When you're right...you are right....

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Opposing the corrupt totalitarian greed mongers here on Zaken, the epitome of a barren wasteland, leads to more verbal abuse when being an outspoken individual standing up for the oppressed.

I +1'd someone in world shout cheering them on. In response to that was an unwarranted personal message by a two face "clan leader"?

http://i.imgur.com/2RHNWGc.png It is strange the "I'm too cool for school" or "who cares, it is pixels bro" self image Tron has been trying to promote but then you read....this.


I find it interesting that just a few months ago I had a Skype conversation with Tron discussing the unfortunate past on the Chronos server about five years back and for clarity no one on Zaken knows what happened nor were (you) involved. (Keep this in mind before you narrow your thoughts to one side *cough* iSniffo, j0nSnow *cough*.) Tron did not even understand the full story until we did speak on Skype that early morning. I do not believe I denied anything but simply stated the facts which supported the executive decisions that were necessary to prove a point during that time. I do recall Tron stating to me, (I am paraphrasing) "I really looked up to your leadership when you were in clan. You did a great job." I was appreciative when receiving that message. That is why I was voted to take over that clan. (To reiterate: no one on Zaken was involved during that time so be mindful.) I do not hear it enough though. Unfortunately, the days of quality leadership never did get a chance to flourish on the Zaken server. We did both agree that there were issues on his and my end but that was that. There was no issue or dismay. He understood that there was no scam. It was a tough time building a clan that worked to participate in all content of the game against "players" who utilized third party programs. Players who could not respect and appreciate a legitimate PvP opportunity. It was especially tough being the person gearing over 50% of the clan members in any way possible.

After Fooz failed leading Netflix because he was not really leading it similar to Tron in Oddity, I reluctantly joined Oddity. I am an active support class who had only one option. That was to join the only active clan on the server. As most readers here did see my previous post disproving a tyrannical TruffleButter about a PvP encounter one evening in the Giant's Cave an abuse of power took place and I was wrongfully dismissed. Not one person stood up against that which was wrong. Very few of us want to help promote a healthy community and to build an active server so that opportunity is available to the players who have for so long ventured throughout the land of Aden. That allows these times of situations to occur without consequence.

I do find it humorous Tron mentioning a statement I made to him months prior on the Zaken server that I felt the need to make a payment regarding a clan hall that was given away on Chronos free to a deserving clan. Despite the negative connotation attempted by Tron that was actually me extending a hand shake on my end. A simple Olive Branch to help reconcile the past.

But...here I sit. I am still an active Iss on the Zaken server. I am still progressing my char. I am still sitting here watching clans implode. Cowboys, HighTimers, Bloodwatch (1st time), Enigma, Netflix and now the flames rise from Oddity. If I was only naive enough so that I was oblivious to the rampant barbarism. What is sad is the CP I was in did not stand up for me which includes my "friends" VLTOR and Naega. That leaves me scratching my head. In closing, Tron/Truffle remind me of Commodus from the movie "The Gladiator".


The journey continues....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i0u4jFmE78
Its only me didnot understand 90% of this post? Except part where Tron again use personal blame... Well, Its typical to Tron, Truffel, Rmn, and etc... I think they dont know what they do, and dont have sence of situation at all... All they have is donate OP, which force so many peoples (even good ones) to deal with them... or even worse sell themselfes to them...
I remember when we had ally, I asked why they killing me in gainak? Was simple question in ally chat from a guy called truffles fan boy... I saw 10 ppls blames from ally and 2-3 from my clan (Healena, and some others) I saw instant blames about my mother as well...
Next day I was crossing gainak to feed ponys, truffle follow and pk me... I asked him in pm why? And got back blames about me and my parents...
I think they are extremely sick peoples... Ofc I did ridiculous thing when called Tron, Truffle and etc ******** in ally chat... I should not broke ally rulles anyway, but they did all to provoke me...
Opposing the corrupt totalitarian greed mongers here on Zaken, the epitome of a barren wasteland, leads to more verbal abuse when being an outspoken individual standing up for the oppressed.

I +1'd someone in world shout cheering them on. In response to that was an unwarranted personal message by a two face "clan leader"?

http://i.imgur.com/2RHNWGc.png It is strange the "I'm too cool for school" or "who cares, it is pixels bro" self image Tron has been trying to promote but then you read....this.


I find it interesting that just a few months ago I had a Skype conversation with Tron discussing the unfortunate past on the Chronos server about five years back and for clarity no one on Zaken knows what happened nor were (you) involved. (Keep this in mind before you narrow your thoughts to one side *cough* iSniffo, j0nSnow *cough*.) Tron did not even understand the full story until we did speak on Skype that early morning. I do not believe I denied anything but simply stated the facts which supported the executive decisions that were necessary to prove a point during that time. I do recall Tron stating to me, (I am paraphrasing) "I really looked up to your leadership when you were in clan. You did a great job." I was appreciative when receiving that message. That is why I was voted to take over that clan. (To reiterate: no one on Zaken was involved during that time so be mindful.) I do not hear it enough though. Unfortunately, the days of quality leadership never did get a chance to flourish on the Zaken server. We did both agree that there were issues on his and my end but that was that. There was no issue or dismay. He understood that there was no scam. It was a tough time building a clan that worked to participate in all content of the game against "players" who utilized third party programs. Players who could not respect and appreciate a legitimate PvP opportunity. It was especially tough being the person gearing over 50% of the clan members in any way possible.

After Fooz failed leading Netflix because he was not really leading it similar to Tron in Oddity, I reluctantly joined Oddity. I am an active support class who had only one option. That was to join the only active clan on the server. As most readers here did see my previous post disproving a tyrannical TruffleButter about a PvP encounter one evening in the Giant's Cave an abuse of power took place and I was wrongfully dismissed. Not one person stood up against that which was wrong. Very few of us want to help promote a healthy community and to build an active server so that opportunity is available to the players who have for so long ventured throughout the land of Aden. That allows these times of situations to occur without consequence.

I do find it humorous Tron mentioning a statement I made to him months prior on the Zaken server that I felt the need to make a payment regarding a clan hall that was given away on Chronos free to a deserving clan. Despite the negative connotation attempted by Tron that was actually me extending a hand shake on my end. A simple Olive Branch to help reconcile the past.

But...here I sit. I am still an active Iss on the Zaken server. I am still progressing my char. I am still sitting here watching clans implode. Cowboys, HighTimers, Bloodwatch (1st time), Enigma, Netflix and now the flames rise from Oddity. If I was only naive enough so that I was oblivious to the rampant barbarism. What is sad is the CP I was in did not stand up for me which includes my "friends" VLTOR and Naega. That leaves me scratching my head. In closing, Tron/Truffle remind me of Caesar from the movie "The Gladiator".


The journey continues....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i0u4jFmE78


Lol oddity in flames. We lost a castle because, and only because, my cp ran out of buffs while they were casting. Now all of a sudden we are in flames, just lol. Oddity is doing great due to our non greedy leaders, good players, and no internal drama
Its only me didnot understand 90% of this post? Except part where Tron again use personal blame... Well, Its typical to Tron, Truffel, Rmn, and etc... I think they dont know what they do, and dont have sence of situation at all... All they have is pay OP, which force so many peoples (even good ones) to deal with them... or even worse sell themselfes to them...
I remember when we had ally, I asked why they killing me in gainak? Was simple question in ally chat from a guy called truffles fan boy... I saw 10 ppls blames from ally and 2-3 from my clan (Healena, and some others) I saw instant blames about my mother as well...
Next day I was crossing gainak to feed ponys, truffle follow and pk me... I asked him in pm why? And got back blames about me and my parents...
I think they are extremely sick peoples... Ofc I did ridiculous thing when called Tron, Truffle and etc ******** in ally chat... I should not broke ally rulles anyway, but they did all to provoke me...

Yes tron and truffle are very sick peoples
Those sick *****
Lol oddity in flames. We lost a castle because, and only because, my cp ran out of buffs while they were casting. Now all of a sudden we are in flames, just lol. Oddity is doing great due to our non greedy leaders, good players, and no internal drama

So you're basically saying that you guys (or at least your iss) are useless morons?
Its only me didnot understand 90% of this post? Except part where Tron again use personal blame... Well, Its typical to Tron, Truffel, Rmn, and etc... I think they dont know what they do, and dont have sence of situation at all... All they have is pay OP, which force so many peoples (even good ones) to deal with them... or even worse sell themselfes to them...
I remember when we had ally, I asked why they killing me in gainak? Was simple question in ally chat from a guy called truffles fan boy... I saw 10 ppls blames from ally and 2-3 from my clan (Healena, and some others) I saw instant blames about my mother as well...
Next day I was crossing gainak to feed ponys, truffle follow and pk me... I asked him in pm why? And got back blames about me and my parents...
I think they are extremely sick peoples... Ofc I did ridiculous thing when called Tron, Truffle and etc ******** in ally chat... I should not broke ally rulles anyway, but they did all to provoke me...

The words in my post are clear. =P Some of this dates back a while.
Oh shiny youuuu eeeee however you spell your name youre a non factor and the biggest bag of tears ive ever seen and you make truffle look a one time use refresh pack. No one wants you, bw isnt imploding; Its building. You are just a crybaby whos feelings get hurt if someone says something you dont agree with.

I dont blame them for kicking you. Needless to say oddity might be full of ignorant people but id chose them over you anyday bc they at least have a back bone.

P.S still mad i couldnt pronounce your name haha.
Oh shiny youuuu eeeee however you spell your name youre a non factor and the biggest bag of tears ive ever seen and you make truffle look a one time use refresh pack. No one wants you, bw isnt imploding; Its building. You are just a crybaby whos feelings get hurt if someone says something you dont agree with.

I dont blame them for kicking you. Needless to say oddity might be full of ignorant people but id chose them over you anyday bc they at least have a back bone.

P.S still mad i couldnt pronounce your name haha.

Nothing I have done or said correlates with what you are saying. Either way I am not so much worried about your attempt to be relevant, especially in this conversation. Our server has no need for the senseless ranting that takes place in world/hero shout. I myself have said plenty in world shout but it was either about a dead server ran by profiteers, I was goofing around or something towards WingedFreak but he earned that because he has cheated in PvP the last 5 years until recently when Zr became unavailable. No fallacy or barbaric remarks, unprovoked might I add.

I do find it curious how you justify your lack of civility towards players within the community and your own clan. It is the same as TruffleButter. Borderline sociopathic. Also to clarify I did not say the current BW is imploding. Pay attention to the text before you think you can go toe to toe with me. What's humorous about this entire ordeal is that two or three times you came to me asking to join your clan/CP. Which is cool, I was appreciative each time but I did not feel that was the best choice. The first time when I spoke to you, Ibok and Kwaz in Teamspeak was cool. To touch base with old school Devianne players was nice but soon after it was very unpleasant. Kwaz kept complaining about the game and you, Clockwork, then and now displayed a behavior that was uncouth. There was no productive discussion about the game. The second time you asked me I was in Netflix. The third time was when Truffle dismissed me from Oddity. You approached me again and I agreed. The minute I joined clan Kwaz made a derogatory remark bashing me for not joining from the beginning when I had no reason to. Also, you don't have the right to bash someone when you do not even know them. Afterwards I joined Teamspeak for some PvP where you, Clockwork, complained about your opposition utilizing third party non stop followed by constant complaints that you are always lagging when dying. We had one good PvP with WingedFreak and AshlynnBrooke against Oddity which was nice because you weren't really talking a lot. More importantly we held off against about one and a half party of Oddity. Then the next day we ran Embryo and just as before you were unpleasant. I wanted to explain how my name is pronounced. A name that I have used for many years. Your respone was,"No one gives a F**k." So I left the clan. I did not make a fuss about it. I simply withdrew. Being verbally abusive and condescending when it is not provoked is called bullying. That is not how things work. Once I left you made one or two remarks publicly that were yet again, unprovoked. I did not/have not made any comment relating to you for no reason. There was no need for it. It would be nice if players would stick to the facts and help grow the server rather than feed the deterioration. The only reason Oddity and BW exist is because there is no one else willing to lead nor capable. (Besides myself and maybe one or two people I do not know about but my RL schedule does not allow that.) The only decent clan that has any muscle would be Ephemeral. Unfortunately for Graven he has only the corrupt to deal with so it could be better for Ephemeral. So the socially inept run free.
Nothing I have done or said correlates with what you are saying. Either way I am not so much worried about your attempt to be relevant, especially in this conversation. Our server has no need for the senseless ranting that takes place in world/hero shout. I myself have said plenty in world shout but it was either about a dead server ran by profiteers, I was goofing around or something towards WingedFreak but he earned that because he has cheated in PvP the last 5 years until recently when Zr became unavailable. No fallacy or barbaric remarks, unprovoked might I add.

I do find it curious how you justify your lack of civility towards players within the community and your own clan. It is the same as TruffleButter. Borderline sociopathic. Also to clarify I did not say the current BW is imploding. Pay attention to the text before you think you can go toe to toe with me. What's humorous about this entire ordeal is that two or three times you came to me asking to join your clan/CP. Which is cool, I was appreciative each time but I did not feel that was the best choice. The first time when I spoke to you, Ibok and Kwaz in Teamspeak was cool. To touch base with old school Devianne players was nice but soon after it was very unpleasant. Kwaz kept complaining about the game and you, Clockwork, then and now displayed a behavior that was uncouth. There was no productive discussion about the game. The second time you asked me I was in Netflix. The third time was when Truffle dismissed me from Oddity. You approached me again and I agreed. The minute I joined clan Kwaz made a derogatory remark bashing me for not joining from the beginning when I had no reason to. Also, you don't have the right to bash someone when you do not even know them. Afterwards I joined Teamspeak for some PvP where you, Clockwork, complained about your opposition utilizing third party non stop followed by constant complaints that you are always lagging when dying. We had one good PvP with WingedFreak and AshlynnBrooke against Oddity which was nice because you weren't really talking a lot. More importantly we held off against about one and a half party of Oddity. Then the next day we ran Embryo and just as before you were unpleasant. I wanted to explain how my name is pronounced. I did not make a fuss about it. I simply withdrew. Being verbally abusive and condescending when it is not provoked is called bullying. That is not how things work. Once I left you made one or two remarks publicly that were yet again, unprovoked. I did not/have not made any comment relating to you for no reason. There was no need for it. It would be nice if players would stick to the facts and help grow the server rather than feed the deterioration. The only reason Oddity and BW exist is because there is no one else willing to lead nor capable. (Besides myself and maybe one or two people I do not know about but my RL schedule does not allow that.) The only decent clan that has any muscle would be Ephemeral. Unfortunately for Graven he has only the corrupt to deal with so it could be better for Ephemeral. So the socially inept run free.



first off take BW out of you mouth and mind... bw has always been a small clan on the server. Until the hardwork of myself / vandamme cp / sourdiesel cp / coffeetime cp / and Hephaestus has made it to what it is today. so the fact you said it was imploding is nothing more to the reference of your usability on the server. You thought people would want you; that back fired bc you're a spineless, clan hopping, coward.


2nd... I never asked you to join my cp. The first time you are talking about is when you spoke to kwaz and tried to be cool in ts like you weren't a nonfactor on dev... and I was against it bc youre known as a clan hopper. In addition IBOK was like who is this guy and oh him no! it was kwaz who was like meh... then next time you may think of when I asked you was when I asked CFH to merge into BW... Hephaestus recruited you and when he did I was like who the F let this kid in BW...
I tried to give u the benefit of the doubt after heph asked me too... and you continued to cry. Then you dropped before I could kick you all bc I couldn't pronounce your name. "A name that I have used for many years. Your respone was,"No one gives a F**k." So I left the clan." (a name you say you used in the past has no relevance to a new server... THlord wizardofthenorth woulda been more relevant. I mean you have 20+ bots fishing who fing cares about how you pronounce a name when you cant even CC a NPC (your one job)... I mean people call me clockwork clockforce botwork... I laugh and keep it moving and do my job. You are softer then a peach kid. Grow a pair, keep it moving, stop crying, and maybe just maybe youll find a place somewhere in insensitive land. So what if I complain about 3rd pt users like yourself. I've never used anything and thus have the right to complain about it. Just because its the only way you can xp don't try to defend users who use it.


p.s to clarify things the moment I knew you were THlord I was like no ty. Hope youre enjoying the game homeless.
first off take BW out of you mouth and mind... bw has always been a small clan on the server. Until the hardwork of myself / vandamme cp / sourdiesel cp / coffeetime cp / and Hephaestus has made it to what it is today. so the fact you said it was imploding is nothing more to the reference of your usability on the server. You thought people would want you; that back fired bc you're a spineless, clan hopping, coward.


2nd... I never asked you to join my cp. The first time you are talking about is when you spoke to kwaz and tried to be cool in ts like you weren't a nonfactor on dev... and I was against it bc youre known as a clan hopper. In addition IBOK was like who is this guy and oh him no! it was kwaz who was like meh... then next time you may think of when I asked you was when I asked CFH to merge into BW... Hephaestus recruited you and when he did I was like who the F let this kid in BW...
I tried to give u the benefit of the doubt after heph asked me too... and you continued to cry. Then you dropped before I could kick you all bc I couldn't pronounce your name. "A name that I have used for many years. Your respone was,"No one gives a F**k." So I left the clan." (a name you say you used in the past has no relevance to a new server... THlord wizardofthenorth woulda been more relevant. I mean you have 20+ bots fishing who fing cares about how you pronounce a name when you cant even CC a NPC (your one job)... I mean people call me clockwork clockforce botwork... I laugh and keep it moving and do my job. You are softer then a peach kid. Grow a pair, keep it moving, stop crying, and maybe just maybe youll find a place somewhere in insensitive land. So what if I complain about 3rd pt users like yourself. I've never used anything and thus have the right to complain about it. Just because its the only way you can xp don't try to defend users who use it.


p.s to clarify things the moment I knew you were THlord I was like no ty. Hope youre enjoying the game homeless.

Again, what I typed was the BW before you were even around. You are still defending something you weren't apart of at that time.

You asked me three different times to join your CP. I was invited into Teamspeak and there were no issues. You don't have a reason to have an issue with me from the devianne days. We barely played together.

Benefit of the doubt? You and Kwaz were offended that I defended myself against invalid remarks/assumptions about me. I don't know why you put yourself on a pedestal. You haven't earned anything special playing on Zaken.

"Continued to cry" I barely said anything in Teamspeak or clan chat. What are you talking about? You can not create scenarios that did not happen. Creating fallacy to develop some sort of argument? That is not how things work.

I never said "No one gives a f***". We did Embryo and you were unpleasant to be around just like before because you consistently mistreat people for no reason. I simply said "Shin+you" is how my name is pronounced. I have used this name longer than THlord/WoTn, which does not even matter. I can use the name that I choose. I don't see why you brought that up. Your response was "No one gives a f*##" so after Embryo I withdrew from the clan and as I said before I did not make a big deal about it. You did in an unprovoked defensive manner. You weren't going to dismiss me. You had no reason to nor did you have the privileges at that time.

CC an npc? We were on the last boss in Embryo and my CC was on cool down. So again that does not make any sense. You can't bash someone for a skill being on cool down. Your continuing to use words in an attempt to twist around what really happened.

I don't use third party programs anymore because they ban players now. I'm not concerned about your third party comments about me. It has nothing to do with PvP so no harm relatively speaking. You don't know what you are talking about, once again.

Also, I'm not spineless or "softer than a peach". I'm calling you out for how you treat people due to some mental incapability. You don't know much about me.

You are trying to give "THlord" a negative connotation from a time that was 9 or 10 years ago? I chose to not play with clans then and I was a perma red most of the time. Bringing up THlord is not an insult. Especially since we did not play together back then.

I suggest you stop thinking that how you act is "o-k". It is not and you are wrong. Get to know someone before you assume anything.
i'm dying :D
Youre right in going off you being a clan hopper cry baby who thinks everyone is out to get you or treats you bad... obviously there is a trend and reason for it. You do the right thing and get out the kitchen when its hot... slow clap.
The Purest Tears,
Youre right in going off you being a clan hopper cry baby who thinks everyone is out to get you or treats you bad... obviously there is a trend and reason for it. You do the right thing and get out the kitchen when its hot... slow clap.


If a clan dissolves and people quit then yes, one moves to a new clan. If this happens two or three times in a row. I suppose it is a trend or a pattern. You are trying to insult me because the clans I have joined on this server I stayed in until they were no more? That does not make much sense.

Do keep in mind the few clans to choose from on the corrupt Zaken server do not gear their clan mates unless there is some "special" agreement rather a profiteering opportunity. It is quite the phenomenon how the majority of players on Zaken are blinded by greed and there are no true leaders here.


Nice castle btw.
The Purest Tears,

Yea, standing against corruption is a bad thing.
Its not about bad leaders at all... Coffetime and Killtime were excellent leaders...
Its about bad game and bad ppl (and for sure I think ppls are worse than game, if game is bad all know it, but why than only few ppls post comments at forum? Wtf doing rest?)
In general there is 3 thing which makes this game bad...
1 ridiculous instant op throw pay with absolutely no limits... ncoins, rmt (bot programs included)
2 fact that this op make specific guys control most things of server...
3 totally incompetent players, which dont have an idea how to farm anything in game...
ppls w/o honest and mind who gladly selling themselfes to any credit card warrior as meatshield zerg or high ranked mercenaries...
As result most ridiculous scammer jerk credit card warriors rulling server... ppls w/o any l2 knowledge, skills, honest and etc... those who not respect anyone, and only betray and scam who ever they can... It was like that when nets were rulling, than now even worse odditynets rull...
And I really dont get why ppls join oddity... We had ally with them but dye to their greed and stupidity they betray enigma and replaced us with gravens clan... they betray meyani and replaced them with nets... To take more gear... its all bcs of greed! They betray phantera cp!
And now invited half server ally! Do any one still believe that Tron will share?! Do any one really believe that Tron think that 80% are better than phntera cp, meyani cp, coffee cp, and 30 best enigmas?! Guys get over with this illusions lol... We had ally with them and controlled server, but trust to someone and be betrayed is one thing... Join clan which already betrayed numerous times is donno what... I understand what graven doing, I understand what xtevasx doing... But rest? Specially those ex enigmas who joined oddity... where are your minds lol...
Its not just a game, but its a game (Not necessary to rull, you cant loose char as in game option, not even item unless pk too much... no punishments at all such as prison, injure and etc) How can any one other than rmn s kind be in that clan lol?! Really its better to never farm a dragon than see Tron and Truffel with same clan crest as your...
Its not about bad leaders at all... Coffetime and Killtime were excellent leaders...
Its about bad game and bad ppl (and for sure I think ppls are worse than game, if game is bad all know it, but why than only few ppls post comments at forum? Wtf doing rest?)
In general there is 3 thing which makes this game bad...
1 ridiculous instant op throw pay with absolutely no limits... ncoins, rmt (bot programs included)
2 fact that this op make specific guys control most things of server...
3 totally incompetent players, which dont have an idea how to farm anything in game...
ppls w/o honest and mind who gladly selling themselfes to any credit card warrior as meatshield zerg or high ranked mercenaries...
As result most ridiculous scammer jerk credit card warriors rulling server... ppls w/o any l2 knowledge, skills, honest and etc... those who not respect anyone, and only betray and scam who ever they can... It was like that when nets were rulling, than now even worse odditynets rull...
And I really dont get why ppls join oddity... We had ally with them but dye to their greed and stupidity they betray enigma and replaced us with gravens clan... they betray meyani and replaced them with nets... To take more gear... its all bcs of greed! They betray phantera cp!
And now invited half server ally! Do any one still believe that Tron will share?! Do any one really believe that Tron think that 80% are better than phntera cp, meyani cp, coffee cp, and 30 best enigmas?! Guys get over with this illusions lol... We had ally with them and controlled server, but trust to someone and be betrayed is one thing... Join clan which already betrayed numerous times is donno what... I understand what graven doing, I understand what xtevasx doing... But rest? Specially those ex enigmas who joined oddity... where are your minds lol...
Its not just a game, but its a game (Not necessary to rull, you cant loose char as in game option, not even item unless pk too much... no punishments at all such as prison, injure and etc) How can any one other than rmn s kind be in that clan lol?! Really its better to never farm a dragon than see Tron and Truffel with same clan crest as your...

My CP>all people mentioned, anyways that seige yesterday was too easy. Thanks for the compliments although its a bit of a reach.
Crystall (Aka Alectia) when you're right you're right.

The only problem is, you haven't been right in any of your BW-Enigma Fanboi ranting posts yet.

It's clear you have a LOT of pent up anger (Shin that's you too bud).

Might I suggest a two week break this Holiday? Enjoy X-Mas or w/e Holiday and completely avoid the game for a bit.
Crystall (Aka Alectia) when you're right you're right.

The only problem is, you haven't been right in any of your BW-Enigma Fanboi ranting posts yet.

It's clear you have a LOT of pent up anger (Shin that's you too bud).

Might I suggest a two week break this Holiday? Enjoy X-Mas or w/e Holiday and completely avoid the game for a bit.
Thanks, really... I really need a break for a while...
But 1 correction, I already didnot log at all for about 20 days...he he he...
Exams lol, but I guess I need rest some more, maybe change game also...
P.S I am killtime, coffetime fanboy bcs they were most fair in drop share I ever saw...
I am amazed with xTevasx, born and some other, bcs they are great players...
I even was truffle fanboy unless he showed how big animal he was...
But I never was bws fan, specially clockworks... lol he is in my blocklist as I remember...
It's really funny how clueless you're, Alectia. You say how we don't gear our members and how its all about greed. I've been doing raids for months and not taking anything from the clan, but simply helping our members. You're not in our clan so obviously you know nothing about whats going on. All you do know about is the propaganda people put on world shout or what people pm you in order to create drama in hopes that people will leave KG. Even ask our ally members, we do 50/50 split between both the clans even since the merge happened. I don't play this game to be greedy. I'm not selfish and I work hard to help others. At the end of the day, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks, because it doesn't matter. Your opinions aren't going to ruin my day. I just continue to laugh at your false views.
Omg! Facepalm... really!
I am not receiving instruction from any one... No one order me to create drama... Actually I also dont think that my mind is under coffetimes control... I am not puppet as you call me...
All I want to say is built by using simple logic + my own personal behaviour and ambitions...
I agree that I cant be 100% fair to you because I simple hate you!
If you want get my attention, you must do simple thing called STOP LIE... You lie and lie nonestop... so unless you stop no point to make any discussion...
Actually you can simple ignore me, because after all you are strong animals...
Сила есть ума не надо! Google translate it...

Well I just want you answer some questions... We had ally....
You were mercilessly killing me in gainak, you were killing me during siege... You were blame me in pm/ally/ts and even world/hero channels most ridiculous blames none stop...You were pk me in open fields... You were none stop (asking!) Coffee to kick me from my clan...
In 1 month after ally broke, I had pm with truffle and he said like: dw Alectia, nothing personal... It was all coffeetimes fault... (was it bcs truffle saw that I am way stronger than 80% oddity?)
Now you talk here like: poor stupid Alectia is in bad clan, which manipulate him and keep him in illusions... No no no and again no!
I can never accept it!

Well tell here what you think about me?! I am fair with you and you only lie...

Now next, You were mercilessly killing me for 1 gainak spot once a day... And now you farm gainak with 3 clans and half server... Tell me why? If I was so BAD and didnot deserve...
And now you farm each gainak, with 3 clan and half server, from which 90% are weaker than me!! Wtf?! Why you did all this things with me than?! I not only feel myself betrayed, I feel myself greatly disrespected! You also greatly affected my pride!
So now when I see how you not dare to touch any ephemeral! Its hurt you know!
By using your greed and your stupid, you just removed gainak from yourself... hilarious!

So tell me why this happen?!

I use my logic = stupid arrogant Tron overpriced itself, and controlled by its own greed broke ally... Than it saw that was weak and agree any ally to keep control server (half server ally)
Now it scare and dont dare do same like was in previous ally, just bcs has no choice!
It trying invite as much as he can to attempt break ally and remain dragons, but he failing... And dye to his total incompetence and greed even lost most powerfull cp which was absolutely loyal! So now being trapped you keep QQ, and forced to share with Graven, Fooz... and simple lick them, bcs no other choice remain... Well man you deserve way worse than it for sure... But your half server ally is so nosence and so funny! He he he...
(I start with Tron=it, and end with he... sorry for (mistake))

Now, why I say that Tron is scammer, while never was in this clan... Well I will not lie if say that I know 2 persons who were in oddity for over 8 month, and as they were like my box heal at start they remain same till the end, but I wont talk about it...
Again logic... Tron betrayed his ally when it controlled server... For what?!
Of course for items! Bcs he refuse to share with bad Meyani and bad enigma! Actually he agree it here!
So he scare and ally pve clan of graven and fooz crew instead of meyani and bad enigma!
And there all was more or less clean! Maybe he really prefer fooz and graven instead of meyani and enigma... Donno how can it be, after this guys for over 10 month every day blamed each others everywhere! (Fooz and tron...) Well honest and self respect not exist in their (hearts) he he he... How should Truffle say it: nothing personal? Omg omg! Facepalm...
So fooz took meyanis part of drop (its so so so Funny when those Foozs, rds, rufios and etc say like we pro, and qq whole day: lf pvp, while stay in half server zerg ally for items which they not even need! They already fully geared with power of mastercard lol, looks like their (honest) gone together with america (players name) Guys how you ever resist yourself! he he he!)
and graven took enigmas part!

But than start circus!

Ephemerals perfectly used this situation and greatly enlarged their clan... Gz to Graven!
But oddity also start to invite everything... include all enigmas who asked for it...
Now logic question... Why?! Tron now say that he share drop fair?! Is he mother Teresa lol?! How it?!
So he recreate ally bcs of internal conflict... ok... but make this ally twice larger?! And keep share?! Ofc no!
Ofc he now will scam meatshields he invited in clan... It just cant be otherwise... And he already start... bb phantera cp bcs they dare to ask for drop... Actually I was ok as well, unless asked for gainak...


I just see its all, I am fair in anything I say... I swear! Its just a simple logic... Consider all this ridiculous insults they do in world chat every day about any valuable person who not serve them! From which 90% is lie! They are even worse than I called them... Once traitor always traitor...
being in their clan is pointless time loosing... I not play 20 days, realize things better and only hate them even more...
I just want to avoid hypocrisy! Thats why refused join them from start and on purpose! I am not like Healena to join clan being sure that 80% of it will be scammed! Fuu I refuse even to imagine it... Better is to never see dragon! Be in one clan with all those incompetent, stupid, arrogant, noob, jerk, coward, scammer, liers, lickers, and traitors... better to delete character! I respect myself... If I ever decide to come back here, I will keep play a real game and try to help create good ally w/o all those Trons! Real game where win is win and loose is loose! W/o selling yourself like ********** and licking!...

Well I was fair... now I wanna see how (fair) will be any of those (Trons)
Facepalm...
I am not receiving instruction from any one... No one order me to create drama... Actually I also dont think that my mind is under coffetimes control... I am not puppet as you call me...
All I want to say is built by using simple logic + my own personal behaviour and ambitions...
I agree that I cant be 100% fair to you because I simple hate you!
If you want get my attention, you must do simple thing called STOP LIE... You lie and lie nonestop... so unless you stop no point to make any discussion...
Actually you can simple ignore me, because after all you are strong animals...
Сила есть ума не надо! Google translate it...

Well I just want you answer some questions... We had ally....
You were mercilessly killing me in gainak, you were killing me during siege... You were blame me in pm/ally/ts and even world/hero channels most ridiculous blames none stop...You were pk me in open fields... You were none stop (asking!) Coffee to kick me from my clan...
In 1 month after ally broke, I had pm with truffle and he said like: dw Alectia, nothing personal... It was all coffeetimes fault... (was it bcs truffle saw that I am way stronger than 80% oddity?)
Now you talk here like: poor stupid Alectia is in bad clan, which manipulate him and keep him in illusions... No no no and again no! I can never accept it!

Well tell here what you think about me?! I am fair with you and you only lie...

Now next, You were mercilessly killing me for 1 gainak spot once a day... And now you farm gainak with 3 clans and half server... Tell me why? If I was so BAD and didnot deserve...
And now you farm each gainak, with 3 clan and half server, from which 90% are weaker than me!! Wtf?! Why you did all this things with me than?! I not only feel myself betrayed, I feel myself greatly disrespected! You also greatly affected my pride!
So now when I see how you not dare to touch any ephemeral! Its hurt you know!
By using your greed and your stupid, you just removed gainak from yourself... hilarious!

So tell me why this happen?!

I use my logic = stupid arrogant Tron overpriced itself, and controlled by its own greed broke ally... Than it saw that was weak and agree any ally to keep control server (half server ally)
Now it scare and dont dare do same like was in previous ally, just bcs has no choice!
It trying invite as much as he can to attempt break ally and remain dragons, but he failing... And dye to his total incompetence and greed even lost most powerfull cp which was absolutely loyal! So now being trapped you keep QQ, and forced to share with Graven, Fooz... and simple lick them, bcs no other choice remain... Well man you deserve way worse than it for sure... But your half server ally is so nosence and so funny! He he he...
(I start with Tron=it, and end with he... sorry for (mistake))

Now, why I say that Tron is scammer, while never was in this clan... Well I will not lie if say that I know 2 persons who were in oddity for over 8 month, and as they were like my box heal at start they remain same till the end, but I wont talk about it...
Again logic... Tron betrayed his ally when it controlled server... For what?!
Of course for items! Bcs he refuse to share with bad Meyani and bad enigma! Actually he agree it here!
So he scare and ally pve clan of graven and fooz crew instead of meyani and bad enigma!
And there all was more or less clean! Maybe he really prefer fooz and graven instead of meyani and enigma...
So fooz took meyanis part of drop and graven enigmas!
But than start circus!
Ephemerals perfectly used this situation and greatly enlarged their clan... Gz to Graven!
But oddity also start to invite everything... include all enigmas who asked for it...
Now logic question... Why?! Tron now say that he share drop fair?! Is he mother Teresa lol?! How it?!
So he recreate ally bcs of internal conflict... ok... but make this ally twice larger?! And keep share?! Ofc no!
Ofc he now will scam meatshields he invited in clan... It just cant be otherwise...


You dumb **** what strong cp are you taking about? Wings? Lol that cp is far from powerful in fact it's totally useless. Their main dd is a nuker, their iss has no br or Pom, their healer gets hit 200k by our dds. On top of that they did nothing to help with clan when they were here. Get your facts straight.
I'm ashamed to admit it, but somehow I actually read that rambling long and inaccurate post.

I welcome Truffle/Jon/Tron/Rufio, and anyone from our ally to correct me if I get something wrong in the following TLDR:

Enigma/Oddity Ally, Oddity is called upon to cover Enigma for pvp skirmishes, battles, sieges etc. Enigma makes large demands upon alliance for a greater share of the loot, and(or) sends Meyani his "tribute" which he quickly RMTs. These factors lead to Oddity looking for a new partnership.

Oddity approaches LB/Ephemeral and forms an alliance. Loot is distributed, and all parties involved get along greatly and the alliance flourishes.

Sour and crew become disenfranchised when not awarded loot they deemed they deserved, leave clan. Try and re-form HT, and instead form into BW. BW sides itself with Crows (BrothersBR), CFH, CM, and anyone else willing to try and fight Oddity.

Oddity renames itself KG, and invites LB/Ephemeral to send their geared PVP members to form under one tag, while sending under geared members and PVE members to Ephemeral.

This accomplishes two things:

1) Lower level members can grind in peace, PVE minded individuals can avoid PVP and pursue their PVE-oriented interests.

2) Geared/PVP-oriented members can participate in wars, dim siege, siege, and more importantly not worry about AOE'ing in mass pvp and causing friendly fire incidents (Something Alectia apparently is still upset about in Gainak).

Server essentially has two factions KG/Ephemeral and BW/Crows/CFH/CM/<insert anyone else willing>.

KG/Ephemeral continue to flourish and work equally to grow/gear players and increase in power.

Alectia/Killtime/Crystall continues to complain and attempt to propagate false information in an attempt to ... well no one really knows why actually.

Because at this point its clear which faction has a stronger base, has the means to continue to grow/gear that base, and continues to work fluidly and effectively.

Oh and to address the original point of this thread, publicly attempting to portay your clan leadership in a negative light.. lead to your dismissal. As someone who invests a LOT of extra time outside of game to provide coordination and organization to my clan, I completely understand the annoyance of having someone trying to discredit you, especially while you're doing everything behind the scenes to guarantee the clan's success.

Hopefully this clears up any misconceptions and will end these useless/tireless/ridiculous/sad rants.

/Thread over
Alectia is crystall... killtime never said anything here... Let me have instant death from heartattack if I lie in anything from what I said...
this idiot luczin who admit only that phantera cp is bad and useless from my entire post...
What more proof you want?!
You idiot! Ok god **** that I almost 1 hit 80% oddity and still being useless as they call me lol...
but phantera cp which is one of the best?! Facepalm really...
Ohfuggle! You know why! Oddity betray us! They are jerks and traitors... I once asked you, stay away to not be under crossfire... Once traitor always traitors... soon or later you will understand it... hope soon!
Alectia is crystall... killtime never said anything here... Let me have instant death from heartattack if I lie in anything from what I said...
this idiot luczin who admit only that phantera cp is bad and useless from my entire post...
What more proof you want?!
You idiot! Ok god **** that I almost 1 hit 80% oddity and still being useless as they call me lol...
but phantera cp which is one of the best?! Facepalm really...
Ohfuggle! You know why! Oddity betray us! They are jerks and traitors... I once asked you, stay away to not be under crossfire... Once traitor always traitors... soon or later you will understand it... hope soon!

You can plead to ohfuggle all you want. Guess what, they wouldn't want to share drops with a rmt er either, so good luck with that. You keep saying how strong phantera cp is just proves what a faking moron you are.
Alectia is crystall... killtime never said anything here... Let me have instant death from heartattack if I lie in anything from what I said...
this idiot luczin who admit only that phantera cp is bad and useless from my entire post...
What more proof you want?!
You idiot! Ok god **** that I almost 1 hit 80% oddity and still being useless as they call me lol...
but phantera cp which is one of the best?! Facepalm really...
Ohfuggle! You know why! Oddity betray us! They are jerks and traitors... I once asked you, stay away to not be under crossfire... Once traitor always traitors... soon or later you will understand it... hope soon!


How can you say we betrayed your clan when KillTime is the one who kicked us from the alliance. After we got kicked, we pursued other interests as any clan would do. You really have no logic at all. Not to mention BornInHell was the one pking our clan members a few days prior to being kicked. Do your research before you post things publicly making yourself look even more ignorant than you already are.
Enigma/Oddity Ally, Oddity is called upon to cover Enigma for pvp skirmishes, battles, sieges etc. Enigma makes large demands upon alliance for a greater share of the loot, and(or) sends Meyani his "tribute" which he quickly RMTs. These factors lead to Oddity looking for a new partnership.

Oddity approaches LB/Ephemeral and forms an alliance. Loot is distributed, and all parties involved get along greatly and the alliance flourishes.

Hopefully this clears up any misconceptions and will end these useless/tireless/ridiculous/sad rants.
I am so tired of Players switching facts upside down into their own advantage. I see alot of Players who try to explain like they know exactly what happened between KT, CT, Tron en TB, as I can tell, none of you were at those Meetings, so stop talking about things you don't have a clue about.

It was BingBing who left Genocide and merged into HighTimers and asked Enigma to join the Alliance. They needed Enigma for the numbers to enter at Dragons and Meyani's DPS to kill them. Enigma never asked anyone to cover for them in PvP, since we were mainly PvE. Enigma never demanded any greater share of the loot. It was 1/3th for every Clan in the Alliance at that time, as it has been ever since Oddity got kicked in August. It was TRUFFLEBUTTER who was angry and came into our TS and demanded a 50/50 share of the loot, especially about Lilith and Anakim. We had Meetings at the beginning and agreed on all terms, with all three Clan Leaders. It was when HighTimers disbanded and merged in Oddity when the hell broke loose. Ever since BingBing got banned certain Players in Oddity wanted more and more for themselves, for little amount of effort in return.

KillTime and me were very clear about Lilith and Anakim. If you bring 25% of the amount of Players in the CC, you will get 25% of the Loot at the end of the month. Tron agreed as Clan Leader and TRUFFLEBUTTER was angry ever since, and it was he who turned words upside down in every Hero, World, Clan and Forum shout. Trying to find all sorts of excuses he started blaming Meyani, BornInHell and even KillTime and me for RMT in July/August. So he got what he wanted, a kick from the Alliance. He finally could continue with Ephemeral as planned for a long time, as he told and threatened in our own TS in July.

I never showed any of the Regular Enigma Members the following two screenshots. It shows you how we did the Loot Distribution between Enigma and HighTimers Leadership, which both agreed upon:

Lilith & Anakim June (http://imgur.com/fYfxrvs)
Lilith & Anakim July (http://imgur.com/uQWxJP5)

Yet TRUFFLEBUTTER still demands a 50/50 distribution, for little amount of effort they did back in return. They never brought more Players in CC as you can see in both screenshots. It was a joke. Yet he shouts like a pathological liar nonsense every day of the week the past few months.

The biggest backstab was Oddity who contacted Ephemeral to start create Anakim/Lilith Characters a couple of weeks before the Alliance broke. They planned it all to intentionally backstab us from the start, because they only brought 25% of the Characters and wanted a 50/50 share. All I see was Greed. It was all the same with QA and Kelbim after BingBing got banned.

Ever Since Tron/TRUFFLEBUTTER CP killed Kelbim/QA non-stop after BingBing got banned they never shared a thing to the Clan. IT was all under control by less then 2 CP. It was Tron who sold those Items for Adena for his CP. When TRUFFLEBUTTER was not online it was other Players like Tron, Strok and others who cried to BornInHell and xTEVASx in our TS to come help kill Kelbim. They did so for many times and we received only one Kelbim Fragment, which we gave to Domenica, who was not even there at the time. These are just examples of counter-effects. They gave no balls to distribute on Kelbim and yet demanded alot in Lilith and Anakim in return.

Enigma Distribution List Total as seen in our Enigma Forums:

17 Queen Ant Soul Bottles (5 out of 17 to my CP);
7 Bottle of Baium's Soul (3 out of 7 to my CP);
12 Bloody Amaranthine Enhancement Stones (4 out of 12 to my CP);
9 Scroll of Blessing: (R99-grade) (2 out of 9 to my CP);
19 Talisman - Anakim (3 out of 19 to my CP);
11 Talisman - Lilith (3 out of 9 to my CP);
6 Seven Signs' Energy (2 out of 6 to my CP).

Yet there are Players calling KillTime and me a scammer. GL and I hope you will have a better time in KG. I am disappointed about KG-members and ex-Enigma calling me a Scammer, which I am not. I farmed a ton of RB every since this Server started. You can ask xTEVASx and KillTime. Or check my Raid Points (http://imgur.com/I66CTOf). I already spended 200.000 for Clan Reputation Points exchange. Players have no right to accuse me or speak lies about things they have no clue about what I did. I farmed more RB then 95% of the Zaken Players will ever see in a lifetime.

Good Luck all!
Arguments over drops are not why we got kicked, its why we wouldve eventually left.

We got kicked because SoloInHell would PK our clan members who tried to do 101s/Mimir. So we in return PK'd SoloInHell at 103s, he cried to KT who came and saw me and truffle red to which he returned to town and kicked us.

If that would have not happened, KT would not have kicked us. That is the one and only reason we were kicked from alliance. We wouldve left sometime shortly after that event anyway had we not been kicked, lilith and anakim is one thing but the drops that were complained about was targeted at dragons where RMTyani got 1/3 of the drops for 1/10 of the toons loaded and 1/5 of the damage. We were told we could not do a dragon with our damage but we do them 2x as fast without the lowbies from Enigma.

KG+Ephemeral is the strongest alliance the server has seen to date and the friendliest thus far, we dont argue over stupid **** as everyone knows their place. Unlike the lowbies in enigma who were the ones who felt entitled.
I am so tired of Players switching facts upside down into their own advantage. I see alot of Players who try to explain like they know exactly what happened between KT, CT, Tron en TB, as I can tell, none of you were at those Meetings, so stop talking about things you don't have a clue about.

It was BingBing who left Genocide and merged into HighTimers and asked Enigma to join the Alliance. They needed Enigma for the numbers to enter at Dragons and Meyani's DPS to kill them. Enigma never asked anyone to cover for them in PvP, since we were mainly PvE. Enigma never demanded any greater share of the loot. It was 1/3th for every Clan in the Alliance at that time, as it has been ever since Oddity got kicked in August. It was TRUFFLEBUTTER who was angry and came into our TS and demanded a 50/50 share of the loot, especially about Lilith and Anakim. We had Meetings at the beginning and agreed on all terms, with all three Clan Leaders. It was when HighTimers disbanded and merged in Oddity when the hell broke loose. Ever since BingBing got banned certain Players in Oddity wanted more and more for themselves, for little amount of effort in return.

KillTime and me were very clear about Lilith and Anakim. If you bring 25% of the amount of Players in the CC, you will get 25% of the Loot at the end of the month. Tron agreed as Clan Leader and TRUFFLEBUTTER was angry ever since, and it was he who turned words upside down in every Hero, World, Clan and Forum shout. Trying to find all sorts of excuses he started blaming Meyani, BornInHell and even KillTime and me for RMT in July/August. So he got what he wanted, a kick from the Alliance. He finally could continue with Ephemeral as planned for a long time, as he told and threatened in our own TS in July.

I never showed any of the Regular Enigma Members the following two screenshots. It shows you how we did the Loot Distribution between Enigma and HighTimers Leadership, which both agreed upon:

Lilith & Anakim June (http://imgur.com/fYfxrvs)
Lilith & Anakim July (http://imgur.com/uQWxJP5)

Yet TRUFFLEBUTTER still demands a 50/50 distribution, for little amount of effort they did back in return. They never brought more Players in CC as you can see in both screenshots. It was a joke. Yet he shouts like a pathological liar nonsense every day of the week the past few months.

The biggest backstab was Oddity who contacted Ephemeral to start create Anakim/Lilith Characters a couple of weeks before the Alliance broke. They planned it all to intentionally backstab us from the start, because they only brought 25% of the Characters and wanted a 50/50 share. All I see was Greed. It was all the same with QA and Kelbim after BingBing got banned.

Ever Since Tron/TRUFFLEBUTTER CP killed Kelbim/QA non-stop after BingBing got banned they never shared a thing to the Clan. IT was all under control by less then 2 CP. It was Tron who sold those Items for Adena for his CP. When TRUFFLEBUTTER was not online it was other Players like Tron, Strok and others who cried to BornInHell and xTEVASx in our TS to come help kill Kelbim. They did so for many times and we received only one Kelbim Fragment, which we gave to Domenica, who was not even there at the time. These are just examples of counter-effects. They gave no balls to distribute on Kelbim and yet demanded alot in Lilith and Anakim in return.

Enigma Distribution List Total as seen in our Enigma Forums:

17 Queen Ant Soul Bottles (5 out of 17 to my CP);
7 Bottle of Baium's Soul (3 out of 7 to my CP);
12 Bloody Amaranthine Enhancement Stones (4 out of 12 to my CP);
9 Scroll of Blessing: (R99-grade) (2 out of 9 to my CP);
19 Talisman - Anakim (3 out of 19 to my CP);
11 Talisman - Lilith (3 out of 9 to my CP);
6 Seven Signs' Energy (2 out of 6 to my CP).

Yet there are Players calling KillTime and me a scammer. GL and I hope you will have a better time in KG. I am disappointed about KG-members and ex-Enigma calling me a Scammer, which I am not. I farmed a ton of RB every since this Server started. You can ask xTEVASx and KillTime. Or check my Raid Points (http://imgur.com/I66CTOf). I already spended 200.000 for Clan Reputation Points exchange. Players have no right to accuse me or speak lies about things they have no clue about what I did. I farmed more RB then 95% of the Zaken Players will ever see in a lifetime.

Good Luck all!


Please provide proof of me selling any QA Drops or Kelbim drops. I've taken 2 QA rings for myself since we started farming those raids, the rest were given to CP's/Players for helping including your clan members who came and helped out. In the entire time of farming Kelbim I've taken one fragment for myself. More propaganda on your part, Coffee. Also, coming to your TS and crying for born to come help???? I've never once asked for born to come help me kill any raid on the server. Your clan came and helped out one time, and when you did born decided to come and help you, and he cried about it the entire time. Get your facts straight, and quit the lies.

P.S: I offered to KillTime to alternate the fragments, and he told me directly that I didn't need to do that because you guys were farming baium, and we would continue to farm Kelbim and it was the fairest way to do it. The fragment you're speaking of is the one time your clan came to help,. We for sure did it other times with Enigma, but your clan never helped on DPS, only helped with a few toons to load in. I even offered people things as KillTime suggested and people didn't want anything. Again more lies and non sense from you coffee.
I kind of feel myself in alternative reality! Tron here really said that he was kicked by bad killtime bcs pk borninhell 1 time?
All the time I played l2 I knew my enemies logic... but here... Really I am confused, I lost sense of Trons logic long ago... The only logic is that Tron is arrogant, dishonest, stupid, noob, liar, greed, traitor, coward, scammer and jerk... I can proof each of it... its looks like Tron is kid with credit card, and dont has a sence about what he do...
Well I was in enigma from start... I saw all things...

Specially how we entered lindwior 4 times w/o bad meyani and 4 times was fail... its bad meyani with xtevasx and bad born were killing dragons and took 30% drop... 10 month meyani was ok and than become bad... Its called betray!

All start together with hungry horse event, when Tron crew used full power of credit cards and feel their (power)...
As coffee said... oddity had 1/3 dragon drop, 1/2 lilith anakim, every kelbim, most aq, and gainak...
The most stupid is that coffee did all to remain this ally...
his patience is really amazing... when now Tron say that stupid killtime kicked them from ally, I just want laugh... There was battles during gainak btw oddity and enigma... battles bcs I simple ask for 1 gainak spot once a day... This ally was pointless bcs of oddity... I just wonder that most enigmas were so spineless and left server while some of them even joined oddity... fuu lol...
Coffee gave them kelbim, gainak and most aq ns and took only baium...
I payed 10kkk for kelbim dagger, bcs of it...
As result of all Trons greed and stupid, he is now in half servers ally together with his enemies, lick them, take twice less than before is forced to be nice guy :p and only can scam his poor clan! and surrounded by angry players which will be even stronger soon...
Prepare to loose this few you getting now lol...
I kind of feel myself in alternative reality! Tron here really said that he was kicked by bad killtime bcs pk borninhell 1 time?
All the time I played l2 I knew my enemies logic... but here... Really I am confused, I lost sense of Trons logic long ago... The only logic is that Tron is arrogant, dishonest, stupid, noob, liar, greed, traitor, coward, scammer and jerk... I can proof each of it...
Well I was in enigma from start... I saw all things...

Specially how we entered lindwior 4 times w/o bad meyani and 4 times was fail... its bad meyani with xtevasx and bad born were killing dragons and took 30% drop... 10 month meyani was ok and than become bad... Its called betray!

All start together with hungry horse event, when Tron crew used full power of credit cards and feel their (power)...
As coffee said... oddity had 1/3 dragon drop, 1/2 lilith anakim, every kelbim, most aq, and gainak...
The most stupid is that coffee did all to remain this ally...
his patience is really amazing... when now Tron say that stupid killtime kicked them from ally, I just want laugh... There was battles during gainak btw oddity and enigma... battles bcs I simple ask for 1 gainak spot once a day... This ally was pointless bcs of oddity... I just wonder that most enigmas were so spineless and left server while some of them even joined oddity... fuu lol...
Coffee gave them kelbim, gainak and most aq ns and took only baium...
I payed 10kkk for kelbim dagger, bcs of it...

You have no idea what you are talking about. We did not enter lindy 4 times and were unable to kill without meyani lol. There was however a time when oddity clan by itself (boundless came), killed lindy without meyani or enigma clan, and yet we still gave enigma some of the drops. We asked born, tevas, meyani to come kill but they refused, so we did it without them, EZ. At least point it was clear, we were the ones carrying the ally, not meyani or born.

Yes we were kicked from ally for pking born. I was in the group at the 103s when we did it, and 2 minutes later killtime ported out to cromais and then we were kicked from ally.

You didn't deserve one ganiak spot. Enigma doesn't pvp, and they never helped when we needed help against netflix's scripts.

You really have no clue what you are talking about.
I just said that there is no point to join oddity and here is logic reason for it...
Tron betray previous ally to get more drops! But he did it in worse way ever! Now he share to Fooz more than to Meyani, share to Graven more than to Coffee...And almost become salty bcs of it... Surrounded by bw... And has like 150% more players than before! He is not mother Teresa! He will not share! Ppls who joined oddity except like 5-10 are noobs... doesnot matter what crest you have if you are considered as oddity... Dont waste your time for nothing... better join to graven clan... seriously! Use your mind... its simple logic lol...
Arguments over drops are not why we got kicked, its why we wouldve eventually left.

We got kicked because SoloInHell would PK our clan members who tried to do 101s/Mimir. So we in return PK'd SoloInHell at 103s, he cried to KT who came and saw me and truffle red to which he returned to town and kicked us.

If that would have not happened, KT would not have kicked us. That is the one and only reason we were kicked from alliance. We wouldve left sometime shortly after that event anyway had we not been kicked, lilith and anakim is one thing but the drops that were complained about was targeted at dragons where RMTyani got 1/3 of the drops for 1/10 of the toons loaded and 1/5 of the damage. We were told we could not do a dragon with our damage but we do them 2x as fast without the lowbies from Enigma.

KG+Ephemeral is the strongest alliance the server has seen to date and the friendliest thus far, we dont argue over stupid **** as everyone knows their place. Unlike the lowbies in enigma who were the ones who felt entitled.

You were kicked from Enigma because they wanted complete control.

Friendliest? No.

There is no one else playing the server. Don't forget there is no competition and KG almost lost a CP recently because of loot share issues. Until this server sees an actual leader lineage 2 will still be stale on Zaken. Well I suppose Graven is the only genuine leader but he is a new generation player so there could still be better opportunity for the people playing this game on this server.

and "everyone knows their place"? ....that mentality is part of the problem.

Until mentally stable players like myself can get off of this server it will be driven by the circle of profiteers.
You were kicked from Enigma because they wanted complete control.

Friendliest? No.

There is no one else playing the server. Don't forget there is no competition and KG almost lost a CP recently because of loot share issues. Until this server sees an actual leader lineage 2 will still be stale on Zaken. Well I suppose Graven is the only genuine leader but he is a new generation player so there could still be better opportunity for the people playing this game on this server.

and "everyone knows their place"? ....that mentality is part of the problem.

Until mentally stable players like myself can get off of this server it will be driven by the circle of profiteers.

We did not almost lose a cp. one guy rage quit, he was right to do so imo, but his cp was going no where. Guess what he retagged a day later. I love how people try to point to all these fake drama stories, because they just can't imagine a clan being run fairly and as well as kg.
I just wonder about those mindless guys like johnsnow(luczin) or wtf he is...
seriously, first time I deal with such ppls...
So hard to realize this (logic)
Luczin: Alectia is useless noob, wingedfreak is useless, so useless that they are even harmful to keep such noobs in clan... so consider this logic any one who are weaker than Alectia, are useless noobs (Wingedfreak stronger than me)...
But I can kill 80% of oddity within 1-3 sec... wingedfreak 95% in 1 sec... So again, consider this logic 80% oddity s are ultra useless noobs... which should be kicked from clan...

Now if ANY ONE who is weaker than me read it and keep stay in this (clan)...
Is not he noob licker who not even respect himself?...
It looks like I blame, entire clan... but for sure its them blamed themselves when stay there...
We did not almost lose a cp. one guy rage quit, he was right to do so imo, but his cp was going no where. Guess what he retagged a day later. I love how people try to point to all these fake drama stories, because they just can't imagine a clan being run fairly and as well as kg.

That is not a made up story. If your clan was run as a clan should be then you would not have someone "Rage quit".

"just can't imagine a clan being run fairly and as well as kg" - That is not real. If KG could script Pvp they would. Tron/Truffle would allow this. I wouldn't be surprised if players are back at 3rd party pvp again.
I just wonder about those mindless guys like johnsnow(luczin) or wtf he is...
seriously, first time I deal with such ppls...
So hard to realize this (logic)
Luczin: Alectia is useless noob, wingedfreak is useless, so useless that they are even harmful to keep such noobs in clan... so consider this logic any one who are weaker than Alectia, are useless noobs (Wingedfreak stronger than me)...
But I can kill 80% of oddity within 1-3 sec... wingedfreak 95% in 1 sec... So again, consider this logic 80% oddity s are ultra useless noobs... which should be kicked from clan...

Now if ANY ONE who is weaker than me read it and keep stay in this (clan)...
Is not he noob licker who not even respect himself?...
It looks like I blame, entire clan... but for sure its them blamed themselves when stay there...


This made up stuff about you being stronger than anyone in kg let alone 80% is laughable.

Wing doesn't kill anyone in 1 second you're so delusional.
That is not a made up story. If your clan was run as a clan should be then you would not have someone "Rage quit".

"just can't imagine a clan being run fairly and as well as kg" - That is not real.

I was in ts when it went down, you don't know what you are talking about. Some people are more emotional than others, and no matter what will get upset, no matter how well things are run. Simple human behavior.
I was in ts when it went down, you don't know what you are talking about. Some people are more emotional than others, and no matter what will get upset, no matter how well things are run. Simple human behavior.

Well when a CP does not get fair loot share for 2 months + then there is going to be an issue. The clan chose to be fair to that particular CP this time because prior they were not being fair. That means there was a problem and a it probably will not be the last time. As I said before the only reason KG and BW exist are because people have no where else to go. World/Hero shout proves enough.
Clueless, ignorant, poor puppet whichs mind is under bad coffee control...
I scare really! Tron stop it! Please spare my mind...omg!
As soon as I asked like pls let me some farm at gainak, you start mercilessly showing me full power of your pay!
Man you were nonestop killing me at gainak, you were killing me during siege nonestop(when we had ally), Truffel killed me 50 times unless I pressed to clan hall...
You were attacking me in open fields for pk... You were insulting me none stop in any channel include ts... starting that I am useless noob end with most ridiculous blames...
You were nonestop asking Coffee to kick me from clan... by yourselves and by using some enigmas as well... As soon as ally broke, first thing you done were go gainak and for about 40 min half oddity qq in every chat like: hey Alectia come gainak we have your spot free...
Well you did all of that... From all time I play l2, no one, never was so merciless to me...
And in 1 month when truffle said like: dw Alectia, nothing personal... when you say that it all was killtimes fault and I am just clueless puppet... Omg omg, facepalm...
Can you at least one time be fair and dont lie?! TRON?!

Tell what you think about me and why?! Omg!

You said Alectia and enigmas dont deserve 1 gainak spot once a day, bcs were weak and didnot helped in past gainaks vs nets scripts... So you ignore any ally decision and attacked your ally!
But now you farm gainak with nets with ephemerals vs bw... more than half server farm gainak now lol...
And you not dare touch fooz or any ephemeral from which 80% are weaker than me...
How it?! What kind of respect can I have toward you?!

Tell me why?! Why you did it?! Is it really to reach a goal and not let me farm gainak...?!
Goal which you fail to reach... bcs I sold more than 12 dark stones and have 1000+ elixirs...

You say that you not gonna scam your clan... But you betray ally to get more items... As result you get way less items and forced to share btw more clans... in additional your clan has 2,5 times more players than before...

You again will say that not gonna scam your clan?! Really?! Where is logic? Are you mother Teresa?!

And at the end tell me, why you did it all?! Does it worth to betray previous ally which was loyal and respected you, just bcs you had greed, arrogance, butthurt?! Are you happy now in one clan with Fooz and with Coffeetime as enemy?!
Please provide proof of me selling any QA Drops or Kelbim drops. I've taken 2 QA rings for myself since we started farming those raids, the rest were given to CP's/Players for helping including your clan members who came and helped out. In the entire time of farming Kelbim I've taken one fragment for myself. More propaganda on your part, Coffee. Also, coming to your TS and crying for born to come help???? I've never once asked for born to come help me kill any raid on the server. Your clan came and helped out one time, and when you did born decided to come and help you, and he cried about it the entire time. Get your facts straight, and quit the lies.

P.S: I offered to KillTime to alternate the fragments, and he told me directly that I didn't need to do that because you guys were farming baium, and we would continue to farm Kelbim and it was the fairest way to do it. The fragment you're speaking of is the one time your clan came to help,. We for sure did it other times with Enigma, but your clan never helped on DPS, only helped with a few toons to load in. I even offered people things as KillTime suggested and people didn't want anything. Again more lies and non sense from you coffee.
These are just examples of counter-effects.
As said these are just written examples. What I tried so say in my language was as counter-effects. Did you see us complain when we did Queen Ant with you? For every person you brought we had 5 Enigma Players standing at Queen Ant. We were outnumbering you even there. Healena provided all the Screenshots/Info from every single QA kill. Did you see us complain when we did Kelbim with you? Every time when TRUFFLEBUTTER was off you tried to reach me in TS Chat asking if KillTime, xTEVASx was online or even BornInHell in worst case timezone scenario's. Also you asked constantly to other 100+ Enigma Players to login Boxes for you to enter. Did you see us complain then? Hell No! I even went there 3 times to help you in EU Timezone FFS. Did I complain? Never.

We asked your Clan, if you were interested to join us and kill Lilith and Anakim with agreed upon Rules. The amount of average Players you brought equals the amount of % loot share at the end of the month. Yet you all complained like little babies the month after. You wanted more, more, more for less then 2 CP that logged in Boxes from KG Clan. Those two screenshots don't lie about your participation. You already forgot I had a Topic in our Forum asking who's Alt Character was Who? I knew exactly who was there and who was not. You even said so yourself on TS you were boxing alot of CP Members and vice versa.

About the Kelbim Atelia Fragments. I guess you already forgot it was you making Hero Shouts WTS. I told you before, and even asked you, is someone else playing your Account last week. It's because from the same Tron Account in Hero shouts came words such as KillTime and CoffeeTime farm Dark Stones and RMT the Adena. You are like Batmans Mr. 2-Face. You don't even remember half of the things you are saying anymore in Hero shouts.

I am proud that BloodWatch managed to take Aden Castle for just two weeks to proof another point. I was shocked to see the amount of Adena it produces per week on a dead Server such as Zaken. I remember a conversation of the first Castle Siege as Alliance you took Aden and we took Rune ourselves. We discussed about Taxes. You both said it was not worth to tell, because it was like peanuts 1b maybe 2b. Well, I was shocked to hear it was on average ~5b per 7-days. I asked around in KG Clan, and alot did not even know it was this much. Expected, as I said.

Well Good Luck! Christmas Holidays are comming to town!
We asked born, tevas, meyani to come kill but they refused, so we did it without them, EZ. At least point it was clear, we were the ones carrying the ally, not meyani or born.
Yet another excuse has born by a VIP Member of KG Clan.

They never refused. You should have said this instead. It was your leadership who told us one hour before the start of Lindvior that they wanted to go Dimensional Siege first before going to Lindvior. Do you think Players who login on agreed time, wait another 2-hours? The previous times we always went to Lindvior right after we killed Baium, you remember right? Since Baium spawns at midnight for most Europeans you demanded them to wait another 2-hours, because you wanted to go Dimensional Siege first.

Geez.
Alectia, you talk too much to address each point but the main point you keep bringing up is killing 80% oddity.. You told me you could kill me and I offered you up which class you prefered to fight, archer, healer or summoner. You chose summoner and lost in <5secs and didnt break 1/2 of my cp or any HP as you are a dagger and should do something. I was even nice enough to buy you a buff pot so you could get your loss overwith. See:
http://imgur.com/a/SVxNv

Further, WingedFreak, Phantera and Balaham non stop plowed into me for 1m in crest room last siege and my cp never dropped and I even had time to type "are you serious with this damage?"

You also were bronze winged, in seraph and asked for 1 spot in gainak at every gainak not once per day. That is a joke you dont contribute to pvp or pve so you deserve nothing. You also play a useless class. And I am also the one who would kill you out of your 1 spot over and over because you did not deserve to be there.

YesIsTime, I was never in enigma nor was I kicked from Enigma, I did PK BornInHell who cried to KillTime who kicked our clan from alliance and for no other reason than that. This is supposed to be a hardcore korean pvp game so yes, everyone should know their place. Youincluded, should know.


Coffee/Thunder, interesting that we are now in control of EVERY lilith and anakim as well as every dragon, qa, 101, 103 and kelbim without enigma and meyani and we kill twice as fast. So yes we are the best ally so far and Graven and his PvE team are a great reason for that. They are also paid accordingly and we are constantly working to improve how that arrangement can further benefit both sides PvE(Ephemeral) and PvP(KG) without upsetting anyone. People will always be upset when you have a lot of mouths to feed. You are also one of the useless lowbies I am constantly referring to in enigma, we carried you on Bartz and on Chronos as well now back again you were being carried on Zaken.

KillTime himself is a good guy, great summoner, fairly good at game politics but makes bad deals or the deals he has always turn in his face server after server. So I think that says something.
Yet another excuse has born by a VIP Member of KG Clan.

They never refused. You should have said this instead. It was your leadership who told us one hour before the start of Lindvior that they wanted to go Dimensional Siege first before going to Lindvior. Do you think Players who login on agreed time, wait another 2-hours? The previous times we always went to Lindvior right after we killed Baium, you remember right? Since Baium spawns at midnight for most Europeans you demanded them to wait another 2-hours, because you wanted to go Dimensional Siege first.

Geez.

I'm not sure about that, what I do remember is born being online, and meyani saying he didn't want to do them, so we did it ourselves.
I mean honestly, I dont even know where to begin Coffeetime there are so many lies in your recent posts it would take a couple pages to correct the record. All I'll say is everything I said would happen, happened. Enigma fell apart like Mr. Potato Head just like I said. There is absolutely no need for us to sit here and entertain your whining and lies. You guys should've respected Oddity more and not taken us for granted. Killtime shouldn't have disrespected us by giving Meyani/Gauss as many drops as he did after his usefulness ran out. Tron let you guys take advantage of him and our clan and he figured it out albeit after the alliance imploded but believe me there are ZERO regrets about what we did.

In the end you are nothing and your clan is no more. No one is thinking "I wish Enigma was still here". Your clan is dead get over it.
Alectia, you talk too much to address each point but the main point you keep bringing up is killing 80% oddity.. You told me you could kill me and I offered you up which class you prefered to fight, archer, healer or summoner. You chose summoner and lost in <5secs and didnt break 1/2 of my cp or any HP as you are a dagger and should do something. I was even nice enough to buy you a buff pot so you could get your loss overwith. See:
http://imgur.com/a/SVxNv

Further, WingedFreak, Phantera and Balaham non stop plowed into me for 1m in crest room last siege and my cp never dropped and I even had time to type "are you serious with this damage?"

You also were bronze winged, in seraph and asked for 1 spot in gainak at every gainak not once per day. That is a joke you dont contribute to pvp or pve so you deserve nothing. You also play a useless class. And I am also the one who would kill you out of your 1 spot over and over because you did not deserve to be there.

YesIsTime, I was never in enigma nor was I kicked from Enigma, I did PK BornInHell who cried to KillTime who kicked our clan from alliance and for no other reason than that. This is supposed to be a hardcore korean pvp game so yes, everyone should know their place. Youincluded, should know.


Coffee/Thunder, interesting that we are now in control of EVERY lilith and anakim as well as every dragon, qa, 101, 103 and kelbim without enigma and meyani and we kill twice as fast. So yes we are the best ally so far and Graven and his PvE team are a great reason for that. They are also paid accordingly and we are constantly working to improve how that arrangement can further benefit both sides PvE(Ephemeral) and PvP(KG) without upsetting anyone. People will always be upset when you have a lot of mouths to feed. You are also one of the useless lowbies I am constantly referring to in enigma, we carried you on Bartz and on Chronos as well now back again you were being carried on Zaken.

KillTime himself is a good guy, great summoner, fairly good at game politics but makes bad deals or the deals he has always turn in his face server after server. So I think that says something.

How can you be such ridiculous lier!
Omg!
First of all, yea I can kill 80% oddity (every none credit card warrior there even 1 vs 2 if I go full skills) Every one know it lol...
I never asked for gainak while had seraph set lol (I only 1 month had seraph 8 month ago lol, than born crafted for me r99 with my packs and no fails :*)... I had eternal +5 120... and in overall like 60kkk + gear when start to go gainak... now I have bless tw +8...
I didnot appear in gainak before, bcs I had no gear for it, not bcs I was lazy... I tryed gainak as soon as got gear, not bcs nets left... I till now cant explain it to you... you simple not listen at all... I was helping clan and ally however I could... and was absolutely loyal, I am proud that was member of killtimes clan!
I think you can never forgive me that I was killing you in gainak by using twice less geared char...
You know who you are? Just a useless credit card warrior which is nothing w/o his masters!
You never was a guy who were nonestop killing me during gainak conflict...
You tryed pk me In open fields but failed!
I remember how you was trying attack us like salty dog and Rmn killed you like 50 times...
Another time me and 3 enigmas owned you...
Another time coffee was there and you dont dare to even attack...
You was attacking healena and candy and when I came there I killed you 5 times almost alone. You even was loosing vs me...
Than you stop appearing, and in 10 days came back with overgeared yul, rmt 4ever...
Than yea you was way stronger than me! But I still somehow killed your yul during parnasus clan vs clan...
But in 1 month you rmt even more and made your wynn 3 times stronger than it was...
Maybe it was mistake when I agree this 1 vs 1, but I dont want to scare in game, and wanted check you... So I agree this 1 vs 1... and after 1 min I lost... too much donate lol...
those who are wynns can check your skills reseting on your bar and tell how much long was duel... So dont try to lie about 5 sec... lol... You are even more ridiculous than truffle lol...
rmt like 5k$ +to be able beat poor othell 1 vs 1 lol gzz...

p.s I still wait Tron answer simple questions lol...
All of this useless banter and arguing simply because Shinyiu posted yet another social justice warrior piece about the corrupt server that is Zaken.

He's been complaining about this **** since day one. Kicking him from Netflix was the most rewarding thing I ever had America do. :D

It must hit him right in the feels that no one wants him.
All of this useless banter and arguing simply because Shinyiu posted yet another social justice warrior piece about the corrupt server that is Zaken.

He's been complaining about this **** since day one. Kicking him from Netflix was the most rewarding thing I ever had America do. :D

It must hit him right in the feels that no one wants him.

Dismissed from Netflix? I was dismissed simultaneously along with 30+ other active members who were victim to favoritism and corruption. It was at that point there was no infrastructure within Netflix. You must have an issue for being called out for your ill-mannered demeanor in Teamspeak. The clan was dead at that time due to a failure in leadership because Fooz like other "clan leaders" was in it for what he could profit from even though he knew players like myself are here to play the game like we have been for thirteen years. If you and others don't see how the absence of absolute morality ruins opportunity and growth for all then you're in the circle of psychopaths preventing people from playing the game which sad to say can be actually compared to a corrupt government in the middle east. It is unfathomable how the intentional abuse does not phase 90% of the players on the Zaken server. "..the most rewarding thing." For how much relief you feel for dismissing a loyal clan mate only clarifies how poor your character is. Too many of these new generation players have no idea how great this game could be but I suppose there would be no excitement without the "bad guy."
Alectia, you talk too much to address each point but the main point you keep bringing up is killing 80% oddity.. You told me you could kill me and I offered you up which class you prefered to fight, archer, healer or summoner. You chose summoner and lost in <5secs and didnt break 1/2 of my cp or any HP as you are a dagger and should do something. I was even nice enough to buy you a buff pot so you could get your loss overwith. See:
http://imgur.com/a/SVxNv

Further, WingedFreak, Phantera and Balaham non stop plowed into me for 1m in crest room last siege and my cp never dropped and I even had time to type "are you serious with this damage?"

You also were bronze winged, in seraph and asked for 1 spot in gainak at every gainak not once per day. That is a joke you dont contribute to pvp or pve so you deserve nothing. You also play a useless class. And I am also the one who would kill you out of your 1 spot over and over because you did not deserve to be there.

YesIsTime, I was never in enigma nor was I kicked from Enigma, I did PK BornInHell who cried to KillTime who kicked our clan from alliance and for no other reason than that. This is supposed to be a hardcore korean pvp game so yes, everyone should know their place. Youincluded, should know.


Coffee/Thunder, interesting that we are now in control of EVERY lilith and anakim as well as every dragon, qa, 101, 103 and kelbim without enigma and meyani and we kill twice as fast. So yes we are the best ally so far and Graven and his PvE team are a great reason for that. They are also paid accordingly and we are constantly working to improve how that arrangement can further benefit both sides PvE(Ephemeral) and PvP(KG) without upsetting anyone. People will always be upset when you have a lot of mouths to feed. You are also one of the useless lowbies I am constantly referring to in enigma, we carried you on Bartz and on Chronos as well now back again you were being carried on Zaken.

KillTime himself is a good guy, great summoner, fairly good at game politics but makes bad deals or the deals he has always turn in his face server after server. So I think that says something.


"We got kicked" is what you previously stated. So either from clan or alliance supports the actuality of how they want complete control.

This is a hardcore Korean made MMORPG but this is nothing like how the game was previously. However, it is only this server which consists of mostly rejects from other servers whose place diminished because of greed. You clearly do not understand what the origin of this game's characteristics are based off of do you?

If you personally "know your place" then your narrow mind does not see how Enigma clan members have progressed 0.0001% in levels and gear during the life span of this server.
**** thats a lot of text.


aint nobody got time for that
As said these are just written examples. What I tried so say in my language was as counter-effects. Did you see us complain when we did Queen Ant with you? For every person you brought we had 5 Enigma Players standing at Queen Ant. We were outnumbering you even there. Healena provided all the Screenshots/Info from every single QA kill. Did you see us complain when we did Kelbim with you? Every time when TRUFFLEBUTTER was off you tried to reach me in TS Chat asking if KillTime, xTEVASx was online or even BornInHell in worst case timezone scenario's. Also you asked constantly to other 100+ Enigma Players to login Boxes for you to enter. Did you see us complain then? Hell No! I even went there 3 times to help you in EU Timezone FFS. Did I complain? Never.

We asked your Clan, if you were interested to join us and kill Lilith and Anakim with agreed upon Rules. The amount of average Players you brought equals the amount of % loot share at the end of the month. Yet you all complained like little babies the month after. You wanted more, more, more for less then 2 CP that logged in Boxes from KG Clan. Those two screenshots don't lie about your participation. You already forgot I had a Topic in our Forum asking who's Alt Character was Who? I knew exactly who was there and who was not. You even said so yourself on TS you were boxing alot of CP Members and vice versa.

About the Kelbim Atelia Fragments. I guess you already forgot it was you making Hero Shouts WTS. I told you before, and even asked you, is someone else playing your Account last week. It's because from the same Tron Account in Hero shouts came words such as KillTime and CoffeeTime farm Dark Stones and RMT the Adena. You are like Batmans Mr. 2-Face. You don't even remember half of the things you are saying anymore in Hero shouts.

I am proud that BloodWatch managed to take Aden Castle for just two weeks to proof another point. I was shocked to see the amount of Adena it produces per week on a dead Server such as Zaken. I remember a conversation of the first Castle Siege as Alliance you took Aden and we took Rune ourselves. We discussed about Taxes. You both said it was not worth to tell, because it was like peanuts 1b maybe 2b. Well, I was shocked to hear it was on average ~5b per 7-days. I asked around in KG Clan, and alot did not even know it was this much. Expected, as I said.

Well Good Luck! Christmas Holidays are comming to town!


Only reason you guys made that much is because of the events that have been going on. Its usually about 1.5-2b which we spend on runes for Anakim+Lilith rest people purchase with clan points. Don't really care what propaganda you want to spread, or what people tell you because its no valid proof just words.
Clueless, ignorant, poor puppet whichs mind is under bad coffee control...
I scare really! Tron stop it! Please spare my mind...omg!
As soon as I asked like pls let me some farm at gainak, you start mercilessly showing me full power of your pay!
Man you were nonestop killing me at gainak, you were killing me during siege nonestop(when we had ally), Truffel killed me 50 times unless I pressed to clan hall...
You were attacking me in open fields for pk... You were insulting me none stop in any channel include ts... starting that I am useless noob end with most ridiculous blames...
You were nonestop asking Coffee to kick me from clan... by yourselves and by using some enigmas as well... As soon as ally broke, first thing you done were go gainak and for about 40 min half oddity qq in every chat like: hey Alectia come gainak we have your spot free...
Well you did all of that... From all time I play l2, no one, never was so merciless to me...
And in 1 month when truffle said like: dw Alectia, nothing personal... when you say that it all was killtimes fault and I am just clueless puppet... Omg omg, facepalm...
Can you at least one time be fair and dont lie?! TRON?!

Tell what you think about me and why?! Omg!

You said Alectia and enigmas dont deserve 1 gainak spot once a day, bcs were weak and didnot helped in past gainaks vs nets scripts... So you ignore any ally decision and attacked your ally!
But now you farm gainak with nets with ephemerals vs bw... more than half server farm gainak now lol...
And you not dare touch fooz or any ephemeral from which 80% are weaker than me...
How it?! What kind of respect can I have toward you?!

Tell me why?! Why you did it?! Is it really to reach a goal and not let me farm gainak...?!
Goal which you fail to reach... bcs I sold more than 12 dark stones and have 1000+ elixirs...

You say that you not gonna scam your clan... But you betray ally to get more items... As result you get way less items and forced to share btw more clans... in additional your clan has 2,5 times more players than before...

You again will say that not gonna scam your clan?! Really?! Where is logic? Are you mother Teresa?!

And at the end tell me, why you did it all?! Does it worth to betray previous ally which was loyal and respected you, just bcs you had greed, arrogance, butthurt?! Are you happy now in one clan with Fooz and with Coffeetime as enemy?!

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/meme-tears-ecard.png
Omg! Facepalm... really!
I am not receiving instruction from any one... No one order me to create drama... Actually I also dont think that my mind is under coffetimes control... I am not puppet as you call me...
All I want to say is built by using simple logic + my own personal behaviour and ambitions...
I agree that I cant be 100% fair to you because I simple hate you!
If you want get my attention, you must do simple thing called STOP LIE... You lie and lie nonestop... so unless you stop no point to make any discussion...
Actually you can simple ignore me, because after all you are strong animals...
Сила есть ума не надо! Google translate it...

Well I just want you answer some questions... We had ally....
You were mercilessly killing me in gainak, you were killing me during siege... You were blame me in pm/ally/ts and even world/hero channels most ridiculous blames none stop...You were pk me in open fields... You were none stop (asking!) Coffee to kick me from my clan...
In 1 month after ally broke, I had pm with truffle and he said like: dw Alectia, nothing personal... It was all coffeetimes fault... (was it bcs truffle saw that I am way stronger than 80% oddity?)
Now you talk here like: poor stupid Alectia is in bad clan, which manipulate him and keep him in illusions... No no no and again no!
I can never accept it!

Well tell here what you think about me?! I am fair with you and you only lie...

Now next, You were mercilessly killing me for 1 gainak spot once a day... And now you farm gainak with 3 clans and half server... Tell me why? If I was so BAD and didnot deserve...
And now you farm each gainak, with 3 clan and half server, from which 90% are weaker than me!! Wtf?! Why you did all this things with me than?! I not only feel myself betrayed, I feel myself greatly disrespected! You also greatly affected my pride!
So now when I see how you not dare to touch any ephemeral! Its hurt you know!
By using your greed and your stupid, you just removed gainak from yourself... hilarious!

So tell me why this happen?!

I use my logic = stupid arrogant Tron overpriced itself, and controlled by its own greed broke ally... Than it saw that was weak and agree any ally to keep control server (half server ally)
Now it scare and dont dare do same like was in previous ally, just bcs has no choice!
It trying invite as much as he can to attempt break ally and remain dragons, but he failing... And dye to his total incompetence and greed even lost most powerfull cp which was absolutely loyal! So now being trapped you keep QQ, and forced to share with Graven, Fooz... and simple lick them, bcs no other choice remain... Well man you deserve way worse than it for sure... But your half server ally is so nosence and so funny! He he he...
(I start with Tron=it, and end with he... sorry for (mistake))

Now, why I say that Tron is scammer, while never was in this clan... Well I will not lie if say that I know 2 persons who were in oddity for over 8 month, and as they were like my box heal at start they remain same till the end, but I wont talk about it...
Again logic... Tron betrayed his ally when it controlled server... For what?!
Of course for items! Bcs he refuse to share with bad Meyani and bad enigma! Actually he agree it here!
So he scare and ally pve clan of graven and fooz crew instead of meyani and bad enigma!
And there all was more or less clean! Maybe he really prefer fooz and graven instead of meyani and enigma... Donno how can it be, after this guys for over 10 month every day blamed each others everywhere! (Fooz and tron...) Well honest and self respect not exist in their (hearts) he he he... How should Truffle say it: nothing personal? Omg omg! Facepalm...
So fooz took meyanis part of drop (its so so so Funny when those Foozs, rds, rufios and etc say like we pro, and qq whole day: lf pvp, while stay in half server zerg ally for items which they not even need! They already fully geared with power of mastercard lol, looks like their (honest) gone together with america (players name) Guys how you ever resist yourself! he he he!)
and graven took enigmas part!

But than start circus!

Ephemerals perfectly used this situation and greatly enlarged their clan... Gz to Graven!
But oddity also start to invite everything... include all enigmas who asked for it...
Now logic question... Why?! Tron now say that he share drop fair?! Is he mother Teresa lol?! How it?!
So he recreate ally bcs of internal conflict... ok... but make this ally twice larger?! And keep share?! Ofc no!
Ofc he now will scam meatshields he invited in clan... It just cant be otherwise... And he already start... bb phantera cp bcs they dare to ask for drop... Actually I was ok as well, unless asked for gainak...


I just see its all, I am fair in anything I say... I swear! Its just a simple logic... Consider all this ridiculous insults they do in world chat every day about any valuable person who not serve them! From which 90% is lie! They are even worse than I called them... Once traitor always traitor...
being in their clan is pointless time loosing... I not play 20 days, realize things better and only hate them even more...
I just want to avoid hypocrisy! Thats why refused join them from start and on purpose! I am not like Healena to join clan being sure that 80% of it will be scammed! Fuu I refuse even to imagine it... Better is to never see dragon! Be in one clan with all those incompetent, stupid, arrogant, noob, jerk, coward, scammer, liers, lickers, and traitors... better to delete character! I respect myself... If I ever decide to come back here, I will keep play a real game and try to help create good ally w/o all those Trons! Real game where win is win and loose is loose! W/o selling yourself like ********** and licking!...

Well I was fair... now I wanna see how (fair) will be any of those (Trons)

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Does not matter that its a game, Tron you are just a most awful jerk ever! You are something that by mistake has human appearance! I not care about any in game thing, nothing worth to stay in your clan... Those who are in your clan simple not respect themselves on purpose! Thanks god I didnot chosed your clan from start and will never be in your clan!
Any attempts to talk with you like you are a human will end starting from this moment...
Dismissed from Netflix? I was dismissed simultaneously along with 30+ other active members who were victim to favoritism and corruption.

Actually you were dismissed at my request. It may have been during The Great Purge, but you were a special case.


It was at that point there was no infrastructure within Netflix. You must have an issue for being called out for your ill-mannered demeanor in Teamspeak.

If my ill-manered demeanor was screaming at anyone who would QQ in my pms or to me on Teamspeak, then I don't regret behaving that way. I would spend countless hours farming for Netflix, being online to protect Gainak, etc.

The clan was dead at that time due to a failure in leadership because Fooz like other "clan leaders" was in it for what he could profit from even though he knew players like myself are here to play the game like we have been for thirteen years.

Yeah the clan was dead because we had recruited too many people like you, who "are here to play the game". You don't think the people who actually mattered in Netflix were there to play the game? The difference between US and YOU is that WE took what we wanted because we earned it. You didn't. Bringing 12 BRs to Ant Queen helps, sure. But bringing a level 100 ISS in **** gear to Gainak for 5 minutes doesn't really count as contribution.


If you and others don't see how the absence of absolute morality ruins opportunity and growth for all then you're in the circle of psychopaths preventing people from playing the game which sad to say can be actually compared to a corrupt government in the middle east. It is unfathomable how the intentional abuse does not phase 90% of the players on the Zaken server. "..the most rewarding thing." For how much relief you feel for dismissing a loyal clan mate only clarifies how poor your character is. Too many of these new generation players have no idea how great this game could be but I suppose there would be no excitement without the "bad guy."

1. You were not loyal. You clan jumped more times than WingedFreak got One-shot (and that's a lot!)

2. This is a video game. The fact that you are making parallels between Lineage 2 and Totalitarian governments in the middle east says a lot more about YOUR character than what I've wrote says about mine. It's quite clear you are a unfortunate self-victimizing social justice warrior, which really means you are just carrying water to sea.
The world isn't out to get you. This is a video game. Relax. Breathe. The world will continue, Shinyiu. Being a whiny priveleged child won't change the state of the game. Every server is corrupt, you won't start a revolution...It's a game. Not real life. Open your blinds kid. Quit the game, and buy new shoes.

In the great words of BingBing...."Show me on the doll where Bingbing touched you..."

Good day.
Did you see us complain when we did Queen Ant with you? For every person you brought we had 5 Enigma Players standing at Queen Ant. We were outnumbering you even there. Healena provided all the Screenshots/Info from every single QA kill.

An important point. Yes enigma probably brought more toons, however they were mostly useless. They would bring lvl 40 toons, with awakening quest weapons, not use soulshots, and just auto attacking the boss. It was oddity that was bringing sos, br, and buying expertise runes to use OE r99 weapons on the raid. So yes, oddity deserved more shares of the drops. Enigma was providing basically nothing, compared to oddity, so why should they be compensated the same? I didn't go to many anakim/lilith when we were in ally, but I assume it was the same situation there as well.
Since poor Trons mind cant realize large posts, than...
1 After all you did to me... now you call me clueless puppet...
Can you tell me, what you think about me and why?

2 You said that Alectia and enigmas didnot helped you fight vs nets scripts at gainak...
You said that we were weak and didnot deserve, so you ignore ally rulles and were killing your ally there... Now you farm gainak with nets, with half server from which 80% are weaker than me, and vs us (previously it was only your except 1 gainak spot once a day which I asked for enigma)
And you not dare to touch anyone from your half server ally!...
So tell me why?! Tell me what respect can I have to you after that?!

3 You wanted more drops for your small clan which couldnot log even half lilith/anakim slots... You betray ally and built new one... But your new ally is way bigger and get way less than before... In additional oddity has 2,5 - 3 times more members than before...

You again will say that you not gonna scam your clan?! Where is logic?! Are you mother Teresa!

Really I tried to wright it as short as I was able... Tron?! Can you at least one time not lie and answer 3 questions?!
I want to know it?! Maybe I really am clueless puppet under bad coffes control...
Does not matter that its a game, Tron you are just a most awful jerk ever! You are something that by mistake has human appearance! I not care about any in game thing, nothing worth to stay in your clan... Those who are in your clan simple not respect themselves on purpose! Thanks god I didnot chosed your clan from start and will never be in your clan!
Any attempts to talk with you like you are a human will end starting from this moment...

I told you before and I'll tell you again I would never invite you to my clan. Go see the doctor because its pretty clear something isn't right in your mind. You've been repeating the same thing over and over for months. I don't care, now go cry some more, your tears are delicious as I stated above.
Since poor Trons mind cant realize large posts, than...
1 After all you did to me... now you call me clueless puppet...
Can you tell me, what you think about me and why?

2 You said that Alectia and enigmas didnot helped you fight vs nets scripts at gainak...
You said that we were weak and didnot deserve, so you ignore ally rulles and were killing your ally there... Now you farm gainak with nets, with half server from which 80% are weaker than me, and vs us (previously it was only your except 1 gainak spot once a day which I asked for enigma)
And you not dare to touch anyone from your half server ally!...
So tell me why?! Tell me what respect can I have to you after that?!

3 You wanted more drops for your small clan which couldnot log even half lilith/anakim slots... You betray ally and built new one... But your new ally is way bigger and get way less than before... In additional oddity has 2,5 - 3 times more members than before...

You again will say that you not gonna scam your clan?! Where is logic?! Are you mother Teresa!

Really I tried to wright it as short as I was able... Tron?! Can you at least one time not lie and answer 3 questions?!
I want to know it?! Maybe I really am clueless puppet under bad coffes control...

I fully understand everything that you've posted, most people here didn't even read what you said, and they told me this personally. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and I read your post, as I've said many times before you're clueless to what is really going on and most the things you've posted are just a bunch of nonsense. If this is how you feel then by all means continue to cry, and we'll just continue to laugh. You are irrelevant to me now as you always have been and always will be. Go cry to someone who cares, because I don't.
i hear fooz is a pretty good doctor crystall
Fully understand?! Really?! You cant even answer 3 question!
You are dirty bastard surrounded by another dirty bastard, their lickers and large amount of totally incompetent (players)
Whole 100% your power is credit card which allow you have all best gear from start, in some times you will dissapear like you never was (ofc is server will stay alive)... It will happen as soon as ppls grow normal gear, and no one will deal with bastard like you... because you are bastard! The only thing you can gladly do now is continue scam your poor clan... so go on, they deserved to be scammed when entered such dirty clan...
P.S its me decided to never enter your clan... I am terrible QQ er, but I am fair, I not lie, not betray, not scam... BB Tron, for me you are not even human from now...
Fully understand?! Really?! You cant even answer 3 question!
You are dirty bastard surrounded by another dirty bastard, their lickers and large amount of totally incompetent (players)
Whole 100% your power is credit card which allow you have all best gear from start, in some times you will dissapear like you never was (ofc is server will stay alive)... It will happen as soon as ppls grow normal gear, and no one will deal with bastard like you... because you are bastard! The only thing you can gladly do now is continue scam your poor clan... so go on, they deserved to be scammed when entered such dirty clan...
P.S its me decided to never enter your clan... I am terrible QQ er, but I am fair, I not lie, not betray, not scam... BB Tron, for me you are not even human from now...

hahahahaha! Scamming my clan? I would love for you to provide proof of me "scamming" my clan. I put the drops in the CWH as I have for months. I don't need to scam anyone, nor would I, whats the point in that? The people who're in this clan and know me know how we do things and know that I would never scam them. You're so delusional its not even funny, please get some help child, isn't it past your bed time? I don't need to reply to every essay you post on the forums. You're not worth my time, as a matter of fact your not worth anyone's time because all you do is cry. I will now await your next essay that you will post as the tears continue to roll in.

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an important point. Yes enigma probably brought more toons, however they were mostly useless. They would bring lvl 40 toons, with awakening quest weapons, not use soulshots, and just auto attacking the boss. It was oddity that was bringing sos, br, and buying expertise runes to use oe r99 weapons on the raid. So yes, oddity deserved more shares of the drops. Enigma was providing basically nothing, compared to oddity, so why should they be compensated the same? I didn't go to many anakim/lilith when we were in ally, but i assume it was the same situation there as well.
Excuse after excuse after excuse comes out of your pencil Jon.

You got no clue what you are speaking about at all. You just admitted yourself in more then half of the Clan Events you don't show up yourself. Still you know exactly what is going on with every Party around you. 1 Oddity Party and 5 Enigma Parties. Yet you tell this one Party from Oddity is so Pro in killing Queen Ant. Same reason why you have killed Queen Ant within 10 minutes with Healena's Help. It took you over 30+ minutes to kill it without Enigma's help. It is good to know that all this time: Healena, Domenica, SweetCandy, UnbrokeN, MGDM, lBigBang, Virtuosa, Cacots, Lard and more are all useless to Oddity. They were providing according to you basically nothing to Queen Ant ever. I guess for that same reason you recruited all of them into Oddity now right?

Geez you are so full of bullocks Jon and you know it GL.
hahahahaha! Scamming my clan? I would love for you to provide proof of me "scamming" my clan. I put the drops in the CWH as I have for months. I don't need to scam anyone, nor would I, whats the point in that? The people who're in this clan and know me know how we do things and know that I would never scam them. You're so delusional its not even funny, please get some help child, isn't it past your bed time? I don't need to reply to every essay you post on the forums. You're not worth my time, as a matter of fact your not worth anyone's time because all you do is cry. I will now await your next essay that you will post as the tears continue to roll in.

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3 question s to answer... go on trash, answer them w/o lie... Act like human at least one time in video game lol...
You have no idea what you are talking about. We did not enter lindy 4 times and were unable to kill without meyani lol. There was however a time when oddity clan by itself (boundless came), killed lindy without meyani or enigma clan, and yet we still gave enigma some of the drops. We asked born, tevas, meyani to come kill but they refused, so we did it without them, EZ. At least point it was clear, we were the ones carrying the ally, not meyani or born.

Yes we were kicked from ally for pking born. I was in the group at the 103s when we did it, and 2 minutes later killtime ported out to cromais and then we were kicked from ally.

You didn't deserve one ganiak spot. Enigma doesn't pvp, and they never helped when we needed help against netflix's scripts.

You really have no clue what you are talking about.

the greed is more than obvious when you have in your clan the ex-leader from netflix, inheritor of America.
the greed is more than obvious when you have in your clan the ex-leader from netflix, inheritor of America.
Fooz and rufio and even america are teddy bears compare with Tron, Truffle and their pets such as pets like forthewynn or rmn...
Lol I am about to start ask Fooz to save me from Tron and Truffle... there is exactly such difference in this persons mentally... Fooz at least is human (bad one ofc, but human) and those from oddity are just a strong animals, mr gorillas!
Actually you were dismissed at my request. It may have been during The Great Purge, but you were a special case.




If my ill-manered demeanor was screaming at anyone who would QQ in my pms or to me on Teamspeak, then I don't regret behaving that way. I would spend countless hours farming for Netflix, being online to protect Gainak, etc.



Yeah the clan was dead because we had recruited too many people like you, who "are here to play the game". You don't think the people who actually mattered in Netflix were there to play the game? The difference between US and YOU is that WE took what we wanted because we earned it. You didn't. Bringing 12 BRs to Ant Queen helps, sure. But bringing a level 100 ISS in **** gear to Gainak for 5 minutes doesn't really count as contribution.




1. You were not loyal. You clan jumped more times than WingedFreak got One-shot (and that's a lot!)

2. This is a video game. The fact that you are making parallels between Lineage 2 and Totalitarian governments in the middle east says a lot more about YOUR character than what I've wrote says about mine. It's quite clear you are a unfortunate self-victimizing social justice warrior, which really means you are just carrying water to sea.
The world isn't out to get you. This is a video game. Relax. Breathe. The world will continue, Shinyiu. Being a whiny priveleged child won't change the state of the game. Every server is corrupt, you won't start a revolution...It's a game. Not real life. Open your blinds kid. Quit the game, and buy new shoes.

In the great words of BingBing...."Show me on the doll where Bingbing touched you..."

Good day.


As I said I was dismissed along with the 30 or 40 other active members. If you were in Teamspeak going down the list of whom to victimize, brought up my name and now you are bragging about it? Again, you are a bully. You let your ego get punctured by someone like myself calling you out for being unjust. "The great purge", you type the same way you talk in Teamspeak. It is as if you are role playing or trying to talk like Xerxes from 300. That is weird.

I don't recall pms but I do recall confronting you in Teamspeak followed by silence. There is no reason to pm someone when you can confront them of their barbarism in Teamspeak. It was a bit much for you. Fortunately, you were surrounded by corrupt individuals like yourself so you had a haven.

The majority of the clan members in the clan were decent people. Why you are trying to give the idea "are here to play the game" a negative connotation blows my mind. Everyone that was a loyal active member mattered in Netflix. Your words are evident enough to support what I have been saying this entire time. You "took what you wanted because you earned it" That makes no sense at all. I out performed you in PvP easily. You have to remember that since this is only Pay to Win now there are no bragging rights for winning a fight due to better gear based off of a higher percentage spent through the L2store. That is not how that works. There was only a select few who received help from the clan and that was because they were the ones who spent the most (RL currency) on their characters. 90% of the loot was kept in the background. Even when we had the spread sheet system while PureMagic was stressing himself out failing to put in work there was no transparency. My first three months I attended all events with the entirety of the Netflix clan until I became busy with work which I was blamed for. It was unacceptable to have a real life job while being in Netflix. Clearly you do not understand how MMORPG's work. You acquire in game content by playing the game like raids or PvPing at Gainak. So when you deprive that from other people (fellow humans who can feel and are conscious of what is going on) you deny them dignity. The equipment I had was adequate back then. I did then and still perform well with what I had provided for myself. An Iss is there to support whether it is PvP and Exp but when you neglect that from an individual based off of favoritism? That person is not able to progress. That is one of many factors as to why the Zaken server is in it's current state. My assistance at Queen Ant was not there to be measured over other members. It was there to be measured as being an active loyal member. I'm not sure why so many mentally unstable persons play the Zaken server. Maybe it is just greed or the "power" thing. I think sometimes several individuals forget this is an MMORPG and how far off course it is from years prior because of how human behavior has deteriorated here.

Loyal? I never left Netflix once I joined. Now you are creating fake scenarios for me to support your argument? After CowboysFromHell failed then I joined Netflix. I was there until the clan crumbled.

This is a computer game, yes. The parallels are there because the community consists of real people. Why you among others decide not to see them must be driven by hunger for power in the game or greed? Zaken is the Allepo of Lineage 2. You have clearly shown myself among others what your character consist of through your words of arrogance and ignorance. Actual people play this game. Some people like myself who have played longer than most of you here. I have and will continue to stand up against people like you who deprive others the ability to play this game based of some sick fantasy or opportunity to make real life money from the game. You aren't the only one trying to wrap my words with your own so that I look incompetent. If you treated people like this in real life it would not go so well for you.

Standing against oppression is not self-victimizing. A privileged child? You do not know much about me. And no, not every server is corrupt. Again this word "revolution" is used. I would like to point out that I never used the term "revolution" as there is not dramatization needed here.

I don't see what new shoes has to do with your inability to play an MMORPG.

Not to mention the script PvP I had to witness in Netflix by people who didn't have the gall to PvP without cheating. That takes away most of your credibility anyways.

Stop being corrupt.
Not to mention the script PvP I had to witness in Netflix by people who didn't have the gall to PvP without cheating. That takes away most of your credibility anyways.

Stop being corrupt.
Isn't the era of scripting over? Its a dead horse that you are still beating that you still seem to be coping with.
This hypocrisy still kills me to this day, you still believe you have the right to talk about scripts when your bot groups got banned weekly, and how you ended up begging gms for toons back and sharing the convos you'd have with them?


If you used the program for any sort of advantage what right do you have to accuse any other person? Because you claim to only use the programs for everything else but pvp? You are still reaping a profit and using its advantages.
In doing so it directly allowed you to advance your character in ways others couldn't, but keep believing your exempt from the corruption you claim. If that's what lets you sleep at night so be it.
Isn't the era of scripting over? Its a dead horse that you are still beating that you still seem to be coping with.
This hypocrisy still kills me to this day, you still believe you have the right to talk about scripts when your bot groups got banned weekly, and how you ended up begging gms for toons back and sharing the convos you'd have with them?


If you used the program for any sort of advantage what right do you have to accuse any other person? Because you claim to only use the programs for everything else but pvp? You are still reaping a profit and using its advantages.
In doing so it directly allowed you to advance your character in ways others couldn't, but keep believing your exempt from the corruption you claim. If that's what lets you sleep at night so be it.


Scripting in PvP and running bot groups are two entirely different things. Yes, I botted to support my toon since I could not enjoy raids/exp from actual players due to corrupt leadership and a rotten community. I had to make an Evisc/Healer/Iss to level my main character and it's dual class. I had no option. It was a means of survival to progress my character. I helped plenty of other people on the server gain exp whenever they wanted. They could just chill with me and exp. Ncsoft did repeatedly ban player's groups. I think on average 3 times on each set of my characters because that was the transition for ncsoft to encourage people to stop using third party. "begging" ? Do not try and shroud me with negative imagery. Submitting a support ticket is not begging. "Hey, I can't log onto my account. Can you fix this?"(More or less) That was it. I shared the conversations because it was entertaining. I was sharing that with the clan I was trying to be a part of. I was dealing with NCsoft. I am not sure what you would expect. Reaping a profit in game, sure but as I said I share my wealth and exp. I always have and always will. Unfortunately, not so much anymore because no one groups on Zaken and the server is severely underpopulated.

And of course I did not cheat in PvP because since open beta 13 years ago that is what the game is about. It is unknown to me why there are so many mentally ill individuals who have chosen to propagate cheating in PvP directly ruining any sort of opportunity for honest players to earn a legitimate place in the game they have enjoyed for so many years. I guess I can compare cheating in PvP like being a Nascar driver whose car is driven by a computer. You sit in the car and a computer drives your car in a circle. What would be the point? The majority of rejects on Zaken utilized and supported third party PvP with no hesitation. Therein lies the elephant in the room. The players who chewed up and spit out the current lineage 2 community are in debt to the former/current and future community members in establishing a healthier environment so that Lineage 2 is an actual MMORPG.

I find it interesting that I have not done anything intentionally harmful to any particular person on Zaken (WingedFreak does not count.) yet new names come out of the wood work trying to put me down for being the opposite of detrimental to Lineage 2 in comparison to the actual corrupt players. Until people start logging in with sight of the big picture most of you will not find fulfillment in this could be epic MMORPG.

I would hope the era of scripting is over. It is hard to tell sometimes.
Scripting in PvP and running bot groups are two entirely different things. Yes, I botted to support my toon since I could not enjoy raids/exp from actual players due to corrupt leadership and a rotten community. I had to make an Evisc/Healer/Iss to level my main character and it's dual class. I had no option. It was a means of survival to progress my character. I helped plenty of other people on the server gain exp whenever they wanted. They could just chill with me and exp. Ncsoft did repeatedly ban player's groups. I think on average 3 times on each set of my characters because that was the transition for ncsoft to encourage people to stop using third party. "begging" ? Do not try and shroud me with negative imagery. Submitting a support ticket is not begging. "Hey, I can't log onto my account. Can you fix this?"(More or less) That was it. I shared the conversations because it was entertaining. I was sharing that with the clan I was trying to be a part of. I was dealing with NCsoft. I am not sure what you would expect. Reaping a profit in game, sure but as I said I share my wealth and exp. I always have and always will. Unfortunately, not so much anymore because no one groups on Zaken and the server is severely underpopulated.

And of course I did not cheat in PvP because since open beta 13 years ago that is what the game is about. It is unknown to me why there are so many mentally ill individuals who have chosen to propagate cheating in PvP directly ruining any sort of opportunity for honest players to earn a legitimate place in the game they have enjoyed for so many years. I guess I can compare cheating in PvP like being a Nascar driver whose car is driven by a computer. You sit in the car and a computer drives your car in a circle. What would be the point? The majority of rejects on Zaken utilized and supported third party PvP with no hesitation. Therein lies the elephant in the room. The players who chewed up and spit out the current lineage 2 community are in debt to the former/current and future community members in establishing a healthier environment so that Lineage 2 is an actual MMORPG.

I find it interesting that I have not done anything intentionally harmful to any particular person on Zaken (WingedFreak does not count.) yet new names come out of the wood work trying to put me down for being the opposite of detrimental to Lineage 2 in comparison to the actual corrupt players. Until people start logging in with sight of the big picture most of you will not find fulfillment in this could be epic MMORPG.

I would hope the era of scripting is over. It is hard to tell sometimes.

You're wrong

For pvp you need 4 things:
Level
Gear
Knowledge
Experience


Cheat on any of this points, its the same, no matter in what you use the bot, you cheat.


PS. Everything is hackable
You're wrong

For pvp you need 4 things:
Level
Gear
Knowledge
Experience


Cheat on any of this points, its the same, no matter in what you use the bot, you cheat.


PS. Everything is hackable
Let me correct you...
For pvp you need
1 geared pvp related class
2 geared active pvp reletad clan (At least 5 cps + maybe 30 randoms)
3 geared, active, right constant party for pvp( suitable classes: tank, iss, 2 heal, 3 dd...)
4 gear (I mean runes, pots, scrolls)
And unfortunately first 4 is almost 90% of things needed for pvp...
Than:
5 skills of per player (knowledge of your class, game mechanics, combos, tactics, reaction...)
6 experience of per player (knowledge of another classes/players, farm areas specific, mobs)
Unfortunately this is mostly pointless and is actual only if opponent teams have almost equal gear, numbers)
Well bad game lol... Consider the fact that various persons got dark weaps in 2 month after zaken start, well you can imagine what happening there...
And again consider the fact that most of them are most dirty jerks ever, and keep donate $$ each event, and control most things... its sad, he he he I will go cry again about how savage and unfair is world!
Well i know that Tron Truffle... are jerks! And i still cry like my tears can change them, or they pets like rmn, forthewynn... or rest who sold themselves... And why I cant stop cry lol... ridiculous!
You're wrong

For pvp you need 4 things:
Level
Gear
Knowledge
Experience


Cheat on any of this points, its the same, no matter in what you use the bot, you cheat.


PS. Everything is hackable

Not really. If anyone has a solid argument on the reality of the matter it would be me. Programs in PvE and PvP are two entirely different things in L2.