Hello Lineage 2 community and Freya exclusive players!
Lineage 2 is a game that keeps players always returning back!
Lineage 2 is running for 16 years if im not mistaken [including first beta test]
This situation of a dimonant clan is the same over the years the only thing that changes is the name of the clan some of the people that play in such clans and the leaders from time to time and also the things that such clans hunt.
In the Past for example it was catacombs and dragons, then sieges implemented and outfieled raid bosses got boosted droplist-wise so these clans had to take control of them also.
After a couple of years the free to play came! Everything was smooth at the very begining there was competition because everyone was "almost" at the same point gearwise and lvlwise it was like starting from "0" after awakening. There was nice competition nice pvp and overall fun gameplay for everyone Events for the players were all over the place! Also the L2Store promos were based on appearences toys and xp/sp/drop boosts, in between we had the chance to see some promos like shirts and boxes with nice rewards also!
Time passed and we are now on years 2014-2015 where NCwest activly fights bots and RMTs with varius ways one of them is decreasing every single drop one other way is by ban-waves with great success but....but.....but.... it was the same time that game started to look more pay2win than ever!
Time kept passing by and we came down to years 2016-2017 merges happens! timezone changes! Many emoquits and Banana vacations comes!
Game still looking as the great p2w platform all you see everyday "QQ""QQ""Why this""Why that""QQ"QQ" And OH! wait! MAX! Max is here.....
After the merge MAX started gathering forces pvp players and top spenders. And suddenly we are on day 13 of March 2017 where you see 60% of servers population in Navigatos "alliance" and 75% of Top-geared pvp players also in there Controling '8'/9 castles in normal server and if im not mistaken Oren Giran Aden Dion or Gludio in Dimensional server with just one CP Defending each castle most of the time! Also controling Dragons and 90% of the outfield raids.
Now its time to talk about the rest of 40% population +25% of geared people who are still out of MAX spread out in diferent small or big clans there are nice and decent geared people not in MAX out there Like DivekioTM Angelofaeth LaPuMa Bullstix Kaerive Lorenor Monsherie and many many more most of them are spread in different clans such as "Steel Dragon" "Deception" "Syrina" "ArenaDigital" "Pokedex" "FLT" "ChibaGuard" "Hazards" and some other clans.
In conclusion, Everyone QQs but also Everyone KNOWS which is the ways to defeat them or at least start overtaking things from them such castles-dragons-rbs.
1: Ingore them close wars and go farm they will get bored...maybe... w/e
2: Grow some balls and merge in one clan get organized and start taking castles and rbs from them start fighting for heroes.
The last couple of months the only clans showing some good examples of competition against them are SteelDragon and Deception in some cases Pokedex too im talking about sieges some raids and some olys.
Isnt it boring to log in and see VNDragonx bossing you and ur fellows all over the hero chat?
Isnt it boring to log in do ur daillies and then log out because you cant do raids?
Isnt it boring to log in on Sundays and for two hours continuesly get recked and then QQ for 1hour on "&" chat and then log out?
INSNT IT TIME TO CALM DOWN RE-THINK AND GROW SOME BALLS GET IN 1 CLAN AND FIGHT?
Are you afraid of losing 00.01% after each pvp death w/o getting rez?
Are you afraid that you will need 2-3 Celestials in order to reach ur desired instance npc?
Are you afraid that you will randomly get killed somewhere because of MAX?
Then stay there do ur kamaloka and log out let them farm everything own everything and thats it! :)
P.S. Go flame this topic go do w/e you want its np but before you do that please read carefully and think to your self "WTF is this guy talking about can this actually happen?" Find the answer inside ur brain and then gogo forum wars!
p.s.2. It is never going to happen unless you the last men standing out there non-MAX will think twice and try for something.
Thank you for reading
Yours Sincerally Wildhorn - Steel Dragon
Excuse me for my bad english
Also please take 2 minutes of your percious lifetime and check my signature "that..." video and think twice before you flame/insult someone via-web.
i think, all that ppl, whom you noticed in post, are grown-up. So if they didnt already merge in one clan - there are some other big problems among them. and just one post on forum doesnt help. imho, nothing will help in this case.
i think, all that ppl, whom you noticed in post, are grown-up. So if they didnt already merge in one clan - there are some other big problems among them. and just one post on forum doesnt help. imho, nothing will help in this case.
I Know that all mentioned above is just a daydream of a casual player :)
I Dont expect something to happen cause of this post but with the small privilage-power if have to post here im trying to make people re-think or start thinking of some things! :)
How many times we told you ?
A lot of Max members told you, not especially you Wildhorn, but all players in server who are actually crying about Max domination, stop crying what will give you nothing, but regroup all in one big clan, and fight for everything.
How many times this last year ? 50 times ? 100 times ? I didn't even count it.
SD + AD + Pokedex started a good ally months ago, all together you had a non-negligent power. But after 1 or 2 siege, your ally implode because of your own internal ally managment.
So yes, just regroup on one big clan, maybe 2 if the first is full. Then fight, fight for raids, fight for gainak, fight for sieges, fight for dragons, fight to do not let us going to instance easily, fight to go doing your dailies, ... Stop crying and fight.
How many times we told you ?
A lot of Max members told you, not especially you Wildhorn, but all players in server who are actually crying about Max domination, stop crying what will give you nothing, but regroup all in one big clan, and fight for everything.
How many times this last year ? 50 times ? 100 times ? I didn't even count it.
SD + AD + Pokedex started a good ally months ago, all together you had a non-negligent power. But after 1 or 2 siege, your ally implode because of your own internal ally managment.
So yes, just regroup on one big clan, maybe 2 if the first is full. Then fight, fight for raids, fight for gainak, fight for sieges, fight for dragons, fight to do not let us going to instance easily, fight to go doing your dailies, ... Stop crying and fight.
Thats exactly what im here to say . and thats what exactly this post was made for. I Never QQed about max or w/e maybe i did on ragemode or w/e but as a person i get emotional sometimes as everyone else :D
I Know personally few people from within MAX that they also dont like this situation its too boring for them doing everything like its a Single player game.
The problem is bigger for those players that spend a lot time and money in this game and having no competition in the end they get bored or even saying "Why did i spend so much and now all i do is running around having no competition".
Going Antharas or Valakas or w/e the same way i go for Kamaloka meaning w/o competition or any kind of pvp e.g. is worse than me not going Valakas at all :P
I Know some of you guys would like to see for example SD Growing back to 100 ppl and fighting against you then you will have some dailly basis pvp and some siege/raid competition.... in conclusion thats how the game is supposed to be played after all Chrysty sisnt it?
Well you are not first who try regroup server clans to be in one side vs other bigger side in that moment, you maybe will "win" this time but you need to know the you have problem with big ego ppl who you need to made them to vote one of them to be leader of others. To one plan be menage to realize and one castle to be taken.
This is video what maybe not much will understand in his Serb-Croatian lagrange but point is, look all 3 min, "Branko" tell to kids the if everyone is alone he may crash easy, but if all them are together like woods in his hands they are strong...
[...]... in conclusion thats how the game is supposed to be played after all Chrysty sisnt it?
Obviously. Even just waiting in Parnasus and Blackbird for PvP against war clan who will trying to go to instance is better than just crying in town and doing nothing about this situation.
If 100 ppl come to fight on Valakas / Lindvior / Antharas entrance it's even better !
Well you are not first who try regroup server clans to be in one side vs other bigger side in that moment, you maybe will "win" this time but you need to know the you have problem with big ego ppl who you need to made them to vote one of them to be leader of others. To one plan be menage to realize and one castle to be taken.
This is video what maybe not much will understand in his Serb-Croatian lagrange but point is, look all 3 min, "Branko" tell to kids the if everyone is alone he may crash easy, but if all them are together like woods in his hands they are strong...
I Know Staroto that im not the first but as you can read above
Originally Posted by Taranka http://boards.lineage2.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3555402#post3555402)
i think, all that ppl, whom you noticed in post, are grown-up. So if they didnt already merge in one clan - there are some other big problems among them.
Maybe that problem is called Ego like you said Staroto but no matter what the actual problem is it needs to be solved and move on we cant play a 16 years old game and have the same problem over and over everyday its getting sooo boring when its supposed to be hobby-fun w/e
Maybe the problem is the actual player-base?
I Know Staroto that im not the first but as you can read above
Originally Posted by Taranka http://boards.lineage2.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3555402#post3555402)
i think, all that ppl, whom you noticed in post, are grown-up. So if they didnt already merge in one clan - there are some other big problems among them.
Maybe that problem is called Ego like you said Staroto but no matter what the actual problem is it needs to be solved and move on we cant play a 16 years old game and have the same problem over and over everyday its getting sooo boring when its supposed to be hobby-fun w/e
Maybe the problem is the actual player-base?
well idk what to say new, problem is the game play with ppl, not the ppl play this game. they live in pixels not to play with pixels. Most of them not have idea what to do next, for them success is to kill one of them now and rage with that for weeks, not to see big picture and in long term make "enemy" to lose what have now. You may see other thread here. They rage bla bla how they are pro the success one time to kill VND instead to consider fact the till that one time they kill him they die 1000 times and will die next 1000 but for them that is not problem, they ego is full because they kill him one time...
True but one other thing you may notice is that this EGO is also finger pointing/blaming others instead of siting down and talking with others to find the solution of any problem is easier to point at "staroto" for example and say "HAHA NOOB WHY?".
No no no my Fellows :D Someone gave you a mouth a brain and speech use it wisely and solve ur problems if "HAHA NOOB" solves ur problems or gives u satisfaction then we have a problem huston
Brain -> Mouth -> Speak : is the correct order
BIGMOUTH -> Nonsense Speech ->Everest alone fellas they always needed company to make it there.
Everest -> MAX
Fellas -> SD-Deception-Hazard-Pokedex-Arenadigital-All4one++++ many more
Lets grab hands and climb up? Does it matter after all who leads?
If Aden falls [daydream O_o] if 1-2 Dragons are taken [Daydream O_o] then you will see the diference no matter who leads .
Yes with good leadership you have better results but thats something we can talk about and find a solution.
Pointing at Divekio and saying he is noob and drunk or pointing at Exconvict saying he is nonfactor noob kakakak pointing at Kaerive saying he is a Italian lolita will not help :) Gather these lolitas and TALK. You all have brains small big doesnt matter USE IT
True but one other thing you may notice is that this EGO is also finger pointing/blaming others instead of siting down and talking with others to find the solution of any problem is easier to point at "staroto" for example and say "HAHA NOOB WHY?".
No no no my Fellows :D Someone gave you a mouth a brain and speech use it wisely and solve ur problems if "HAHA NOOB" solves ur problems or gives u satisfaction then we have a problem huston
Brain -> Mouth -> Speak : is the correct order
BIGMOUTH -> Nonsense Speech ->Everest alone fellas they always needed company to make it there.
Everest -> MAX
Fellas -> SD-Deception-Hazard-Pokedex-Arenadigital-All4one++++ many more
Lets grab hands and climb up? Does it matter after all who leads?
If Aden falls [daydream O_o] if 1-2 Dragons are taken [Daydream O_o] then you will see the diference no matter who leads .
Yes with good leadership you have better results but thats something we can talk about and find a solution.
Pointing at Divekio and saying he is noob and drunk or pointing at Exconvict saying he is nonfactor noob kakakak pointing at Kaerive saying he is a Italian lolita will not help :) Gather these lolitas and TALK. You all have brains small big doesnt matter USE IT
your talk is good but there is not good listeners in names what you "pointed" here, all care for personal fame not for group sauces and to be hones I not blame them. Many many time (ok, i talk for Magmeld era) there was try's to someone make "ally" of "nonfactor" clans vs "pro/big" clan and some times even if they not finish job they make problems to that big clan. Did cast and take aden even in 5 min, or enter in dragon and fail inside but still ppl know to make "ally", problem is how much that "ally" will survive till one or more of them think the that "moment of glory" is because them not because of group.
I will stop talk for this now, L2 is famous as old game and 90% of L2 players play this game more of 6 years (pre-GOD), so they are all in ~25 or more years old and know to decide what to they need to make to sauces in this game. If they want to still be ninjas in 21 century in end I will just say "RIP" to them...
Very well said Staroto.
Everyone wants to be the "Glory Guy" and the "King" but keep in mind all you king wannabes out there a Kingdom to be kingdom you also need people to rule dont you? you need followers to help you dont you?
you need organisation and leading abilities to make people happy dont you?
This topic is on for like 2 hours or maybe 3 hours i've been getting pms meanwhile from random people calling me noob or FORUM QQER and stuff like that.
So either the problem is that community is screwed up or everyone wants their attention?
Anyway GC update is by the corner 16 days left untill then and due to many changes on PVE like dragon entries or RB spawning detailed system there will be no excuse for QQ after that from all those who are qqing now that they cant kill rbs or cant kill dragons.
Lets lay back and wait for it.
Max(noobigatos) just a bunch of cowards or ret4rds with high % of members full gear or almost full fighting against 1 shot players... idk how a person can be so stupid to waste this bunch of real money for no real competiton... i cant understand. :confused:
Other part of max like vndragon/alissa/happymoron (IIIIIIIIIIII), muru etc selling adena x real money looong time ago, they love servers like freya :P no competition safe/easy adena for make real money but the other max members who dont get nothing idk what kind of morons they are xD.
Extreme pay to win game is the real problem... even if u are smart/good player u cant make tons of adena for make a "real good char"... is the reality i know players playing in magmeld/freya with shiet gears after 4-5 years... this is really crazy... and this guys or almost all just stay in server bcs they make good friends (i m in this group) and no want lose this friends even if server is full of garbage.
Hello Lineage 2 community and Freya exclusive players!
Lineage 2 is a game that keeps players always returning back!
Lineage 2 is running for 16 years if im not mistaken [including first beta test]
This situation of a dimonant clan is the same over the years the only thing that changes is the name of the clan some of the people that play in such clans and the leaders from time to time and also the things that such clans hunt.
In the Past for example it was catacombs and dragons, then sieges implemented and outfieled raid bosses got boosted droplist-wise so these clans had to take control of them also.
After a couple of years the free to play came! Everything was smooth at the very begining there was competition because everyone was "almost" at the same point gearwise and lvlwise it was like starting from "0" after awakening. There was nice competition nice pvp and overall fun gameplay for everyone Events for the players were all over the place! Also the L2Store promos were based on appearences toys and xp/sp/drop boosts, in between we had the chance to see some promos like shirts and boxes with nice rewards also!
Time passed and we are now on years 2014-2015 where NCwest activly fights bots and RMTs with varius ways one of them is decreasing every single drop one other way is by ban-waves with great success but....but.....but.... it was the same time that game started to look more pay2win than ever!
Time kept passing by and we came down to years 2016-2017 merges happens! timezone changes! Many emoquits and Banana vacations comes!
Game still looking as the great p2w platform all you see everyday "QQ""QQ""Why this""Why that""QQ"QQ" And OH! wait! MAX! Max is here.....
After the merge MAX started gathering forces pvp players and top spenders. And suddenly we are on day 13 of March 2017 where you see 60% of servers population in Navigatos "alliance" and 75% of Top-geared pvp players also in there Controling '8'/9 castles in normal server and if im not mistaken Oren Giran Aden Dion or Gludio in Dimensional server with just one CP Defending each castle most of the time! Also controling Dragons and 90% of the outfield raids.
Now its time to talk about the rest of 40% population +25% of geared people who are still out of MAX spread out in diferent small or big clans there are nice and decent geared people not in MAX out there Like DivekioTM Angelofaeth LaPuMa Bullstix Kaerive Lorenor Monsherie and many many more most of them are spread in different clans such as "Steel Dragon" "Deception" "Syrina" "ArenaDigital" "Pokedex" "FLT" "ChibaGuard" "Hazards" and some other clans.
In conclusion, Everyone QQs but also Everyone KNOWS which is the ways to defeat them or at least start overtaking things from them such castles-dragons-rbs.
1: Ingore them close wars and go farm they will get bored...maybe... w/e
2: Grow some balls and merge in one clan get organized and start taking castles and rbs from them start fighting for heroes.
The last couple of months the only clans showing some good examples of competition against them are SteelDragon and Deception in some cases Pokedex too im talking about sieges some raids and some olys.
Isnt it boring to log in and see VNDragonx bossing you and ur fellows all over the hero chat?
Isnt it boring to log in do ur daillies and then log out because you cant do raids?
Isnt it boring to log in on Sundays and for two hours continuesly get recked and then QQ for 1hour on "&" chat and then log out?
INSNT IT TIME TO CALM DOWN RE-THINK AND GROW SOME BALLS GET IN 1 CLAN AND FIGHT?
Are you afraid of losing 00.01% after each pvp death w/o getting rez?
Are you afraid that you will need 2-3 Celestials in order to reach ur desired instance npc?
Are you afraid that you will randomly get killed somewhere because of MAX?
Then stay there do ur kamaloka and log out let them farm everything own everything and thats it! :)
P.S. Go flame this topic go do w/e you want its np but before you do that please read carefully and think to your self "WTF is this guy talking about can this actually happen?" Find the answer inside ur brain and then gogo forum wars!
p.s.2. It is never going to happen unless you the last men standing out there non-MAX will think twice and try for something.
Thank you for reading
Yours Sincerally Wildhorn - Steel Dragon
Excuse me for my bad english
Also please take 2 minutes of your percious lifetime and check my signature "that..." video and think twice before you flame/insult someone via-web.
Sorri but even if u recrute all players out of max side still fail... 85% (even more :( ) players out of max are 1 shot in siege even full buff...keep dreaming my friend, u cant fight against a full clan of cowards full items like noobigatos, sad but true even if u are Einstein u cant find the solution..
@Yuen
I Don't know who are you or where you come from but players like you acting like that using "names" to call others is the real problem mate :)
Sorry sad but true.
And if you take your time and actually READ the post i made im not talking about defeating them im not talking about recruiting all max members who you say are one shot.
All i say is the sad reality behind the name Freya and what should be changed.
The sad reallity and boredom also includes many MAX members as mentioned above. now go back to my post and re-READ Carefully before you keep spamming my post with random things.
Thank you very much.
I do agree with you Wildhorn, but unfortunately this is still a dream, for example the alliance between any clans would end once they will start fighting eachother about whatever clan gets the castle. You know what I mean? I wish that what you said could happen but unfortunately i don`t see it happening. I hate being literaly murdered by max wherever they see me just because they "like it". That`s what they told me when i pm`ed them asking for explination on why i got pk-ed. They LIKE IT. I really hope this would come true for the love i have for Lineage 2. A game i`ve been playing since 2004.
freya situation is wildhorn u are in a noob clan with a weak leader, a clan where everyone does what they want with 0 relation to the goals or suposed goalsof ur clan IG.
I like deception, i dont like pokedex, BUT both of these clans are doing pretty well, and i hope is just starting for their fight against Max, SD is OUT of that fight already , cant compete.
Im agree, buts difficult gather people who hate themselves long time before.
Its time to join all in one great clan, leave the differences aside and take this cheaters, RMT, Ncsoft parasites where they belong, banana island.
freya situation is wildhorn u are in a noob clan with a weak leader, a clan where everyone does what they want with 0 relation to the goals or suposed goalsof ur clan IG.
I like deception, i dont like pokedex, BUT both of these clans are doing pretty well, and i hope is just starting for their fight against Max, SD is OUT of that fight already , cant compete.
You must be delusional or something. If it's not SD, neither of these clans has any chance, none. Let alone that atm they just try to Zerg Aden and eventually ninja some castle in the last minutes of the sieges.
MAX will always win against such randoms.