1. There is a great dilemma in L2. It's the dilemma of item upgrade.
Gears in Lineage2 get old as time goes by and players look to something new, something more than R99, Bloody and Dark...but the problem is, if L2 introduces new higher level gears then the market price for R99, Bloody and Dark crashes, turning them into just garbage; and that will certainly piss off all the HardCore L2 players who also happen to be the Major Nstore Shoppers. I think NCsoft wants to upgrade the gears too, it's just that they are afraid they would lose most of their Best Royal VIP customers if they did...
On the other hand, I see top players leaving this game simply because they are bored with this game and nothing new in the game any more....Same ***** different days...they say....
So what to do?
SIMPLE!
Dragon Weapons! and Dragon Gears!
In the next major update, give R99 weapons an option to upgrade to Dragon weapons! Yes it's about time! I am sure this will keep people busy for the next 2-3 years at least. Make it something like, normal R99 weapons can't be upgraded to Dragon weapons, but Blessed weapons have 30% chance, Bloody or Dark have 50%, +7 bloody or dark = 70%, +10 bloody or dark = 90% and +12 = 100%, 15+ = LvL2 Dragon weapon!
I am pretty sure this will make a lot of people happy and players who invested a lot already will gladly accept the change.
2. Arena instance
Olympiad and COC are nice but how about making an Arena fights in L2?
Players can make a party of 2, 3, 5 and do
2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 5 vs 5 Arena fights.(it's just like Arena in WOW)
You just make a party and queue for arena and when your queue is up, an icon appears on the window asking you to enter the arena---> Click 'Yes' ----> you move to Arena instantly, and you fight as a small group!
Well, I am sure people will enjoy this and if the Reward list is good, then yeah I am certain this will make the game far more interesting!
3. WarZone instance
2 party command channel warzones, 4 party wazones, and 7 party warzones.
You can either make the full command channel parties or queue as an individual to join a random warzone party. The moment you enter, your enemies Id all apprear as RED and you can fight freely for fun in the warzones. (think of Alterac valley in WOW)
Some ideas for Reward List for Arena and Warzone points.
Runewords in Diablo 2?
How about bringing the Runewords from Diablo2 into L2?
Players can get Runes with their arena or warzone points and get to make Runewords.
Jah + Ith + Ber = Enigma
Ko + Vex + Pul + Thul = Hoto (heart of the Ox)
Dol + Um + Ber + Ist = COH(Chains of Honor)
with a random chance of it being 50%~100%, and 100% being better than Dragon gears?!!
I am sure people can enjoy this!
Also...to make things far more interesting...I would divide Dark elf + Kamael + Orcs vs Human + elves + Ertheia permanently with only Dwarves remaining neutral until LvL 85 awakening, then they have to choose one side. Two factions always in the state of war! the more you kill = the more pK points you get = More runes you can collect!
Core issues with 3v3 was it wasnt incentivized enough to get the proper volume of players signing up.
The other issue was match fixing and registration. A proper implementation would have had weekly team registration (you can only play with your registered partners (say out of 3 that go in you can have 5 in a team with 2 as alternates). This curbs most (not all) of the potential system abuse and oly powerfarming. Since teams would be fixed objects from a book keeping point of view you could ensure that each registered team for that week would never fight each other twice in the same competition week. Then execute a pure swiss style (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament) matchup rotation.
To incentivize 3v3 you make it a net gain activity. Winners gain 30 points each, losers gain 10 points each. The fact that you win something even if you lose guarantees high participation in 3v3 format.
Sadly NCWest doesnt have development/localization resources like NCJapan / Taiwan so even when you have good solutions to problems or nice feature enhancements its kind of irrelevant.
I don't agree with your gear /character progression analysis. There is always something you can do or get to improve your character in L2; ALWAYS!
Gear acquisition in Lineage 2 is exponential in nature. By that I mean improvements get more and more expensive as you get closer to the "top."
Let me give you an example; I am going to give a list of what most players would reasonably consider normal "end-game" gear and then I am going to list (to the best of my knowledge) "top" gear.
End Game Gear/setup; lvl 103, +8 Dark Set, +12 Dark Weap, Longing, 7s, lv2 Abundance, +15 Skills, +7 Shirt, lv5 Leg Dyes, +6 Boss Jewel Set, Rulers Belt, 4* Agathion, lv4 Gem Set, etc.
TOP Gear/setup; lvl 105, +10 Dark Set, +16 Dark Weap, Insanity, 7s, lv4 Abundance, +8 (or better) Shirt, lv5 STR/CHA Dyes (lol), +8 Boss Jewel Set w/rare Augments, +8 Rulers Belt, 5* Agathion, lv5 Gem Set, +20 Skills, etc.
Assuming all other factors are equal, "top" gear will smash "end game gear." Additionally, if we look at it from a numerical perspective, it probably cost 300 bil+ MORE adena to go from "end game" to "top" geared. So is this ridiculous, absolutely but don't try to tell us there isn't room to "upgrade" in L2.
i agree make it as much carebearish as posible for this 50ppl that still play through 5 servers, maybe put some levels of gm status for nccoins? would be easiest to implement
OP, the time has come to you to stop. You better be off counting your cracking nuts on your credit card instead of caring of giving away "ideas" to a 10y+ outdated mmo game, specially when they are not even that original, but only copypast from anothers companies.
It's not gonna happen, and mainly bcuz 1) we, as west side, have literally 0 sh*t influence to what koreans will plan for the future of the game and 2) we r only the milky cows, as you exhaustively has proven with your endless post about how much $$ have you spent on this game.
OP, the time has come to you to stop. You better be off counting your cracking nuts on your credit card instead of caring of giving away "ideas" to a 10y+ outdated mmo game, specially when they are not even that original, but only copypast from anothers companies.
It's not gonna happen, and mainly bcuz 1) we, as west side, have literally 0 sh*t influence to what koreans will plan for the future of the game and 2) we r only the milky cows, as you exhaustively has proven with your endless post about how much $$ have you spent on this game.
Before I started writing on this forum, I monitored the forum for about a month and was amazed by the lack of new posts, inactivity and generally lack of care for each post writing and their responses. It seemed to me, the forum was deserted. In case you think I am spamming, well I am not. There are simply not enough new posts people make each week. Well, for the last couple of days, I've made about 5 new posts...so it may look like too much, but I've been doing that to make a point.
I don't think I understand what the problem is. I am writing stuff totally on my own volition and it's totally free, I am not forcing anybody to read, you don't need to anwer my thoughts with your thoughts, and you don't even have to read if you don't want to.
"Nothing in the world has any meaning except the meaning we give it" - William Shakespeare
I think this is very true to all things in life. I've been showing how many Ncoins I've spent and what I got with them, mainly because I am also curious about what others spend and what they got, and have the Nstore shoppers discuss with each other in an open space. It's all relative I think. To the people who spend so little or nothing at all, it may look like I am showing off, but to the eyes of the real N-coin spenders(people with real money), I don't think I impress them at all.
I totally disagree with your opinion that we got "0" influence on NCsoft Korea.
You will be amazed by how great changes can be made with small "ButterFly Effects" Most people underestimate the importance of who they are and convince themselves that they are not good enough to be the MAIN REASON for any big changes to happen, but I am pretty sure anyone can be the INITIAL CAUSE for a lot of things. (All great things have a small beginning - Prometheus)
There are so many media outlets out there these days looking for some interesting stories to tell and I know some rich Korean people playing on chronos, also reading this forum.
I am sorry if I seem to be dominating the forum but that is not my intention. It's just that all this knowledge and experience and my thoughts will die with me and be forever lost eventually, so I am just letting them out to the world FREE so I won't have regrets later in my life, that's all.
Before I started writing on this forum, I monitored the forum for about a month and was amazed by the lack of new posts, inactivity and generally lack of care for each post writing and their responses. It seemed to me, the forum was deserted. In case you think I am spamming, well I am not. There are simply not enough new posts people make each week. Well, for the last couple of days, I've made about 5 new posts...so it may look like too much, but I've been doing that to make a point.
I don't think I understand what the problem is. I am writing stuff totally on my own volition and it's totally free, I am not forcing anybody to read, you don't need to anwer my thoughts with your thoughts, and you don't even have to read if you don't want to.
"Nothing in the world has any meaning except the meaning we give it" - William Shakespeare
I think this is very true to all things in life. I've been showing how many Ncoins I've spent and what I got with them, mainly because I am also curious about what others spend and what they got, and have the Nstore shoppers discuss with each other in an open space. It's all relative I think. To the people who spend so little or nothing at all, it may look like I am showing off, but to the eyes of the real N-coin spenders(people with real money), I don't think I impress them at all.
I totally disagree with your opinion that we got "0" influence on NCsoft Korea.
You will be amazed by how great changes can be made with small "ButterFly Effects" Most people underestimate the importance of who they are and convince themselves that they are not good enough to be the MAIN REASON for any big changes to happen, but I am pretty sure anyone can be the INITIAL CAUSE for a lot of things. (All great things have a small beginning - Prometheus)
There are so many media outlets out there these days looking for some interesting stories to tell and I know some rich Korean people playing on chronos, also reading this forum.
I am sorry if I seem to be dominating the forum but that is not my intention. It's just that all this knowledge and experience and my thoughts will die with me and be forever lost eventually, so I am just letting them out to the world FREE so I won't have regrets later in my life, that's all.Your ambition is cute, but you're preaching to the wrong crowd. You're not investing any money, you're wasting it. L2's glory via NCW has come and gone. You can't come in here thinking you're going to single-handedly save us all with your fresh ideas and big spending. You're going to get laughed at as a fool as many have already "been there done that", or receive negative feedback as your spending displays will only make you look arrogant...you may get a few positive replies as some of your ideas aren't bad, you're just once again...years late friend.
Really don't see why people have to bash saying "Give up" or "Nothing you post will make it better".
From what I can see the OP is just trying to suggest ideas and view points to NCW in hope of a better game in the future. We all play (well most of us) b/c we haven't found something that keeps us so attached as L2.
Really don't see why people have to bash saying "Give up" or "Nothing you post will make it better".
From what I can see the OP is just trying to suggest ideas and view points to NCW in hope of a better game in the future. We all play (well most of us) b/c we haven't found something that keeps us so attached as L2.
Hey, obviously L2's got me attached all this time too! I get his points and ideas...some of them would be nice to see implemented, and I try to tell him that. But it just seems like he's a little too late for anything to be taken seriously. L2's glory days are over...it's become nothing but a pure money maker now with little actual "care" being put back into it. It just seems like the end could be around the corner any day...I know it's been said for years and years, so who knows maybe it'll be 10 more years. But the lack of bot control and the pay to win framework just annoy many people to the point of this is a love it or leave it game. Hell, I can literally walk away for days, weeks, months and give 2 sh**s. I'm sure I'm not alone. But to all the newbies that come here and like the game, well bless their little souls, I just hope they're not stupid enough to empty their wallets here. There's really no prize for having the most "stuff".
New people in Lineage 2 is always a problem with them. Children your dreams associated with what could be appear in L2 will never be satisfied because it's just a branch of NCSoft. And all the players who started play here before the game had become F2P know perfectly well that the only Korean players can influence the game.:D
New people in Lineage 2 is always a problem with them. Children your dreams associated with what could be appear in L2 will never be satisfied because it's just a branch of NCSoft. And all the players who started play here before the game had become F2P know perfectly well that the only Korean players can influence the game.:D
Yeah, unfortunately. Proven countless times already, even back in the day when NCWest was cooperating with Castle owners and asking them for feedback/whatnot.
Now NCWest is just handling CS issues and promoting galleria/ig shop as much as possible to make sure they aren't closed down (and NA license transferred to someone else who can give better returns; perhaps even the same FOURgame).
Aside from KR and TW, NCSoft HQ really does not care. If, for example, NC Japan would stop paying well, they would close it down asap. If tencent would stop paying well, the license would be revoked asap.
And the best of all:
If IAM-INTERACTIVE would start introducing their own-made features/solutions, their license would be revoked instantly. Wait, that already happened and L2 SEA is gone forever.
And the best of all:
If IAM-INTERACTIVE would start introducing their own-made features/solutions, their license would be revoked instantly. Wait, that already happened and L2 SEA is gone forever.
Interesting one...maybe mind to explain more? :p even PMs are welcome! :rolleyes:
1. There is a great dilemma in L2. It's the dilemma of item upgrade.
Gears in Lineage2 get old as time goes by and players look to something new, something more than R99, Bloody and Dark...but the problem is, if L2 introduces new higher level gears then the market price for R99, Bloody and Dark crashes, turning them into just garbage; and that will certainly piss off all the HardCore L2 players who also happen to be the Major Nstore Shoppers. I think NCsoft wants to upgrade the gears too, it's just that they are afraid they would lose most of their Best Royal VIP customers if they did...
On the other hand, I see top players leaving this game simply because they are bored with this game and nothing new in the game any more....Same ***** different days...they say....
So what to do?
SIMPLE!
Dragon Weapons! and Dragon Gears!
In the next major update, give R99 weapons an option to upgrade to Dragon weapons! Yes it's about time! I am sure this will keep people busy for the next 2-3 years at least. Make it something like, normal R99 weapons can't be upgraded to Dragon weapons, but Blessed weapons have 30% chance, Bloody or Dark have 50%, +7 bloody or dark = 70%, +10 bloody or dark = 90% and +12 = 100%, 15+ = LvL2 Dragon weapon!
I am pretty sure this will make a lot of people happy and players who invested a lot already will gladly accept the change.
2. Arena instance
Olympiad and COC are nice but how about making an Arena fights in L2?
Players can make a party of 2, 3, 5 and do
2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 5 vs 5 Arena fights.(it's just like Arena in WOW)
You just make a party and queue for arena and when your queue is up, an icon appears on the window asking you to enter the arena---> Click 'Yes' ----> you move to Arena instantly, and you fight as a small group!
Well, I am sure people will enjoy this and if the Reward list is good, then yeah I am certain this will make the game far more interesting!
3. WarZone instance
2 party command channel warzones, 4 party wazones, and 7 party warzones.
You can either make the full command channel parties or queue as an individual to join a random warzone party. The moment you enter, your enemies Id all apprear as RED and you can fight freely for fun in the warzones. (think of Alterac valley in WOW)
Some ideas for Reward List for Arena and Warzone points.
Runewords in Diablo 2?
How about bringing the Runewords from Diablo2 into L2?
Players can get Runes with their arena or warzone points and get to make Runewords.
Jah + Ith + Ber = Enigma
Ko + Vex + Pul + Thul = Hoto (heart of the Ox)
Dol + Um + Ber + Ist = COH(Chains of Honor)
with a random chance of it being 50%~100%, and 100% being better than Dragon gears?!!
I am sure people can enjoy this!
Also...to make things far more interesting...I would divide Dark elf + Kamael + Orcs vs Human + elves + Ertheia permanently with only Dwarves remaining neutral until LvL 85 awakening, then they have to choose one side. Two factions always in the state of war! the more you kill = the more pK points you get = More runes you can collect!
Why not?! I also LOVED the "collect'em all system" from "pokèmon" series! So why don't you guys introduce some sort of collection system? like :
You make avalaible a new NPC in the major towns (like giran,aden,rune),which sells you the MobéBalls! Maybe you may even add some extra feature to improve the balls,like 1 MobéBall+5 fire crystal = FireBall which increase chance of capturing Fire-kind mobs!
And the capture system will be avalaible even via CC,so if you successfully capture a Lindvior,every player in the CC get the datas!
After capturing all the mobs and minions into L2 you can exchange ur MobèMaster points to the MobèMaster NPC (which imho,should be the same of the MobèBalls) and you can exchange your points for items! like PVP stones,epic jewels,free adenas,plushies,star wars' weapons,cookies! yeah everyone loves cookies!
Interesting one...maybe mind to explain more? :p even PMs are welcome! :rolleyes:
L2 SEA, as in "South-East Asia", was the first territory that was licensed out to a different company, AsianMedia, located in Manila, now bankrupt and gone. The problem was that there the GMs were really corrupt, taking bribes for giving advantages to players. This resulted in an escalating drop of player numbers and a corresponding drop in revenue. In the end NCsoft pulled the plug and revoked the license.
Something similar happened with the company that first took over the operations from NCChina (I think it was during the Gracia updates). Their license was also revoked, and now NCsoft is quite successfully cooperating with Tengxun (http://www.qq.com/) aka "tencent" :)
1. There is a great dilemma in L2. It's the dilemma of item upgrade.
Gears in Lineage2 get old as time goes by and players look to something new, something more than R99, Bloody and Dark...but the problem is, if L2 introduces new higher level gears then the market price for R99, Bloody and Dark crashes, turning them into just garbage; and that will certainly piss off all the HardCore L2 players who also happen to be the Major Nstore Shoppers. I think NCsoft wants to upgrade the gears too, it's just that they are afraid they would lose most of their Best Royal VIP customers if they did...
On the other hand, I see top players leaving this game simply because they are bored with this game and nothing new in the game any more....Same ***** different days...they say....
So what to do?
SIMPLE!
Dragon Weapons! and Dragon Gears!
In the next major update, give R99 weapons an option to upgrade to Dragon weapons! Yes it's about time! I am sure this will keep people busy for the next 2-3 years at least. Make it something like, normal R99 weapons can't be upgraded to Dragon weapons, but Blessed weapons have 30% chance, Bloody or Dark have 50%, +7 bloody or dark = 70%, +10 bloody or dark = 90% and +12 = 100%, 15+ = LvL2 Dragon weapon!
I am pretty sure this will make a lot of people happy and players who invested a lot already will gladly accept the change.
2. Arena instance
Olympiad and COC are nice but how about making an Arena fights in L2?
Players can make a party of 2, 3, 5 and do
2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 5 vs 5 Arena fights.(it's just like Arena in WOW)
You just make a party and queue for arena and when your queue is up, an icon appears on the window asking you to enter the arena---> Click 'Yes' ----> you move to Arena instantly, and you fight as a small group!
Well, I am sure people will enjoy this and if the Reward list is good, then yeah I am certain this will make the game far more interesting!
3. WarZone instance
2 party command channel warzones, 4 party wazones, and 7 party warzones.
You can either make the full command channel parties or queue as an individual to join a random warzone party. The moment you enter, your enemies Id all apprear as RED and you can fight freely for fun in the warzones. (think of Alterac valley in WOW)
Some ideas for Reward List for Arena and Warzone points.
Runewords in Diablo 2?
How about bringing the Runewords from Diablo2 into L2?
Players can get Runes with their arena or warzone points and get to make Runewords.
Jah + Ith + Ber = Enigma
Ko + Vex + Pul + Thul = Hoto (heart of the Ox)
Dol + Um + Ber + Ist = COH(Chains of Honor)
with a random chance of it being 50%~100%, and 100% being better than Dragon gears?!!
I am sure people can enjoy this!
Also...to make things far more interesting...I would divide Dark elf + Kamael + Orcs vs Human + elves + Ertheia permanently with only Dwarves remaining neutral until LvL 85 awakening, then they have to choose one side. Two factions always in the state of war! the more you kill = the more pK points you get = More runes you can collect!
I have been playing L2 on and off since Chronicle 1, I think 52 was the max level at the time. There has always been a constant changing progression of new gear to work towards and achieve. They didnt upgrade B grade weapons to A grade when they came out. I dont see what makes R99 gear any different when new gear comes out. Thy always put something new in place, and move forward.
It's the way L2 works and always has. If anything the game is so much easier to level, newbie buffs, daily quests, and tons of things to shoot people up in levels now. I dont see why arbitrarily giving ability to upgrade R99 should happen.
I have been playing L2 on and off since Chronicle 1, I think 52 was the max level at the time. There has always been a constant changing progression of new gear to work towards and achieve. They didnt upgrade B grade weapons to A grade when they came out. I dont see what makes R99 gear any different when new gear comes out. Thy always put something new in place, and move forward.
It's the way L2 works and always has. If anything the game is so much easier to level, newbie buffs, daily quests, and tons of things to shoot people up in levels now. I dont see why arbitrarily giving ability to upgrade R99 should happen.
A sad truth about most end-game geared L2 players is that they all got their gears mostly from spending Real Money.(at Nstore I hope, so the money spent at least went to the right place) At the moment 1 Ncoin = 350k adena, so $5 USD = 400 Ncoin = 140kk. Talisman Longing = 6B = $200 USD, Seven sign Talisman = 30B = $1,000 USD, +12 Bloody weapon = 30B = another $1000 USD...etc...which is the very sad state of L2. Let's say a player spends $5,000 USD(minimum I think) at Nstore promotions to get the most out of the money s/he spends and get all End-game gear basics. What do you think will happen if NC releases a new update and new gears all of a sudden, making all previous endgame gears just garbage? Even for subscription based games such as 'World of Warcraft' a lot of people just quit when a new major update comes-months of hard work gone to waste they say...
What I am suggesting here is not just for L2 but for all MMORPG games. I am suggesting a solution to grow and make the game prosper without losing Core players over time. Yeah I am missing the old L2 as well.
Back then C grade weapon = 10kk, B grade = 40kk and A grade 100kk, and there was a little price change for gears with the release of new updates.(just more adena drops, meaning adena inflation LOL) With the current P2W business model of L2, new item update = self-destruct of L2. All paying L2 players will leave this game, servers will close cuz they won't be able to pay the expenses.