It's official! NCwest does not want new players anymore!

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Poor NCWest.

No matter what they do, they get thrashed from one side or the other.

Such a nice game, such a ****** up community ;)
The whole point with this is to make the creation of bot-advertisers to dont be cost effective time-wise, alas taking more time to make a 76lvl toon than it takes for ncsoft to periodically ban them. Cant do much more in a free2play game where u can create toons for free.
I agree, they're basically making it impossible for new players to interact with anyone, ask for help, for groups or anything. It's dumb.

Do you really think that adena sellers have a shortage of 76+ characters to use for spam? And even if they do now, it only takes a couple hours to make one...
i dont rly believe that new people come to play l2 anymore looking to a party rooms where you can only see +97 rooms most of time.
http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/announcements/temporary-chat-restrictions-coming.php

those chat restrictions are "temporary" but you have killed your game system.

congrats for not accepting any new players anymore.

you cannot fight bots, accept it and deal with it.

I agree, they're basically making it impossible for new players to interact with anyone, ask for help, for groups or anything. It's dumb.

Do you really think that adena sellers have a shortage of 76+ characters to use for spam? And even if they do now, it only takes a couple hours to make one...
You can ask SLIII maybe he knows how many level 76 spammers they have

HEY SLIII you cute lil' elpy how many lvl 76 spammers do you think they have?
You can ask SLIII maybe he knows how many level 76 spammers they have

HEY SLIII you cute lil' elpy how many lvl 76 spammers do you think they have?

ahaah lol . I can read that m8 :D. Anyway they have as much aslong they have adena buyers imo it will just increase fortuna lucky pockets prices :D u need how many around 500 lvl 1 ? yah something like that. Its maybe 5 minutes of F1 spam.
i dont rly believe that new people come to play l2 anymore looking to a party rooms where you can only see +97 rooms most of time.

If you a new player and didnt make it to 76 just cause of bot chat restriction system(which by the way should be explained in the game why you cant communicate) this game is not for you.
I agree, they're basically making it impossible for new players to interact with anyone, ask for help, for groups or anything. It's dumb....
Ask for help?
Such as: "pls adena!"
Thx, but No thx!
Why the hell you need to chat till 76 level. To level character 76 level takes 1 day, for me at any class, dd little faster. While i level some character i don't use the chat and i don't see any other players to use it at level under 76. Join clan and talk with with them if you feel alone :D or they can shout for you. And right now the game is made so you can solo till this 76 level easy. There is no party for open field pve at this low levels, unless it's raid boss for which you can create a party room.
Why the hell you need to chat till 76 level. To level character 76 level takes 1 day, for me at any class, dd little faster. While i level some character i don't use the chat and i don't see any other players to use it at level under 76. Join clan and talk with with them if you feel alone :D or they can shout for you. And right now the game is made so you can solo till this 76 level easy. There is no party for open field pve at this low levels, unless it's raid boss for which you can create a party room.

Most of new players will give up eventually if they cant talk to anyone.
How exactly do you expect them to find a clan, join parties and such if they do not know how?
Half my "just started playing" mentees dont even know how to speak in party chat, no idea what a party room is and no idea what on earth clan entry is :D
And even if its "just" 12 hours to get lv. 76 (I think its even more for the new players..), most of them will give up I am sure.
I mean really. If I started a game I got no idea how to play, cant really interact with anyone around me and 99% of the people that I see was named "sadojuhasd312312" I would have been out of there in a flash..

Note: The question is not "Can they do all of this solo", it is "What impression do we want new players to have of our game".
Most of new players will give up eventually if they cant talk to anyone.
How exactly do you expect them to find a clan, join parties and such if they do not know how?
Half my "just started playing" mentees dont even know how to speak in party chat, no idea what a party room is and no idea what on earth clan entry is :D
And even if its "just" 12 hours to get lv. 76 (I think its even more for the new players..), most of them will give up I am sure.
I mean really. If I started a game I got no idea how to play, cant really interact with anyone around me and 99% of the people that I see was named "sadojuhasd312312" I would have been out of there in a flash..

Note: The question is not "Can they do all of this solo", it is "What impression do we want new players to have of our game".

:D Adapt or DIE !

There are videos in youtube for this game a lot, there is forum. It's good to start learning about the game on theory, before you play it. I do like this, so people should start think more and not be that lazy to search for info somewhere else, not just in game.
Most of new players will give up eventually if they cant talk to anyone.
How exactly do you expect them to find a clan, join parties and such if they do not know how?
Half my "just started playing" mentees dont even know how to speak in party chat, no idea what a party room is and no idea what on earth clan entry is :D
And even if its "just" 12 hours to get lv. 76 (I think its even more for the new players..), most of them will give up I am sure.
I mean really. If I started a game I got no idea how to play, cant really interact with anyone around me and 99% of the people that I see was named "sadojuhasd312312" I would have been out of there in a flash..

Note: The question is not "Can they do all of this solo", it is "What impression do we want new players to have of our game".

How many players this New do you see in chat.
nobody hears them the 5 times a day it might happen in gludio
becasue of the rmt spam

Quak!
this might be another one SHOOT!!!! let the L2 Gods sort em out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6kjyI3JnQc
http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/announcements/temporary-chat-restrictions-coming.php

those chat restrictions are "temporary" but you have killed your game system.

congrats for not accepting any new players anymore.

you cannot fight bots, accept it and deal with it.
Really chat restrictions are the least of newcomers problem, lol for the love of god if you log in game and lvl a toon to 85 and see a dude running around with 300b worth of gear and you have what 5m in your invertory then you close and delete the game for good.:eek:
:D Adapt or DIE !

There are videos in youtube for this game a lot, there is forum. It's good to start learning about the game on theory, before you play it. I do like this, so people should start think more and not be that lazy to search for info somewhere else, not just in game.

Lovely approach trying to bring in new players. not. :o

When I download a game for my phone, Im not going to research it for hours before playing it.
I open it up...
a) Like it? Keep playing it.
b) Dont like it? Uninstall.

You assume people take this game as serious as you do, many of these people play an hour or two per day, maximum, for fun.

How fun would this game seem for those new players? let me tell you, not much :p
Poor NCWest.

No matter what they do, they get thrashed from one side or the other.

Such a nice game, such a ****** up community ;)

As i say in my previous post about you : " YOU ARE A GOOD DOG " proof is here....

WOOF !!! WOOF !!!! Is your tongue still fine? hopefully you have your fingers
....

Maybe you expect a job in the comunity ? Then, send your CV to NCwest somewhere in texas or wherever, explain your motivations, but plz, stop to play the lawyer of ncfailed....
As i say in my previous post about you : " YOU ARE A GOOD DOG " proof is here....

WOOF !!! WOOF !!!! Is your tongue still fine? hopefully you have your fingers
....

Maybe you expect a job in the comunity ? Then, send your CV to NCwest somewhere in texas or wherever, explain your motivations, but plz, stop to play the lawyer of ncfailed....

Who are you Mad at?
Who are you Mad at?

I think he is mad at me :D i just saw his post when you quote him, because he is in my ignore list here hahha in other thread he got mad at me, because i was talking about the pvp bots from Freya, it's like i offended him somehow :D I think he is not OK with his brain :(
He is mad at me :D i just saw his post when you quote him, because he is in my ignore list here hahha in other thread he got mad at me, because i was talking about the pvp bots from Freya, it's like i offended him somehow :D I think he is not OK with his brain :(

Is he a Cheater?
Is he a Cheater?

I don't focking know this guy, so got no idea where is he playing. No idea why he is trying to fight me on the forums :D It's focking weird. I'm talking here, explaining things and he appear from nowhere with some nonsense posts about me... *_*
Man im so lost here. Anways obviously NcSoft wants new players..... Do i really have to go on? lol?

The b0t problem? lol...... I play on 3 private servers and guess what..... theres 0 b0ts. I come to NcWest - and Shazam! B0t armies! You telling me a 1man show of a private server (sometimes 2 but definity no more then 2) is more effective at not allowing b0ts on there servers and for some unknown reason NcSoft (West) cant do it? lol XD Its really simple - THEY DONT WANT THEM GONE! And that my friend is evident! ~*~poof im gone~*~
Man im so lost here. Anways obviously NcSoft wants new players..... Do i really have to go on? lol?

The b0t problem? lol...... I play on 3 private servers and guess what..... theres 0 b0ts. I come to NcWest - and Shazam! B0t armies! You telling me a 1man show of a private server (sometimes 2 but definity no more then 2) is more effective at not allowing b0ts on there servers and for some unknown reason NcSoft (West) cant do it? lol XD Its really simple - THEY DONT WANT THEM GONE! And that my friend is evident! ~*~poof im gone~*~
Not worth to bot on lolservers, thats the reason. Not their superior defense or care or anything else.
explain your motivations
It's quite simple: I enjoy the game ;)

PS: Reading this forum that almost drowns in the daily deluge of tears and complaints, sometime I get the impression many ppl. are actually forced to play L2.
PPS: For some DH this might even be true as the family is hungry, but for all those other sad teardrops I really wonder why they don't just leave if they don't like what they get here.
i was wondering when they would try and reduce the adena spam.

it sucks for the noobs but really, i use pouches to make new chars 80+ anyway 1-85 takes literally no time at all
If you a new player and didnt make it to 76 just cause of bot chat restriction system(which by the way should be explained in the game why you cant communicate) this game is not for you.
Yeah god forbid someone should join a MMORPG and expect to interact with people.

:D Adapt or DIE !

There are videos in youtube for this game a lot, there is forum. It's good to start learning about the game on theory, before you play it. I do like this, so people should start think more and not be that lazy to search for info somewhere else, not just in game.Yeah videos which are horribly outdated and a forum where someone MIGHT respond someday. Most of the posts are out of date.

I ran into all kinds of trouble trying to figure stuff out when I came back to the game after several years. Even now I'm still having trouble finding basic information such as optimal DPS rotations in PVE etc.
what about mailing items from low lvl char to my main on same account?:D