Agree with most of the aforementioned but 5 and 7. Marks in pve are not op but they do enough dps imho and exile dbf is pretty usefull (oly at least).
I would suggest:
1. Belt+Cloak+Aug Defensive and Offensive Effects (I'm skeptical for Ameth/Obsidian) should be transfered through Equip Share at least 30%
2. Ranged pets AoE skills are so weak. Wynns imho should be able to AoE more efficiently. As i have mentioned bfr ranged pets are very badly designed. They are listed as "Archers" but gain no extra dmg from Bullseye.
3.Pet interface is at least laughable and outdated. Laggy and with no real options
4. Personalized effects for Wynns should exist somewhere (hidden ap was fine i guess). There is nothing directly mentioning/boosting wynn (AP / Sub or Dual skills / SA's/ Epic). I miss that a lot from the game.
Players that are dedicated to Wynns need so much effort to put the toon on par with other classes, at least end game.
Summon Moving Portal - totally useless or I'm not smart enough to figure it out :) Tried using it in oly but seems to have quite a short range, I couldn't port back because I was too far away from it if I remember well.
If anyone knows any good use of it please let me know.
Summon moving portal :
Im try to use this but 1 sec casting time its to much maybe is instant maybe not bad. :S and really fun you stunned jump on portal and you stay in portal with stun :D
* oh i forget if someone you and betwheen protal cant teleport to portal :D
Summon Moving Portal - totally useless or I'm not smart enough to figure it out :) Tried using it in oly but seems to have quite a short range, I couldn't port back because I was too far away from it if I remember well.
If anyone knows any good use of it please let me know.
The only place I ever used it was on olys vs tankers on an open arena.
But... the tanker must be really noob to do not interrupt the casting of the skill. xD
The only place I ever used it was on olys vs tankers on an open arena.
But... the tanker must be really noob to do not interrupt the casting of the skill. xD
if change this skill :
casting instant no delay,
the range is bigger
It can be used from any spot ignoring any wals or obsticales.
Attacker lost target
maybe after its ok or no ?
classes shift in hierarchy .
usually class that is good for beginners (good with cheap gear) scales horribly later on. other wise all would play it.
and usually class that summons is more for playing smart rather then hitting hard.
exile synergy with marks was a bug, it was fixed to what it used to be earlier.
wynns shined to a cheap pve class, and they are still ok.
it's a matter of time before they shine like a gem again.
you can keep playing it and wait for your turn, or reroll.
classes shift in hierarchy .
usually class that is good for beginners (good with cheap gear) scales horribly later on. other wise all would play it.
and usually class that summons is more for playing smart rather then hitting hard.
exile synergy with marks was a bug, it was fixed to what it used to be earlier.
wynns shined to a cheap pve class, and they are still ok.
it's a matter of time before they shine like a gem again.
you can keep playing it and wait for your turn, or reroll.
cheap pve? LoL :) where ?
I think you play another class...
Mark with exile since GoD work together and now fix? you have a really god logic :)
Banishes target to another dimension. The exiled target becomes incapacitated and invincible to SOME attacks, skills, and debuffs. Decreases HP by 353 per second.
some attack its not all attack...
at the moment with this server setupp exile total useless skill...
But if u wanna do some real dmg at higher levels, then it becomes pretty expensive.
And I don't think they will shine like a gem again... they've been forgotten for a long time. (I guess NCSoft wants to slowly kill the summoner population).
But if u wanna do some real dmg at higher levels, then it becomes pretty expensive.
And I don't think they will shine like a gem again... they've been forgotten for a long time. (I guess NCSoft wants to slowly kill the summoner population).
Im agree with you.
And we dont talk about pvp... Summons damage its a joke :D 170-500 dmg each hit on pvp :D its lol 1-2 skill and dead you dont have chance to heal
cheap pve? LoL :) where ?
I think you play another class...
Mark with exile since GoD work together and now fix? you have a really god logic :)
Banishes target to another dimension. The exiled target becomes incapacitated and invincible to SOME attacks, skills, and debuffs. Decreases HP by 353 per second.
some attack its not all attack...
at the moment with this server setupp exile total useless skill...
read again what I wrote. good for beginners, but scales horribly with gear on 100+ onwards.
with +4 retri no SA 300 attri and +6 r95 light armour, sos box, iss box and heal box I did kama alone. dropped boxed sos when upgraded weapon. that sounds pretty alright for cheap and crap gears I had.
exile + marks didn't work pre and after ertheia update, I'm not sure exactly when they started working again, don't know where you are coming from, I've seen your nice red and blue gears, asking ridiculous questions on forums.
I'm not going to teach you how to play wynn here with out marks+exile combo, if you can't figure it out, go yul or othel.
read again what I wrote. good for beginners, but scales horribly with gear on 100+ onwards.
with +4 retri no SA 300 attri and +6 r95 light armour, sos box, iss box and heal box I did kama alone. dropped boxed sos when upgraded weapon. that sounds pretty alright for cheap and crap gears I had.
exile + marks didn't work pre and after ertheia update, I'm not sure exactly when they started working again, don't know where you are coming from, I've seen your nice red and blue gears, asking ridiculous questions on forums.
I'm not going to teach you how to play wynn here with out marks+exile combo, if you can't figure it out, go yul or othel.
Yes with this gear and level you cant teach me about summoner... and with this gear i think you dont play oly. And pvp. Im try to change little bit becuse this setup not fair. But for you ok its nice :D
Yes with this gear and level you cant teach me about summoner... and with this gear i think you dont play oly. And pvp. Im try to change little bit becuse this setup not fair. But for you ok its nice :D
it's like talking to a wall. I rest my case with this post...
with +4 retri no SA 300 attri and +6 r95 light armour, sos box, iss box and heal box I did kama alone. dropped boxed sos when upgraded weapon. that sounds pretty alright for cheap and crap gears I had.
Could you share your secret, please? A movie would be nice or at least a print screen with your equipment and stats. I have average gear, but better than you described and I would never get enough dps to complete kama alone on my wynn with the boxes you listed.
Could you share your secret, please? A movie would be nice or at least a print screen with your equipment and stats. I have average gear, but better than you described and I would never get enough dps to complete kama alone on my wynn with the boxes you listed.
no secret, it was prior to current patch which enhanced mobs elemental resist, clan buff lvl 4, abundance 1 (which was worth more then my whole gear at the time lol), freya rose, well polished macros (angel + debuffs from iss on minimal delay, debuff + balance of life on heal which was on other computer to do cleanse quickly).
I don't do movies or screenshots, it was long time ago, gear and char changed a lot since then.
berserker rage from dual class marks, savage and wind shackle.
This guy is crazy. We've been arguing for once. My opinion is not a good sharring eqipment. But he believes it is good and there is no need for change.
changes, standard
more equipment sharing, p.crit dmg transfer rate is ridiculous. no transfer of pve/pvp belts, other items, only bloody/dark and shadow being transferred is beyond ridiculous... also hard % dmg nerf in pvp for pets, since pve is strictly around fighter stats, pvp is about mage stats - I'd love if fighter build would be at least viable ...
so pretty standard wishes.
generally they are ok, could be better clearly. just like tyrrs in pvp :P
At first i would like to change summons attack stat calculation... first they have physic type attack, but generally Wynn is magic class. I so ****** of that i must make titan from mage... second equipment sharing... also total stupidity, for example mage with + 10 % p attack (lets say it will be 100 pts p attack) and 30% are transferring to pets... same go for crit rate, crit dmg etc.
Hello there!
What do you think of your character? What would you change? Which skill works badly? Its my turn:
1.Wynn does not have the skill that would cause a great deal of damage in a moment.
2. Servitors Pve/PvP resist its to low (only the armor/weapon teansfer to servitor, Obsidian Amethyst Cloack, augment etc not transfered.
3.Cubic effect is low. Or not visible. Debuff remove it's ok. But hold effect 1sec?
4. Death gate: create a danger zone :) where ? hold the target 0-2sec if succes . and deal damage around 500-1000 on target y it really Danger :)
5. Marks on Pve low dmg
6. Mark of retriver skill do less dmg than active mark(on target).
7. exile.... no comment idk now witch situation use this marks exile dont do dmg anymore :(
Your list ? What would you like to change?
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Really wynn class is very bad, in pvp is a disaster, the moving portal does not make sense is rune waste, if you do not remove the target is not good for anything, in addition to having a super slow and interrupted cast, is not easy the jump like the feoh, although they have improved with the new debuff to lvl 99 was not enough, the cubic is totally useless almost, the rate with which it draws the debuff and use effects is incredibly low, and is the only pvp skill that has in Actually, I am wynn EM 103 retri bloody +13 and it is not enough, marks if they do dmg in pve, but I have safiro lvl 3 but it is useless in pvp since markas damage by M.atac, so now you need Bssr (very expensive) and in pvp do not get anything because the wynn has little M.atac, but if you use armor light, if you use robe you do not support 1 hit, however you have more M.atac, and you lose P.atac that gives the light.
The death gate is almost a ridicules only serves to get the target of the mob but does not make sense. Unlike the other classes the wynn does not have any skill that attenuates critical damage, so othels and yull, and now the new feoh OP is a HIT and ground.
It is no longer a very good PVE class, and it was never a pvp class but it is worse than ever.
The skill betrayer that made the summon of the opponent to attack, they removed, but left the skill ereser, In conclusion the wynn dark elf and arcana lord at least have have the dark crucifix ( skill have to much power like a feoh skill, and a big pvp debuff) and the floating stone (which prevents debuff and subtracts 15% critical damage). I think that next updating should put at least 2 extra markas to each wynn (different for class) and return the active cubic as it was before, different for each wynn, and update the share servitor to more% P.atac.Pdef, and Critical dmg. Actually not to transfer all the improvements to the summon, this in too much disadvantage, even the other classes can enchant their skill but the wynn can not now enchant their summon like before, and the servitor barrier, that gives celestial for 10 seconds is easily cancelable, not like the rest of the UD that it is impossible to cancel them. Or back to old system 4 summons.
In favor of the Wynn Elemental Mast. Freezen invoking is the best debuff they have given, because it adds to the other and in partys with good damage it makes too much difference, 2 feoh and 1 wynn EM is really good at farm aoe.
(google traslate) ask if they do not understand something (:))
Really wynn class is very bad, in pvp is a disaster, the moving portal does not make sense is rune waste, if you do not remove the target is not good for anything, in addition to having a super slow and interrupted cast, is not easy the jump like the feoh, although they have improved with the new debuff to lvl 99 was not enough, the cubic is totally useless almost, the rate with which it draws the debuff and use effects is incredibly low, and is the only pvp skill that has in Actually, I am wynn EM 103 retri bloody +13 and it is not enough, marks if they do dmg in pve, but I have safiro lvl 3 but it is useless in pvp since markas damage by M.atac, so now you need Bssr (very expensive) and in pvp do not get anything because the wynn has little M.atac, but if you use armor light, if you use robe you do not support 1 hit, however you have more M.atac, and you lose P.atac that gives the light.
The death gate is almost a ridicules only serves to get the target of the mob but does not make sense. Unlike the other classes the wynn does not have any skill that attenuates critical damage, so othels and yull, and now the new feoh OP is a HIT and ground.
It is no longer a very good PVE class, and it was never a pvp class but it is worse than ever.
The skill betrayer that made the summon of the opponent to attack, they removed, but left the skill ereser, In conclusion the wynn dark elf and arcana lord at least have have the dark crucifix ( skill have to much power like a feoh skill, and a big pvp debuff) and the floating stone (which prevents debuff and subtracts 15% critical damage). I think that next updating should put at least 2 extra markas to each wynn (different for class) and return the active cubic as it was before, different for each wynn, and update the share servitor to more% P.atac.Pdef, and Critical dmg. Actually not to transfer all the improvements to the summon, this in too much disadvantage, even the other classes can enchant their skill but the wynn can not now enchant their summon like before, and the servitor barrier, that gives celestial for 10 seconds is easily cancelable, not like the rest of the UD that it is impossible to cancel them. Or back to old system 4 summons.
In favor of the Wynn Elemental Mast. Freezen invoking is the best debuff they have given, because it adds to the other and in partys with good damage it makes too much difference, 2 feoh and 1 wynn EM is really good at farm aoe.
(google ztraslate) ask if they do not understand something (:))
Thx for the reply
question forSpectral Masters
all ok with servitor skill? and vital spot attack?
read again what I wrote. good for beginners, but scales horribly with gear on 100+ onwards.
with +4 retri no SA 300 attri and +6 r95 light armour, sos box, iss box and heal box I did kama alone. dropped boxed sos when upgraded weapon. that sounds pretty alright for cheap and crap gears I had.
exile + marks didn't work pre and after ertheia update, I'm not sure exactly when they started working again, don't know where you are coming from, I've seen your nice red and blue gears, asking ridiculous questions on forums.
I'm not going to teach you how to play wynn here with out marks+exile combo, if you can't figure it out, go yul or othel.
WHAT THE F**K are you talking about?????
I AM KAMAEL WYNN SUMMONER, maybe the first wynn in all l2
I am Wynn Summoner since DAY ONE of GOD,
marks+exile ALWAYS worked this way. ALWAYS.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT. ONLY 1 RANDOM NEWBIE