Hello all,
I don't do olympiads anymore so I wasn't able to experience this bug earlier.
One year ago for sure I was able to remove sommoner's marks when use revelation skill Disparition "Cancels all your debuffs. For 5 seconds, you cannot be targeted".
Yesterday friendly pvp with a guy from my cp - for 5-7 seconds he drain my whole cp and hp despite I used dispartion when I saw the marks on me.
In summoner's skill window marks are in debuff section.
What the hell?! :confused:
Can anyone GM confirm this and give it to dev team asap?
It changed a while ago, it stopped removing some kind of debuffs idk why. But the worst part is that sometimes u use it it does not remove the debuff and doesn't activate and u lose ur disparition.
They should change the description from "Remove all debuffs" to "Remove some debuffs".
Well, I've investigated it..
Mark of Trick have Additional effect - interrupt target's skill casting.
Today I've tested with summoner 85 with no epics on it and immortal set and shadow retri +4 and eviscerator 88 with epics and tw set. Mark
of Trick always land and no matter what skill eviscerator do - it is interrupt during the mark of trick and EVEN when I use Disparition.
Revelation skills are supposed to land 100% (at least from my experience with earth tremor - 85 ertheia mag against 99+ char in olympiad (1 year ago).
And because skill like Disparition exist in the game intended to cancel all debuffs and cannot be target for 5 seconds - this should work no matter what!
This is the reason why reseting revelation skills cost 100kk adena and this type of skills are not class specific! :mad:
Earth tremor isnt 100%, I have it on an ertheia Sayha and it does fail maybe at 30% of time usage.
To be sure about disparition, you have to test against another opponent, because you already spotted what it's making you fail it: the f**cking Mark of Trick.
You wanna a bug or whatever to wonder about: 100 iss (me) vs 101+ Wynn SM in oly, I used Angel's Touch before fight begins under Battle Speed buff (from coc talisman), made cancel on wynn and then polymorph. Straight after the second Angels Touch, I noticed reuse on it went from merely 23s to 1min+ for no reason. I didnt lose any buff, I didnt made Ultimate Suspension to get it reflected smh, I wasnt been debuffed while out of it (aka polymorph'ed) but I didnt pay attention to what skill wynn was doing or did. Yet I did run the entire match evading btw pillars with hp at 1 because somehow all my skill got ***ed with reuse of a nonbuffed toon and note that I was Hiero Iss. Go on and xplain this scenario to me.
Earth tremor isnt 100%, I have it on an ertheia Sayha and it does fail maybe at 30% of time usage.
To be sure about disparition, you have to test against another opponent, because you already spotted what it's making you fail it: the f**cking Mark of Trick.
You wanna a bug or whatever to wonder about: 100 iss (me) vs 101+ Wynn SM in oly, I used Angel's Touch before fight begins under Battle Speed buff (from coc talisman), made cancel on wynn and then polymorph. Straight after the second Angels Touch, I noticed reuse on it went from merely 23s to 1min+ for no reason. I didnt lose any buff, I didnt made Ultimate Suspension to get it reflected smh, I wasnt been debuffed while out of it (aka polymorph'ed) but I didnt pay attention to what skill wynn was doing or did. Yet I did run the entire match evading btw pillars with hp at 1 because somehow all my skill got ***ed with reuse of a nonbuffed toon and note that I was Hiero Iss. Go on and xplain this scenario to me.
Well, that sux..
But anyway.. I've posted this, because is not reasonable for me to have debuff and not to be able to cancel it if you have several skills that
can do cancel. If someone interrupt your cast by doing some skill or whatever - that's ok - but if you have debuff that for 10 seconds
continuously interrupt 90% of what you're doing and you can't remove it - this is not fair at all from my perspective because for less than 10
seconds with mark of trick and all others,which I won't be able to remove - I'll be at 1 hp dead despite I'm with basic 38k hp and 26k cp -
Still waiting for GM to answer and give this to DEV.:mad:
This skill works as intended, imo.You just being unlucky to get the pink mark to proc on your disparation skill and as any other skill that can be interrupted.
This skill works as intended, imo.You just being unlucky to get the pink mark to proc on your disparation skill and as any other skill that can be interrupted.
It's not about lucky or unlucky - it's just a huge nuisance to create debuff that cancel all skills even those who are supposed to remove all debuffs.
Disparition is survivability skill which is very important in pvp if you choose to learn it for the "description" it is written on it, cost 100kk to unlearn it and what? Not possible to trigger
because of this nonsense debuff which interrupt everything?
And yes - the time I wrote this post fought it was a bug but then I saw why is happening - I wasn't able to edit the thread title.
It's not about lucky or unlucky - it's just a huge nuisance to create debuff that cancel all skills even those who are supposed to remove all debuffs.
Disparition is survivability skill which is very important in pvp if you choose to learn it for the "description" it is written on it, cost 100kk to unlearn it and what? Not possible to trigger
because of this nonsense debuff which interrupt everything?
And yes - the time I wrote this post fought it was a bug but then I saw why is happening - I wasn't able to edit the thread title.
So as I said - waiting for GM answer.
You seems to not understand that any aoe skill that doesn't need target can interrupt you, like erruption.The pink mark has 30% chance to trigger, so its not like it's gonna interrupt Dispa every time.
You seems to not understand that any aoe skill that doesn't need target can interrupt you, like erruption.The pink mark has 30% chance to trigger, so its not like it's gonna interrupt Dispa every time.
LOL. Like we're not talking about korean random with this percents.
"Pink"mark is..? Mark of trick or?
What is this 30%? Where is written?
My test documented with videos - 7-8 times against summoners - NOT even once Disparition was success!
Tried the same with another skill from evi(88) against summoner(85) from 6 times pushing skill Left Side step - only once triggered during the mark of trick. So this is not 30% at all.
As I said - DISPA did not triggered at all - I was still open for targeting.
I think you don't understand where the problem is.....
I said few posts above - if you interrupt with aoe skill or poison niddle or whatever - this is correct behavior and I'm totally fine with it! You know why? -
because is single skill - you do it and if in that time I use dispa - my problem, or if someone use "Silence" on me - it's fine for me too but remember who
can use this skill - I cannot die from it or from other skill this char use during silence!
BUT MARKS are totally different thing - this is Debuff for 10 seconds! And during this debuff he puts on you another 3 marks who can drain you just like that for less than 10 seconds!
And if you can't use Dispa or whatever skill exists for removing debuff - what the hell?
....
LOL. Like we're not talking about korean random with this percents.
"Pink"mark is..? Mark of trick or?
What is this 30%? Where is written?
My test documented with videos - 7-8 times against summoners - NOT even once Disparition was success!
Tried the same with another skill from evi(88) against summoner(85) from 6 times pushing skill Left Side step - only once triggered during the mark of trick. So this is not 30% at all.
As I said - DISPA did not triggered at all - I was still open for targeting.
I think you don't understand where the problem is.....
I said few posts above - if you interrupt with aoe skill or poison niddle or whatever - this is correct behavior and I'm totally fine with it! You know why? -
because is single skill - you do it and if in that time I use dispa - my problem, or if someone use "Silence" on me - it's fine for me too but remember who
can use this skill - I cannot die from it or from other skill this char use during silence!
BUT MARKS are totally different thing - this is Debuff for 10 seconds! And during this debuff he puts on you another 3 marks who can drain you just like that for less than 10 seconds!
And if you can't use Dispa or whatever skill exists for removing debuff - what the hell?
....
I must stop relying to you, really.....
Are you new to L2 or what?Marks worked this way for a long time, same goes for disoa.If dispa was non interruptable skill, it would have been explained in its description, but it's not.The mark of trick has a quite big chance to interrupt whatever you may cast, while its on you, which can be either dispa or unbind, which means you won't get the effect of the interrupted skill.
Also do another test and see us it interrupts the second skill you cast, could be that first skill after mark lends has higher chance to be interrupted.
By the way the 30% was in the mark description, don't know if it's gone from there now, but yea...
I must stop relying to you, really.....
Are you new to L2 or what?Marks worked this way for a long time, same goes for disoa.If dispa was non interruptable skill, it would have been explained in its description, but it's not.The mark of trick has a quite big chance to interrupt whatever you may cast, while its on you, which can be either dispa or unbind, which means you won't get the effect of the interrupted skill.
Also do another test and see us it interrupts the second skill you cast, could be that first skill after mark lends has higher chance to be interrupted.
By the way the 30% was in the mark description, don't know if it's gone from there now, but yea...
LOL LOL LOL
YOU HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING AS I SEE ON EVERY COMMENT YOU DO ON THIS FORUM!
STOP REPLYING ON MY COMMENTS,OK? IT'S REALLY ANNOYING!
I don't care if the skills are working properly or not. I just see a big problem with THE WAY THEY WORK and I want a SIMPLE discussion how this could be changed and work out!
I've already opened a ticket to NCSOFT when I've created this post (that time I fought it's a bug and before they answer me I saw what exactly is the problem) so they SUGGESTED me to open discussion here so that players can give ideas and if they are good enough can be give to DEV team.
I guess I have to open NEW discussion because OBVIOUSLY the title of this one, created together with the ticket, is wrong and unfortunately I can't rename it.
And of course I don't want pointless answers like yours mixa!