"What will be that ultimate party that can deliver the maximum damage all the time???, regardless of whether it's for an instance, a raid or even grinding???"
Well, here is my conclusion.
1 x Stacked GK + 6 x ISS(Pom + Bison)!!!
All Iss with +8 light set(for skill reduce) and just BR ALL THE TIME! What about stun, paralyze, fear??? Just take turns to use Angel's touch on GK. Someone dies? = Use Blessed Rez. and 6 x ISS = they can all heal.
With GK, no need for recharge either LOL!
Evic and Titan are good but their SM = 30 sec, and Frenzy 1 minute only....SO I think with the CONSTANT BATTLE RHAPSODY, GK will be that Ultimate DD!
Ultimate pve party would be: 2 Titans, 4 iss (2 Heiro, and 2 SD), and 1 sos tank.
With maximum CD reduction, sos is only down for about 5 seconds, and the Iss's could keep the titans with constant BR for every frenzy, and half the time the SD skill would be up for frenzy too.
Also, everyone in the party needs giant's Crit wound!
Honestly though, a much more practical party and one where every1 could have fun and do basically anything pve related they want without needing endgame gear:
Tank + Healer + Titan + Summoner + Dagger + Iss + Sos Tank
Idealilly the tank would be either SK or HK, The summoner would awaken as a warlock, for the unawakened cats, then chaos essence to an elemental summoner for best damage, The dagger just needs crit wound so anything but dorf is fine =(, and Heiro is the best for iss because of pom. this group would get solidarity 2 in PvE and be able to absolutely destroy all pve content in seconds once your gear up a little.
For PvP, if your person who is the sos tank plays it as his dual, he could be an archer main and change to that for pvp and be able to use the same gear, not counting weapon, for both his main + dual. The summoner should also change for pvp and be a Healer, once again, being able to share gear. It wouldn't be the very best of pvp party, but it could do very well. (BTW, this is the very close to the setup of my CP lol)
GKx2+ISSx2 (BD+PP/PPx2)+Othel(Wind Rider)+Tank(any would do)+EE.
On my GK (mix setup pvp/pve) under just box ISS i do K99 ~ 2 min 20-40 sec. So probably with a full pve setup would be under 2minutes. Embryo full solo run ~5-7minutes.
This stacks with armor destruction. You don't use this on evis???
Right Sidestep
Moves to the enemy's right and finds weakness. Cancels the opponent's target. Decreases enemy's resistance to fist weapons by for 30% for 5 seconds. The decrease in resistance is not canceled when striking. Requires a fist weapon.
That should be about a 42% damage increase for fist weapons.
You guys didnt mention this why? Is the description incorrect?
GKx2+ISSx2 (BD+PP/PPx2)+Othel(Wind Rider)+Tank(any would do)+EE.
On my GK (mix setup pvp/pve) under just box ISS i do K99 ~ 2 min 20-40 sec. So probably with a full pve setup would be under 2minutes. Embryo full solo run ~5-7minutes.
dont get fooled by the xp number..video is at high speed + he died and every time he dies he gets 210b xp added to the overall xp number
O.K. I think I saw him die like once and yes his video is fast paced(only 36 minutes though) but still 2.4 Trillion Exp??? makes up for everything. I mean how often do we get to see this, if any at all???
I understand it's only natural to feel sorry for ourselves and be self-critical, for our lack of focus, time and resources; and feel jealous & aggressive towards those who have everything and have been there and done that.
I remember an English Poet who once said,
"It's easy for anyone to feel sorry and be sympathetic
towards other people's misfortunes.
But, it takes a truly Beautiful Mind to feel Happy
for other people's success and achievements."
O.K. I think I saw him die like once and yes his video is fast paced(only 36 minutes though) but still 2.4 Trillion Exp??? makes up for everything. I mean how often do we get to see this, if any at all???
I understand it's only natural to feel sorry for ourselves and be self-critical, for our lack of focus, time and resources; and feel jealous & aggressive towards those who have everything and have been there and done that.
I remember an English Poet who once said,
"It's easy for anyone to feel sorry and be sympathetic
towards other people's misfortunes.
But, it takes a truly Beautiful Mind to feel Happy
for other people's success and achievements."
I feel u a bit mad and i dont get why.
Watched fast through video and i see like 5-6 deaths so 5x200=1T xp that is coming from bres ,so the xp is not so impressive.
For ex 1 solo kama with 200%rune +clan buff+exalted+maphr+dragon buff is 500b xp and takes like maxim 5 minutes for ppl like Born and maybe 10-15 for a average titan with sos.
Hes a pathological liar that's why I said it, I know him he plays on my server. He even posted proof of one of his lies ie. the superion video where he counts his deaths as xp gained lmao...
I've done k99 with him before and it did not take 3 minutes, more like 7 or 8 minutes. While still fast, it isn't 3 minutes. Btw when you get breezed and gain that exp back, it counts towards your exp total
I've done k99 with him before and it did not take 3 minutes, more like 7 or 8 minutes. While still fast, it isn't 3 minutes. Btw when you get breezed and gain that exp back, it counts towards your exp total
I did a rough calculation during his video that his exp was around 1t per hour. Definitely nowhere close to 2.4t. That's still good exp.
I did a rough calculation during his video that his exp was around 1t per hour. Definitely nowhere close to 2.4t. That's still good exp.
any strongly geared DD/Party can achieve the same when maxed out on XP boost, pending on size of party the below locations can fold comparable XP results:
- AF Aoe
- GC lower Aoe
- Superion Single / Aoe
-> GC & Superion are uber high resist pole weapons so don't think you'll be able to pole and still kill fast there ;) good DD combo's would be SK/HK + Titan, Evi or Dagger and obviously need better gear for Superion then for GC
ps, a melee build Wyn does very good at Superion too
guess for mage GoS would be close to the same
I can do it with my Tank but no point in bragging about that when I out gear & outplay 99% of most pplz, I prefer to point out stuff that others can reasonably achieve as well to keep players motivated :)
atm there's an xp wall at lvl 105 so the moment u hit that there's no point to xp anymore at least not for xp, farm mode then for pl service or adena or time to get that dual/alt some xp
any strongly geared DD/Party can achieve the same when maxed out on XP boost, pending on size of party the below locations can fold comparable XP results:
- AF Aoe
- GC lower Aoe
- Superion Single / Aoe
-> GC & Superion are uber high resist pole weapons so don't think you'll be able to pole and still kill fast there ;) good DD combo's would be SK/HK + Titan, Evi or Dagger and obviously need better gear for Superion then for GC
ps, a melee build Wyn does very good at Superion too
guess for mage GoS would be close to the same
I can do it with my Tank but no point in bragging about that when I out gear & outplay 99% of most pplz, I prefer to point out stuff that others can reasonably achieve as well to keep players motivated :)
I agree on most of this few things though. AF Aoe I don't think can achieve 1T xp an hour. Its close 700-900B an hour in the best spot, but in order to do that whole stacked party would be needed. Average that I have seen was 500-550B an hour, but that wasn't top spot either.
GC lower AOE in a group I agree with you, even single target I have seen people making 1B xp per kill in a duo/trio, but what I don't agree on is the ability to Pole it. While yes they are pole resist I think a stacked Dreadnought or Titan would be able to solo it with BR/SOS/POM/Celestial only issue than becomes the Bow and Mages which are a pain to try and get in a corner. I was there yesterday and being Semi-Stacked I was hitting without POM or BR for 150k damage without using provoke. I think the ability to use provoke makes the pole resist about the equivalent of a mob without it. I would be curious to know how much "Pole Resistance" actually means in terms of percentage.
I've done k99 with him before and it did not take 3 minutes, more like 7 or 8 minutes. While still fast, it isn't 3 minutes. Btw when you get breezed and gain that exp back, it counts towards your exp total
I agree on most of this few things though. AF Aoe I don't think can achieve 1T xp an hour. Its close 700-900B an hour in the best spot, but in order to do that whole stacked party would be needed. Average that I have seen was 500-550B an hour, but that wasn't top spot either.
GC lower AOE in a group I agree with you, even single target I have seen people making 1B xp per kill in a duo/trio, but what I don't agree on is the ability to Pole it. While yes they are pole resist I think a stacked Dreadnought or Titan would be able to solo it with BR/SOS/POM/Celestial only issue than becomes the Bow and Mages which are a pain to try and get in a corner. I was there yesterday and being Semi-Stacked I was hitting without POM or BR for 150k damage without using provoke. I think the ability to use provoke makes the pole resist about the equivalent of a mob without it. I would be curious to know how much "Pole Resistance" actually means in terms of percentage.
AF numbers were from a stacked titan hero on chronos and have no reason not to believe his word for it :)
The GC/Superion stuff is still true when an equally geared Titan/Dagger or in my case lol Tank can kill 5x faster then a stacked Dread with +12 PVE pole 15% p crit passive augment - having said that GC is doable cause the mobs are low level but you'll find out that on Superion that advantage is gone and it makes quite a difference.
craziest XP I did was on big lower GC room past Mimir spawn by aoeing literary all mobs there nonstop, wasn't best xp but defi crazy :D
party was like HK + SK + 2x Healer + 2x ISS and 1 Titan or stacked archer if I remember correctly
I do not understand why you even try to defend yourself Born. You can better spend your energy on something more positive. Whatever you say in here the enemies will deny it, say you are a pathological liar and nothing is as it seems, everything you say or do is wrong and sucks in their eyes. In the end they are the ones with the funny looks in the mirror and finally found out they are the ones who suck playing their Classes even with Top Gear. I always wondered how hard can it be to play an Eviscerator or Yul. Press only Steel Mind and Instinct every couple of minutes in order to beat their enemies with the very rare Top Gear they have farmed themselves in all this time. Oh wait. Hurray to NCoins!!!
In the meantime the enemies will all fail PvE without a SOS Tank and you will beat the crap out of them in PvE even without a SOS Tank. It makes me laugh and wonder how much damage an army of GK's will do.
I know for a fact that my 99 GK did more damage then my 101 Eviscerator ever since this new update came live. Some Players still deny it. Let them talk. It is the same reason why I keep saying a Titan or Wynn sucks hard in PvE without a SOS Tank.
Born lets see your speed without dim chest buff(reason he covered his buffs) haha, had to go to lengths to prove it and it was still outside your window..
I do not understand why you even try to defend yourself Born. You can better spend your energy on something more positive. Whatever you say in here the enemies will deny it, say you are a pathological liar and nothing is as it seems, everything you say or do is wrong and sucks in their eyes. In the end they are the ones with the funny looks in the mirror and finally found out they are the ones who suck playing their Classes even with Top Gear. I always wondered how hard can it be to play an Eviscerator or Yul. Press only Steel Mind and Instinct every couple of minutes in order to beat their enemies with the very rare Top Gear they have farmed themselves in all this time. Oh wait. Hurray to NCoins!!!
In the meantime the enemies will all fail PvE without a SOS Tank and you will beat the crap out of them in PvE even without a SOS Tank. It makes me laugh and wonder how much damage an army of GK's will do.
I know for a fact that my 99 GK did more damage then my 101 Eviscerator ever since this new update came live. Some Players still deny it. Let them talk. It is the same reason why I keep saying a Titan or Wynn sucks hard in PvE without a SOS Tank.
Cheers,
Bennie
This alone lets players know how dumb you are.. :p If both are 101 and what you're hitting lasts longer than 45 seconds sure GK will outdmg evis :)
Reason you know he used dim chest is because of the big head buff, hes not very smart at hiding these things. Big head with nothing inside unfortunately.
Reason you know he used dim chest is because of the big head buff, hes not very smart at hiding these things. Big head with nothing inside unfortunately.
Poor trufflebot doesn't know that dimensional chest in an instance zone with 5 min cd. Keep on scripting kiddo that's the only things you are good at, we were laughing when your cp member told us in TS that you are still relying on an auto-clicker. FYI, big head is an alien buff, but ofc you have no idea about the game since you are a dumb-***.
This stacks with armor destruction. You don't use this on evis???
Right Sidestep
Moves to the enemy's right and finds weakness. Cancels the opponent's target. Decreases enemy's resistance to fist weapons by for 30% for 5 seconds. The decrease in resistance is not canceled when striking. Requires a fist weapon.
That should be about a 42% damage increase for fist weapons.
You guys didnt mention this why? Is the description incorrect?My tyrr's armor destruction always overwrites my evis' right side step. I haven't run them together in a while but they didn't stack as of a month ago.
My tyrr's armor destruction always overwrites my evis' right side step. I haven't run them together in a while but they didn't stack as of a month ago.
EDIT : What's a SOS tank??
I'm fairly certain you are talking about lateral hit (which is just as useless as armor destruction while in a party because minus 50 percent pdef is the max amount you can debuff). Right side step does not take up the same debuff slot as armor destruction unless there was a recent ninja change.
Hes a pathological liar that's why I said it, I know him he plays on my server. He even posted proof of one of his lies ie. the superion video where he counts his deaths as xp gained lmao...
Well, Born didn't say anything or claim to be anything in his original video. It was "I" who made the interpretation in my own way. I admit it wasn't the most accurate description. Still it's quite impressive. Even counting all the deaths out of the equation, it's 1.4 Trillion Exp, equivalent to 2 x Kama(Solo) + 2 x AF(Full party) with the full boost.
they don't know they don't know.
they don't know what they don't know.
they are not even aware of the state of their not knowing.
There could be a most beautiful perfect soulmate out there in the world,
and they don't know...so their soulmate end up marrying the wrong guy....
or there could be a perfect job that can make them rich with minimal effort and they don't even know this...so they spend the rest of their life working at a slave job....
We all have our Destiny and God's calling but I see so many people not knowing this, which is very sad....They are trapped in their own small world not even realizing all the possibilities that lie beyond their knowledge and experience of the world which is like less than 0.001% of the total.
Born, don't get mad cuz people are like this...
They don't know what they don't know and not even aware of what they don't know. In their little head, it's unthinkable and all scam.
Poor trufflebot doesn't know that dimensional chest in an instance zone with 5 min cd. Keep on scripting kiddo that's the only things you are good at, we were laughing when your cp member told us in TS that you are still relying on an auto-clicker. FYI, big head is an alien buff, but ofc you have no idea about the game since you are a dumb-***.
What is auto-clicker lol? Are you still upset you've lost to me what 20 times in a row in oly? You're still crying scripts, I am dying of laughter.... Forgive me I haven't participated in this useless event...
Who is this dreamseeker? Haha why are you pretending to know anything about Zaken moron go find something to do with your life... You dont need to post in every thread on the forums..
Who is this dreamseeker? Haha why are you pretending to know anything about Zaken moron go find something to do with your life... You dont need to post in every thread on the forums..
Wow LOL. You don't even know who I am AND ALREADY you are calling me MORON? LOL it just says a lot about you.
If you don't know who I am, you must be new.
I think you are some angry guy looking for a way to vent your anger here on the forum. Just another hater! LOL
In general, I don't respond to Trolls and haters cuz I've realized that whatever they say is full of lies and just full of nonsense; so know this as a fact, this will be my last response to you.
wow lol. You don't even know who i am and already you are calling me moron? Lol it just says a lot about you.
If you don't know who i am, you must be new.
I think you are some angry guy looking for a way to vent your anger here on the forum. Just another hater! Lol
in general, i don't respond to trolls and haters cuz i've realized that whatever they say is full of lies and just full of nonsense; so know this as a fact, this will be my last response to you.
praise jesus! I can tell you're someone no one wants to know just by reading your posts..
AF numbers were from a stacked titan hero on chronos and have no reason not to believe his word for it :)
The GC/Superion stuff is still true when an equally geared Titan/Dagger or in my case lol Tank can kill 5x faster then a stacked Dread with +12 PVE pole 15% p crit passive augment - having said that GC is doable cause the mobs are low level but you'll find out that on Superion that advantage is gone and it makes quite a difference.
craziest XP I did was on big lower GC room past Mimir spawn by aoeing literary all mobs there nonstop, wasn't best xp but defi crazy :D
party was like HK + SK + 2x Healer + 2x ISS and 1 Titan or stacked archer if I remember correctly
Well MrsSellCraft isn't even close to normal. 1T xp in AF isn't easy to do at all. Titans have the advantage of being able to pull once with Frenzy up, and once right after with guts and BR up, alternating like this they should almost always have skill up at once. A dreadnought unfortunately has to rely on Zerk, Winged Spear, and BR doing the same size pulls. Pulling the best spot in AF1 I guess I might be able to see 1T xp in an hour running all boosts + dragon, but still not easy by any means.
What is auto-clicker lol? Are you still upset you've lost to me what 20 times in a row in oly? You're still crying scripts, I am dying of laughter.... Forgive me I haven't participated in this useless event...
(i) Can care less about Olympiad (don't even bother switching ap/sub skills)
(ii) Never said anything about scripts, you are just brain damaged, i said auto clicker
(iii) Your CP member told us that, so i am inclined to believe that the possibility exists, plus the latest fraps from RDS and few others did not disapprove that notion
(iv) No idea what why are you even talking about the event....
(v) "you lost to me what 20 times in a row?" you dodged me what - 9 month in a row? FYI still not bless epics/dark fists.
Well MrsSellCraft isn't even close to normal. 1T xp in AF isn't easy to do at all. Titans have the advantage of being able to pull once with Frenzy up, and once right after with guts and BR up, alternating like this they should almost always have skill up at once. A dreadnought unfortunately has to rely on Zerk, Winged Spear, and BR doing the same size pulls. Pulling the best spot in AF1 I guess I might be able to see 1T xp in an hour running all boosts + dragon, but still not easy by any means.
Hehe i actually pull even faster than that... I do 3 stage pulling. Frenzy, Followed by guts, followed by giants barrier. the only thing that slows me down is mob respawn.
If we're comparing size's here (Born), just a couple days ago, i actually made 3.6T XP in 1 hour, just as a test. I did Solo AF instance x2, kama x2, and then did a little over 30 mins of solo aoe in AF. Usuallyi run these with my CP or clan, but yeah, just had to see what i could do.
(i) Can care less about Olympiad (don't even bother switching ap/sub skills)
(ii) Never said anything about scripts, you are just brain damaged, i said auto clicker
(iii) Your CP member told us that, so i am inclined to believe that the possibility exists, plus the latest fraps from RDS and few others did not disapprove that notion
(iv) No idea what why are you even talking about the event....
(v) "you lost to me what 20 times in a row?" you dodged me what - 9 month in a row? FYI still not bless epics/dark fists.
--> (i) I don't switch either...
--> (ii) Poor trufflebot doesn't know that dimensional chest in an instance zone with 5 min cd. Keep on scripting kiddo that's the only things you are good at, we were laughing when your cp member told us in TS that you are still relying on an auto-clicker. FYI, big head is an alien buff, but ofc you have no idea about the game since you are a dumb-***.
This is literally on the same page of this thread... you accused me of cheating 3 times LOL in 2 sentences moron...
--> (iii) Provide evidence it only grows my ego you thinking I'm cheating
--> (iv) didnt know event gave big head.. I know its hard trying to think for you with 5 braincells
-->(v) 105 Tyrr with everything but dark fists and don't try to lie and say that you don't borrow those jewels haha so pathetic. Fact is you haven't won against me in months on near even gear, levels and skill oe are another story but I'm not in the business of making lame excuses you suck bud and your ego just cant take it.
--> (iv) didnt know event gave big head.. I know its hard trying to think for you with 5 braincells
-->(v) 105 Tyrr with everything but dark fists and don't try to lie and say that you don't borrow those jewels haha so pathetic. Fact is you haven't won against me in months on near even gear, levels and skill oe are another story but I'm not in the business of making lame excuses you suck bud and your ego just cant take it.
i) that's why your trigger skill is never on
ii) "didn't know event gave big head" you don't know much about anything for starters mr.WhatIsThatWarcryerBuff or mr.ICantPvPAgainstNetlixLegit or mr.WhereCanILevel or mr.WhatSA'sShouldIMake.
iii) i don't borrow epics, unlike someone i can care less if i win or lose. "near same gear" lets compare: epics (you win), fists (you win), brooch jewels (you win), skill OE(you win) ((if we are talking purely about pvp skill enchants).
I have an advantage in pve skill enchants, brain and level. Furthermore, as i mentioned earlier, you CP member told us that you are using auto-clicker so i am inclined to believe that his statement has a value.
P.S. why don't you post a fraps of your pvp with chat and skill bar on so that we all could see your skill, this weeks siege would be a great opportunity for you to do so, unless you chicken out. Lets us see how good you are with all that gear.
i) that's why your trigger skill is never on
ii) "didn't know event gave big head" you don't know much about anything for starters mr.WhatIsThatWarcryerBuff or mr.ICantPvPAgainstNetlixLegit or mr.WhereCanILevel or mr.WhatSA'sShouldIMake.
iii) i don't borrow epics, unlike someone i can care less if i win or lose. "near same gear" lets compare: epics (you win), fists (you win), brooch jewels (you win), skill OE(you win) ((if we are talking purely about pvp skill enchants).
I have an advantage in pve skill enchants, brain and level. Furthermore, as i mentioned earlier, you CP member told us that you are using auto-clicker so i am inclined to believe that his statement has a value.
P.S. why don't you post a fraps of your pvp with chat and skill bar on so that we all could see your skill, this weeks siege would be a great opportunity for you to do so, unless you chicken out. Lets us see how good you are with all that gear.
Haha now you're missing brooch jewels, same here bud? What else, add more to the list of the excuses while we are here. I think its more fun just to let you wallow in self pity thinking I'm cheating. Only skill thats past 10 on my toon is SM. Maybe you will open your eyes next time we fight and see my trigger skill or perhaps you frapsed those matches but we both know that wont see the light of day. Explain to me what Auto-Clicker is while we're at it also.
Everyone on the forums get's to witness you cry and make excuses for being outplayed by a better player QQ. At least you only accused me of cheating once in that post. :D:D:D
P.S. why don't you post a fraps of your pvp with chat and skill bar on so that we all could see your skill, this weeks siege would be a great opportunity for you to do so
What will be happening at this week's sieges? Will I be falling asleep again waiting for someone in my party to take dmg, so I can heal them? lol :D
What will be happening at this week's sieges? Will I be falling asleep again waiting for someone in my party to take dmg, so I can heal them? lol :D
I can not help myself by saying the following to this. I can not believe it that you just said this openly in Public Jon. It's a known side effect, if you spend alot of NCoins each Event that you will be 1-year ahead of everyone else in the Server. All you can do is, well nothing, spend more and die from boredom that none will ever beat you, that's all. It's exactly what you have created yourself. You Reap what you Sow.
I can not help myself by saying the following to this. I can not believe it that you just said this openly in Public Jon. It's a known side effect, if you spend alot of NCoins each Event that you will be 1-year ahead of everyone else in the Server. All you can do is, well nothing, spend more and die from boredom that none will ever beat you, that's all. It's exactly what you have created yourself. You Reap what you Sow.
Cheers,
Bennie
Yes because our enemies dont buy nccoin at all and dont have +10 sets themselves: born, boundless, KT, you, clockwork x2, entire cowboys from hell clan basically, neohat, sourdiesel, wingedfreak, phantera, the list goes on.
I haven't created anything for myself, it's just that oddity's enemies are just really, really bad and can't organize.
Yes because our enemies dont buy nccoin at all and dont have +10 sets themselves: born, boundless, KT, you, clockwork x2, entire cowboys from hell clan basically, neohat, sourdiesel, wingedfreak, phantera, the list goes on.
I haven't created anything for myself, it's just that oddity's enemies are just really, really bad and can't organize.
I can break your illusion by saying I don't have any +10 sets. I already told you I sold most of my Healer gear during the Shirt event.
97% of your Enemies are 1 CP Clans. Of course they will be bad and can't organize, because there is nothing to organize at all in Zaken.
I can break your illusion by saying I don't have any +10 sets. I already told you I sold most of my Healer gear during the Shirt event.
97% of your Enemies are 1 CP Clans. Of course they will be bad and can't organize, because there is nothing to organize at all in Zaken.
Cheers,
Bennie
I didn't just mean +10 sets, I meant things you buy nccoin with. OE weapons, brooch jewels, abundance tailsman, etc.
What about your CP? You have guys have gear, but don't work together it seems to me. Borninhell is lvl 105, shouts wts k99 duos, embryo duos, powerlevel, and rest of you guys are 100-101 (maybe boundless is 102 idk).
It seems to me you guys finally might be getting it, by joining into bloodwatch. Problem is, it will be under clockwork's leadership, so it's bound to fail. I wish you all luck though.