Update: Server Transfers & Zaken Merge

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We know many of you have been anxiously awaiting the Zaken-to-Chronos Server merge, or have questions about the existing transfer limitations. To hopefully alleviate some of the confusion and any burdens caused by this process, here's an update on how transfers will be handled in the lead-up to the Server merge.


Following standard maintenance next week, Wednesday, July 5, all Server transfers will be discounted by 90% to 400 NCoin, at which time:

Transfers incoming to Chronos will be disabled*
Transfers outgoing from Freya will be disabled
Transfers outgoing from Zaken will be available

*Transfers incoming to Chronos will again be available once the merge with Zaken is complete.

Here's a full breakdown of transfer options by Server beginning July 5:

Chronos [IN] Not Available
Chronos [OUT] Available
Naia [IN] Available
Naia [OUT] Available
Zaken [IN] Not Available
Zaken [OUT] Available
Freya [IN] Available
Freya [OUT] Not Available

This discounted offer on Server transfers will remain available until Septeber 28, in order to give Zaken players enough time to choose their preferred Server. Players on Zaken wishing to transfer to Chronos simply need to wait for the merge to take place and they will be moved to the Server for free.
So when will we be able to relocate from Zaken to Chronos, when does the merge takes place? a month from now? two month from now?
Server transfers will be discounted by 90% to 800 NCoin

I tought 90% of 4000Ncoin was 3600Ncoin discount... So, its a 80% discount! :D
I tought 90% of 4000Ncoin was 3600Ncoin discount... So, its a 80% discount! :D

go away smart-***, or we won't see transfer from zaken for another 2 years
go away smart-***, or we won't see transfer from zaken for another 2 years

Oh yes, my post will make NCWEST cancel the transfers and the merge of Zaken... Grow up!
Oh yes, my post will make NCWEST cancel the transfers and the merge of Zaken... Grow up!

It's NCWest we are talking about, they been "permanently banning" 3rd party users since 2005. In actuality, we still have yet to see them permanently ban major abusers.
Transfers incoming to Chronos will be disabled*
Transfers outgoing from Freya will be disabled
Transfers outgoing from Zaken will be available

*Transfers incoming to Chronos will again be available once the merge with Zaken is complete.

I am partially confused, so we are missing some details or this is it?

Zaken Players can only Transfer to Freya and Naia (not to Chronos);
Freya Players can not Transfer to any Server, only receive Players from Zaken, Chronos and Naia;
Naia Players can Transfer to Freya and Zaken (not to Chronos);
Chronos Players can Transfer to Freya, Naia and Zaken?

Unless Transfers incoming to Zaken will be disabled and Transfers outgoing from Naia will be disabled?

Clarify please.

Cheers,
Bennie
I am partially confused, so we are missing some details or this is it?

Zaken Players can only Transfer to Freya and Naia (not to Chronos);
Freya Players can not Transfer to any Server, only receive Players from Zaken, Chronos and Naia;
Naia Players can Transfer to Freya and Zaken (not to Chronos);
Chronos Players can Transfer to Freya, Naia and Zaken?

Unless Transfers incoming to Zaken will be disabled and Transfers outgoing from Naia will be disabled?

Clarify please.

Cheers,
Bennie

You'll confuse a devil in hell
You'll confuse a devil in hell
Tell me about it. As far I read his post you possibly could transfer into Zaken from any other Server aswell, except Freya.

Confusing ...
Tell me about it. As far I read his post you possibly could transfer into Zaken from any other Server aswell, except Freya.

Confusing ...

Transfers incoming to Chronos will be disabled* (can not be transferred to Chronos)
Transfers outgoing from Freya will be disabled (can not be transferred from Freya)
Transfers outgoing from Zaken will be available (can be transferred from Zaken)
Transfers incoming to Chronos will be disabled* (can not be transferred to Chronos)
Transfers outgoing from Freya will be disabled (can not be transferred from Freya)
Transfers outgoing from Zaken will be available (can be transferred from Zaken)
So ... from Chronos you can transfer into Zaken after the 5th of July, right Born? After the merger you will be back in the same place. This is how I see it.
So ... from Chronos you can transfer into Zaken after the 5th of July, right Born? After the merger you will be back in the same place. This is how I see it.

they didn't say anything about enabling transfers to Zaken, just from it. For i'd assume we can transfer from Zaken to Freya and Naia only.
so that mean the last normal transfer is on July 5?
I am partially confused, so we are missing some details or this is it?

Zaken Players can only Transfer to Freya and Naia (not to Chronos);
Freya Players can not Transfer to any Server, only receive Players from Zaken, Chronos and Naia;
Naia Players can Transfer to Freya and Zaken (not to Chronos);
Chronos Players can Transfer to Freya, Naia and Zaken?

Unless Transfers incoming to Zaken will be disabled and Transfers outgoing from Naia will be disabled?

Clarify please.

Cheers,
Bennie
I think as this is an "Update" ... you need to recall what transfers were available previously.
[Chronos: In or Out available, Freya: In or Out available, Naia: In or Out available, Zaken: In or Out unavailable]

so the "Update" Disables In for Chronos, Disables Out for Freya and Enables Out for Zaken.
Can we have a clarification if the normal transfer will be on july 5 or not cause if not we suggest if you can move it another week there are people who has heroes who will lose it so that they can transfer tnx
Finaly, ty for litening players :d
So ... from Chronos you can transfer into Zaken after the 5th of July, right Born? After the merger you will be back in the same place. This is how I see it.

Dont be stupid. Why would they enable transfer TO Zaken, if they are planning to merge it Chronos.
Iam not a native english speaker but as i understand from 5july to 28september players from zaken will be able to use a discounted transfer service to transfer to naia or freya only. If they want to move to chronos they have to wait the free definitive merge. During this period only naia players could transfer to freya only.
Am i right?
What is the time zone of the server that will be created from the Zaken+Chronos merge?
What is the time zone of the server that will be created from the Zaken+Chronos merge?
It is not a server creation, it is a forced merge , so i guess chronos will stay at same time zone and zaken players will have to deal with this for free or pay 800nc to choose another server and move faster.
90% of 4000 is 3600, hence this transfer should cost only 400 ncoin.
And what if .... make Zaken GMT - 2 and to open a transfer to Zaken?

Imagine how the server will revive ! The ambitious clans and players from the one-sides marshes of Freya, Naia and Cronos will go to Zaken for Epic bosses and castles.
Very good, time to pool my adena together.



Transfers outgoing from Freya will be disabled


Would have done two transfers, now I guess I'll just do one. Too bad.
If merge will be,why we need do transfer?
If merge will be,why we need do transfer?


This discounted offer on Server transfers will remain available until Septeber 28, in order to give Zaken players enough time to choose their preferred Server. Players on Zaken wishing to transfer to Chronos simply need to wait for the merge to take place and they will be moved to the Server for free.

To give players from zaken the opportunity to choose another server than chronos for a little amont of ncoins. If they want to go to chronos they just have to wait the official merge.
This summer on zaken will be boring as hell for the players who will wait the merge to chronos..
So, let me see if I get this right.You give the players of Zaken to transfer to Naia or Freya for a very low price, but the players of Shilen, Magmeld and Bartz didn't have this opportunity at the time.

YOU ARE APPLYING A DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE?This is quite a spit in the face of half the NCW population lol.Who's flying the plane?
So, let me see if I get this right.You give the players of Zaken to transfer to Naia or Freya for a very low price, but the players of Shilen, Magmeld and Bartz didn't have this opportunity at the time.

YOU ARE APPLYING A DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE?This is quite a spit in the face of half the NCW population lol.Who's flying the plane?

They made a mistake in the past not offering this service - The fact that they are fixing the prior error shows progress on their part and should be approved/appreciated not spat upon. Some people simply have nothing better to do than complain.
It was supposed to be something "exclusively" Zaken transfer feature?

Because it implies that someone can be transferred from Chronos to Naia for only 800 Ncoins.

So, how would NCWest be profiting from it?

For the players of Chronos would be an escape from the oppression of Nova, lmao.
I cant wait for this
Asked Conguero to make the original post more clear but here's what in/out will be like after Jul 5.

Chronos [IN] Not Available
Chronos [OUT] Available

Naia [IN] Available
Naia [OUT] Available

Zaken [IN] Not Available
Zaken [OUT] Available

Freya [IN] Available
Freya [OUT] Not Available
90% of 4000 is 3600, hence this transfer should cost only 400 ncoin.
That's correct. My original post had the wrong price at 800 NCoin and has been updated to reflect that the 90% discount comes out to 400 NCoin.

So, let me see if I get this right.You give the players of Zaken to transfer to Naia or Freya for a very low price, but the players of Shilen, Magmeld and Bartz didn't have this opportunity at the time.

YOU ARE APPLYING A DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE?This is quite a spit in the face of half the NCW population lol.Who's flying the plane?
It's not a double standard. This is an option we probably should've provided during merge preparation in the past. Neutron and I can't change the past, but we can learn from it and try to make the most reasonable decisions going forward. That's kind of how life works, mixa.
"Server transfers will remain available until Septeber 28, in order to give Zaken players enough time to choose their preferred Server."

It appears the ticket to Chronos from Zakin won't take place until October.

Ouch! :(
"Server transfers will remain available until Septeber 28, in order to give Zaken players enough time to choose their preferred Server."

It appears the ticket to Chronos from Zakin won't take place until October.

Ouch! :(

For he love of god, do you even know that Zaken is getting merged with Chronos?? No point of transffering to it
Would you explain why transfers from freya arent included in the package deal.. Every server can transfer out, but not freya.... why?! this is totally unfair..
Asked Conguero to make the original post more clear but here's what in/out will be like after Jul 5.

Chronos [IN] Not Available
Chronos [OUT] Available

Naia [IN] Available
Naia [OUT] Available

Zaken [IN] Not Available
Zaken [OUT] Available

Freya [IN] Available
Freya [OUT] Not Available

That's correct. My original post had the wrong price at 800 NCoin and has been updated to reflect that the 90% discount comes out to 400 NCoin.


It's not a double standard. This is an option we probably should've provided during merge preparation in the past. Neutron and I can't change the past, but we can learn from it and try to make the most reasonable decisions going forward. That's kind of how life works, mixa.

Yo quick question to either of you about transferring is transferring 2 toons in 1 account at the same time (paying ofc 8k ncoin) is possible or not. Or do we need to wait a month to make another transfer from that account. Need answer ASAP tnx

Would you explain why transfers from freya arent included in the package deal.. Every server can transfer out, but not freya.... why?! this is totally unfair..
The answer is simple they know Freya is dead and the only reason a lot of people can't transfer from there is because they can't afford the transfer fee but if they will include Freya with the discount a ton of players will move from Freya thus making Freya another Zaken :D
Include freya in the transfer discount, if freya ends up empty, merge it to another and close it, saving maintenance fees. problem solved.
Probably they don't want to cause a server merge to be a direct cause of another server merge. But still, that merge is inevitable.
For he love of god, do you even know that Zaken is getting merged with Chronos?? No point of transffering to it

It would appear, I am aware of the merge. Logically, my post was the merge date.

I don't care if it is free. I would pay $399 USD if I could transfer tomorrow.

Just for fun, I will reply to your comment. Here are my top 3 "points" for wanting to transfer my 102 archer:

1.) I have great gear on Chronos, because of a healthier server economy.

I can't wait to put on that +8 dark set and apply a mystic soul cry to my insane Kelbim bow. Wouldn't you?

2.) I have more friends on Chronos, because of a more favorable time zone.

After all, it is a multiplayer online role playing game...

3.) Zakin is Dead. Probably should have been listed as number one reason.

When people start transferring to Freya, it will become even more decomposed to near loss of existence!

So, feel free to review 1-3. Let those sentences sink in a little. Moreover, there are countless other 'points' for transfer.

Think about the big picture. Hmmm, L2 anniversary event is/was suppose to happen... still could happen... maybe will happen...

Would you rather be on a server with 1,000+ players or would you rather be on Zakin with 150+ players?

Think about all the adena and sale potential a larger server like Chronos has. Never mind, your comment shows you probably don't think at all. "There is no point of thinking, right?"
Under this "update" people who want to transfer from Zaken to Chronos will have to wait for the merge in, it appears, late September. Why not allow a one-week window for those who don't want to wait the three months to pay their 400 coins and move immediately?
What is the reason not to let ppls from Freya move on to other server?
Does this imply that Ncwest know that there will be a lot of players going to move out d/t the current server manipulating?
I would have to love to hear the reason especially from Couguero or Neutron as it's seem to be unfair for ppls that would like to move away.
What is the reason not to let ppls from Freya move on to other server?
Does this imply that Ncwest know that there will be a lot of players going to move out d/t the current server manipulating?
I would have to love to hear the reason especially from Couguero or Neutron as it's seem to be unfair for ppls that would like to move away.

Dont you know why ? Do you think NCSoft doesnt know that Navigatos RMT everything they farm ? Still no action is taken against them. People on freya quitting every day because of this situation. Freya soon will be a dead server (aka 2nd zaken) if it isnt already. There is no motivation to play any more with those kind of players (Navigatos) abusing the game so much.
( Inside Info: After MuruMuru left, everyone on Navigatos, exept leaders ofc, working like slaves to farm all items needed to make stage 2 dragon weapons for their leaders. Keep up the good work slaves xD )
Wow that's new to me.
Maybe it's best to let us move this way Max can make their own game?? MxM
That's correct. My original post had the wrong price at 800 NCoin and has been updated to reflect that the 90% discount comes out to 400 NCoin.


It's not a double standard. This is an option we probably should've provided during merge preparation in the past. Neutron and I can't change the past, but we can learn from it and try to make the most reasonable decisions going forward. That's kind of how life works, mixa.
You should sit with the team and consider including transfer OUT of Freya to be included in this "promo". If you're actually learning from the past mistakes, you can make up for that and undo some of the damage done.

Also as this all thing came into light, you guys better get a very fat compensation package for the players if Zaken and Freya. Seriously, there is no excuse for such things happening.
You should sit with the team and consider including transfer OUT of Freya to be included in this "promo". If you're actually learning from the past mistakes, you can make up for that and undo some of the damage done.

Also as this all thing came into light, you guys better get a very fat compensation package for the players if Zaken and Freya. Seriously, there is no excuse for such things happening.

I agree. If you guys learn from the mistakes of the past then give freya players the opportunity to transfer out of this server. The Navigatos problem is out of control. Or take an action againt them or let the transfers open and let them alone in freya doing their RMT things
You should sit with the team and consider including transfer OUT of Freya to be included in this "promo". If you're actually learning from the past mistakes, you can make up for that and undo some of the damage done.

Also as this all thing came into light, you guys better get a very fat compensation package for the players if Zaken and Freya. Seriously, there is no excuse for such things happening.

Second this!

Why not Freya? Are those Zaken or Naia ppls pay more ncoins than ppls on Freya? So they can transfer but not us? This is absolutely double standard and unfairly treated no doubt. Please reconsider this and let ppl have a choice before they completely quit.
Chronos [IN] Not Available
Chronos [OUT] Available

Naia [IN] Available
Naia [OUT] Available

Zaken [IN] Not Available
Zaken [OUT] Available

Freya [IN] Available
Freya [OUT] Not Available

Players in freya have lepra or what?,why cant migrate from this boring server?,really unfair, too much players need migrate from freya and now ncsoft give us a good and cheap chance to migrate but exclude freya, why god?

At less freya players need a answer for why cant use that promo.

Freya server need a merge with naia to give fun for all us not only for zerg from freya server or give us a chance to migrate with that promo, please reconsiderate.
The answer is simple they know Freya is dead and the only reason a lot of people can't transfer from there is because they can't afford the transfer fee but if they will include Freya with the discount a ton of players will move from Freya thus making Freya another Zaken :D


Freya wouldn't be so dead if they had left it on a reasonable time zone. They already had Naia at GMT+1. It made no sense whatsoever to give Freya the same time zone. Had they left it at the Bartz time zone of GMT-5 fewer people would have left.

Also, I asked NCSoft for a discounted or free transfer from Bartz (Freya) to Chronos because the GMT+1 time zone is not conducive to my personal schedule. I got "We are very sorry that we cannot accommodate your request. Thank you for your kind understanding."

I transferred 2 out of 8 toons....

but okay, so they have learned from it now. would be nice if they could find a way to compensate people who spent a LOT of money to transfer out of Freya. not everyone can afford scads of Ncoin. just sayin' ...
Where is info how can I buy this function?
Freya server is dead. navigatos clan recruit every single player on the server for free pve farm. they kill all raid bosses, take all castles with one dragon weapon aoe, and feed all heros with this broken oly system.
if you are planning to merge freya with naia, maybe the only reason to keep freya people in jail, you are going to make a big mistake. naia is two side server so one half of naia will join navigatos and the other half will desapear.
you need to keep freya server open so navigatos clan can pve farm all as they want and let the freya people free to leave. this restriction to leave server is totaly unfair like it was on the past. you close a dead server to create a new one.
How's the Zaken timeline? Are you guys ahead of schedule or behind? Can we get an update please.
Freya server is dead. navigatos clan recruit every single player on the server for free pve farm. they kill all raid bosses, take all castles with one dragon weapon aoe, and feed all heros with this broken oly system.
if you are planning to merge freya with naia, maybe the only reason to keep freya people in jail, you are going to make a big mistake. naia is two side server so one half of naia will join navigatos and the other half will desapear.
you need to keep freya server open so navigatos clan can pve farm all as they want and let the freya people free to leave. this restriction to leave server is totaly unfair like it was on the past. you close a dead server to create a new one.

Like always you crying about Max clan .. But you know what ? Look at Chronos server, Nova are controlling this server and farming everything for months/years .. And guess what's actually happening ? MS are taking more and more and more thing from them. Why ? Because at least they try something. They regroup some strong ppl that don't like Nova, and they try. Sometimes they fail, sometimes they success. They took a dragon from Nova few days ago, again.

And guess what you doing ? .... Nothing, only crying everywhere that you hate Max, that Max is a cancer, but you doing nothing for that change ...
I am not crying about max i dont care about max i just wat the chance to leave this server like other servers can.
Freya is dead and would've been zaken status had they not disabled transfers out(even NCsoft knows). The only people defending that dead server are to no surprise MAX players, merge it with Naia.