Till lvl 97 i think all is kind of clean, I mean you reached 85 and can farm kartia/mini earth wyrm(forgot name)/freya and zaken with items you got and throw this instances you get gear which you need...
After at lvl 93 you can farm Istina/fortuna/spezion/spicula/kartia90 with items you have and get items which you need...
Ofc drop chance bad, instances hard... bla bla bla :P But its up to you, and all is clear...
You reached 95 and can farm octavis/kartia 95/epic spezion...
Just need seraph set + apo weap 300 with 2 sa to not have problems on these instances...
Actually ppl must agree that its possible...
You reached lvl 97, and yes cool you can go instances such like balok, cc, baylor again not hard...
To farm epic istina/octavis or norm/epic tauti actually need clan but again its possible with items you alr have... Ofc if you are clan,,,
Problems start at 99 lvl...
Ok throw all instances below you got r99 set, r99 weap 300 1 sa, some oly jewels/octavis jewels...
And now you can go k99/gainak/gludio/mystic/kelbim/dragons and etc...
BUT HERE IS PROBLEM!
1)k99 only exp based instance...
2)mystic taverns (if forget that its funny/and this nosense incomplete stories) is no better than cc+baylor in exp and way worse than balok as drop...
+ it kill vp on purpose!
3)You go gludio to get shadow weapons as instance purpose! BUT TO GO GLUDIO YOU NEED WEAPON AT LEAST SHADOW OR BETTER AND EVEN BETTER SET/JEWELS, JUST TO NOT DIE THERE FROM 1 HIT...
where is logic?! I till now remember how i got 254k damage from unit 4 commander xD Till now it hurt... :(
4)Gainak, well no matter is there 0,1% donators or 5% donators!
THEY ALL THERE!! AND YOU HAVE NO CHANCE THERE!! Same is kelbim, same is dragons... no one will let get them...
Ok you got decent gear from all instance till 97... but whats next?
what exactly to do? :P
Sadly, yes. Play for fun(if you find any), for friends, or get another MMO.
I personally would leave already, but still have some nice guys(real life friends) in game, they want me here, so...
Well first the fun could be to pk some1, only him/her, every time he/she logs in with every toon he/she logs in :p
The best is if u have a secondary toon in his/her clan :D
Just to be sure HE/SHE quits not u. That's why i'm still lurking in here :cool:
Secondly u could join some of the major clans that may grant access to that zones. Eg. Naia DH, but only if Oz is in a good mood the day u talk with him :rolleyes:
Its becoming rather fun to re explaining for a guys such as "deadonlin? " hm...
Well pretty sure that you are donator... Its mean that you use
1)+300% xp runes!
2)access to unlimited r95++ gear only throw aps... (Its mean duo/trio kartias)
3)pt cakes + entrance passes for kartia/baylor every day!
For you 99 lvl is really easy... But not for norm players... So just keep your opinion...
Look once again about what am i talking...
Norm octavis/istina, spezion, fortuna, cc, baylor, balok, mystic taverns... give
rune stones, bless enchant scrolls, r/r95/r99 packs , sa crystals, lowest chance to get istina/octavis jewelry or underwear...
AND THIS IS ALL! Amount of this items drop IS LOW, 1 octavis more than likely give just 1 rune for 7 poor players!
There is also epic octavis/istina or norm tauti but it need norm clan :s
Ok you ***** yourself to get lvl 99 and buy r95 set oly jewels and apo weap 300 2 sa... after you ***** yourself to the bones to get r99 set and maybe r99 weapon 300 1 sa(class specific)
You suicide to get octavis jewelrys and underwear!
Omg you did this all...
But after you need 4 lvl 4+ jewels diamond and etc...
You need talisman abudance hunter and some others...
You need shadow/kelbim weapons or toons of adena to prepare r99 one( btw r99 better)
You need bloody/dark stones
You need epics....
Overall price in adena of items you need after you suicided is 10+ times more than items you took before,,,
So what to do?! continue bothering octavis/istina/balok for this?! OMG!
And its while you need to make set/jewels/weapon at least +8!! Ha ha ha?!
And for what if maybe no one even sell you them!
Donators farming gainak if its real clan for what will they sell stones?!
Too boost other players?!
You need shadow weaps you go gludio and got *****! ... while you all agree that even if you got 20 +0 shadow weaps and 200 scrolls lol not fact that you success at least one to +10...
You need kelbim, but no access...
Same epics/dragons...
And no way at all to get talismans and jewels such as diamonds and etc...
1)i get 300% exp during Dragon Buff+ Maphr
2) 2 i dont even use r95
3)i dont use any entrance passes or cakes on a daily base if i use in AF its a shared cake 10kk each.
I reached 99lv in group EV prior boosted experience.
Dont get it:
``There is also epic octavis/istina or norm tauti but it need norm clan``
Its your own problem that you`re not even accepted in a clan which is capable to do normal tauti.
``But after you need 4 lvl 4+ jewels diamond and etc...``
Majority of the people dont even have it but they can do all instances without any issues.
Also if you dont put any effort to look for a clan - too lazy to do gainak(if cant due to 97lv at least you should be in Elven and farm the gear till you can equip yourself.
Also if you could state your server it would be easier to understand the current situation.
Till lvl 97 i think all is kind of clean, I mean you reached 85 and can farm kartia/mini earth wyrm(forgot name)/freya and zaken with items you got and throw this instances you get gear which you need...
After at lvl 93 you can farm Istina/fortuna/spezion/spicula/kartia90 with items you have and get items which you need...
Ofc drop chance bad, instances hard... bla bla bla :P But its up to you, and all is clear...
You reached 95 and can farm octavis/kartia 95/epic spezion...
Just need seraph set + apo weap 300 with 2 sa to not have problems on these instances...
Actually ppl must agree that its possible...
You reached lvl 97, and yes cool you can go instances such like balok, cc, baylor again not hard...
To farm epic istina/octavis or norm/epic tauti actually need clan but again its possible with items you alr have... Ofc if you are clan,,,
Problems start at 99 lvl...
Ok throw all instances below you got r99 set, r99 weap 300 1 sa, some oly jewels/octavis jewels...
And now you can go k99/gainak/gludio/mystic/kelbim/dragons and etc...
BUT HERE IS PROBLEM!
1)k99 only exp based instance...
2)mystic taverns (if forget that its funny/and this nosense incomplete stories) is no better than cc+baylor in exp and way worse than balok as drop...
+ it kill vp on purpose!
3)You go gludio to get shadow weapons as instance purpose! BUT TO GO GLUDIO YOU NEED WEAPON AT LEAST SHADOW OR BETTER AND EVEN BETTER SET/JEWELS, JUST TO NOT DIE THERE FROM 1 HIT...
where is logic?! I till now remember how i got 254k damage from unit 4 commander xD Till now it hurt... :(
4)Gainak, well no matter is there 0,1% donators or 5% donators!
THEY ALL THERE!! AND YOU HAVE NO CHANCE THERE!! Same is kelbim, same is dragons... no one will let get them...
Ok you got decent gear from all instance till 97... but whats next?
what exactly to do? :P
......
L2 is not for the very poor.
If you are poor dont play L2.
If you dont have good patience for a few months to build to become strong, dont't play L2.
If you cannot handle others paying more money than you, don't play L2.
If you complain a lot and can't handle the last hardcore MMORPG left don't play L2.
First those were the original WhasD'2 words.
Me and my friends have been playing on Zaken 8 months and bought about $2000 in L2 store stuff each of us in the 1st 6 months. so over 6 month thats 300$ per month, on a big time hobby that is a lot now? 1 good hotel room cost on weekend is $200. haha.
I absolutely wreck people on my 101 PR at siege. Its very fun now. it took months of my time to level, grind up k90/k95/k99 but i finally make it. didnt use any powerlevel just XP item. slowly built my gears, finally get my +11 dark bow, eternal set +8 etc.
Sorry if you cant afford $300 a month. i havnt even now bought anything for 2 months now that my gear is done :D So now i have to pay $15. now i make adena ingame to pay for things.
L2 does cost money, even if you pay $150 a month, you can build a good char easily, but a bit longer time. L2 is not just a game its a hobby. Of course some players can spend $4000 a month, so what? many of these guys just look for gamble on gear/events/enchant or maybe play siege. they dont even grind at gainak or do world pvp or other events.
Archers are strong? MAKE AN ARCHER. 2/5 people in my RL CP are PR 101 we can kill the people who spend 10k+ USD
L2 is not for the very poor.
If you are poor dont play L2.
If you dont have good patience for a few months to build to become strong, dont't play L2.
If you cannot handle others paying more money than you, don't play L2.
If you complain a lot and can't handle the last hardcore MMORPG left don't play L2.
Second. He/she should be 12 years old or the like
1. No serious worker can afford 300 bucks a month expecially if he has a girlfriend and a real life or she has a boyfriend and a real life. No word if he is like 20 years old and has a wife. Wanna c what the wife will tell him the second day he plays L2 12 hours.
2. If he/she works he/she simply can't play L2 12 hours x day as stated cuz he/she will be fired the day after by his/her boss.
3. 300x6=1.800 bucks not 2k. Guess some1 has serious problems with maths and can count only till +12.
4. If he/she doesn't work and plays L2 12 hour x day x 7 days where is the money coming from? Mommy's credit card.
So the rules should be:
A] L2 is not for ppl that don't have enough time, say 5 hours x day, to play it
B] If you don't have 5 spare hours x day dont play L2.
C] If you don't have good patience for a few years to become strong, don't play L2.
D] If you cannot handle others paying more money till their mommy checks the bills from the bank, don't play L2. :D
E] About the last rule "If you complain a lot and can't handle the last hardcore MMORPG left don't play L2", plz push the on button on your head's rear and try again.
L2 has always been a matter of time not a matter of who spends more to quit faster. See some Core players who worked, spended like 1k bucks x month and quitted in 6 months when achieved everything. It's far way better to don't have folks like this in the friend list, figure it out if they were in your clan. The day be4 they are lvl 103 full geared ... the day after when the clan needs him, he's gone. Prolly cuz his mommy checked the bills :rolleyes:
Last but not least
The fastest way to translate real money to adena is to buy nm kama passes and sell em for 25-30kk each. 100 nm kama passes = 50 bucks= 2.5-3 billions
18 bill x month x 6 months and u will have enough to buy a dark bow but, for sure, not what WhasD seems to have in his inv.
2 cents
To Deadonline...
Server zaken
Main char lvl 99 othell lvl 95 dual lvl 80 subs fully certificated, 16 aps, r99 set, bless apo weap 300 2 sa, oly jewels, octavis neklace+earring...
also lvl 99 healer r 95 set + weap with 2 sa , lvl 82 dual dod (baium one)
lvl 98 iss char
2 lvl 89/91 catgirl chars lilith/anakim ones
lvl 85 sos box
lvl 85 yul (donno for what :p )
lvl 42 aq box ...
To batrus...
1)Games not for poor are not free in generally,,, you pay per month just for play there... so ****!
2)Not you bussiness (again)
3)I already played 6 month my gear cost 10kkk Donators Gear cost 500kkk
I need 2-3 years to reach it if continue like that... , Just for what new update, new sets/items and again Donators like raid bosses?!
4)I not care if they pay more... Btw i not pay at all for pixels on purpose!
I not care if they will be stronger than me... really! but not 20 times stronger!!! Too much difference!
5)Its impossible to handle America tp parnasus and your pt down in next 1 sec cuz of 1 his aoe...
I see all clear now - yes Zaken is different - the server is which received The Hungry Horse Event wit highest chance to obtain Kelb/Tauti etc way too soon when in reality it should be pushed only on a developed server so a lot of people just bought their gear basically during it and maphr scrolls leveled mainly the server.
To Deadonline...
Server zaken
Main char lvl 99 othell lvl 95 dual lvl 80 subs fully certificated, 16 aps, r99 set, bless apo weap 300 2 sa, oly jewels, octavis neklace+earring...
also lvl 99 healer r 95 set + weap with 2 sa , lvl 82 dual dod (baium one)
lvl 98 iss char
2 lvl 89/91 catgirl chars lilith/anakim ones
lvl 85 sos box
lvl 85 yul (donno for what :p )
lvl 42 aq box ...
To batrus...
1)Games not for poor are not free in generally,,, you pay per month just for play there... so ****!
2)Not you bussiness (again)
3)I already played 6 month my gear cost 10kkk Donators Gear cost 500kkk
I need 2-3 years to reach it if continue like that... , Just for what new update, new sets/items and again Donators like raid bosses?!
4)I not care if they pay more... Btw i not pay at all for pixels on purpose!
I not care if they will be stronger than me... really! but not 20 times stronger!!! Too much difference!
5)Its impossible to handle America tp parnasus and your pt down in next 1 sec cuz of 1 his aoe...
1,2,3) reread bro what ppl write here and try to think about all that thing, you are close!
4) looks like you not just care, you are bring here rivers of tears
5) why you talk about 1 sec if you 1 shot any way ? difference in auto/non auto pvp matter only when you can survive and fight at least 2 mins, right now just go back to your game and improve yourself or change clan for pve or game and stop qq
Till lvl 97 i think all is kind of clean, I mean you reached 85 and can farm kartia/mini earth wyrm(forgot name)/freya and zaken with items you got and throw this instances you get gear which you need...
After at lvl 93 you can farm Istina/fortuna/spezion/spicula/kartia90 with items you have and get items which you need...
Ofc drop chance bad, instances hard... bla bla bla :P But its up to you, and all is clear...
You reached 95 and can farm octavis/kartia 95/epic spezion...
Just need seraph set + apo weap 300 with 2 sa to not have problems on these instances...
Actually ppl must agree that its possible...
You reached lvl 97, and yes cool you can go instances such like balok, cc, baylor again not hard...
To farm epic istina/octavis or norm/epic tauti actually need clan but again its possible with items you alr have... Ofc if you are clan,,,
Problems start at 99 lvl...
Ok throw all instances below you got r99 set, r99 weap 300 1 sa, some oly jewels/octavis jewels...
And now you can go k99/gainak/gludio/mystic/kelbim/dragons and etc...
BUT HERE IS PROBLEM!
1)k99 only exp based instance...
2)mystic taverns (if forget that its funny/and this nosense incomplete stories) is no better than cc+baylor in exp and way worse than balok as drop...
+ it kill vp on purpose!
3)You go gludio to get shadow weapons as instance purpose! BUT TO GO GLUDIO YOU NEED WEAPON AT LEAST SHADOW OR BETTER AND EVEN BETTER SET/JEWELS, JUST TO NOT DIE THERE FROM 1 HIT...
where is logic?! I till now remember how i got 254k damage from unit 4 commander xD Till now it hurt... :(
4)Gainak, well no matter is there 0,1% donators or 5% donators!
THEY ALL THERE!! AND YOU HAVE NO CHANCE THERE!! Same is kelbim, same is dragons... no one will let get them...
Ok you got decent gear from all instance till 97... but whats next?
what exactly to do? :P
Find at last one good friend and start farm low lvl raid boss around 93-94. For a 2 week you will have enough adena to buy some r99 set with atribute.
L2 is nice game but if you want to be good you need:
1: A lot time to spend in game.
2: a lot of money.
I don't have money for the game, but i'm fired from work so i have a lot of time. :cool:
So many years passed, nothing changed lol...
Still if you complain even about in game drop/pvp/pve related things which 100% need complain... you still alone vs numerous trolls donators and etc...
And why am i doing it? :P...
About last reply...
GZ man GZ you are pro, really?!
Focus on lvl 91-94 rb s ... cool ... They drop r95 packs with 0,5% chance ?
Cool man...
Or what, you want to say that they all wait you?! That you need 1 friend to handle it?! Come on,,,,
To kill rb need
1) huge dps
2) good deffence + healing (especially if rb has minions)
3) you need catch them (which is f... hard)
If you gather ppl who need them, need 1 constant pt focused on rbs lol (Its mean that they must all only farm rbs) If you pm to guy and he answer : wait man i do kartia ... its fail... + you need box es (still not enough for many rbs)
And you will do it and see how 1 evis donator + 1 iss come and take your rb by dps lol...
About its drop... da **** man it worse than normal octavis anyway!!... each rb till top lvl s... Point to farm them?!
Second. He/she should be 12 years old or the like
1. No serious worker can afford 300 bucks a month expecially if he has a girlfriend and a real life or she has a boyfriend and a real life. No word if he is like 20 years old and has a wife. Wanna c what the wife will tell him the second day he plays L2 12 hours.
2. If he/she works he/she simply can't play L2 12 hours x day as stated cuz he/she will be fired the day after by his/her boss.
3. 300x6=1.800 bucks not 2k. Guess some1 has serious problems with maths and can count only till +12.
4. If he/she doesn't work and plays L2 12 hour x day x 7 days where is the money coming from? Mommy's credit card.
So the rules should be:
A] L2 is not for ppl that don't have enough time, say 5 hours x day, to play it
B] If you don't have 5 spare hours x day dont play L2.
C] If you don't have good patience for a few years to become strong, don't play L2.
D] If you cannot handle others paying more money till their mommy checks the bills from the bank, don't play L2. :D
E] About the last rule "If you complain a lot and can't handle the last hardcore MMORPG left don't play L2", plz push the on button on your head's rear and try again.
L2 has always been a matter of time not a matter of who spends more to quit faster. See some Core players who worked, spended like 1k bucks x month and quitted in 6 months when achieved everything. It's far way better to don't have folks like this in the friend list, figure it out if they were in your clan. The day be4 they are lvl 103 full geared ... the day after when the clan needs him, he's gone. Prolly cuz his mommy checked the bills :rolleyes:
Last but not least
The fastest way to translate real money to adena is to buy nm kama passes and sell em for 25-30kk each. 100 nm kama passes = 50 bucks= 2.5-3 billions
18 bill x month x 6 months and u will have enough to buy a dark bow but, for sure, not what WhasD seems to have in his inv.
2 cents
Im a professional poker player and banked over $200,000 in 2011 alone. Online and at casinos too. Playing since 2009. When im done making the $$$ for the day, (I work when I feel like working), then I play L2.
$300 per month is nothing. With $300 I cannot even buy into the poker games I play, they are minimum $1000 to enter.
Sorry I dont live in 3rd world country, I live in Canada. Im not even a rich person here.
Who is playing 12 hours a day? Id say I play average 3-4 hours per day. Also no wife = happy life.
K95-K99 and some Gainak can be 2-3 hours a day. I also like sieges for 2 hours on sunday.
Yeah im 27, not 12, good try though.
$2000 is nothing. You can easily spend more than this, but I CHOOSE not to. I buy what I NEED to compete at PVP and OLY.
Its like playing paintball game, and poor kids complain when some guys bring their own elite guns/masks to play.
L2 forums is always poor people crying about not being able to afford a HOBBY. Hobbies can be EXPENSIVE.
L2 is not a normal game.
If you are poor do not cry or complain, L2 is not for you.
Im a professional poker player and banked over $200,000 in 2011 alone. Online and at casinos too. Playing since 2009. When im done making the $$$ for the day, (I work when I feel like working), then I play L2.
$300 per month is nothing. With $300 I cannot even buy into the poker games I play, they are minimum $1000 to enter.
Sorry I dont live in 3rd world country, I live in Canada. Im not even a rich person here.
Who is playing 12 hours a day? Id say I play average 3-4 hours per day. Also no wife = happy life.
K95-K99 and some Gainak can be 2-3 hours a day. I also like sieges for 2 hours on sunday.
Yeah im 27, not 12, good try though.
$2000 is nothing. You can easily spend more than this, but I CHOOSE not to. I buy what I NEED to compete at PVP and OLY.
Its like playing paintball game, and poor kids complain when some guys bring their own elite guns/masks to play.
L2 forums is always poor people crying about not being able to afford a HOBBY. Hobbies can be EXPENSIVE.
L2 is not a normal game.
If you are poor do not cry or complain, L2 is not for you.