hello !! can players share opinion to using old buf from game times whitch is long time gone ??? you can boost self if you are titan (or other tyrr) with tauti, or with OE retributer.... by using this power buff spirit of shilien. but tell me, you think is right or not ? this play style can unbalanced game. others characters have no chance boost self like this.... is good or not ?? what you think ?? im agains, bckose game is not development from times Goodes of destruction, for this buff.... no other chance to other characters increasing ability like this. character whitch is no aweken but still can be lvl 104, so no exist limits for using spirit of shilien ... thank you for answer and pleas no emo, just tell me .... :cool:
Even without SOS buff, certain classes can hit way too hard.
It takes away the entire point of raid bosses when a single tyrr can outdamage 30 people, and when you can kill an open field raidboss in one minute alone, something is seriously not right.
^ dont even try to argue and say things are "ok" and "balanced", please.
Just because "anyone can do it" doesnt mean it is balanced, ok? :D
That being said, like 95% of the buffs from 3rd class, SOS should not stack with certain melodies/harmonies.
Just like old "berserker spirit" doesnt stack with harmony for example.
It does, just as you say, bring nothing but unbalance to the tabel.
And before the usual forum trolls come to troll, a true pver does not rely on one buff to be good, and if the loss of that buff means defeat, you are not a true pver. :D:o:D
losing that buff can lead to 75% dps loss only in crit dmg multiplier, i am not calculating the 30% Patk
about berserker spirit, once harmonies had negative buffs like the berserker have but due high demand it was removed
Exactly my point.
One single buff should not be that OP, especially if it only gives that high boost to 1 class.
There is no point in keeping it - if it is NEEDED to kill dragons.. You could for example give them a slight nerf in their P. def, skills or whatever and then remove SOS, it would be 100x better than keeping SOS buff the way it is.
About berserker, im not talking about SOS giving negative stats etc.
I mean, if you try to buff berserker spirit now, it does not work because it does not stack with harmony.
Same thing should be with SOS, if you have harmony, it should not stack.
It is not NEEDED to kill dragons, but it helps being faster at it.
It does not boost only 1 class, it can boost all warrior and rogue classes. If you 2 want to nerf the buff because of PVE, then you two are the biggest carebears out there.
And I haven't seen any Titan using 2h blunt, with sos and destroying a full party. Never.
It is not NEEDED to kill dragons, but it helps being faster at it.
It does not boost only 1 class, it can boost all warrior and rogue classes. If you 2 want to nerf the buff because of PVE, then you two are the biggest carebears out there.
And I haven't seen any Titan using 2h blunt, with sos and destroying a full party. Never.
So PVE complaining now? Seriously? FFS.
Hard to lvl up a toon these days. I understand.
Not required to kill dragons?
Perfect, no need to keep it.
Of course not, cause a PVE tyrr would be down in 3 hits.
No one is crying.
As i said before - the normal excuse of "everyone can do it" does not justify it.
As said - when one class can outdamage a force of 30 DDs, something is not right.
You can keep defending it and scream we're carebears and crying, we all know what im saying is true.
When a tyrr can go PVE and outdmg a full CC and kill openfield bosses in a minute, solo.. no one can be stupid enough to try and justify it.
same logic can be applied to my char, how the *** iss have to hit kalios for 140k+ dmg and your tyr can`t
that is nonsense :)
all classes got benefits from sos, all classes have the same healing nerf from sos
why don`t you just make toon for it and use it like everybody
or you want to say that my phantom summoner dual is bad because the mass phantom cubic replaces the tyrr debuffs and i can make tyrr useless in the party setup - see, same logic here
same logic can be applied to my char, how the *** iss have to hit kalios for 140k+ dmg and your tyr can`t
that is nonsense :)
all classes got benefits from sos, all classes have the same healing nerf from sos
why don`t you just make toon for it and use it like everybody
or you want to say that my phantom summoner dual is bad because the mass phantom cubic replaces the tyrr debuffs and i can make tyrr useless in the party setup - see, same logic here
It is an outdated buff that was designed for the game years ago.
Ask yourself why old cancel from nukers dont work with new buffs, they delete up to 6 buffs(?), the new ones delete up to 2.
Lot of examples like this.
Why should these buffs get nerfed/stop working, when this stay the same and break the balance completely?
It is outdated and OP for today setup, thus it should be deleted or atleast revamped.
I say this for the third time, "Anyone can do it" is not an valid argument, it does not justify this at all.
And your iss example is pure BS, nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Tyrr with same setup as your iss would deal more damage than your iss, therefore irrelevant ;)
And yeah I do have my own SoS buff, and I know I get a good boost even on my yul.
There were a time when I rly felt @Znipoo's comments to be very wise straight, but at some point it went down to such dumb gibberish that I even can't stand reading... really man, playing archer since ever and ranting on old pve 3rd class buff?
If you guys wanna rant, so go deeper and cry for over all the old buffs ingame yet that in some way or another does unbalance the game: oly buffs sticks, duelist spirit, smart cubic, some old 2nd class archers buff and etc.
Where were you nobs, when we were posting about Mystic Immunity, Spirit of Shilen, DA reflect?
Certainly you weren't here, so this is what you get for being passive homos. Go buy more NCoins to release the stream, there is an "event" running you know xD
when you are awakening you lose some skills or they can be lvl-ed further by increasing their lvl
higher lvl = more land chance
other skills that you can cry are gate chant, DA reflect, healer and paladin salvation, mistyc immunity, POWind
Not even the point.
But that being said, mystic immunity should be changed too. :o
Permanently immune is too OP these days, was different before, just like with the incredibly high increase from SoS.
You can really can just keep arguing and fighting for this, sooner or later they will balance it out :)
Just like they did with enchants on 3rd class skills etc.
There were a time when I rly felt @Znipoo's comments to be very wise straight, but at some point it went down to such dumb gibberish that I even can't stand reading... really man, playing archer since ever and ranting on old pve 3rd class buff?
If you guys wanna rant, so go deeper and cry for over all the old buffs ingame yet that in some way or another does unbalance the game: oly buffs sticks, duelist spirit, smart cubic, some old 2nd class archers buff and etc.
I stopped giving a shiet cause this forum is completely dead, only people left posting are trolls and new people asking the same questions over and over, everynow and then i come here to argue with stupid posts when im bored, problem? :p
Anyhow, my transission to forum troll is almost complete, i am just missing a MLP avatar and im good to go! :D
Where were you nobs, when we were posting about Mystic Immunity, Spirit of Shilen, DA reflect?
Certainly you weren't here, so this is what you get for being passive homos. Go buy more NCoins to release the stream, there is an "event" running you know xD