in game name. Bots have the ability to change IP address and come right back in to mess up play for all of us legit players.
Oh, and all those high lvl players who protect their Bots hunting in specific areas should be ban from game. shure wish I had my 93+ ISS account back, I would be 99+ on my main by now.
xDARKMUSTANGx
although banished wrongly, the account will be closed. I got the case after AFK in WOA, time for a moment with my wife;) hey yeah
I give it less than a day before the bots and cheaters are back in full swing. Bot software uses emulated GG systems to fool the server so even with the checking the server does not know the difference. This has been proven many times in the past.
It won't have any effect since GameGuard is actually crippled to follow privacy laws here in the United States making the detection software basically useless.
last time i deleted GG folder i couldn`t log in because of a GG error, what makes you, Buster, to think that most of the people are disabling GG?
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everything in this thread is wrong
why should legit gamer do any changes to the game files, even erasing them?
This thread is a warning. Our esteemed leadership is trying to avoid slaughtering the cows while they can still be milked :D
I am a legit long time player who has not ever done anything illegal apart from disabling GameGuard and I do have a good reasons to do so.
I do not nor am I willing to run Windows to run a game and Lineage 2 does run great under Linux apart from the one detail, GG just crashes. I would even be happy to run it if that helps against the bots which I keep on reporting while running around in the hunting zones.
So I do have a questions:
1) Am I alone in this?
2) Is it possible to run GG even though it crashes? - I do try it after every update, it crashes and I do submit the crash report, but during the years there has been no improvement.
3) Is GG actually able to prevent bots from being in game?
4) Reporting bots is great, I even do agree with the limit there, but why cannot we report the spammers in towns? They are the ones selling the product of the bots running in the hunting zones.
In other words I do not agree with the technical solution being used here for bots, humans can always tell if player is a bot or not, even though there might be a lot of false positives the suspected bot will always get the higher number of reports.
If the GG is required after the next maintenance than I am sorry to say but couple active players on my side will just not be able to play anymore and I dare to say that we will not be the only ones.
So 11 years after the game goes live they NOW want to get rid of bots by making Game Guard do the work they would not, could not or just didnt want to do.
They brag about the several thousand bots they have banned recently and yet hard to see that for those of us in game. They must be banning them on a test server.
Well this is what happens when one uses the 3 stooges business model. I assume it works wonders in bizarro world. Should be an epic train wreck in the real world.
If the GG is required after the next maintenance than I am sorry to say but couple active players on my side will just not be able to play anymore and I dare to say that we will not be the only ones.
Is it possible to run GG even though it crashes? - I do try it after every update, it crashes and I do submit the crash report, but during the years there has been no improvement.
If they will do the same as in 2010, then you will have opportunity to ask such question
If you have issues with GG usualy means ur pc is infected with something.
What I'll like to see:
* Moving the concurrent game limit to the server side and banning based on HW ID, for ppl that login 4+ accounts from the same iron.
* Monitoring for source port overwrite on the way.
* More "fake" mobs on the lvl100+ areas.
* GM taking some time to watch oly matches at least one per month... (and bans so we know they really did watch 'em.)
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90% users using 3rd program and donating for the game, so now lets see if this 10% left who crying on forum about bots, will keep 5 servers alive with donation. Already a lot peoples cashing out after last news about game guard i think Ncsoft want consciously close all servers, or keep just only one, beacuse since they start baning real peoples, earnings from events decreased about 70% and like always they have no idea how fix it... probably is too late so time for clean servers before billings for it will eat ncsoft and others games.
90% users using 3rd program and donating for the game, so now lets see if this 10% left who crying on forum about bots, will keep 5 servers alive with donation. Already a lot peoples cashing out after last news about game guard i think Ncsoft want consciously close all servers, or keep just only one, beacuse since they start baning real peoples, earnings from events decreased about 70% and like always they have no idea how fix it... probably is too late so time for clean servers before billings for it will eat ncsoft and others games.
90% users using 3rd program and donating for the game, so now lets see if this 10% left who crying on forum about bots, will keep 5 servers alive with donation.
So..... ur trying to tell us l2core isnt making money? Or that you can't play without 3rd party software? I'm confused.
Already a lot peoples cashing out after last news about game guard
Are those the professional l2 player ur talking about?
Sorry for the offtopic, but the "professional l2 player (dependent on 3rd party software)" thingy rises the question:
Do they write that on their CV?:eek:
can you guys stop with the full of assumptions nonsense posts ?
here have a look at how many ppl are currently online which will show you the actual stats without all those nonsense about how many players will be left or use progs etc.
now keep in mind that at the time I make this post it's nearly a dead moment for all servers so minimal activity
Chronos is actually almost near max capacity at peak times with ~5.3k players so you can forget about any server ever being merged with Chronos period - soon server transfers to Chronos will be locked is more likely as server stability will go to hell once they hit 5.5+k players
Naia at current max capacity is approx 3.5k players but that number is going down every maintenance
Shilien sits at peak times around 2.2k players, Bartz at ~1.7k and Magmeld ~1.4k
so if you want to talk about server mergers and exodus of players, game being death etc. let's base it on facts ok ?
can you guys stop with the full of assumptions nonsense posts ?
here have a look at how many ppl are currently online which will show you the actual stats without all those nonsense about how many players will be left or use progs etc.
now keep in mind that at the time I make this post it's nearly a dead moment for all servers so minimal activity
Chronos is actually almost near max capacity at peak times with ~5.3k players so you can forget about any server ever being merged with Chronos period - soon server transfers to Chronos will be locked is more likely as server stability will go to hell once they hit 5.5+k players
Naia at current max capacity is approx 3.5k players but that number is going down every maintenance
Shilien sits at peak times around 2.2k players, Bartz at ~1.7k and Magmeld ~1.4k
so if you want to talk about server mergers and exodus of players, game being death etc. let's base it on facts ok ?
3.5k - 1.5k shops in giran/aden - all bots - afk ppl in villages = 100 active.
on bartz 1.7k? 7 in my clan + near 30 in enemy, the rest bots.
Here are your 'facts'...
Its late to change mentality of players.
Some of them botting for so long so cannot play without it.
Look here, some of this people already were banned for 14 days, but they don't care at all.
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And this happen on every server, I think Chronos still most legit server.
You cannot scare them with few bananas, you just need make impossible to play with their bot.
I don't believe GG can block it, we need something like Frost.
Its late to change mentality of players.
Some of them botting for so long so cannot play without it.
Look here, some of this people already were banned for 14 days, but they don't care at all.
And this happen on every server, I think Chronos still most legit server.
You cannot scare them with few bananas, you just need make impossible to play with their bot.
I don't believe GG can block it, we need something like Frost.
we can't beat them. gm please bann them huh?
half megmeld already got 14 days bann and some received perma bann right after. maybe ncsoft wants merge server soon so they can move their staffs to the new game blade and soul.
I hope this new gameguard fixes some issues I have.
razer synapse program for my razer naga mouse always get disconnected due to reported error/hacking tool. If you cant fix this, you just killed the game for me. I need this gaming mouse cause I can only play with 1 hand(disabled/handicapped from surgery). Hope you are successful.
and yes all the ran gers are worried right now, but that doesnt mean they cant find a fix. and the gm's can ban anyone they want whenever they want.
1) Legit peoples
2) Professional lineage2 gamers (using 3rd prog.)
I bet my *** + 1 mln$ that the first server will be totally empty.
Yes that's what I always suggested: don't ban the cheaters, let's just segregate them and forcefully move them all to one cesspool server! :D
Or make for them a few cesspool servers, in case they're too numerous.
Don't worry about us the legit ones: we'll be absolutely fine without the cheaters! :p
Even if we estimate the proportion of legit players to cheaters as 1:10 there would still be enough of legits to provide population for one healthy server (granted they are active enough). And let the cheaters keep swarming on the rest.
Chronos alone could provide a few hundreds of high level members of legit PvE clans to successfully farm the dragons and do other epic stuff regularly.
The Olympiad and sieges on such a "dream server" would be most enjoyable, unlike the fully automated RvR (robot-vs-robot) on current NCsoft servers.
Heck, if such a perfect "legits-only" server was awailable, I'd pay any money to transfer there with all of my toons and clan warehouse! :D
During next week’s maintenance, we will be making changes to how GameGuard works with the game. After the maintenance on September 2nd, GameGuard will be need to be installed and running in order to start the game. This is being done as part of our efforts to combat bots, hacks, and other illicit activities.
So far, we’ve been able to suspend and/or permanently close over 8,000 accounts engaged in illicit activities this week, and we are continuing to expand and improve our detection and prevention methods.
If you have any questions about this particular change, we will do our best to answer them. If you need a refresher on how to reinstall GameGuard, please see below:
If you’re currently only using the integrated Game Guard version, we recommend you start by deleting the Game Guard folder.
To do this:
First, locate your Lineage II directory. By default, Lineage II installs to [LocalDisk]:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II. Within the System folder, there is a subdirectory titled GameGuard. Delete the GameGuard folder and re-launch LineageII.exe. Let it re-download these files, and then launch the game.
If this does not resolve the issue and the error messages persist, you should verify that you have all firewall or Internet security software disabled. If you are able to connect with your firewall software disabled, then you will need to add exceptions to your firewall rules for the following files: LineageII.exe, L2.bin, GameGuard.Des and GameMon.Des.
These files are by default located in the following directories:
For 32-bit versions of Windows:
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\L2.bin
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard\GameMon.des
For 64-bit versions of Windows:
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\L2.bin
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard\GameMon.des
If after trying all of these adjustments the issue still occurs we recommend trying the following steps:
MSCONFIG
Game Guard errors can sometimes be caused by 3rd party programs interfering with the game client. If you’re experiencing crashing or freezing we recommend you try disabling all 3rd party programs to see if it has any effect on your issue. For instructions on how to do this please reference the KB article here.
Router Bypass
Sometimes Game Guard errors can be caused by the way your network is configured. If disabling the 3rd party programs and security software was unsuccessful, we recommend you attempt to bypass your router and connect directly to your modem as a temporary troubleshooting step in an effort to rule out potential router problems. To do so please reference our KB article here.
Open a Technical Support Request
If your issue still persists after trying all the suggested steps please submit a Technical Support Request. We recommend you run our Game Advisor application first and attach the results to your support help request. For help with how to do this, please reference the KB Article here. https://support.lineage2.com/hc/en-us/articles/204360949-Game-Guard-Errors
Lineage II players can say: "OK GAMEGUARD"
Just curious, why GameGuard is so powerful and complex software so that it allow some players use illegal 3rd party tools over 11 years?
And second, why this wonderful GameGuard can't update itself properly and to not force users to modify something manually to the game?
It's a couple of factors, but ultimately it comes down to the fact that just having a person run around in game is not as effective as it may initially appear to be.
Totally wrong!
And that's why we ever have bots go beyond 85+ :D just because "it's not effective", Am I right?
Lets say we have X number of botters. That is 100%.
If GM's were online they can ban 80% of them that is obvious and are 85+ just in one day.
So next day we have 80% less botters. Even if they create new toons, all of the 85+ locations will have 80% less botters. An this is very noticeable to players community :)
Because even though it may seem obvious that another player isn't legit, it's still required that we do our due diligence on the back end and properly investigate before enacting a suspension or ban; and this requires more time out of game in order to minimize punishing innocent players.
As stated above, being online and ban obvious bots right in place is very effective. Isn't it? No need investigations (read below).
I know it seems slow, especially when it seems as though you see same bots day after day, but the best thing all of you can do to help us out is keep reporting them.
You call it slow?? Bots in Guliotine Fortress and up, that are 99+ , and call that detection methods slow? :D compared to 11 years it's slow, indeed.
NCSoft can not terminate (ban) an account that have followed the ToS.
Its not as simple as "Oh this guy is following this guy and then auto attack. obvious bot. *ban*"
Even though it is obvious its a bot, they cant really click the ban button.
Ban an innocent person that have followed the ToS to the letter and you get a lawsuit on your back.
Dont forget its America, you can shoot an intruder on your backyard legally, but if you throw water on someone in public you will get sued for a million bucks.
(ok not really but you get the picture)
And you cant have played this server "back in the day", bots have always been all over the place.
3. DURATION OF AGREEMENT, ACCOUNT TERMINATION
(c) Account Suspension and/or Termination for Cause - NCSOFT may suspend and/or delete Your Account for cause (e.g., You breach, violate, or otherwise fail to comply with each and every provision of, this agreement) as well as any other Account, NCSOFT Message Board ID, Character ID, Team, and/or characteristics related to a Character ID.
NCSoft can not terminate (ban) an account that have followed the ToS.
Its not as simple as "Oh this guy is following this guy and then auto attack. obvious bot. *ban*"
Even though it is obvious its a bot, they cant really click the ban button.
Ban an innocent person that have followed the ToS to the letter and you get a lawsuit on your back.
Dont forget its America, you can shoot an intruder on your backyard legally, but if you throw water on someone in public you will get sued for a million bucks.
(ok not really but you get the picture)
And you cant have played this server "back in the day", bots have always been all over the place.
3. DURATION OF AGREEMENT, ACCOUNT TERMINATION
(c) Account Suspension and/or Termination for Cause - NCSOFT may suspend and/or delete Your Account for cause (e.g., You breach, violate, or otherwise fail to comply with each and every provision of, this agreement) as well as any other Account, NCSOFT Message Board ID, Character ID, Team, and/or characteristics related to a Character ID.
I don't know what magical "koolaid" you have been drinking but I want some of it. If NCWEST "Feels after further review you have been caught using a 3rd party program" They will ban you and do not have to give any further details.
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Hello,
Game logs of your account activity show conclusive evidence of third party software used in conjunction with the Lineage 2 service.
Please understand that automating gameplay is detrimental to the game community and is against the Rules of Conduct and User Agreement.
That's approximately what you can look forward to getting in your inbox if they even feel or cannot determine if you use anything or not. If you hero shout something inappropriate they can also give a warning or depending what was said its also a ban-able offense.
The fact people are getting scared for what they have been saying for 11+ years now is just silly. There will always be something. There has always been something. If you are not first you are last.
I don't know what magical "koolaid" you have been drinking but I want some of it. If NCWEST "Feels after further review you have been caught using a 3rd party program" They will ban you and do not have to give any further details.
I quote.... I Quote......
As I said, if you have followed the ToS to the letter and have not broken any of the rules, they can not ban you, at all. The ToS says so "right there".
If they ban you without you breaking the rules, they are commiting fraud or something of the like.
I feel you would win a lawsuit fairly easy.
There was a case about a man addicted to L2, he later got banned or something similar.
He sued them, reason was something like "They did not warn me about the addiction, and potential depression issues", from what i remember they settled the matter outside of the court, so in short you could say that he won.
So yeah, I do not think they would ban you unjustfully ;)
sounds like they going the wrong route again, as i know gg blocks some of the useless pve bots but doesnt block the most important thing that is pvp botz
So far, we’ve been able to suspend and/or permanently close over 8,000 accounts engaged in illicit activities this week, and we are continuing to expand and improve our detection and prevention methods.
Do you know that while you were doing the 8000 bans,at Naia,guilodine,a guy since June brought 5-6 bot partys and around 10 pkers which he summons in any tower of gf and on hills to kill automatic 24hours per day,7days per week, anyone who tries to enter guilodine?
Their red pets run all around and target you in a very big distance,this looks very automatic to me and exploit,since pk pet hits you from one side of gf to the other,or pet finds and hit you if run to other floors, and the pker does not fall on ground as he should.
Even when you did bans during summer,these pkers were alive and the bot partys they protect also alive,i manage to go near toons and look on names with lvl1 toon,i didnt see anyone missing.
We can not do our quest,xp or raid at gf with this situation.
I also saw certain top clan toons(hero and not hero)to come and protect those pkers and the bot partys each time players tried to kill those pkers.
The guy(or guys?)who own the botpartys and the pkers have some iss and heal on the ground to rez them and moves isaads/gazems away from their place to make impossible to real players kill the bots,turning gf into a real trap,anywhere you step you dont know if there is an isaad in some corner.Why you havent ban all of them so far?
Changes in gameguard will do nothing to such botters,they will find a program that can work with new gameguard,why gm does not see that 5 partys and 5-6 more toons are logged by 1 person who took a whole area as his own and ban him for ever?
Only by banning such persons from Lineage,you purify Lineage from botting,a bot here and there from someone who wants to lvl faster doesnt harm anyone,taking control of areas and raids with automatic programs and making real players not be able to play is the issue.
NC prolly think to call back ppls who left the game cause of bots, in 1 month max they will see the population will decrease faster, botters buy ncoin items not normal player without credit card.
dont be hypocrites, 99% in this game BOtting or buy adena, just see xp amount to reach lvl 99, it takes months/years if u are full legit and also all those glowing armor/weapons. now all get minimum +6 sets and +7 weapons and i think it's strange...
NC prolly think to call back ppls who left the game cause of bots, in 1 month max they will see the population will decrease faster, botters buy ncoin items not normal player without credit card.
That's probably smartest comment I have seen in a while regarding this topic besides the normal player without credit card part. 110% true which is why people need to calm down regarding this update. Nothing will change and if anything actually does I'm sure it will just be how many clients you can load. I give it 2-4 weeks after this new update push and things will be back to normal.
Hmmm ... So maybe you will be able to setup a correct GameGuard version, WHO DON'T DETECT RAZER SYNAPSE as bad software ? ...
Actualy is pretty annoying to quit it, lunch l2, relunch it after logged ....
1 time / 2 you forget to quit synapse when you wanna lunch a toon, and ALL client logged already are closed for discovering a bad software ... or if you don't forget to quit it, you forget to relunch it and gamepad didn't work ...
This bug is know by your technical service since more than 6 months and nothing change ...
Fix it ! You cannot fix bots (this is the best joke to said you will fight agains bots ... they are king since few years already ...) so at least fix your own software bugs
Hmmm ... So maybe you will be able to setup a correct GameGuard version, WHO DON'T DETECT RAZER SYNAPSE as bad software ? ...
Actualy is pretty annoying to quit it, lunch l2, relunch it after logged ....
1 time / 2 you forget to quit synapse when you wanna lunch a toon, and ALL client logged already are closed for discovering a bad software ... or if you don't forget to quit it, you forget to relunch it and gamepad didn't work ...
This bug is know by your technical service since more than 6 months and nothing change ...
Fix it ! You cannot fix bots (this is the best joke to said you will fight agains bots ... they are king since few years already ...) so at least fix your own software bugs
agreed, if they cant fix this im 2 steps out the door
Do a event on servers "Free pk event" and for every pk you get a mark and you can exchange it for something usefull, you will see server free from bots belive me;)
Do a event on servers "Free pk event" and for every pk you get a mark and you can exchange it for something usefull, you will see server free from bots belive me;)
I can see this being abused heavily by warring clans and players who either don't like each other or just wants to be jerks. :D
Heck, I would go around PK'ing anybody I see just to be able to get free goodies. :D
hum excuse me but there's there to understand, this is completely unnecessary L2Pro you serious?
a server exclusively for robots used to that! and why?
Do a event on servers "Free pk event" and for every pk you get a mark and you can exchange it for something usefull, you will see server free from bots belive me;)
Smart gentleman good idea what you have here.
event that might be feasible 1x/hour/day only for kill this bot's by all players legits would be great :cool:
NC prolly think to call back ppls who left the game cause of bots, in 1 month max they will see the population will decrease faster, botters buy ncoin items not normal player without credit card.
dont be hypocrites, 99% in this game BOtting or buy adena, just see xp amount to reach lvl 99, it takes months/years if u are full legit and also all those glowing armor/weapons. now all get minimum +6 sets and +7 weapons and i think it's strange...
indeed its a desperate attempt to bring back ppl that quit due automated pvps, sadly if anyone will even fall for it they will unsubscribe wery next month since the program that 95% of cheaters use wont be affected even slightly
and 99% of botting and ebaying is only l2NA because nobody even tries here, ppl post full automated pvp videos with custom arrows showing how autotarget works and they ban this person only after 2 or 3 years probably sums it up
Don't worry, ncsoft never disable bots. Bots became a major part of this game. La2 without bots same as black jack without whores. Bots making money for you. Adena drop and loot was adjusted according boting activity. Usual player can't gain enougth to buy shoulshots. From mob in bloody swampland drops 300-500 adena. EWR costs 8-10kk. You need kill 20000 mobs to buy EWR. This is only possible for bot :)
Well... it happen when GM's have no idea about the game, and never played... anyway BB l2t which one req. disable GG for work, gj ;D but ncsoft will never stop Z while this program is more advenced and supported than whole ncwest, 2 days without it for update, just ppl's whos used l2t will quit, nothing more. I think ncwest should deal with bots, they work for ncsoft so )
I want see one GM trying up from 1 to 103 lvl, by hands how long... 2 years? 3 years? + subclass and dualclass, 5 years?
GM's are hypocrites, selling XP runes for heavy money, that expiring even if you are logged off, then crying about bots, rofl. By hands you can use ~40% of 7days rune if you will play few hours everyday, now lets guess why ppl using bot prog. :D
Event drop, my cp ding 100-101 lvl in event and we pick like 400 carrots with full pt =)
mobs on 100+ locations are too hard for legit ppl, it's hard kill them if u're not auto
All classes have 100+ debuffs, protections and others skills, nobody using hands is able to pvp vs 7 ppl with 50 diff. debuffs cele/aug. etc with hands u stay 70% time pvp and watching debuffs... )
game don't have global tokens/assist so how play 30vs30 )
with all new class, buffs/debuffs/protections even bot with s cripts have hard to handle it all on time )
Took me a month to go from level 1 to level 102/100/80/80 legitly on Chronos, the server where a lot more exp spots are contested than dead nonfactor servers. Perhaps you should consider getting better at the game, then you won't need to cheat to make up for your lack of skill.
technically impossible, the game system wont help you do that, so before you say some bs, atleast say something about near truth, with 100% rune you need 24/7 (w.o dc) for hit 100-101 lvl. So for 99-101 you need near 6 weeks + duals class another 6 + subclass near 2 weeks, ofc 24/7 so if you play 8h/day (if you are able to play 8k/day all time xping and you have party whos also will play with you 8h/day w.o break, you need 6 months with rune 100%, w.o near one year, and nobody is able play 8h/day/exp w.o break and even if one/7 ppl can it mean he do not have job and will not buy rune, so still you need one year, if you play less than 8h/day you need 3 years.
Do you know that while you were doing the 8000 bans,at Naia,guilodine,a guy since June brought 5-6 bot partys and around 10 pkers which he summons in any tower of gf and on hills to kill automatic 24hours per day,7days per week, anyone who tries to enter guilodine?
Their red pets run all around and target you in a very big distance,this looks very automatic to me and exploit,since pk pet hits you from one side of gf to the other,or pet finds and hit you if run to other floors, and the pker does not fall on ground as he should.
Even when you did bans during summer,these pkers were alive and the bot partys they protect also alive,i manage to go near toons and look on names with lvl1 toon,i didnt see anyone missing.
We can not do our quest,xp or raid at gf with this situation.
I also saw certain top clan toons(hero and not hero)to come and protect those pkers and the bot partys each time players tried to kill those pkers.
The guy(or guys?)who own the botpartys and the pkers have some iss and heal on the ground to rez them and moves isaads/gazems away from their place to make impossible to real players kill the bots,turning gf into a real trap,anywhere you step you dont know if there is an isaad in some corner.Why you havent ban all of them so far?
Changes in gameguard will do nothing to such botters,they will find a program that can work with new gameguard,why gm does not see that 5 partys and 5-6 more toons are logged by 1 person who took a whole area as his own and ban him for ever?
Only by banning such persons from Lineage,you purify Lineage from botting,a bot here and there from someone who wants to lvl faster doesnt harm anyone,taking control of areas and raids with automatic programs and making real players not be able to play is the issue.
Absence of GM's online are lead to outrage in game.
I just quote this for a chance that everyone can read it once more :eek:
ohh the d/c drive me crazy!!! i delete g guard, i run the game and the g-guard is back on system file again! but i take always d/c when i try to login!!!!! any-1 tell me why? or i must go to play pac-man?? ty!:confused::confused::confused:
During next week’s maintenance, we will be making changes to how GameGuard works with the game. After the maintenance on September 2nd, GameGuard will be need to be installed and running in order to start the game. This is being done as part of our efforts to combat bots, hacks, and other illicit activities.
So far, we’ve been able to suspend and/or permanently close over 8,000 accounts engaged in illicit activities this week, and we are continuing to expand and improve our detection and prevention methods.
If you have any questions about this particular change, we will do our best to answer them. If you need a refresher on how to reinstall GameGuard, please see below:
If you’re currently only using the integrated Game Guard version, we recommend you start by deleting the Game Guard folder.
To do this:
First, locate your Lineage II directory. By default, Lineage II installs to [LocalDisk]:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II. Within the System folder, there is a subdirectory titled GameGuard. Delete the GameGuard folder and re-launch LineageII.exe. Let it re-download these files, and then launch the game.
If this does not resolve the issue and the error messages persist, you should verify that you have all firewall or Internet security software disabled. If you are able to connect with your firewall software disabled, then you will need to add exceptions to your firewall rules for the following files: LineageII.exe, L2.bin, GameGuard.Des and GameMon.Des.
These files are by default located in the following directories:
For 32-bit versions of Windows:
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\L2.bin
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des
C:\Program Files\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard\GameMon.des
For 64-bit versions of Windows:
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\L2.bin
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des
C:\Program Files(x86)\NCsoft\Lineage II\system\GameGuard\GameMon.des
If after trying all of these adjustments the issue still occurs we recommend trying the following steps:
MSCONFIG
Game Guard errors can sometimes be caused by 3rd party programs interfering with the game client. If you’re experiencing crashing or freezing we recommend you try disabling all 3rd party programs to see if it has any effect on your issue. For instructions on how to do this please reference the KB article here.
Router Bypass
Sometimes Game Guard errors can be caused by the way your network is configured. If disabling the 3rd party programs and security software was unsuccessful, we recommend you attempt to bypass your router and connect directly to your modem as a temporary troubleshooting step in an effort to rule out potential router problems. To do so please reference our KB article here.
Open a Technical Support Request
If your issue still persists after trying all the suggested steps please submit a Technical Support Request. We recommend you run our Game Advisor application first and attach the results to your support help request. For help with how to do this, please reference the KB Article here. https://support.lineage2.com/hc/en-us/articles/204360949-Game-Guard-Errors
Bots pm me allready
technically impossible, the game system wont help you do that, so before you say some bs, atleast say something about near truth, with 100% rune you need 24/7 (w.o dc) for hit 100-101 lvl. So for 99-101 you need near 6 weeks + duals class another 6 + subclass near 2 weeks, ofc 24/7 so if you play 8h/day (if you are able to play 8k/day all time xping and you have party whos also will play with you 8h/day w.o break, you need 6 months with rune 100%, w.o near one year, and nobody is able play 8h/day/exp w.o break and even if one/7 ppl can it mean he do not have job and will not buy rune, so still you need one year, if you play less than 8h/day you need 3 years.
You can *easily* get 200b/hour if you got a strong party and stack enough exp.
That means 25000/200 = 125
125 hours total.
If you play 4 hours a day, that would equal to 31 days of exping.
Subclass (and dualclass) can be made from 1>80 (85) in 5 minutes if you spend like 2 billion on pockets.
Dualclass can be leveled from 85>95 in a matter of hours with a "XP Agathion" from the store.
I can easily reach 100b/hour SOLO, in enchanted valley if i stack items.
That would mean 2 months instead of 1, playing 4h a day.
Anyone can do it.
It's not a new system, it's the existing GameGuard system that the game has always had just now it will be 100% required to be installed and enabled in order to run the game. So, if you've been playing normally this far and haven't uninstalled or disabled it previously nothing should change from your perspective.
Yep. I confirm, it's the same lame version of GameGuard as before.
"Much ado about nothing."
I've just reinstalled it, launched the game, got the same "Hacking tool has been discovered" error. Launched again, it worked fine. Nothing changed indeed.
No change for the better, that is.
A program that has glitches and works each time differently under the same conditions is certainly bugged. Since it's bugged, how is it supposed to detect anything?
Gameguard doesnt allow me to play lineage anymore. Support ticket was submitted and told me I have to uninstall Inventor and Pro/ENGINEER to play lineage now... right...
Any gm can answer us what did you change on GG ?
It logs now 3D party software users and you can find bots easier ?
Why i heard ppl playing again without it ?
Do you care how many people leaving nc-west go to l2 eu ****** core since last month ?
Why you don't use FROST engine and 1-2 live gms in high popularity servers if you want fight bots ?
With the $ your are earning from l2store you can have 5 live gms 24/7 .
Please take care of your clients cause day by day you are losing more and more, game will be dead soon and you will not have any customers
Looking for official gm answer
juji cared at start but now its all gone.
bustercasey deleting threads from forums without any rights (or we cant post even our ingame screens?).
lameguard wont solve anything, it cant detect any programs, if you didnt notice last 8 years or so. despite this, ncwest can see players using 3rd party programs (remember juji in gainak (http://i62.tinypic.com/n2ddmu.png)?), and they wont do anything.
i think with this autumn start of l2 classic (inn*va) will be any legit gameplay @ncwest pointless. only true spenders and true bots will stay.
lil point to juji: if you or other staff member cant do lab tests, what about giving possiblity to do them to some players?
edit: added link with screenshot. hope words of producer in game are not reason to delete this post.
Zsomething seems to work normally.
I log 1 char just to check if it is safe.
If no banana next 1-2 days - then go go ...... 1
if for someone it don't work you may:
- run some have task on pc to slow it down (game will start slower and game guard will load slower)
- use local/global patching (you may need to try on lot of files)
if you still not success i will try to prepare some instructions and release updated l2highbuilding loader that could "support" this kind of loading... 2
Any gm can answer us what did you change on GG ?
It logs now 3D party software users and you can find bots easier ?
Why i heard ppl playing again without it ?
Do you care how many people leaving nc-west go to l2 eu ****** core since last month ?
Why you don't use FROST engine and 1-2 live gms in high popularity servers if you want fight bots ?
With the $ your are earning from l2store you can have 5 live gms 24/7 .
Please take care of your clients cause day by day you are losing more and more, game will be dead soon and you will not have any customers
Looking for official gm answer
ppl leaving game beacuse they are scared of ban and lose thousands dolls, not beacuse they want play on legit server, 10% want play legit, all the other for this reason playing ncwest not eu or other ***** server...
As usual, you do not want to help the players that actually want to play here.
When will you understand, that we only want a bot free server as well as no z ranger program.
Is it that hard to merge all the servers in just one, hire a few active gamemasters and develop or buy an anticheat instead of this gameguard that is useless.
But we all talk here in this thread for nothing, no staff member reply.
Thank you and I hope one day you will listen to all the players that bother to write in this forum.
I'm not saying ignore the bot problem but the people that think this game will exist without them are delusional. The 10-20% of so called legits probably contribute to 5-10% of the ncoin purchased. Ban ALL the bots, merge all servers to 1, still won't be enough to justify keeping the game open. WoA full of farmers and top tier script pvp'ers don't bother me, don't xp there or don't war that clan, your not gonna win.
the message of updating GG was for the players as NC most likely can clearly see server side who is running with GG or without or with Modified and this was their way of giving all players a chance to start clean again.
NC staff has clearly said several times now that it is still the same old client side GG, that they are aware not everyone was using it so why make the announcement as they did eh ? think about it..
the message of updating GG was for the players as NC most likely can clearly see server side who is running with GG or without or with Modified and this was their way of giving all players a chance to start clean again.
NC staff has clearly said several times now that it is still the same old client side GG, that they are aware not everyone was using it so why make the announcement as they did eh ? think about it..
This guy read GM notes unlike others.
They clearly said this GG update is "not a magic bullet" and won't solve all bot, use of scripts problems, BUT it will provide better logs for them to find out if someone is in violation of the terms and they will have a better way to prove this.
During next week’s maintenance, we will be making changes to how GameGuard works with the game. After the maintenance on September 2nd, GameGuard will be need to be installed and running in order to start the game. This is being done as part of our efforts to combat bots, hacks, and other illicit activities.
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The bots are farming game
-pms for selling adena in towns
-talking island new toons doing the class q automatic,how i know?they all make exactly the same route,not a step different.
-the botter in guilodine logged 1 of his partys(maybe to see if new gg will ban him?) and 2 of the toons he uses to rez his partys.
I wish the staff would at least type an "lol" here and there at some of the things said about them. Then at least we'd know they have some kind of reaction....I mean, they must be reading these things we say.... Or at least a real answer every now and then.
They say no answer IS an answer...... so I guess they're allowing the bots?
Makes you wonder if they are just so lame, they cannot detect stuff that's trivial to detect... or they just dont give a f :)
(I'm not saying you guys are incompetent...but I'm thinking it.)
When you look at the weekly graph here, you can see that whatever they did to GameGuard, either client side or server side, did have some effect: http://lineage2.kaifas.lt/lineage2/magmeld.html
Magmeld is down from around 1100 to around 700, i.e. more than 1/3 less. Even if we assume that some of this is psychological and the more timid botters will reappear next week, it's better than nothing.
By the way, when we take into consideration that there are already some bots back at the Wall of Argos, the Guillotine Fortress etc., the percentage of players using 3rd party software is probably not 90% but more like 60% :p
Yeah People are so scared that most of them in Chronos CoC are using anti hide, Auto target and so on alrdy again. As long as it dont blow away some of the real big ones, nothing changes. 2 week bans are nothing, those People will be "good" for 1 month and then restart the old Business. And sry Yidao but having 60% bots or 90% bots is not really something to be proud of. The Goal is 0%.
But i hope that the work that is now started will really go ahead and at some Point it will reach the top bots/cheaters.
When you look at the weekly graph here, you can see that whatever they did to GameGuard, either client side or server side, did have some effect: http://lineage2.kaifas.lt/lineage2/magmeld.html
Magmeld is down from around 1100 to around 700, i.e. more than 1/3 less. Even if we assume that some of this is psychological and the more timid botters will reappear next week, it's better than nothing.
By the way, when we take into consideration that there are already some bots back at the Wall of Argos, the Guillotine Fortress etc., the percentage of players using 3rd party software is probably not 90% but more like 60% :p
Got one of those for the other servers? Or even NC West as a whole?
I don't think there is a ready-made graph for NCwest as a whole, at least for the public. Juji certainly has such statistics; maybe he can post them to counter the rumour-mongering going on these days :)
@ Frendchen:
I was in no way implying that having "only" 60% bots instead of 90% is something to be proud of. I was just trying to supply hard numbers instead of personal oppinions based on subjective observations. Of course the goal should be 0%. In order to achieve that goal I myself would not have posted the warning in this thread but simply made the GameGuard changes quietly and then banned everybody. In this way the player population could have been cut down by 50% in one fell swoop. But this is precisely what Juji wanted to avoid. He wants people to be "good" and keep on buying NCoins, while I want people to be dead. When you annihilate several thousand dollars' worth of equipment per player, that person certainly won't play an NCsoft game again. Problem solved in a terminal way, once and for all.
This is the reason why Juji is Producer and I am not :p
Claims laugh see many bots now claiming the use of bot because without it there is no sense bot omggg play.
It was already known that almost 95% of the server using botss and now claim it does not work like any game error
I have no problem with the customer 100% correct
stop mourn and use fingers obese.
I only play 3-4 hours a day and soon lvl 101
I leave the game 8 months ago since auto-pvp stuck the game... with this update I can play the game as healer with my hands and other people can't use automated tools to see what skill I'm casting?
Sounds good... I'm looking for auto-pvp stop tool like l2eu, this new gg update will prevent auto-pvp or only prevent massive account log to farm?
sadly i had hardware malfunction and needed to buy new disk
with SSD everything loads faster, even the game loads, way faster than before, buit 2 secs after hitting "play"it goes not responding (because GameMon.des doesn`t load fast enough) and then crashes
from all the good job you could do you didn`t do a shiet with that "update"
why don`t you just ban all bots and prohobit the use of scripts and get dealt with it ?
Before GG i could play some mobas and now with new update cant play other games while i put my dworfs to do their jobs... so if i want to sell package sales that AH dont support i cant play anything else =/ best patch ever XD
Also i know some clanmates that bot hard and got temp suspension and i got perma banned cos i did acc sharing idk who do the ban criteria but im a real fan of that dep... as my wife said now i dont spend 250 bucks monthly on pixels and we can go out more cos i dont siege nor dim anymore XD
I'm not saying ignore the bot problem but the people that think this game will exist without them are delusional. The 10-20% of so called legits probably contribute to 5-10% of the ncoin purchased. Ban ALL the bots, merge all servers to 1, still won't be enough to justify keeping the game open. WoA full of farmers and top tier script pvp'ers don't bother me, don't xp there or don't war that clan, your not gonna win.
Average Ncwest L2 player,wouldnt use 3rd party program if xp in game had a meaning,since the drops/spoil went so low that you need stay 24/7 with many toons to make something and since you cant make mass pvp against scripters if your group is legit,what you expect.A player who had investigate years of his time and has friends playing, tries all ways to keep going.
Some years ago,raids had drops,top raids were gearing all clan,you could make lvls without need buy all vitality stuff from store,game costed 15$ per account,you could do it with 2 accounts.Since game became ''free'',you need spend some thousands of $ per year to store to become endgame toon.
I see my posts about certain big botter have been deleted,just for the people who watched my posts to know,i did submit ticket with screenshots that prove what i say,from my part as a player i helped Ncwest.
These forums are not the place to report bots or suspected botters. Please put in a support ticket for that. https://lineage2.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/
Can you explain what is needed in order to get some 3rd party user banned?
It seems reporting him/her, and providing his/her script, plus some extra info how it works, and what can be seen to be sure it's really a bot - is just not enough.... Makes you wonder...
Yes, I couldn't figure out how to make a new post so i thought i would post here. I log in and start gameplay, but after about 10 minutes, it freezes and then disconnects me. I just reinstalled this morning so i don't know what the problem is.
Can you explain what is needed in order to get some 3rd party user banned?
It seems reporting him/her, and providing his/her script, plus some extra info how it works, and what can be seen to be sure it's really a bot - is just not enough.... Makes you wonder...
This would be very help full. After reporting the same bots over the years, with pic, loc, what they are doing and even clips. Guess what happened....they showed up on the Hero list. No bans no nothing....yet to anyone that plays this game it's easy to spot them. Granted that this happened over a year ago. And after that I and many others have given up reporting said bots to GM's. The only good it does is wast our time trying to report the ones that never get banned.
This would be very help full. After reporting the same bots over the years, with pic, loc, what they are doing and even clips. Guess what happened....they showed up on the Hero list. No bans no nothing....yet to anyone that plays this game it's easy to spot them. Granted that this happened over a year ago. And after that I and many others have given up reporting said bots to GM's. The only good it does is wast our time trying to report the ones that never get banned.