looks like auto repeat macro is first step to integrate bot options to game... without 3rd pt apps. soon we have 'extra features: auto target/radar/script only 2000ncoins'
currently eg.:
hunting solo+iss box - dd kills mobs, iss debuffs:
/target dd_char
/assist
/useskill Crippling Attack
/delay 1
/useskill Shadow Blade
/delay 1
right click on this macro... i never used bot soft, but heard that ppl used such option in l2tower and now it's legit...
+ add macro for dd(in my case wynn) hunting in ev:
/target nymph
/useshortcut 1 4
/useskill Mark of Weakness
/useskill Mark of Void
/useskill Mark of Plague
/useskill Mark of Trick('/useshortcut 1 4' - is pet attack)
full bot, full legit... everything works, tested:D
This is not like a bot at all.For one of you get hit while on the macro, its automation gets cancelled, while a full blown bot won't stop, so it needs user interaction.
Let alone that with macro you cannot anticipate things /events and counter them.
This is not like a bot at all.For one of you get hit while on the macro, its automation gets cancelled, while a full blown bot won't stop, so it needs user interaction.
Let alone that with macro you cannot anticipate things /events and counter them.
Only the death of the character can stop the macro ^_^.
to be very clear these macro's are only to assist while hunting/playing the game with you at the pc looking at the game, the moment you run advanced macro's in a loop without you being there aka in AFK mode and you don't respond when GM's do bot tests you will be treated like any normal bot.
long story short: don't go afk while using macro's - it's not a free card for un monitorized game play.
to be very clear these macro's are only to assist while hunting/playing the game with you at the pc looking at the game, the moment you run advanced macro's in a loop without you being there aka in AFK mode and you don't respond when GM's do bot tests you will be treated like any normal bot.
long story short: don't go afk while using macro's - it's not a free card for un monitorized game play.
Lol draecke ? :D Its game feature i use it as intended. I go afk or not go afk is my personal business. If NCsoft implemented this feature that means they allow it. This is it.
L2 going like MU online way :D
to be very clear these macro's are only to assist while hunting/playing the game with you at the pc looking at the game, the moment you run advanced macro's in a loop without you being there aka in AFK mode and you don't respond when GM's do bot tests you will be treated like any normal bot.
long story short: don't go afk while using macro's - it's not a free card for un monitorized game play.
Stop making the newbies panic !!! :mad: You can go A.F.K. You can go To eat. You can go to sleep or whatever you want, but your character without you is doomed sooner or later. You will never get ban for this. What GM will ban people if they don't answer him, that must be some very professional and this is not how the ban hammer works. You and few others here on forum thinking so small, seriously.
to be very clear these macro's are only to assist while hunting/playing the game with you at the pc looking at the game, the moment you run advanced macro's in a loop without you being there aka in AFK mode and you don't respond when GM's do bot tests you will be treated like any normal bot.
long story short: don't go afk while using macro's - it's not a free card for un monitorized game play.
Soon the forum will be flooded with "IM LEGIT WHY BAN ME"
Lol draecke ? :D Its game feature i use it as intended. I go afk or not go afk is my personal business. If NCsoft implemented this feature that means they allow it. This is it.
L2 going like MU online way :D
do a search on this topic and you will see NC will not condone any type of AFK ingame behavior so don't come QQ here when you get banned if you do ok ;)
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Znippo, is not against the rules.
Based on what you said, even fishing afk would be illegal then.
No, because fishing was made for that exact reason, very different.
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What exactly males you think so? Unless it's cleared by some staff member, as being illegal or not, all a repeated macro does is what it was doing before, but in repeat succession, which is a game feature. They intentionally added this functionality and are well aware that it will be used this way, because it has no other purpose really to repeat macros.
Just because you can do something, doesnt mean its fine.
Alot of words are not censored (i.e gay) ingame, does that mean im allowed to insult people with it?
A repeat macro killing things while you're away from the PC is obviously automated gameplay, something which is against the rules.
For example, you've been able to make these "bot macros" forever, problem has been repeating them.
A macro on your keyboard/mouse which clicks F10 (say your macro is on F10 button) every 20 seconds technically isnt against the rules, shown here.
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The best way to determine if how you are using these devices is a violation or not is by asking yourself "Can a normal keyboard/mouse combination replicate the same behavior?" If how you are using the programmable device can be done through a regular mouse/keyboard combination, then you won't have anything to worry about.
However, it was still still against the rules, since you're automating gameplay.
So, the ingame macro = fine
keyboard macro = fine
Outcome = not fine.
If you all think they made repeatable macros for the sole purpose of creating "legit bots" you're all delusional.
Of course I hope I am wrong, I would love to grind giants cave all days while I'm at work.
I tested your macro, but there was a problem for me, before killing the 1 st mob, i change my target to another mob...
Count how fast you kill each mob. For example you kill a mob for 10 seconds, so in the end of the macro write command /delay 10. This will make 10 seconds delay before you take the next target.
do a search on this topic and you will see NC will not condone any type of AFK ingame behavior so don't come QQ here when you get banned if you do ok ;)
Znipoo explained it more clearly:
You and Znipoo almost said that NCsoft create this macro only to ban the players who use it. If Ncsoft wanted us to stay behind the PC they focking wouldnt create automated macro !!! There is not automated macro the old one which makes you stay behind the PC always. http://i.imgur.com/OkWiyPn.gif
You and Znipoo only talk some nonsense about this macro.
Of course I hope I am wrong, I would love to grind giants cave all days while I'm at work.
Good luck with macro afk in GC :) . Unless you have very well geared full party of 7 pplz maco set and rdy. Which is very unlikely . This afk macro is very limited even it is possible to set up but its soooo far away from ZR magic. That it will do negligible impact at all.
So chill and do this auto macro and im 100% sure Juji will not touch anyones toon who use it. Im simply 100% sure about it.
Good luck with macro afk in GC :) . Unless you have very well geared full party of 7 pplz maco set and rdy. Which is very unlikely . This afk macro is very limited even it is possible to set up but its soooo far away from ZR magic. That it will do negligible impact at all.
So chill and do this auto macro and im 100% sure Juji will not touch anyones toon who use it. Im simply 100% sure about it.
No problem at all, those mobs does not really hurt me (although i havent really been to the deepest levels yet, but who cares? exp is decent for AFKing at "spawn").
Wynn/Yul as DD, iss as support (debuff & buff).
3rd toon out of party, which will be used as an "anchor". (In DD and Iss macro they will run to this character (location) to prevent them from getting stuck))
If need be, I can easily setup another 3 toons on my laptop for out of party debuff, and occasional chain heal. :D
You and Znipoo almost said that NCsoft create this macro only to ban the players who use it. If Ncsoft wanted us to stay behind the PC they focking wouldnt create automated macro !!! There is not automated macro the old one which makes you stay behind the PC always.
So you believe they made this feature for the sole purpose of allowing us to legitimately bot? :p
a lot of ex-bot/bot wannabees are looking for a valid excuse to hide their afk farming on regardless of if they use these ingame macro's or bot progs and obviously on the next bot ban wave many "legits" will come here QQ how they "only" used ingame macro's etc. and had no idea afk xp wasn't allowed blah blah..
If you go afk xp'ing, you are botting, it's that simple, it is bannable. At higher levelsI don't see it working out well so I doubt we'll hear of many bans.
Oh c'mon guys. We all know the ban waves (laughable as they were) are over for another year. They banned some people. Gave them a 3 then 5 day ban and a slap on their hands and they're back again. Big frellling deal.
The macros are a joke. As soon as you use another skill or click on the ground to move it stops. Totally useless. Keep trying to justify your cheating. There is a guy with the name volcano on ranger forums crying for days for a ranger admin to say something about current of ranger. Ncsoft needs to give perma bans next round if there is a next round.
Using the Repeat Macro Function as intended is not prohibited.
Added Repeat Macro function.
After assigning a macro to a shortcut, right-clicking the mouse repeats the macro.
While the macro is being repeated, performing another action stops the macro.
Macros made up of chat only can no longer be repeated.
For standard macros, it will repeat only 1 macro at a time (no nesting macros in macros) and game window interaction (clicking/using any other actions) will shut off the auto macro.
Would you please elaborate?
Would you be allowed to go AFK (sleep) while your char is hunting monsters for you, using a repeated macro?
"As intended" can be interpreted in alot of ways.
You're actively refusing to understand that if you can make it to work to kill mobs afk with a macro, it's allowed. A GM can very easy find out if you're in a macro or something else.
Juji's answer was to answer the OPs question and the discussion around it, which clearly means, using macro to kill even if afk is not prohibited ( using it as intended).
Geez, you ppl...
You're actively refusing to understand that if you can make it to work to kill mobs afk with a macro, it's allowed. A GM can very easy find out if you're in a macro or something else.
Juji's answer was to answer the OPs question and the discussion around it, which clearly means, using macro to kill even if afk is not prohibited ( using it as intended).
Geez, you ppl...
No, because "Intended purpose" is just a way to say "Legal department still has not decided if we can ban people or not".
They can come in a week and say "the intended purpose is NOT to use it while AFK, it is punishable bla bla".
We shall wait and see what happens, until then I will be AFK botting in GC.
Wait, I mean AFK Macroing ;)
Would you please elaborate?
Would you be allowed to go AFK (sleep) while your char is hunting monsters for you, using a repeated macro?
"As intended" can be interpreted in alot of ways.
Are you stupid or just pretending? GM just said you . What you do : "*********e , eat , pee or whatever" it is not his concern alsong you not use 3rd party software injection and use only ingame macros.
To complicated to understand ? )
Juji that was a recorded response. We as players and clannies need a more in depth
response to this question. The game macro as I've seen can be used to completely
animate the game play by some. Leaving clans to decide if its botting or a legalized
part of the game. If it then turns out to be something that is bannable if you happen
to be afk then we need that clearly stated. Were do we find more information on this
subject if not straight from you? I don't see anything relating to it on the patchnotes.
Please give more info on this subject soon. In game world chat might clear things up
for all if you wanna make that happen.
Another thing, this game is made up of CP's and PuGs. Lets say I get a party member
who has set up the repeatable macro. He finds out who's the MA and adds him into
the macro, then just leaves. How do I know he's gone, how do I know he's now an
automated player? What happens if it turns out this is considered botting and we the
other party members had no idea what he/she had done and we all get banned. WE
NEED MORE INFOMATION.
I'm sorry but automated gameplay is BOTTING whether you use third party software or "repeatable macros". What's the point of playing the game if three quarters of the server is afk? If you want to fix this, put a 10 or 15 minute timer on the repeatable macro so players won't abuse it. :mad:
I'm sorry but automated gameplay is BOTTING whether you use third party software or "repeatable macros". What's the point of playing the game if three quarters of the server is afk? If you want to fix this, put a 10 or 15 minute timer on the repeatable macro so players won't abuse it. :mad:
I'm sorry but automated gameplay is BOTTING whether you use third party software or "repeatable macros". What's the point of playing the game if three quarters of the server is afk? If you want to fix this, put a 10 or 15 minute timer on the repeatable macro so players won't abuse it. :mad:
Have you even actually tried to use the macros in this manner? It's laughably awful...
Have you even actually tried to use the macros in this manner? It's laughably awful...
Given that your PC is able to log 3 accounts, and that you have good enough gear, farming completely AFK is very easy in..
Giants cave, Enchanted valley, hellbound, stronghold 2&3, harnak, fairy settlement.. could go on, but you get the idea.
Heck, with good gear you can farm most places just with an iss.
I was having troubles in giants cave cause of all the sleep, knockdown etc from the mobs, my pets didnt have enough time to kill them (of course I could slow down my delays, but 2 mobs a minute is slow enough..)
Forgot to use the /previoustarget command thing which is new in helios, slapped that into macro and voila. now I can go AFK in giants cave as long as I want.
I think being able to farm 10b/hour without doing any work at all is decent, far from laughably awful.
Im beginning to think you never tried to use macros in this manner..
Only problem being that this kills community... if a player is allowed to go AFK and keep on levelling meanwhile I dont see any real reason to be behind his monitor and socialize with others.
Will this mean that soon there is nobody to chat around anymore?
I know a lot of players who play this game only because of the social aspect.
12 lines of actions is plenty to do basic monster killing!
Is it feature packed? No. But according to them so far it's legal, so it's awesome for boring lowbie grind, etc It's only decent for the lowbie grind and even then only for durable classes. Anything with range will be too far out to target anything beyond the first mob and if it's in a dense map it'll be dead due to the inherent squishiness of ranged users. Even melee will have issues as crits will throw the timing off heavily resulting in the character standing there getting beat on for a length of time.
At high levels it's basically suicide to use without monitoring. Those claiming otherwise are blowing smoke up our rearends.
It's very far from the initial claim of the OP that it was AFK BOT REPLACEMENT...
BTW I run 7 clients on three separate PCs (4 of those accounts are from the pay to play era). I can run raids and more solo without using the repeating macros. I do use the auto repeater on some of the dps at certain points on boss fights.
Given that your PC is able to log 3 accounts, and that you have good enough gear, farming completely AFK is very easy in..
Giants cave, Enchanted valley, hellbound, stronghold 2&3, harnak, fairy settlement.. could go on, but you get the idea.
Heck, with good gear you can farm most places just with an iss.
I was having troubles in giants cave cause of all the sleep, knockdown etc from the mobs, my pets didnt have enough time to kill them (of course I could slow down my delays, but 2 mobs a minute is slow enough..)
Forgot to use the /previoustarget command thing which is new in helios, slapped that into macro and voila. now I can go AFK in giants cave as long as I want.
I think being able to farm 10b/hour without doing any work at all is decent, far from laughably awful.
Im beginning to think you never tried to use macros in this manner..Then you will have no problem posting a video of your character doing this completely AFK for +20 minutes. Do remember to show your gear and level too as taking an extremely overgeared and slightly over leveled character out to a spot isn't relevant.