Yea, summoners do get Naviarope at 95 but I think he's talking about other transformatiaons. Kind of interested in this myself. Maybe Ferine or Aysnja will chime in here. :D
Once you complete this quest, you can learn all kind of transformations from npc Transformation Wizard Avant-Garde in the Ivory Tower, 2nd floor (Human).
Reward of "More Than Meets The Eye" quest is the Transformation Sealbook: Onyx Beast.
With this Sealbook, you can learn transformation Onyx Beast.
For each transformation you need the corresponding Sealbook.
I love the Saber Tooth Tiger transformation, I can bite ;)
At level 95 You can learn Spirit of Nabiarov skill.
This skill transforms you into Nabiarov and you use his powerful skills for a period of time.
I've been keeping quiet to let other people get a word in sometimes. :P
As BlueEyes said, you can get lots of different transforms via the sealbooks, they usually last 30 minutes and have a 6h re-use (If I remember Correctly).
One thing to note is that different transforms give different P.atk boosts. For example the Doom Wrath and others give decent p.atk, whereas ones like the Unicorn give terrible p.atk. Though I do find it funny to run round as a unicorn. They all also have different skills, most of which are useless, but some do help.
The level 95 Nabirov transform is the best as it gives the most p.atk, boosted defense and allows you to use heal etc on your pets, it also has a 10 min duration and 1h re-use (need to confirm this).
In general I've found transform useless outside of raids with parties. When theres other people about to debuff the boss, give extra buffs and heal you then you can do some amazing damage in transform, otherwise you're better off keeping servitor link and marks up.
...it also has a 10 min duration and 1h re-use (need to confirm this).
Confirmed.
I still don't see what all the fuss is about summoners, granted I haven't really been back on mine since I got 100 on it. Been on my main which is feoh and closing in on 103. I plan on back to it after. My AP tree is focused entirely on warrior. My tats are now (2) Str +4 Cha +2 and (1) Str +5. Don't see any sense in going through the expense of getting a +8 light set since my robe set is +8 bloody. Just don't see nearly the damage from my pets vs what I do on my feoh (which isn't saying much) and I spam all my skills. I've never used the Naviarope transform.
I still don't see what all the fuss is about summoners, granted I haven't really been back on mine since I got 100 on it. Been on my main which is feoh and closing in on 103. I plan on back to it after. My AP tree is focused entirely on warrior. My tats are now (2) Str +4 Cha +2 and (1) Str +5. Don't see any sense in going through the expense of getting a +8 light set since my robe set is +8 bloody. Just don't see nearly the damage from my pets vs what I do on my feoh (which isn't saying much) and I spam all my skills. I've never used the Naviarope transform.
The big bonus comes from the transfer of PvE from a weapon. Other than that the transformation does increase the damage but I'm not 100% sure that it does better than marks and the special buff.
I have almost all transforms skills in one of my Iss dualclass, and I only lack the 'rare' ones, like Demon Prince, Anakim - from raids - and no-dropable anymore, like BladerDoll, Mahum, Herectic etc.
What I've observed is that some transforms seem do have some kind of hidden dmg ability, even according to the weapon equiped. I.e: Onix Beast has the best crit rate/chance/dmg when compared to others, even Dragon Bomber, what is too a rogue-type transform, while Unicorn have the best attack speed (good to pair it with ranged summons), and Magma Drake has good defensive abilities, even an semi-UD skills to be used - but cant move.
So sometimes while doing instance, ie. Kartia, I go for transform while under BR and if healer is reactive enough, I care to stay near raid to get some dmg and proc CC, then watch summons rip off raw dmg out of nowhere for those brief period of time. But if I cant stand the dmg for CC proc, or havent another wynn in party for keep marks up, I give up and stay as usual summoner as everybody else.
Just want to add..
Naviarope transform CD is affected by items and buffs, with everything possible (evas rune, jewelry, wizard, augment etc) the CD is 17 minutes.
Enchanted at 10+, the transform itself lasts 12 min and 30 sec.
And since you compared transform with marks etc.. well
Better gear you have - the better transform is.
For example with 12+ pve bow, str dyes etc etc..
Normal P. Atk for me is 23k.
My P. Atk on pets is 37k normally.
With naviarope, I get 46k and they get 55k P. Atk.
Since physical damage increase is linear with P. Atk, thats a 100% damage boost for me, and a 50% damage boost per pet.
i.e say "normal damage" is 5k dmg for me, 10k per pet.
With transform, that would be 10k dmg for me and 15k per pet.
If I would go untransformed, my damage would be far from what I am making with transform, even if i spam marks + keep link up.
Maybe at lower levels it is better to spam marks, but if you get decent gear transform is way better.
Just want to add..
Naviarope transform CD is affected by items and buffs, with everything possible (evas rune, jewelry, wizard, augment etc) the CD is 17 minutes.
Enchanted at 10+, the transform itself lasts 12 min and 30 sec.
And since you compared transform with marks etc.. well
Better gear you have - the better transform is.
For example with 12+ pve bow, str dyes etc etc..
Normal P. Atk for me is 23k.
My P. Atk on pets is 37k normally.
With naviarope, I get 46k and they get 55k P. Atk.
Since physical damage increase is linear with P. Atk, thats a 100% damage boost for me, and a 50% damage boost per pet.
i.e say "normal damage" is 5k dmg for me, 10k per pet.
With transform, that would be 10k dmg for me and 15k per pet.
If I would go untransformed, my damage would be far from what I am making with transform, even if i spam marks + keep link up.
Maybe at lower levels it is better to spam marks, but if you get decent gear transform is way better.
Yeah thats what I was wondering if the transform damage could keep up with link up. Mark damage is meh really, just the link is the game changer, mainly critical damage.
I'm a Pony summoner duel and the critical damage modifier is huge. I use a s80 armor set with a tauti axe to max out critical rate as much as possible. I forget what my crit rate is on my pets but I know its above 500 with link at level 5.
This is one of those things that is VERY hard to test, but I know if you are running SOS with a Bloody retributer in transform that more than tips the scales. ;)
Yeah thats what I was wondering if the transform damage could keep up with link up. Mark damage is meh really, just the link is the game changer, mainly critical damage.
I'm a Pony summoner duel and the critical damage modifier is huge. I use a s80 armor set with a tauti axe to max out critical rate as much as possible. I forget what my crit rate is on my pets but I know its above 500 with link at level 5.
This is one of those things that is VERY hard to test, but I know if you are running SOS with a Bloody retributer in transform that more than tips the scales. ;)
True, SOS with retri is OP.
About link & testing.. well it isnt that hard really, its all linear :)
Link lv. 5 increases P. Atk by 15% and critical damage by 15%.
(Critical rate is increased by 15% - about +25 critical rate so not worth to mention)
So, as it is all linear - link is the same thing as 30% increase of P. Atk..
Transform gives my pets a 50% increase, clear winner :)
(Also it allows my character to attack with much higher damage aswell, pretty much like gaining one whole pet)
Throw dual berserkers rage into the mix (only triggers when your character hits), and transform is REALLY OP.
It goes on both pets + yourself, so pets get 27% P. Atk from the buff itself then another 18% cause of servitor share :D
About link & testing.. well it isnt that hard really, its all linear :)
Link lv. 5 increases P. Atk by 15% and critical damage by 15%.
(Critical rate is increased by 15% - about +25 critical rate so not worth to mention)
So, as it is all linear - link is the same thing as 30% increase of P. Atk..
Transform gives my pets a 50% increase, clear winner :)
(Also it allows my character to attack with much higher damage aswell, pretty much like gaining one whole pet)
Throw dual berserkers rage into the mix (only triggers when your character hits), and transform is REALLY OP.
It goes on both pets + yourself, so pets get 27% P. Atk from the buff itself then another 18% cause of servitor share :D
Yesterday I changed dual skills from p. attack to berserker rage + lvl 1 p. attack, it is pretty awesome while transformed. BR+Savage+pet rage+berserker rage and got something like 120-130k p. attack on pets, almost 500 crit rate and 1500 attack speed, even with gimp +4 retri. LF bloody OE retri and SOS+POM ;D
Yesterday I changed dual skills from p. attack to berserker rage + lvl 1 p. attack, it is pretty awesome while transformed. BR+Savage+pet rage+berserker rage and got something like 120-130k p. attack on pets, almost 500 crit rate and 1500 attack speed, even with gimp +4 retri. LF bloody OE retri and SOS+POM ;D
silly question, but:
does dual skill berserker rage triggers when you use marks or you have to use auto attack to trigger?
silly question, but:
does dual skill berserker rage triggers when you use marks or you have to use auto attack to trigger?
I think it is only auto attack, at least never noticed it triggers with marks or link.
But anyway it is nice, while transformed it is pretty much always up and w/o transform I link, mark and then hit, it triggers often. And when you are hitting in close range, you get CC too.
I think it is only auto attack, at least never noticed it triggers with marks or link.
But anyway it is nice, while transformed it is pretty much always up and w/o transform I link, mark and then hit, it triggers often. And when you are hitting in close range, you get CC too.
thought so (that it triggers only on auto attack)
hard to tell for me, to keep up all marks and link5 I have to link and mark all the time, no time to run after rb's and auto attack, link, 2 marks, link, 2 marks, link, and so on. Maybe on helios when link is triggered by marks alone it will change.
counter critical actually works on servitors them selves as well, they alone (these that hit in close range) get it when they are being hit - you don't need to be close. I prefer to be outside of RB's range so when they stun/sleep/fear/etc I can cleanse them if de buff came shortly after healer mass cleansed from previous one.
will revise my strategy after new update, thanks for info
thought so (that it triggers only on auto attack)
hard to tell for me, to keep up all marks and link5 I have to link and mark all the time, no time to run after rb's and auto attack, link, 2 marks, link, 2 marks, link, and so on. Maybe on helios when link is triggered by marks alone it will change.
counter critical actually works on servitors them selves as well, they alone (these that hit in close range) get it when they are being hit - you don't need to be close. I prefer to be outside of RB's range so when they stun/sleep/fear/etc I can cleanse them if de buff came shortly after healer mass cleansed from previous one.
will revise my strategy after new update, thanks for info
I use mostly ranged summons, except in tauti and balok. Link, marks and then autoattack. I recast link when 2 secs left on it. Transform is best tho, just watching :D
I use mostly ranged summons, except in tauti and balok. Link, marks and then autoattack. I recast link when 2 secs left on it. Transform is best tho, just watching :D
but link isn't 100% land, and it's not visible on main buff's page, I prefer to see servitor's debuffs then link lvl (since the icon is bloody small), and link 5 stays only 10 seconds, with land rate about 30%, there is not much time to spare for chasing rb's.
but link isn't 100% land, and it's not visible on main buff's page, I prefer to see servitor's debuffs then link lvl (since the icon is bloody small), and link 5 stays only 10 seconds, with land rate about 30%, there is not much time to spare for chasing rb's.
any way, thanks for input
link is 100%, but it lands only if 5 sec or less remaining, before that it is useless to cast again.
Yesterday I changed dual skills from p. attack to berserker rage + lvl 1 p. attack, it is pretty awesome while transformed. BR+Savage+pet rage+berserker rage and got something like 120-130k p. attack on pets, almost 500 crit rate and 1500 attack speed, even with gimp +4 retri. LF bloody OE retri and SOS+POM ;D
What is the buff on the second bar 4th from the end with 12 seconds left on it? That's the only one I don't recognize because I'm guessing its a 101 buff. Nice attack power btw, I would love to see what you do with SoS buff on top of all of that.
I dunno if its just me but doesn't your pets Critical Rate seem a bit low? I think mines normally stay about about 570 or so but that might be from the servitor passive buff thingy from elemental attack. I don't think mine are at 570 in transform though, I'll have to look.
nice stats but dmg is low:D
as i see you with bow and have giant cw
on my screen is r99 retri +4 :eek:
with that setup and slightly differ buffs(no sonatas) im makin about 1.2-1.4kk dmg to tauti w/o giants ls or pve weapons ++++ :cool:
What is the buff on the second bar 4th from the end with 12 seconds left on it? That's the only one I don't recognize because I'm guessing its a 101 buff. Nice attack power btw, I would love to see what you do with SoS buff on top of all of that.
I dunno if its just me but doesn't your pets Critical Rate seem a bit low? I think mines normally stay about about 570 or so but that might be from the servitor passive buff thingy from elemental attack. I don't think mine are at 570 in transform though, I'll have to look.
Spectrals call, 101 wynn buff.
Each class have a different one, this is +20% p atk to me, and +20% p atk and 20% crit dmg to pets :)
And no idea about your critical rate, is possible you have some unique skill for it, like my spectral call
nice stats but dmg is low:D
as i see you with bow and have giant cw
on my screen is r99 retri +4 :eek:
with that setup and slightly differ buffs(no sonatas) im makin about 1.2-1.4kk dmg to tauti w/o giants ls or pve weapons ++++ :cool:
Damage is low yes, missing a few things there for "top damage", just wanted to show 'normal' stats :D
But your 1.2m-1.4m damage sounds too high if you only have regular 4+ R99 retri, it shouldnt stack up that high even if you have SOS + giant weakness, sounds like a lie! :rolleyes:
Screenshot or I dont believe you :o
And no idea about your critical rate, is possible you have some unique skill for it, like my spectral call
max crit rate for master is 500 - no matter transformation or normal
for pets max is 650
But your 1.2m-1.4m damage sounds too high if you only have regular 4+ R99 retri, it shouldnt stack up that high even if you have SOS + giant weakness, sounds like a lie! :rolleyes:
Screenshot or I dont believe you :o
sos + something "secret buffs" that all know but noone use :D
just slightly more crit power buffs and you will get rly great peak dmg even with trash gear:p (most expensive thing i have - aq soul ring )
crit power >>> patack stats )
max crit rate for master is 500 - no matter transformation or normal
for pets max is 650
sos + something "secret buffs" that all know but noone use :D
just slightly more crit power buffs and you will get rly great peak dmg even with trash gear:p (most expensive thing i have - aq soul ring )
crit power >>> patack stats )
P. Atk is the same boost as Crit power, i.e 40% p atk is the same dmg boost as 40% crit dmg.
But even with this +40% crit damage buff you speak off, your damage sounds way too high.
Comparing your old screenshot, I assume your normal damage on tauti would be around 100k, so by applying some boosts..
2x higher with critical increase buff = 200k
2x higher with sos retri effect = 400k
1.3x higher with SOS P. Atk boost = 520k
40% "secret buff" crit power boost = 728k.
Again, screenshot please :D
If by any chance its higher than that I would like to take a look :p
P. Atk is the same boost as Crit power, i.e 40% p atk is the same dmg boost as 40% crit dmg.
But even with this +40% crit damage buff you speak off, your damage sounds way too high.
Comparing your old screenshot, I assume your normal damage on tauti would be around 100k, so by applying some boosts..
2x higher with critical increase buff = 200k
2x higher with sos retri effect = 400k
1.3x higher with SOS P. Atk boost = 520k
40% "secret buff" crit power boost = 728k.
Again, screenshot please :D
If by any chance its higher than that I would like to take a look :p
you forgot that blunt has -/+20% dmg dispersion
and there are one more 35% crit power boost in game
you forgot that blunt has -/+20% dmg dispersion
and there are one more 35% crit power boost in game
Actually there is more than just a 35% crit power boost as well. I can stack 40% on top of that, but it doesn't last long, no one uses it ever either.
What about the unawakened pony buff? I think that adds critical rate and damage although I have never tested it.
2nd question. I currently have a Elemental master awakened at 99 but looking at my 101 skill for the thing it sucks so I wanna switch class, buying a Chaos Essance am I going to keep all of my unawakened pony summons and then chance my 85+ summons to DE summons?
Never tried it, but I am pretty sure all of those doesnt stack with melody/harmony.
What buffs?
Actually you are right, I never noticed I guess because I don't use it that often, Also didn't notice that unawakend I was a cat summer who awoke as a Elemental Master. lol old toon. The buff is Blessing of Queen and it doesn't stack with Sonatas however it does give a larger Pattack boost than sonatas do but attack speed would be reduced to a point where I don't think the benefit would work.
As far as the other buff goes, its a single buff that adds 40% crit damage and rate. :) If someone figures it out please don't spill the beans, its a little bit of a secret. If you can't figure it out, mail me on Auburn on Chronos, I like sharing.
Gimp imo! Well dunno what server is, but anyway :D
Checking the video now, easy to see he is using sos who combined with blunt 2hands/retributer bring 100% c. damage bonus.
But he use blessing of queen who give 35% critikal damage too Oo i know u cant use with full iss bufs but maybe removing some buff u can use incresing ur dps Oo need test.
Maybe combinating hierophant 3rd class buffs + cat buff, stigma work if u level shilien saint to lv99 w/o awakened there lot of little tricks who u can explode, the buff 5 minuts from gog 35-40% critikal power no remember exactly etc etc.
Problem appetite of destruction only have 15 sec duration with 300 sec cooldown.
As well as the fact that if you didn't make a judicator a VERY long time ago it is now impossible to get it past level 80 to go in any top instances, so its useless to about 99.9% of people.
So new question regarding this topic. If I were building a summoner for Transform Damage only because I have enough Zaken Transform scrolls to last me until I'm level 110 or so, what SA's would you put on your retributers? I was thinking Critical Damage of 7% from level 5 Kain and then Might and Critical Damage from Leona. Anyone have any opinions on what would do the best for SA and why?
So new question regarding this topic. If I were building a summoner for Transform Damage only because I have enough Zaken Transform scrolls to last me until I'm level 110 or so, what SA's would you put on your retributers? I was thinking Critical Damage of 7% from level 5 Kain and then Might and Critical Damage from Leona. Anyone have any opinions on what would do the best for SA and why?
Sounds solid.
If you use SOS (With 2h blunt) = SAs for yourself, i.e critical damage, so your setup would be good.
If you dont use SOS/Use it with bow for example = SA for pets, i.e as much P. Atk as possible (to get higher stats on pets - crit dmg doesnt really transfer)
Checking the video now, easy to see he is using sos who combined with blunt 2hands/retributer bring 100% c. damage bonus.
But he use blessing of queen who give 35% critikal damage too Oo i know u cant use with full iss bufs but maybe removing some buff u can use incresing ur dps Oo need test.
Maybe combinating hierophant 3rd class buffs + cat buff, stigma work if u level shilien saint to lv99 w/o awakened there lot of little tricks who u can explode, the buff 5 minuts from gog 35-40% critikal power no remember exactly etc etc.
Are you sure stigma works on high lvl bosses? I thought that was patched.