This has to stop.

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This really needs to stop. You can't even complete quests because of this, it's not even funny anymore. Paying L2Tower developer for stoping making versions of L2Tower for the official server does not resolve the problem. You need to act, now, i mean, look at this! Are you serious? You dont care about this?

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That area has always had bots. What I do is find out is anyone live is there. If not, I steal mobs from bots, let them do most of the work I think last hit get quest item.
That sure is a lot of players. Maybe they are using the in-game Macro system! Yay! NCWest would remove blatant bots from their servers right?

Regardless, it makes the server look like it's time to party like its 1999.
The hours pass and it just gets worse and worse... Cmon GM's, we can't play like this, and it just happens that this quest is the one that gives you the A grade equipment so if you dont finish it you cant get the equipment, please do something at least change the reward of the quest to another or put more monsters (Kranrot, paliotes, etc) in other zones!!

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8564/BSFRuo.jpg
Its not only FP all the 1-85 lvling zones are full of bots and soon all the places will get full.. Gog is already a botland...
"Juji - They are real players."

Let them play :D
"Juji - They are real players."

Let them play :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

real juji :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
This really needs to stop. You can't even complete quests because of this

I was thinking that you could probably place your toon in the middle of the area and then set an auto-macro to the following.

1) /targetnext
2) *skill attack*
3) *skill attack*
4) *skill attack*

Step away from your computer and go chill for about 3-4 hours, go do chores, homework, wash/cruise in your sports car, and then come back and there is a chance that you might be done with that quest!
That sure is a lot of players. Maybe they are using the in-game Macro system! Yay! NCWest would remove blatant bots from their servers right?

Regardless, it makes the server look like it's time to party like its 1999.


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Just look the pic
http://imgur.com/ZamQLEM

http://imgur.com/ZamQLEM


SO..... bot problem solved ? :@

Bots in naia return,and still bots in seed of energy ! again many ppl change game ,gz gm.....

So the orc bots are gone...
Now is the era of kamael bot?:confused:

Dear GM after two day of the new update (Elios) bot back to game and in place where ppl do the new quest (Seal of shilen, Fairy) now its imposible to do quest cause alot of bot there. I think gm should to come to Seal of shilen and Fairy and ban every bot cause ppl cant do the new quest. So now, ppl need to w8 any gm do anything about those bot. WE CANT DO THE QUEST CAUSE THE BOT!
Its happening in server Chronos, we need a solution! :mad: :mad:

http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/announcements/temporary-chat-restrictions-coming.php

those chat restrictions are "temporary" but you have killed your game system.

congrats for not accepting any new players anymore.

you cannot fight bots, accept it and deal with it.

12 years ago, when I started, y'all embraced the bots as if they were long lost family. They ran rampant everywhere. It was quite clear the EULA and TOS meant nothing to you. The damage was done, the game relegated to obscurity and bargain bin status. The subs dwindled and then the game went free to play with a cash shop in effort to milk the last dregs y'all could. The game is on its death bed, life support beeping quietly in the background. The prognosis is grim.

Now, all of a sudden y'all are trying to combat the bots and scripts. After more than a DECADE of abuse, y'all begin to take action. Why now? What's more why take action that is also detrimental to legitimate players, those few left? Mostly I am referring to the xp nerfs in the field. Sure you boosted the xp from questing, but having OPTIONS is nice. OPTIONS are a big part of what makes an MMO enjoyable.

Signed,
A Disappointed Beta Player...
i have 38 more i found in just 5 minutes if you need them....i'd hate to get into a rant though
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OMG!!!!!....I SEE ALLOT OF ANGRY PEOPLE ...they're all MAD AT BOTS!!!!!! ..but the pvp/player base bots are ok ..though

correction 43 more rants now in the last 28 days ...ill do it...ill post em all ... together all 43 on one post Looks STUPID!!!!!!
Hey what happen now. All server are full of bots and now they even have some bots in PK mode so nobody can exp on open areas?. Well i was on Naia server at pavel ruins and i can confirm that they are bots cause i went there with a low lv character with Blessing of protection buff and that pk bot stayed for more than 30 minutes trying to kill me... see that screenshoot.

https://s8.postimg.org/h30qs9o5t/antibot.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/h30qs9o5t/)
just look at the past post, and be suspicious of the Elpys
games dead...
If they are bots cant someone just pk all of them? If someone pk's all of them, how long till they return? I'm a returning player and I went over and checked out that area, was ridiculous. I thought about leveling a pk toon just to clear that area, just for fun.
1 week after and we still have the same situation or worst

https://s10.postimg.org/hkb31dg91/bots.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/hkb31dg91/)

Juji are you going to ingnore this? or you going to fix it?:confused:

After they used for years scripts, they got a warning and just 3 days ban. High lvl and gear what they gained the last years with scripts they could keep. Thats Juji politics :D

You still hope for a clean game?? :rolleyes:
If they are bots cant someone just pk all of them? If someone pk's all of them, how long till they return? I'm a returning player and I went over and checked out that area, was ridiculous. I thought about leveling a pk toon just to clear that area, just for fun.
PK'ing bots does nothing to them since they are 100% automated, the PK'r however get a massive dose of karma.

You have about a minute before they rebuff and return to the area where they originally were.

You cannot upset a robot, thus PK'ing does nothing to harm them but has the opposite effect on you.
PK'ing bots does nothing to them since they are 100% automated, the PK'r however get a massive dose of karma.

You have about a minute before they rebuff and return to the area where they originally were.

You cannot upset a robot, thus PK'ing does nothing to harm them but has the opposite effect on you.
True. I gave up killing them on my perma red, who's no longer red but still has several 100 PKs.
I logged in after years of absence just for this: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!!!! xD
the answer is simple. ncsoft dont care about this.
There are other spots to go to, also you can get all the grades of gear you need until lvl 85 for 1ncoin per grade.. Yes it's a problem, yes it's not normal, but common, just find away to get what you want and stop qq about something that is a problem for years.
vlmThere are other spots to go to, also you can get all the grades of gear you need until lvl 85 for 1ncoin per grade.. Yes it's a problem, yes it's not normal, but common, just find away to get what you want and stop qq about something that is a problem for years.

agree, spend 10 bucks, buy pockets, skip 1-85 and start playing the real game. I'd rather see bugs fixed then time wasted on useless farmers.
i logged in after years of absence just for this: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!!!! Xd

lol :d :d :d :d
I'm not saying ignore the bot problem but the people that think this game will exist without them are delusional. The 10-20% of so called legits probably contribute to 5-10% of the ncoin purchased. Ban ALL the bots, merge all servers to 1, still won't be enough to justify keeping the game open. WoA full of farmers and top tier script pvp'ers don't bother me, don't xp there or don't war that clan, your not gonna win.


agree, spend 10 bucks, buy pockets, skip 1-85 and start playing the real game. I'd rather see bugs fixed then time wasted on useless farmers.
So if I run 3 accts, my roommate runs 3, wife runs 3, daughter runs her dad 3 to help out, and wife's girlfriend runs another 3 when they done screwing around, isn't that 15 accounts running from 1 IP address? Can't ban over IP alone, only 1 really cheating here is the wife.
The RMT's And Cheaters are too Freaking Shady, all MMO's in the Future will
Be Cheat free for years to come.
Welcome to the New Generation, get over it, and Stop Cheating
I'd rather see bugs fixed then time wasted on useless farmers.

Bug fixing and bot hunting are done by different teams that have nothing to do with each other:
Bugs are fixed by Gang Jeong-won (main bugs) and Nam Taek-rim (export-specific bugs) and their people. Lee Eun-jo and his team are working on bot hunting algorithms. And the task of Juji aka "The Team" is to maximize NCWest's revenue.

When Juji runs a comparison of server logs versus NCoin purchasing records and finds that true new players (as opposed to newly created bot accounts, academy alts of veterans etc.) usually play until their late 80s and then give up without ever having spent one dollar, deciding that disabling character creation will only minimally impact NCWest's bottom line, then this has absolutely nothing to do with Nam Taek-rim in Seoul trying to get the Fast Run buff of the class horses to transfer to servitors.
This has already been stopped, at least for the mean time.
Just leveled an alt today, the area is now free of bots.
I personally encountered those bots and fought with the bot owner weeks ago.
I would say it's better now.
Maybe most of you are thinking that this is only temporary.
But it's better than nothing.
This has already been stopped, at least for the mean time.
Just leveled an alt today, the area is now free of bots.
I personally encountered those bots and fought with the bot owner weeks ago.
I would say it's better now.
Maybe most of you are thinking that this is only temporary.
But it's better than nothing.
It is a Herculean Task to rid us of the Adena Farmer/Spamming RMT Bots and Cheaters.
The fight will never end. I am so impressed with NcWest for what they're trying to do (it isn't cheap, and I'm sure everyone is working overtime.)

The Fire grew to Big. It was out of Control.
games dead...

This... and LMAO at people still spending money on this game!
This... and LMAO at people still spending money on this game!

Lineage 2 is Immortal, despite being Hung, Shot, Stabbed, and Looted it has survived while
70% of the MMORG's that came out at the same time have died.
It's kind of a testament to fan dedication and management.
L2 will die State side when there's Barely enough people on to make a full party of 7 people.
And Everyone else has moved on to the Newer and Bigger MMO's.

Did i like compounding 200 rubies for a lvl. 4?.....no..will I do it again?....hell NO! lol
If they would have taken earlier actions against Script in or around 2004, things would be better now, in my opinion.
but over all you gotta Love Funky Guitar Playing Orcs , and dancing Elves.
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NCwest started their reputation of launching bot infested games in the west with Lineage 2. I want to clarify that I only played on the North American servers.

I have no screenshots from the games I played in that era (pre-2008 all I have from 2008 is a screenshot of a dude with a dragonslayer). RO/Eve/Lineage 2 all gone due to various reasons but mostly because I never thought I'd care to have them in the future. I tended to just full on delete installs of games when I quit them back then. I only have a couple screenshots from L2 in 08 the rest are newer.

Back in beta I met a fellow who was rather shady in general (he was online nearly 24/7 killing). He claimed he was running a bot in L2 and that NCsoft couldn't detect it. By that point I had basically already quit the game as it wasn't worth buying to continue playing post beta. The bots back then were really simplistic compared to what we're seeing today. Most people would consider them macros today. I came back near C2 and by the time I quit late c3 I had four accounts paid and manually boxed with two machines. Bots were far more complicated by that point and I remember seeing them committing suicide to guards (and so called legits running them faaaar away from people). Here's a screenshot of the character that I made when I came back (mybirthday) http://i.imgur.com/NJLxfHR.jpg .

I remember the bot protectors too. They were like spawns that would appear after too many bot trains were taken out lol.
oh man thanks for this
who the hell was that shady guy?


I never knew his real name and I cannot remember his in game name. I just know that he played some of the same games as me and by play I mean used programs to play for him. We ended up in the same IRC channel for a game community at one point. It was in that IRC room that we discovered that we had prior run ins.

He seemed to get more enjoyment out of getting his bot to work efficiently than he did actually playing the game. I never really understood his mindset. I'm also pretty sure he tried to **** me at one point as my firewall picked up a lot of unusual traffic after we had a falling out over something stupid.
That drummer reminded me of Conguero. Check his interests:
http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=259481

:D
LOL :D
I Find it really Ironic that in the Video, they're in the School of Dark Arts.
The very first place i encountered my first L2 Bot.